Jacka
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Joined: 7/13/2006
Msg: 101 | |
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Posted: 10/13/2006 2:15:20 PM | ahahaha WOW is gay!
Play PS2 Battle Field: Modern Combat..
You'll never need a gf again, this game is
addicting, or you can play World Series Of Poker,
all online gaming, plus on WSOP you can talk
to chicks cause they actually play as well, so
it all works out ahahaha.
Cheers. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2006 2:30:29 PM | | Well, games can be addicting... but seriously, think about it. Who do you think will have a bigger impact on your life? Your girlfriend, or the people 3000 miles away, who's names and faces you may or may not know, that you play games with online? With that in mind, who is it more important to please? | |
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Posted: 10/13/2006 2:45:02 PM | The people 3000 miles away lol. Why? Because you'll never have to face them and it's easy as hell to click an ignore button beside their name, while in real life if you disappoint someone it's gonna be a awful feeling. While on a game you can reset it.
I play one online game and its called Guild Wars. I play probably two hours a day while my little cousin who's 14 will play all day if given the chance. I remember once during the summer he spent a whole week on the computer playing that game, no sleep. He ate and used the bathroom, showered quickly and was back on the computer...it was interesting to see him after he was done because he looked all zoned out lol.
I dont know though, I went through a phase when I lost my grandfather and Uncle, I played video games until my thumbs went numb and my eyes were bloodshot. It was my way of venting and getting them off my mind. If someone chooses a game over a person they cared or should care about probably has something mentally wrong with them...or once more has a body built like a god or goddess and can get some major loving by winking their eye and saying 'what color panties you wearing baby?". | |
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Posted: 10/13/2006 3:48:29 PM | I have still been trying to think of a way to snap two of my friends out of it...one is in the military, and does nothing but play WOW when he is not busy....came to visit and I was ready to go to the local clubs(even though clubbing isn't my thing) and he proceeded to hook his computer up, and get on that damn game.....has no interest in women any more it seems....kinda worried about him.
My other friend, is starting to get hooked. Still goes out, but not often. Each day his time with the game increases....
Me, I'm not really into the whole online rpg thing. I prefer console games to pc games...the only pc game I really play is Elder Scrolls 4, and its gotten boring. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2006 9:26:01 PM | Speaking as a former Warcraft guy, I'd throw this possibility out there:
A online game itself may be entertaining, but its the people/camraderie/social alignment that can get "addictive."
To start with the game can be fun, as you might be shooting people, doing the fantasy thing, whatever. Generally making things that would be impossible for you to do in real life comparatively easy and fun. So, you're already entertained. Now throw in this:
Think about your average job/life. Chances are nobody really relies on you. Your individual success or failure at your job may have some effect on the company, but it is unlikely to drastically affect your co-workers; co-workers who make up the majority of your social environment where skills and abilities mean much. There's no common bond of suffering and acheivement, or if there is, its relatively paltry. Your boss may Manage you, but it is unlikely he Leads you, or has Command of you. If you are a boss, it is unlikely that you are much more than an administrative layer designed to spread out assignments so that they'll be completed.
Enter online game. Boom, all of a sudden, in an entertaining environment, you're given a group of forty people whom actually rely on you. Literally, they will fail if you fail, succeed if you succeed, and by the way, you've already spent hours playing with these people, achieving mutual goals. Your leaders will lead by example and motivation, artificicial though it might be. If you are a leader, you have Command with all that entails. Basically all those good warrioresque social needs programmed into you to ensure survival of the species are being met. Obvisously its not real and doesn't effect anything out your little digital realm, but when was the last time you saw your TPS report change the real world?
So, when the question comes between upholding your dedication and commitment to thirty of forty people, while doing something you already like, and doing something else, which one gets picked? Quite frankly, if it was spur of the moment video game verus spur of the moment real world, for me real world would always win. There are those whose real world sucks so much that it does not. Now, if you already gave your word that you'd be in x spot at y time, and by the way your failure to make it there just screwed over 39 other people you work with, there'd better be a damn good reason to make you break that.
Admittedly, the whole being straddled in chair thing would probably be what I'd qualify as a damn good reason. The guy who picked a game in its entirety over a girlfriend also has some time management issues I woud say, easy enough just to say "look guys, I won't be doing anything between thursday and sunday" ...but I was never as far gone into the game as some people.
