| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/6/2006 6:40:55 AM | makingupaname- very ambiguous. as are many of these things.....i am a believer but only to a point. i hope that i have made that clear.........free will and all
just for the sake of fun i'm guessing libra | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/6/2006 8:27:29 AM | firstly i apologise this being in the 'mens' section lol i realised after but too late by then! now to address robinkynd, no, its not part of the effect the greater universe has its the effect that gravity from the moon has, simple. and if we didnt have the moon we wouldnt exist. we are not talking about the the universe as a whole but the people making money and people living their lives through the interpretation of the planets and how it affects us thats all. the star sign charts ive looked at and read only mention these and they are from 'world reknown' experts..so thats all im concentrating on. i know we know not even 1% about what really goes on we havent been here long enough, i mean i live in a small town 50 miles from london and it has a history not even 400 yrs ago of burning 'suspected' witches i mean these days its called mental health lol so god knows what we will know in a 1000 years. oh and i'm not blind, the universe is expanding but the sun and all our planets remain constant in terms or size and distance thats common knowledge so i cant see what relation that has to it
now there is absolutely nothing wrong in anyones beliefs ar anything like that free will to all and all that, we believe what we want to and that the problem i think with this just because we belive it to be true or real dosent mean it is unless you can see it touch taste it feel it as far as star sign charts go?? and anyway what of the millions of peole who dont read them, are they missing out on something in that respect? and i know all about stars too! i know what they are made of what happens as the light is released average life of stars what happens when a star dies (bill brysons book small history of nearly everything is the best book ive ever read lol) so i see no relation to star signs and stars themselves they are explained with science. if people believe in birthday signs and think a aries is a match with a taurus but not a libra then fine! but as you said we know next to nothing on the big scale so how can you believe this? | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/6/2006 8:53:05 AM | I'm sorry if folks don't agree..... but star signs are for real.
They have this whole sidewalk in Hollywood just COVERED in them & the are actually 'written in stone'!
Doesn't get much more real than that. 
Sorry....It's a Friday & we Aries tend to get a little goofy then.
Tomorrow I'm hoping to get a little Mickey, too. | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/6/2006 10:06:27 AM | When it comes to a Gemini trust me the sign is correct....when she says shes a typicall Gemini she means WATCH OUT!!! haha trust me i know im one of em.. Good girl with bad girl attitude we do have two personalitlies.. we are fun, witty, extremely OUT GOING and yes extemly FLIRTY... honestly Gemini's are the ones who will prove that the signs are right!!! hahahah your a scorpio i bet you have a bit of a temper and more laid back then other..and im not trying to be rude!!other than that its mostly due to the fact that horoscopes are silly and fun and sometimes they can be true!! Some people will just always believe in the star signs and to each there own desire...............
P.S GEMINIS RULE HAHAHAHAHAHA | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/6/2006 11:57:07 AM |  micheal45693 definitley try harder LMAO
to the op.....i'm sorry if i came across as condescending or anything. i didn't mean to imply that you had no understanding. what i was trying to say was that there are many patterns in our existence. so what's the problem with trying to make some sense out of it all? the effect of the moon is only the CLOSEST celestial body to affect us, but that doesn't make us any less a part of the whole picture.
i'm not saying i live my life, chapter and verse by this, but i do use some of it to cope with my daily life just as other people use a bible or the koran. just because i choose something different doesn't mean that it is less viable, or more viable, if you were.
interesting that you note the moon. in astrology, each planet, or stars distance from us has less effect, on your personality, the farther in distance it is from us on planet earth. thus the moon plays a more important role than say pluto (oops i should say "the non-planet" lol) i'm not saying it's wrong or right i'm just saying don't knock it till you try it. what i choose may not be what you choose but that doesn't make me any less rational or spiritual than anyone else. keep your sense of humor...... or date a statistician what can i say? 
had to edit this because it burns me up too when people proffess things that aren't true OP it ISN"T right for people to make money off of other people's vulnerability. but my mom has several phrases for things of that nature
don't believe everything you hear
take everything with a grain of salt
if every one else jumped off a bridge would you?
don't take everything at face value
sage advice that i'm sure we've ALL heard before....it goes for the media, astrology, science, history, the bible, the koran and on and on forever | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/6/2006 12:53:20 PM | Hmm. See, I'm a pisces, which is pretty much bang on to my personality. I've been out with women who are other signs, mainly Leo. My problem is this: Sometimes I think people use their sign as an excuse for their behaviour.
