| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/4/2006 3:55:40 PM | It is a very personal and serious decision to make. Along with my ex, we made this choice after our fifth child was born. We had agreed that if she had to have a c-section (she did with our first), she would also be steralised at the same time, but if she had a normal delivery (which was the case) i would go instead.
OK, there was a little pain involved for about a week after the op, but compared to what she had been through during five pregnancies and deliveries (especially the last of 19 hours labour) it hardly compares really. | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/4/2006 4:51:52 PM |
Hey I had one. No regrets and it was NO BIG DEAL! In and out in a few hours, minimal pain, a vew days with ice on my groin. No biggie. Well worth the time, money. and decision to have done!
Let's hear it for the brave man in uniform! Woo Hoo!!! :-) | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/4/2006 4:55:02 PM | OP, I hate to rain on your parade, but um, you do know a vasectomy will not prevent STD's right? So knowing that, what difference would a vasectomy make if you are still using a condom anyways?
I would have to be an imbecile for that statement to rain on my parade.
Obviously a vasectomy doesn't protect you against STDs. The condom is the only thing that is going to assist both men and women in that regard. Pregnancy however, always seems to be the responsibility of the woman. I'm just suggesting that men give it some thought.
freaky feeling but, MUCH less painful than paying for a kid for 18 years
That pretty much says it all, doesn't it?
| |
|
| |
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/4/2006 5:01:17 PM |
Holy shit Tiger, if any of us are still here in 3 years you have my permission to shoot us. DAMN...I second that completekaos!
Dear God, Please help me find someone soon.  | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/4/2006 5:02:32 PM |
Yep, had one here too.
Less complications than all the screwy birth control methods we expect women to take care of.
Nice, simple, effective, and after your partner is a known quantity, not using a condom is worth every snip.
FABULOUS COMMENTARY!!!!! Thank you for renewing my faith in good judgement and common sense. | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/4/2006 5:11:37 PM | I have already determined the age at which I will get one, so in that regard, I agree.
But frankly, telling me, "Hey! It's no big deal! You're out the whole time, and you don't feel it!" isn't extremely reassuring.
It's still a knife messing around in my bits. If the thought of a hysterectomy makes you double over at the thought, then you understand where I'm coming from. | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/4/2006 5:24:30 PM | I am hornier now with my vasectomy. No seeds...all juice! The only thing I worry about is critters from the lady. Hopefully, She is not the village bicycle. I am actually more relaxed knowing if I have sex with a woman, she is more relaxed (and we have lots of fun) because I am not making any deposits inside of her. My rod and my shaft, may they comfort thee. I still cum big time, and actually more sensitive down there. So let the games begin.  | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/4/2006 5:50:10 PM | The "non-surgical vasectomy" is a misnomer. It is surgery and an incision(sp? ... god everything "looks" wrong in this font so i gave up re-correcting lol) IS made. The difference is a scalpel is not used, you get stabbed in the scrotum with surgical scissors making a small openning. Google "gentle vasectomy clinic" or "scalpel free vasectomy" instead. The infection rates and healing time for this are lower than the standard procedure.
This p*ssy is booking his soon, and its not the vasectomy, it's worrying that I'll hit the doc when I get the needle, pmsl ....... maybe I should get the freezing patch first.  | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/4/2006 6:03:43 PM | It's no big deal. It IS a guy thing though. Just the thought of anyone fooling around with the equipment. It is alot easier for a guy than a gal too. Male ego dictates a knee jerk reaction to the thought of the procedure.
Just my 1.5 cents American thought on this topic. | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/4/2006 10:30:13 PM |
***Excuse me? I got 'fixed' after my second child and they had to make an incision (cut) into my abdomen and burn my fallopian tubes. Then they had to stitch me back up. Recovery from the anesthetic took 24 hours. It was well worth it, though.
How long ago did have this done? Just because when you got it done they did the old "slice and burn" method doesn't mean there aren't better options available to women now. I've made several posts in this thread where I mentioned a newer, safer alternative to traditional tubal ligation. Feel free to go back and read what I said on the subject since you must have missed it. | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/4/2006 10:35:59 PM | This procedure is alot newer then procedures involving women. Here are some side effects known.
Bleeding into the skin during the procedure may cause bruises that will clear up by themselves.
Swellings containing blood — hematomas — occur in fewer than two out of 100 cases. They usually clear up by themselves, or with bed rest or ice packs. Surgical drainage is rarely needed.
Swellings containing fluid — hydrocels — and tenderness near the testicles occur in less than one out of 100 cases. This usually clears up in about a week. Applying heat and wearing an athletic supporter helps. Surgical drainage is rarely needed.
