| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 10:13:52 AM | ^^Being that you have had a vasectomy, you've already come to the decision you don't want any/any more kids, so any new woman you meet would obviously be told that; that way there's no misunderstanding before you get involved.
If you met a younger woman who wanted kids I would imagine you'd avoid that situation anyway since you want different things...why else would you have gotten a vasectomy? | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 10:27:48 AM | msg 1
I agree... a man can
be fixed so much easier than a woman.......
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he would be doing himself a favor to prevent
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 10:43:41 AM | Someone cutting on or near your privates in scary for anyone!
If I were a guy, I would not want to go under the knife , either. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 12:18:17 PM | | I think whoever it is that really doesn't want kids should have the procedure to get themselves 'fixed'. Just as a vasectomy can go wrong, so can a tubal ligation. Or however it's correctly spelled. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 12:30:18 PM | Cause all men have feathers instead of hair. Vasectomy?? Let em give birth!!! Pop something the size of a watermelon, out of somewhere the size of plum. Now that would really freak them out. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 12:35:59 PM | I had it done at 27 and never looked back.
As far as "go wrong", what exactly do you think can "go wrong"?
The only thing that can be botched is if they don't tie the ends of the tubes down they may grow back together. If you are prone to infection, it isn't having the vas cut that will get you. ANY procedure will.
And it is done with a shot into each testicle, so you feel one poke each side and nothing more. I talked to the doctor the whole time about how bad the baseball team in Cleveland was then. (And is again....)
So what exactly is it that you fear will "go wrong"? | |
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Ninki
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 1:12:42 PM | justaman72, I had my procedure done in 1991. I doubt they can do tubal ligations without having to go through a woman's abdomen with a sharp instrument now. It's definitely more invasive than a vasectomy would be.
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 2:14:16 PM |
justaman72, I had my procedure done in 1991. I doubt they can do tubal ligations without having to go through a woman's abdomen with a sharp instrument now.
You are wrong. You obviously have internet access so if you don't believe me then go to essure.com and read about the procedure yourself.
It's definitely more invasive than a vasectomy would be.
Again, you are wrong. About a half a dozen people on this thread have said the same thing and every single one is wrong. It certainly was that way a few years ago but this is not true anymore.
There are valid reasons for men getting vasectomies instead of their partners getting tubal ligations but vasectomies being "easier" or "less invasive" is not true anymore. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 2:48:00 PM | But it's always easier when it is someone else isn't it? If my gf got it then it is "easier" on me or the other way around.
And a friend of mine had a vasectomy, and for 2.5 years after he experienced acute pain uppon orgasm, I don't care if the risk of this is "only" 3 in 1000, it happened to someone I know and could happen to me. So forgive the guys that are nervous, considerring the number of times the procedure is performed in a year there are alot of people out there with issues with the after effects, granted they are fewer than those with no problems or only minor ones. (only 1 in 6 dies playing russian roulette just once  )
In my case the risk (however small, it will cross my mind) is worth the benefits, and is something I willingly do for myself and my gf. But I won't be telling everyone "it is the only way to go" ....... I might brag a wee bit about the jump in my sex life with one more concern out of the way.
And AdvisorX : you are imminently unqualified to advise another on any form of birth-control so long as you subscribe to a faith which preaches that birth-control, yet OWNS several prophlactic factories and reaps the profit from them to further their own wealth and influence at the expense of the suffering of children born into areas of the world with little hope, cheap life and a constant cloud of war and famine hanging over their innocent heads, while that same church hordes wealth and works of art instead of doing one single constructive thing about it. This is not as you might thing an attack on catholocism, for some it will help the cope with difficult times, faith is a very personal thing, as such keep your faith to yourself and any that ASK about it. Because unless your version comes straight from god's lips to your ears you are the same as the rest of the faithful and only trying to interprete and make that interpretation mesh with your own beliefs and prejudices. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 3:15:06 PM | OH BOY, this feels messy! I notice a lot of "Try giving birth" "I had Kidney Stones" Who hurts more. Wah wah wah, pain is a transitory SENSATION, ie something not real except as a perception and then a memory. It sucks, but what must be endured can be endured. I'm not going to waste time arguing about religion, I assume anybody commenting on this is already okay with the thought of contraceptives and is just debating the validy of a vasectomy versus other alternatives.
I don't really feel like doing a bunch of frigging research into it, so I'm just going to spout opinions.
First of all, it's surgery. Regardless of the pain, or the duration, it's still sharp objects in your body. Blood vessels and nerves can get cut, accidents do happen. Yeah, you'll make a mint of the settlement but there is a huge world of difference between sterility and Impotence. If your little man can't even stand much less shoot bullets, you might consider putting a bullet in your bigger head. Money can't buy an orgasm (well, not at that point.)
However, it is effective and you don't have to worry about forgetting to take it (oooh, forgot to snip the tubes today honey, just let me run to the kitchen and grab the scissors). It wont break on you suddenly or slip out. Best of all, if the **** gets pregnant you don't have to waste time with paternity tests and whatnot. If she say's it's yours, she's either lying or the next virgin mary.
Arguing the relevancy of this versus female tubal ligation or the painless essure procedure seems fairly pointless to me. What if the girl leaves? Are you just going to make all your significant others get this done, ya selfish **stard? wtf . . . . . .
So it's a bit of a trade it seems to me, short term risk for long-term security. Personally, I'm probably going to go for the procedure as a twenty-fifth birthday to myself, mostly because I don't want to breed something. I eat babies (well, no, but I'd try it if it was already cooked and served up to me without my previous knowledge. No thank you bite, at least)
AdvisorX, I'd like to know where I can verify your findings, You talk a pretty good game but without validation your "facts" could be made up or translated to you by a talking lizard or whatever. If there's merit in your findings, however, It would definately be something to think about before getting the procedure done myself.