"I'm rude and obnoxious and ignorrant. Typical Aries...hahaha" That doesn't sit well with me. Typical Gemini "Watch out!!".....that's shite. Control and behave yourself.
"I murdered my husband. Hey, I'm a Capricorn." | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/6/2006 1:10:00 PM | | I do control and behave, but at least i lead a fun life!! but you cant tell people you dont know to control and behave if you dont even know what it is they do for fun.. I quad, fish, camp, ohh look at me im a rebel...i just find it ironic how signs really do fit some peoples personlaities... so far every person i have met who is extremely fun, and outgoing they always happen to be a gemini.. even look on the profiles on this site for example almost every picture that has a quad, truck, or sport on it or something humours there sign happens to be Gemini!! very ironic isnt it.....signs are something that some people just believe in and theres no changing that.. to some its quiet serious, to people like me i find em humurous but sometimes ironic.... | |
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Posted: 10/7/2006 4:35:06 AM | so, basically people hear are saying a star even though hundreds of millions of miles away still has an effect on my personality and geminis are the outdoor good time people? so surroundings and personal life experiences dosent shape a an individuals personality? my ex was a gemini and was just sooo boring! although the girl swam 25 miles a week (she was into competitions since a child) i to drive slow, the thought of camping would terrify her, getting out and about without her comforts was a no no not to mention the complete lack of imagination behind closed doors! she was definately a member of the 'no sex please, im british' brigade (and i put up with that for 4 years,what a twat)
i cant see it, im a scorpio ive travelled the world with the army, been in very messy situations, done sky diving, horse backed the rockies in canada for 2 weeks been to most european countries and every greek island, i cant see how a star or distant planet or big rock in space has had any bearing in that! and i have the mad crazy photos but wouldnt put them on here saying 'check me! im mad and crazzzzzzzzy! im a typical gemini!' lol to me, i see someone having fun but to a pychologist they would think you have a NEED to show people your having fun..
this is a good bit here a magazine that comes free with a daily newspaper and a guy called jonathon cainer having his little revelation: "apparently the latest heavenly body thats been found is called Eris (the rock bigger then the 'rock' formerly pluto) named after the goddess of discord (???) her arrival symbolises and end to a time of humans falling out with each other without understanding why and soon we as individuals will become aware of the reasons we clash and this may help reduce global conflict".. oh really.. a big rock in space is going to make that nutter in north korea say 'actually no we wont test fire those nukes lets put them away' how many times have these people said stuff like that and it dosent happen? this guy talks about legendary gods of ancient times. why would someone believe this? what people believed to be true thousands of years ago we laugh at today dont we? the earth was the center of the universe? sun revolved around the earth these guys said that we know its crap but still belive about the gods? maybe scorpios are ancient vulcans and only deal with logic and realism i don't know... | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/7/2006 5:39:53 AM | Think of it this way. The REAL influences are the bodies of energy closest to you - Sun & moon. The position of the stars was just the easiest way for early societies to tell EXACTLY where the sun & moon were in relation to each other & the earth on any given day. I'm sure you won't dispute that the two major bodies effect things like tides, crops, weather, cycles of the earth, seasons, etc. OF COURSE your surroundings, upbringing & experience have more to do w/ your adult personality & habits....but early development shapes the WAY in which we view the information we process to make these developments.
So astrology is really a way of roughly mapping the general environmental conditions surrounding the months leading up to your birth regarding these events. They affected Mom while gestating...& you as well. Being born @ the end of a long dark winter during which your mom was deprived of sunlight, green vegetables & various important vitamins/minerals (as was the norm a couple hundred years ago) could definately have an effect on blood/brain chemistry & development of the child. & hence there viewport upon the world later in life.
So it's not the stars themselves, but rather there ability to signify Solar/Lunar alignment & events.
Anything beyond this is reaching for the romance that humans have always related to things celestial.
