| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/23/2006 9:22:44 PM | | I had a no scalpal vasectomy. They freeze you with an air injection make a small cut with surgical scissors about an eighth of an inch, they then pull the tubes that carry the sperm out cut them and suture them. it was painless and over in 15 min. a little discomfort afterwards but nothing a real man cant handle. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/23/2006 9:44:53 PM | .
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You are under anesthesia (for a vasectomy). You don't feel it. That’s not exactly true! Depends on how close the nerves are -- sometimes they can be quite close and really, really do not like being aggravated. (Ouch!)
if a guy has had a vasectomy, does he let the women he's dating know? Same thing applies to a woman, one would guess. At what time would she tell the guy she had her tubes tied? Maybe not the first date, one would think. But eventually.
On the other hand, I really have no dog in this fight. First, I had a vasectomy decades ago. Second, I do not expect to be dating a woman able to become pregnant. So, this is usually a non-discussion for me. But, for those in their 30s, yeah, I can see where it could be of some interest.
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/28/2006 8:48:10 AM | Ok, but would your opinion change if no woman - EVER AGAIN- would have sex with you unless you'd had the procedure
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Stop jabbering mindlesssly about "maybes" and "hypotheticals" In reality street I've actually scored less, since my vasectomy , than before it.
And it it'snt the men who make a big deal about vasectomies. It the damn female drama queens. And they make a big deal about everything and nothing. | |
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chasey
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Joined: 8/24/2006
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 10/28/2006 9:00:46 AM | | because men are babies one, and some feel it will make them like less of a man somehow. My exboyfriend got one and he went through a little psyche thing for a brief time but then he was just fine. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 11/17/2006 6:35:16 PM | Prostate Cancer? I'm going to assert that you don't worry too much about that factor.
... some things on that purely from personal experience, I'm not a doc. I'm a prostate cancer survivor. The doc found it at my first check up for it , age 42. Now age 45. At the time, I was the second guy in south central Pa diagnosed that young. It was only stage one, no where near getting out of the gland and moving into my bones where it could kill me. I got the radioactive seed therapy ( brachiatherapy). I took a thursday off for the surgery and went back to work as a commercial electrician monday, walking slow and carefully,, but I was back. The volume of ejaculate may be less now but I'm still potent.
Odds are 1 in 6 of having prostate cancer. Next time you're in a crowd of men of all ages, ask around. They may be able to tell you that breast cancer was prevalent in the women in their family. That and prostate cancer in men in their family are big factors in getting prostate cancer. Prostate cancer is the SLowest growing cancer known. So check for it early, don't wait. Some men do have more aggressive cases, true. Most men who went to their grave died of something other than the prostate cancer that was also growing in them. Vasectomy or not, after age 40, a yearly exam for prostate cancer is worth the momentary discomfort. Heck after 45 or 50 it's smart to check for colon cancer too. I don't discount that vasectomy can contribute or cause PC, but that may not be the most likely cause. It very likely may run in your family. Seed therapy was begun 15 years ago and those guys are still kicking. Improvements in treatment continue every year. And just because your dad didn't get checked doesn't mean it hasn't been in the family for generations. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/25/2009 1:47:48 PM | Good one, Zeke.
I consider it a huge bonus if a guy's had a vasectomy - and have talked with several who do not want children but won't do it. They freely admit that the idea freaks them out and they are scared.
I do not date them because they are also the kind of people who won't go to the dentist and don't get stitches when they need them.
If a man just isn't ready to take that irrevocable step, that, I understand. I wish he would, but it does mean giving up the occasional daydream. I get that! I can wait and use birth control 'til he's ready. (I'm not a good candidate for tubal ligation, and, though that is somewhat less invasive than it used to be, a vasectomy remains a good deal less invasive still.)
But I have dated a couple of men who've had vasectomies, and it is wonderful. Total freedom, no worries. Perhaps because of that, it had a hugely positive effect on their attitudes toward sex, too. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/25/2009 2:04:59 PM | lets see... a man go in for the procedure. its like 30 mins total with only a few days "recovery" time. i honestly dont even think they cut you open...( plus they ask you to jack off like 6 times a day for a few days after)
a woman goes in to get her tubes tied and the procedure is acouple of hours and its up to weeks of recovery time.....
man up guys!!!!! (thoes who dont want kids) | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/25/2009 2:42:30 PM | I'm not against getting a vasectomy and I would get it done after I've "put my stake in the ground", got married, and had the number of children that I wanted. However, like any surgery, complications can arise, which would certainly be on my mind prior to the actual procedure. My uncle had a vasectomy done and he had serious complications. He had a really bad infection, which caused his "jewels" to swell beyond believe, and there was talk of them being removed! Can you imagine how a man would feel about that? Luckily, he pulled through and all is good now.