Sperm leak from the tubes and cause a small lump — granuloma — under the skin near the site of the operation in about 18 out of 100 cases. Sperm granuloma usually clear up by themselves. Surgical treatment is sometimes required.
Mild infections occur in up to seven out of 100 cases. Rarely, an abscess may develop. Treatment with antibiotics is successful.
There may be some temporary discomfort or pain in the testicles. In about two out of 100 cases, the pain may be chronic and severe. Most of the time, pain is relieved by taking anti-inflammatory drugs or other medications. Very rarely, an injection called a spermatic cord block can be used to deaden the pain temporarily. Vasectomy reversal is very rarely needed to relieve pain permanently.
Very rarely, the cut ends of a vas deferens grow back together — recanalization. This most often happens within four months of the operation and may allow pregnancy to happen.
Decreased sexual desire or inability to become erect occur in four out of 1,000 cases. The most likely cause is emotional — there is no physical cause for sexual dysfunction associated with vasectomy. | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/4/2006 10:41:40 PM | Well to the men that think its such a bad Idea think again. I had it done and was in and out of the doctors office in less then an hour. There was some swelling for a day not a couple of days. LOL. You have to go back a few times to make sure it worked but far easier then for a woman. Give your heads a shake. All the plumbing is there if I decided to have more kids. Ill tell you something Its even that much better. And if you think it takes away from your sex drive "WRONG"! If anything it increased mine. Im freaking insatiable with the right woman. I think they got it backwards with this men being in their prime earlier on.Ok I need a cold shower now lmfao!!!!!!!  | |
|
Sh0t
| Joined: 9/27/2006 Msg: 39 | |
| |
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/4/2006 11:42:36 PM | DO YOUR HOMEWORK FOLKS...
There are options for men and women...
Vasectomies ARE invasive, although they are working on Noninvasive vasectomy involving focused ultrasound.
Essure is the new non invasive technique that takes about 35 minutes, does not require general anesthesia, and provides birth control without hormones.
So both have options these days | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/5/2006 3:26:21 AM | yeah well the thought of a blade in someone else hands getting that close to my jewels well that's enough to freak this fellow out  | |
|
| |
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/5/2006 8:19:46 AM | I had mine done a few months after my son was born. It just seemed like the easier thing to do than having the now ex have hers done. Overall its an easy procedure other than the stress of having someone cut such a sensitive area open.
Word of warning though!!!! When I had mine done, the doc didn't use enough freezing and I felt the first cut and it seared!!!!! I hollered and he kinda smiled and said, "Guess we need more freezing." Glad he found it so amusing. | |
|
| |
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/5/2006 9:12:19 AM | | I think it comes down to personal choice and why should someone be forced to have something done to their body if they don't want it. If you're done having children then you should have the procedure done. I've know men that were forced into having it done only to have the woman leave and continue having children with someone else. Is that fair, I think not. | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/5/2006 9:24:03 AM | Just try to get past my 44 Magnum with that scalpel. Cold day in Hell I let anyone stick a needle in my "T-bag" for starters and then let them slice it open. With my luck, the doctor doing the procedure either got shit-faced or smoked some fine Gangi the night before then procedes to slice'n dice the wrong parts.
Laugh if you want. I got a "C" note that says that has happened wayyyyyyyyy tooooooo many times in real life!!!
If God wanted us fellas to get fixed. We would have been born with a zipper on our "T-bag" and a off and on switch inside.
L. | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/5/2006 9:27:21 AM | Probably because men are desighned to have children untill the day we die where as women eventually go into menopause
I myself would rather just use other methods | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/5/2006 9:50:39 AM | | Vasectomy.....worth every penny and I would do it again if I had to. 300 dollars cash and about a 20 minute procedure. When The doc did mine he gave a local down there so there was hardly any discomfort at all. He did the sissor thing and just poked a small hole...definetly NO scalpel and no scar. I can't even tell where it was at. a few years before I had mine done, a friend of mine done it, and back then they did make a small cut where it took like two small stiches but not nowadays. It was just a little sore for a day or so but nothing that I would call painful and was right back to work as normal on monday since I had mine done on a friday so I would not have to miss work. The doc even asked my wife at the time if she wanted to watch, she said yes, so she sat right there next to the doc and watched the whole thing. After he made the little hole he just reached in there with a little hook thing and pulled the tube out which looks like a piece of spagetti, then he just cut and lasered the ends and put it back. It really is no big deal and like I said, I would do it again if I had too. It was alot easier for me than my wife to get fixed. Two of my best friends also had it done and they, like me said it was one of the best things they ever did, my advice is just go talk to a doctor about it and see for yourself how simple it is................... | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/5/2006 10:05:04 AM | I am certified to Counsel in Human Sexuality and have researched the side effects of vasectomies as well as personally experienced them.
a) sperm and ovum are treated by the body as foreign substances and the body produces a substance that stops it from destroying these.