But can you really blame somebody for wanting a little of that in their lives? | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/7/2006 9:29:14 AM | Astrology is irrational and irresponsable and has no real practicality whatsoever. any magazine that has a horrorscope section PUT IT DOWN! It's the sign of not such a good periodical. It amazes me how superstitious people still are. Though interesting of note is that statistically some signs are nicer then others (Gemini taking a strong lead, Pisces close to, if not in, last place) judging from relationship experience but to say all Pisces's are non-committal and apathetic would be utterly ludicrouse and to not e-mail someone for being one for fear of canned rudeness would be utterly irrational, likewise not all Geminis are nice (though I guessed a girl to be a Gemini correctly because of how nice she was! but this was more statistical guesswork then anything psychic) though many are still.
Once upon a time there was an age where people believed that God's ruled from Mount Olympus and beings from another dimention worked nature (fairies or elves in some cultures) to explain natural phenomina, with the inherit lack of science in those days gods, fairies, giants, and dragons were on peoples minds and thought they to be real, then science came along and explained away what once was attributed to fictional beings who never existed. Also of note is how out of scientific discovery could be romanticism attached to it. An ancient greek philosopher estimated the worlds equator to be 20,000 miles which in those days was an astonishing feat. And hypothesised that there was a land at the other end of the world and named this undiscovered land Atlantis, of course there was a land (nowadays called america) but they were in no way shape or form had flying machines or ultra-advanced even for today energy sources. That was romanticised myth attached to a scientific discovery.
Apply that same concept to astronomy, mathemeticians brilliantly tracked the movements of the stars and took down data, but someone took that science, put irrational mysticisms behind it, and butchered it into astrology. | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/7/2006 9:51:30 AM | Remember that myth about how the world was flat.
Oh and that one about the Sun revolving around the Earth.
And let's not forget how back in the day science was considered witchcraft but now...well now science IS a religion.
Good times.
Anyone that believes in a god should believe in Astrology. They really aren't that different.
Then again I'm just talking sh!t. | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/7/2006 1:05:41 PM | "women and their obsession with star signs!"
To: robinkynd
When you are talking about star signs do you mean like when Britney Spears had on a tee shirt that said "M.I.L.F. in training"?
If so then I believe. | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/7/2006 1:08:52 PM | none of my ex's were obsessed with it at all.. They probably wouldn't have dated me if they would've been because none of them were too compatible signs..
I'm Aries and I'm supposed to be most compatible with Leo and Saggitarius but have never even dated women of those signs.. | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/7/2006 2:45:08 PM | To OP funny that NOW you mention you're scorpio LMAO. i think what you're trying to say is that you shouldn't rely on outside ideas to show who you are. you should just BE how you are? correct me if i'm wrong here....
if you read what i had written in response you would see that i have mentioned several times free will, as well as many other factors that can make you who you are. the bottom line here is that you can't rule out any of the possibilities.....history has shown that if we do that then we are inevitably wrong......you are clearly stating that in your posts. and any fool knows it.
so i guess what i can say in truth to you is believe what you want, but don't rule out the possibilities and astrology is a possibility if not a perfect science
it's like saying because science fails sometimes we shouldn't believe in it. people believe what they want to believe take it or leave it.
and to micheal45693  Britney Spears? i'm not sure what kind of a sign that IS, but it's sure is a sign of something. lmao | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/7/2006 2:55:49 PM | I guess my first post on this topic was misunderstood, or I phrased it wrong.
I don't pay heed to the signs much, but the best sex I have had was with an Aquarian. We are a good match for passion and love making.
Other than that, I don't focus on signs. | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/7/2006 8:49:22 PM | i ask because i have noted DEFINATE personality strengths and weaknesses in signs. I am already prepared to field a persons personality.
eg.
cancers? worriers
sags? talk without thinking
Taurus? looking to make a quick buck
Gemini? crazy!
LOL
course yall got nothing on us scorps.......allthough i hear aries are pretty stiff competition in the bedroom | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/8/2006 12:33:20 AM | 'no sex please, im british' brigade
^^^^^hahahaha.....permission to use that in the future! 
I said previously that I was a typical pisces. I'm also pretty Leo.....and Gemini....and Taurus................
It's so vague. Anyone could be any sign. Means nothing. Through and through, it's an excuse.