As a closing side note: to those saying "LOLz1!11 only pasty nerds without balls play warcraft" I would throw this out: the military has an unusually high number of WoW players (probably cause they're pre-dispositioend to all that camraderie and command stuff) and I have a hard time imagining calling people who kill or be killed for a living sackless psty nerds in general.
Final sidenote: to all those who | |
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Posted: 10/13/2006 9:47:45 PM | America's Army was a fascinating experience for me. I've played with real American soldiers online, and the team aspect of it was what drew me into it. Typically, I'd play as a fireteam member coupled with a sniper. My job would be to spot targets with my binoculars ( both for my sniper and the rest of the team, keep count of all kills ( meaning everyone knew how many were left to go), and to protect my sniper from anyone sneaking up on him. I also was a medic, and would tend to injured team members.
One actually has to take an online course to become a medic, and I learned some good first aid tips doing that that I can now apply to real life situations.
My "frag rate" wasn't high, and I never concentrated on the killing aspect. My focus was on completing the mission. Sometimes I'd be the only one left, and I'd run right past someone to complete the mission, instead of killing them. Othertimes I'd use smoke grenades, and create total confusion in the enemy ranks.
I also became quite well known in the German community playing that game. Since I knew some German, I became this weird online version of David Hasselhoff.  My screen ID named me as a Canadian, and yet I'd suddenly commo with some German phrases.
In the middle of a battle, I'd use the free channel ( all players dead and alive see it) and type "Frei lederhosen fur alles ! " The result was about a dozen Germans suddenly typing " ROFL !!!! " Ahhh....good times...
I've played with people from all over the world, made some great friends, and I would not have traded that for anything. To me , I see it very much like having a pick up game of softball, anytime you want to play.
That said, it has to be done in moderation - and real life has to always take priority. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2006 9:54:28 PM | | Newgate: those are some good points you make there. I'd say real life in the western world needs some changes. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 9:54:17 PM | | did anyone see the South Park World of Warcraft episode? | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 11:34:08 PM | | I believe that episode was already mentioned in this very topic. Twice. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 2:10:58 AM | | Honestly why are you making him decide about the game. Guys play games to get away from all the issues through the day that stresses him out. Now if you wanted to do some things and the game can be paused then thats diffrent. his fault | |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 9:25:05 PM | | hehe too lazy to look through 5 pages of posts. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 10:00:52 PM | 1. The game is turned on with just a few keystrokes.
2. You can "pause" a game.
3. You can adjust the "difficulty level" on a game.
And on the list goes ......
Simply put it comes down to priorities (both yours and his). I've run the spectrum dating from one woman that would get angry if I played a game for a half hour after work, to another that thought I was shutting down a game for her benefit and insisted I keep playing because she enjoys knowing I am doing someting I enjoy (too bad at the time I was getting hundry and thought we should go out for dinner) | |
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Posted: 10/18/2006 4:42:35 AM | I wouldn't understand that either.
But I can understand why would a guy choose his career over his girlfriend alot more.
I think he might need a girl who is into warcraft so he doesn't need to choose anymore, lol. Good luck with that, LOL | |
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Posted: 10/18/2006 5:47:42 AM | Why are video games such a damper to women?
Its a freaking pass time, a hobbie. Jesus effing christ, why would you try to make someone change in the first place? People don't change. Its the truth. IF the guy was addicted before you met him, guess what? HE'S GONNA BE ADDICTED AFTER YOU DUMP HIM...he's probably going to find another chick. Hopefully a gamer chick becuase if he keeps this up he's going to be single for the rest of his life.
Women do alot of things like this as well. Shopping anyone?
I don't think its fair to every guy here, that's a gamer, to be put in the spot. Its something to do. Personally I haven't touched a VG in months...I work to much, but when I do have time I'd like to finish what i started...i still don't know what happens at the end of Final Fantasy X......*important note* Don't say crap if you do know....its more than likely that I'l l be reading this thread....=/
Anywho, did you at least talk to the guy about it? And how much it bothered you? Or did you just basically give him the choice of you or the game? | |
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Posted: 10/18/2006 8:27:10 AM |
Its a freaking pass time, a hobbie.