At some point the sperm and ovum leave the body ie: menstruation or ejaculation.
However, if the tubes are cut and tied or cauterized then the sperm and ovum cannot exit the human body.
The bodies immune system must continuously be on to kill these and then the body must break it down and remove it from the testies or ovary/ovaries. This means that for a female the process occurs 1 time per month but for a male which produces sperm constantly then his immune system must be attacking the sperm 7 days per week times 24 hours per day for the rest of their life.
When the person's body is attacked by disease agents ie: flu then their already over taxed immune system has a harder time to meet both demands and illnesses linger or the body deteriorates or both occur.
B) The testies are like a gas tank. There is a fuel monitoring device that tells you what level the gas is in the tank. The same with the testies except it's hard wired to the brain. It is a biofeedback system. However, when you block the tube the sperm exits from then the sperm can build up to great pressure and cause constant low level pain. The biofeedback system will inform the brain to get the male to ejaculate so that the sperm is ejected either via masturbation or a wet dream. The male will do what the brain instructs and masturbate and he will ejaculate a fluid that does not contain sperm. Everytime he masturbates the hardwire programming will instruct the testies to produce more sperm and the testies will become even more full of sperm increasing the pressure felt by the male in his testies and again the brain will tell him to masturbate....anyway this cycle will repeat itself and the more the sperm trapped in the testies then the more the immune system must work to eliminate it.
c) other detrimental effects I shall not describe but any one can do their own research.
Both sexual systems were designed by God. It has maintained the species. Man is interfering with a system that was not designed to be changed by man. Thus many person over the years will experience related health problems. The changes in their health will be mostly subtle where they may not experience the soreness in the testies or for long or their other related health problems become the focus of their attention because these produce more pain and the testies pain is the lesser pain therefore they will not realize that their overall health loss is due originally to the vasectomy.
I was the first person to bring these side effects to the world famous Dr. Masters of Masters and Johnson. I forced the intake person to do tests that I needed to prove the existence of the aforementioned. When Dr Master's seen the proof from his own tests, he said that he had never heard or seen this effect before. I told him, How could you when you and the medical experts refuse to accept the possibility that vasectomies produce health changes and then dont test for these changes?
He agreed.
All vasectomies and tubal ligations are paid for by the Federal gov't of Canada. It is a population control program that has resulted in Canadian birthrates being less than Canadian death rates such that Canada was purposely depopulated of it's natural born inhabitants and these were replaced by foreigners so that the Canadian culture was desimated. This is because Canada and the US and Mexico will be amalgamated from a gov't point of view and with a Canadian culture then there will be little resistance to the amalgamation. I have told Joe Clark, Jack Layton, Joe Volpe and other political leaders this and one month ago it went unannounced that Stephen Harper, Bush Jr and Mexicos President Fox signed such an agreement. It is now fact under a one continental NAFTA gov't. They called it freedom to control reproduction but it was really set up so that natural born multi-generational Canadian's give up their children's country. The country is now an extension of American foreign policy whether you elect Harper again or Ignatieff who pushed for Canada to be in Iraq. These are Americans in Canadian sheeps clothing....watch and see if I am correct.
I hope Quebec's Dion gets elected with Gerrard Kennedy as his running mate as they both will not get us into US created wars such as Iraq.
YOu are typical of most women. YOu take your experience with your own sexual system responses and this becomes your concept of what a male should or should not do and what their sexual system and it's responses should be.
Males do the same regarding female sexuality but the detrimental consequence to a male's health is far greater than on a female from blocking the daily outward flow of sperm as compared to blocking a once a month ovum outward flow.
Both systems have very different functions and responses to interferences of their natural functioning.
There is significantly more to tell you and the public but i have to earn a living and time is not available to go on with this.
You are standing with your dog. If you had it fixed then do not compare it with a human male.
Human males do not **** only when a female's "estrus" /ovum flow is occuring. Human males will do it even when the female is on her period and no reproduction can occur but a animal only has intercourse when the female is in estrus.
Healthy human males sex drive is on all the time until ejaculation occurs then a passive recharge state occurs. But within an hour most younger males are ready to repeat intercourse. AdvisorX  | |
|
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal? Posted: 10/5/2006 10:09:32 AM | I had it done. No problem. But here is another scenerio. I date a younger woman. All goes great. She wants kids...then??? | |
|