Oh, by the way, Scotland beat France 1 - nil............
Bonnie Scotland!!!!!!!!!! | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/8/2006 1:24:30 AM | I like to read about it from time to time, but I sure as hell dont use it to learn about someone.
All I know is im a libra. Tell me what the signs say I'm like, and I will probably disagree. | |
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Posted: 10/9/2006 5:15:01 AM | to robinkynd: i actually said what star sign i am within the first three lines of when i started this thing at the very begginning lol have a look and check.. now i do know you mention free will but it seems as tho you use free will to fill up the gaps remaining when using these other factors and possibilties or 'outside ideas' outside indeed! the closest explaination ive read here so far is from nightwing66 and even he says there are fancy romantic associations with it, and as you would say, history has shown us that. some possibilties are fine and have a right to be there but these outside ideas clog up and are just mere add ons at best you cant compare science and romantic astrology together, science you can measure test adapt and change to get various results,we can retrace what we did and find the point at where and when we went wrong predictive star signs is just that predictive you cant trace it you can say what will happen and if it dosent what then? it happens every day and if it was true wouldnt it be the single most important revelation in history? its more the most part and im being generous, unproven and thats why i started this because thats all it is and ive seen, what some might say as evidence if you want but then for every one example theres twice as much proving otherwise.
ive also noted as i thought would happen from those who do believe in this no one has said about that big old rock Eris and what is said will happen now its been found about bringing humans together.. the years of belief in star sign predictions involved with pluto now only to not have any significance at all so what does that mean up untill this point its obviously been wrong?
the only thing we all can agree on is to believe what you want. and thats it. and thats fine. you talk to a devout christian and he wont have anything else, he knows the world was built in 6 days and one day of rest, say what you want, the big bang theroy that clumps of rock billions of years ago were pulled together and over stupid amounts of years these formed together and became the planets we now know, that masses of different gasses swirling around and around and then at one point a chemical reaction and a good old bang and a big bright flash and theres a new shiny star..and he will just smile at you and think bless his cotton socks he has no idea.. and and its the same with this astrology star sign stuff!
celibray failure permission granted mate any other gems i think of ill let you know! | |
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| women and their obsession with star signs!
Posted: 10/9/2006 1:45:48 PM | dave26- i guess missed that scorpio boat. shame on me! lol funny that you mention nightwing's post. his post reflected my feelings exactly. maybe in a more concise way. there are lots of unexpalinable things as well as lots of misinterpreted ideas.....both in science AND in romance! (don't i know it!) nothing is perfect. there are all kinds of gaps in reality as far as i'm concerned. how do you fill them?
i'll adress your question about Eris if you like. (and i'm not saying i believe any of this mind you) as you know, all of the mystics that be, or were, speak of the end days. all the naysayers and doom bearers. several different sources say that in our generation the world as we know it will change. the mayan calendar ends in 2012, edgar cayce predicted it, nostradamus, the bible blah blah blah. so just for the sake of argument maybe it's the "change" they have all been talking about for so long. i couldn't begin to say yea or nea on that.
"what some might say as evidence if you want but then for every one example theres twice as much proving otherwise."
i think that this ^^^^ is the understatement of the day
"the only thing we all can agree on is to believe what you want. and thats it. and thats fine. you talk to a devout christian and he wont have anything else, he knows the world was built in 6 days and one day of rest, say what you want, the big bang theroy that clumps of rock billions of years ago were pulled together and over stupid amounts of years these formed together and became the planets we now know, that masses of different gasses swirling around and around and then at one point a chemical reaction and a good old bang and a big bright flash and theres a new shiny star..and he will just smile at you and think bless his cotton socks he has no idea.. and and its the same with this astrology star sign stuff!"
and this is the point i have been trying to make all along! lol except that i would add science to this category, because we STILL do not know how everything works or changes or maneuvers or any other ambiguous verbs that you could insert here. THAT is why i compare science to romance, and truly believe that just because we don't understand doesn't mean we are not affected by it nor should we annul our rights to further understand, before deciding something is completely hooey!
the funny thing here is that we agree, but sit on different sides of the fence. i love to play the devil's advocate. you got me! 
truly a pleasure debating this with you  lol | |
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