I'd also like to know if I could get a description of how the data was collected, as statistics and findings can be skewed in order to get the desired results in any statistical survey. I am sumpremely unninterested in debating the morality of vasectomies, aas I already support birth control. Physical implications and reprecussions only, thank you! | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 3:28:07 PM | pmsl hobbes good point and where is calvin?
Tubal ligation takes six weeks to heal? my ex was fully recovered from child birth in 4 weeks wtf kind of butchers are performing this procedure, and 3 days for vasectomy? This is why they informed me i must change my job for atleast 2 weeks as the physical stress is too much so soon? Being ambulatory does not constitute recovery. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 3:28:57 PM |
AdvisorX, I'd like to know where I can verify your findings, You talk a pretty good game but without validation your "facts" could be made up or translated to you by a talking lizard or whatever.
I would like some background as well AdvisorX. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 6:55:55 PM | you can reverse it but it cost like 6 thou...........so besides the stress of trying to find a good woman, and the waiting on getting pregnant, then the actual cost of the child........
have to balance it........i think its worth every penny and then some...... | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 6:57:44 PM | I looked up the essure method or whatever. it's still invasive and not only do they have to go inside us, they have to implant us with things that may or may not take and while they're in there they may discover that for whatever reason they can't put it in. And then they could fall out cause our body rejects them, or the doctor may not have put them in the right way and they're crooked, then we still have the fact that we're under a sedative.
There have only been 600 women worldwide that have tried this method, it's extremely new and they don't know what the longterm effects are. MOST women won't want something implanted in them.
If a man has a vasectomy and for whatever reason the women gets pregnant, it's a normal pregnancy.
If a woman has a tubal and for whatever reason gets pregnant, it's an ectopic pregnancy and can be fatal.
The woman next door to me had a tubal after her second child. She had a feeling one day that she was pregnant, she went to her doctor and he scheduled an ultrasound two weeks away. Well, the next day she called her husband at work cause she wasn't feeling well and by the time he got there she was passed out on the floor with her 6 month old and 3 year old screaming at the top of their lungs laying on the floor next to her. The doctor in the ER said another 5 minutes and she would have died.
And this isn't an isolated case, it happens a lot. If her husband (who was a complete fat ***hole by the way) would have had the vasectomy this wouldn't have happened. Sure, she could have maybe got pregnant but at least she wouldn't have almost died. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 7:09:02 PM | SOME men are just sissy cry-babies.
About the pin near the eye..big deal. I had Lasix eye surgery. Awake and got to WATCH the doctor as he sliced through my cornea and peeled it back and poked around in there.
So what's a little snip snip compared to the possible alternative..waaa waaaaa waaaaaaa waa waaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa for about 18 years. kinda logical choice if you ask me.
oh and Tiger DO NOT shoot me when you come back to post in 3 years....i'll probably still be here. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 7:23:14 PM | I did look up the Essure Procedure. It's a fairly new thing so I doubt many have heard of it yet. Many women are still going under the knife. I'm always a little leary of brand new medical procedures. Remember the issues with breast implants when they first came out?
The impression I got at the start of this thread was that some men don't want kids, and if that's the case, why don't they just do something about it. I have a number of male friends who weren't very happy when who they were with turned up pregnant. Yes, it would be nice if it was a perfect world and a bad apple didn't lie to you, but people have to learn to protect themselves instead of just whining. If a woman doesn't want to get pregnant, then I agree she is to do something about it too. So, my point here is that whichever side is doing the whining about it, should just take care of it.
There are some doctors who will refuse to "fix" a woman until she has either had kids or over 40. I believe Planned Parenthood will do the procedure at any age, but you have a ton of paperwork to fill out so they don't get sued. I would definitely check out the Essure Procedure once I'm over 40 to see how the results were for other women.
I was disturbed to see some automatically assuming that anyone who gets "fixed" is having unprotected sex. There's plenty of people who are married or in long-term relationships on POF who feel they are in a stable situation, and are just on for the forums. There's also the worry of condoms breaking or something going wrong, so what's wrong with being fixed and wearing condoms? Errmmmm, pass me five full-body condoms please and a 10 foot pole, then I might be ready. :-p | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 7:33:48 PM | | Excuse me?? You dont have enough do deal with? Women are the ones going through 9 months of morning sickness, ever expanding bellys, backaches,plus all the other wonderful problems that go along with pregnancy! Then we go through the labor and childbirth. I would love to see you have a baby pushed from your body! Then we go through weeks of recovery. So, you think we should have to be the one to take care of it?? Do you realize that for a woman to have her tubes tied..the recovery time is approx 6 weeks?? Think about that..and see who you think should have the procedure done! | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/5/2006 7:57:51 PM | Despite the fact that for most men, having someone even breathing funny near the little guy can be traumatic, I personally can't wait until I'm with someone and can have that done.
Condoms really are wonderful, don't get me wrong, but i would love to be in a relationship with someone, have the kids we plan on having, or not, store some swimmers and then really get down to enjoying our relationship.
Having a vasectomy has very few potential side effects..I believe the most serious one is a natural reversal.
Disrupting the normal cycle of the ovaries, be it through surgery, or birth control of all shapes and sizes, or just thinking real hard, can be devestating emotionally and physically and leads to many very serious possible complications.
I would never ask someone I cared about to mess with their bodies to simplify my pleasure.
Now that I think about it...I didn't read the first post...i hope my answer was on the level. | |
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