Ok, but would your opinion change if no woman - EVER AGAIN- would have sex with you unless you'd had the procedure?
This will never happen, so it's a non-sense question. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/25/2009 2:55:10 PM | ^^ Avoiding it because of your uncle's freak experience is akin to refusing stitches because you might get MRSA.
Actually the second is more likely.
It's more like refusing to fly because the plane might crash. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/25/2009 2:56:42 PM |
Avoiding it because of your uncle's freak experience is akin to refusing stitches because you might get MRSA.
Actually the second is more likely.
It's more like refusing to fly because the plane might crash.
I guess you missed this part...
I'm not against getting a vasectomy and I would get it done after I've "put my stake in the ground", got married, and had the number of children that I wanted. | |
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LBA26
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Joined: 9/2/2009
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/25/2009 4:12:20 PM | it's the difference between being a man and a eunic.... yet we don't get extra benefit in income like the good old days.... but instead a big fee.  | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/25/2009 4:40:55 PM | The big deal is that there was a study done that showed there was a SUBSTANTIAL increase in the percentages of ALL male cancers, penile, testicular, prostate cancers in men who HAD vasectomies versus the overall population.
That study was allegedly debunked by several other studies. However, ALL the debunking studies were funded by known militant feminist-leaning organizations whose propaganda was ALL about trying to put MORE responsibility for birth control onto men, and relieve women from it.
Now.. let's just be anecdotal for a minute.. Sharp cutting instrument up against my jewels.. with orders to NOT get an erection for HOW many days? AND I have to sit on an icepack for HOW LONG?
How do I stop those 14-times-a-minute sexual thoughts males supposedly have.
What about the A.M. Lumber? I wake UP in a lumber yard. I'm talking about HUGE SUPPORT BEAMS too. And you want to take a McCullough to it?
I think I'll keep dating the following categories of women..
"I had my tubes tied after my last kid"
"My husband divorced me when he discovered I was sterile from birth"
"I HAD to have a hysterectomy due to female issues"
"menopause came early - thank gawd"
"I'm a firm believer in a woman's RIGHT to an abortion, why I had 6"
Besides, in this economy you can get paid for making donations to sperm banks. I have a pedigree of good genetics and high IQ. Plus I've already produced two above-average looking and above average smart kids. Maybe I'll market myself to lesbian couples.. as long as the "wife" of the two is not too butch looking and wants insemmination the "natural" way.
Finally, it's also the reason that men wont contact women who put "Open/Undecided" under the category of wants kids. I crack up when I see women over 45 who say that.
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/26/2009 9:10:09 AM |
I guess you missed this part... I'm not against getting a vasectomy and I would get it done after I've "put my stake in the ground", got married, and had the number of children that I wanted.
I saw it. I was deliberately ignoring your dishonesty in your profile about this (it does not say "Yes" to "Do you want children?") as it is off-topic.
My remarks were addressed not to you specifically, but to those who might be scared off by such random and extraordinarily rare horror stories. I think it was irresponsible of you to post it. I don't talk to pregnant women about the possibility of death due to complications in childbirth.
... with orders to NOT get an erection for HOW many days? AND I have to sit on an icepack for HOW LONG?
Don't know where you got that idea. Not only is it not verboten, you'd need to, to provide samples to test for whether or not it worked completely. And you might need to ice a little for a couple of days, off and on, depending how you respond to the minor insult (yep, it's minor - I've had accidental cuts that were deeper, and still only required a few stitches; you probably have, too). Frozen peas are recommended for that...
Finally, it's also the reason that men wont contact women who put "Open/Undecided" under the category of wants kids. I crack up when I see women over 45 who say that.
They are probably considering the fact that some men in their age range may already have younger children, indicating that they are open to that.
The National Cancer Institute, which has no dog in this hunt, finds a link between vasectomy and any form of cancer, though not disprovable (very little is, after all), unlikely:
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/risk/vasectomy | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/26/2009 9:20:13 AM |
lets see... a man go in for the procedure. its like 30 mins total with only a few days "recovery" time. i honestly dont even think they cut you open...( plus they ask you to jack off like 6 times a day for a few days after)
Like all procedures... sometimes you have problems...
A guy who I used to work with, had one done....it was his idea... no biggie... he got it done, recovered... and for years afterward, he had an ache there... as far as I know, he's still got the pain... | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/26/2009 9:38:04 AM | Why the hell not??? If men were a little more responsible out here and got snipped, we would probably have fewer unplanned pregnancies. - with the guy running off like he normally does.
This way, if you have it done, you play all you want without the risk of that. - But it damn sure doesn't prevent STD's. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/26/2009 6:06:26 PM | | I've read where a man shoots 5% less fluid after he's been snipped. I can't afford to give up a drop. I wish I could shoot 500% more! I wouldn't do it- she'll have to get her tubes tied. I've had enough cutting down there. I wish I had never been circumsized- a part of me is gone that I can never get back. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/26/2009 6:15:48 PM | Yep men do freak out about it but then again men hate doctors and hate going to them. Why I have no idea. It's common knowledge that men can't handle being sick. My exes would freak out, whine, have to stay in bed. God forbid I was sick.
I mean we women have medically more to endure than men do, take gynecology visits for example, mammograms where they squeeze the living heck out of your boobs, just to name a few. And if a woman has a family member with breast cancer (my sister has it) then mammos are more often (once a year). Oh and vaginal ultrasounds, pregnancy too. Guys try having an iud inserted or removed. That in itself is hell on earth.
A vasectomy is not a big deal. It's a medical procedure and everyone should take their health and well being seriously. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/26/2009 6:16:09 PM | I saw it. I was deliberately ignoring your dishonesty in your profile about this (it does not say "Yes" to "Do you want children?") as it is off-topic.
What's dishonest about saying "Undecided/Open" to the "Do you want children?" question? I'm not going to get a vasectomy until I've had the number of children that I ultimately decide to have. At this point in my life, I'm not adamant about having kids, nor am I against it. Therefore, I'm undecided and open.
I think it was irresponsible of you to post it.
Yeah, we wouldn't want men to make informed decisions about possible complications. | |
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LBA26
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Joined: 9/2/2009
Msg: 171 | |
| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/26/2009 6:47:28 PM |
we women have medically more to endure than men do
women also are much more efficient biologically and are meant to live longer on average. that evens out and vasectomy is a optional superfluous operation that was invented recently in history. btw sex was special till the invention of the pill, you wonder how people ever dealt with it without all the bags of modern tricks. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/28/2009 7:56:05 AM | Yep men do freak out about it but then again men hate doctors and hate going to them.
That's a misandrist-media inspired stereotype that isn't accurate. I personally have no issue going to the doctor... neither do any of my male friends.
But I do know guys who are... such as my Ex-father-in-law. But then again, my Ex-mother-in-law is the same way too.
In my 1st hand observation, fear of going to the doctor is not gender specific. Same for going to the dentist.
I'd say it's more of a generational thing... specifically people who were before the baby boom generation seem more likely to shun going to the doctor from what I've observed.
I mean we women have medically more to endure than men do, take gynecology visits for example, mammograms where they squeeze the living heck out of your boobs, just to name a few. And if a woman has a family member with breast cancer (my sister has it) then mammos are more often (once a year). Oh and vaginal ultrasounds, pregnancy too.
That's partly due to the fact that for every dollar spent on men's health issues, TWO dollars is spent on women's health issues... at least in Canada and the US.
While women have breast cancer, men have prostate cancer... as one example.
And how many women have to worry about issues like testicular cancer or Erectile Dyfunction, eh?
And did you know that men get breast cancer too? It happens... just not as common.
Guys try having an iud inserted or removed. That in itself is hell on earth.
I've had the male equivalent of that... getting a tube put up my urinary tract to deal with a kidney stone...
A vasectomy is not a big deal. It's a medical procedure and everyone should take their health and well being seriously.
That right there is a contradiction. Part of the reason why some men don't want to get it is because they ARE taking their health and well being seriously.
Every medical procedure has some risk. My oldest brother had a vasectomy and I know he got an infection... and we're talking about the feeling of getting kicked in the nuts for one week straight and continuous ice packs.
As far as I know, things got back to normal once the infection cleared.
It definitely wasn't fun, easy or risk-free for him.
It seems a vasectomy is not a big deal... for women. After all, there's no risk to them.
For you to say that "it's not a big deal" only shows your ignorance regarding the complications that DO happen, the risks, as well as complete ignorance to the psychological aspect a guy has to go through in making a decision like that.
And guess what... there IS an emotional aspect no matter how much you or anyone else tries to minimize it. | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/28/2009 8:05:56 AM |
And guess what... there IS an emotional aspect no matter how much you or anyone else tries to minimize it.
Of course there is! That is natural. But medically speaking, for a little perspective - it is considerably lower-risk than rhinoplasty, breast implants, or liposuction.
I absolutely would have this done were I a man. A few days' pain, with a complications rate of about 2%? In exchange for pregnancy-worry-free sex for the rest of my life? No-brainer! | |
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| Vasectomy - what's the big deal?
Posted: 9/28/2009 8:35:55 AM | IMO, anytime one puts a knife to the family jewels, it’s a big deal. Hell, it makes MY eyes water to think about it.
Still, there are benefits…
Snip, snip, here
Snip, snip there
And a couple of tra la la’s
That’ll keep ya, Sport, from payin’ child support
In the merry old land of Ahhhs
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