There's a big difference between enjoying it as a hobbie, and being addicted to it.
Hopefully a gamer chick becuase if he keeps this up he's going to be single for the rest of his life.
Even a gamer chick will dump him when she realizes that the games are more important to him than she is.
I love games, and I can sit there playing for countless hours, with just the occaisional snack and bathroom break.
But I will never let games stop me from respecting the woman I love. I'm never going to put them first. That's simply stupid.
Women do alot of things like this as well. Shopping anyone?
I've dated quite a few shopaholics... and never once have I been outright ignored and disrespected just so they can go shopping.
If an anniversary comes up, they aren't going to spend it out at the mall. They spend it with me.
If I really want to spend time with them, they'll either invite me to go shopping with them, or most often put it off for another day. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2006 7:46:04 AM | I played WoW for a short while, but didn't get very far with it.
I typically played the games that most of my other online friends played. However I can never really get into games like WoW. I'm more partial to games like Phantasy Star Online. And believe me, I played me some PSO - about 4000 hours worth. The bulk of that was while I was still single. But when PSO Blue Burst came to the states last year I had a girlfriend. As a result, I wasn't as hardcore with it as before. She knew that whenever a game I wanted came out, she could expect to not hear from me for a couple of days, and she was cool with it. Fast forward to this year when Phantasy Star Universe came out in Japan in August, and I, like so many of my other friends, imported. I'd go for 4-5 days without talking to my (now former) sweetie, and she knew to expect that since I've been wanting said game since around the time we got together in 2004. We broke up a few weeks back due to other problems we were having in the relationship. | |
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Joined: 5/19/2006
Msg: 118 | |
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Posted: 11/6/2006 6:25:42 PM |
Did you not try putting on a wizards robe and hat ?
For all those who don't know what he was talking about....
http://bash.org/?104383 | |
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Posted: 11/6/2006 6:42:05 PM | 2. You can "pause" a game.
Not always.
WOW cannot be paused. The monsters will keep pounding on you if you just stand there, and the other players won't sit around waiting while you do whatever.
Ditto, not all PC/console games can be paused, either - especially RPGs. A lot of them only allow saving at specific points in the game, and you can't always just pop on over to one whenever you want. Leaving a game on "pause" indefinitely may also A) damage your TV and cause the game to crash or lock up. I found that out the hard way after pausing a few games for like an hour while taking a phone call.
I remember getting in a biiiig fight with my ex while I was playing Grandia II precisely for that reason... it took me like a half-hour of slogging my way through some stupid maze just to get to the final game boss, and then he kept kicking my ass... and each ass-kicking'd take like a half-hour try. She couldn't understand why I couldn't just put the game down and go out without losing like three hours' worth of effort because the last save point was *before* going into the maze.
Ah well.
Who do you think will have a bigger impact on your life? Your girlfriend, or the people 3000 miles away, who's names and faces you may or may not know, that you play games with online? With that in mind, who is it more important to please?
As silly as it sounds... if you piss off those people 3000 miles away you may as well quit the game entirely. At the upper levels of games like WOW, if you don't have a guild to back you up, you literally cannot participate in the content because it's geared toward large groups of people. If your guild disowns you, you have to find another - and hope that the few high-level guilds on the server don't keep tabs on one another and decide to blacklist you entirely. | |
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Posted: 11/7/2006 1:13:39 AM | Why haven't you started playing with him? I know of many couples that play WoW together. The thing is to moderate your time and stick to it cause once you are hooked its frighteningly hard to stop playing it. I was addicted to it and now play once a week to once every 2 weeks. But it will replace just about all your other socialk activities because of the incredible pull of this game. kind of like TV. You sit down and plan to watch 30 minutes of TV and 2 hours goes by =/
Internet gaming addiction is fast becoming THE biggest addiction in the entire world and its gonna get worse as the games get more powerful. People of all ages now play it. I played WoW with a guy and his Mom (his freakin MOM!) was playing with him on another computer and she was kicking a lot of ass in that game! She was like 62 years old and she plays. lol
But if you want to show him something that may stop him from playing show him this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPA-LjSIlsM&mode=related&search=
Leave it on his desktop and he may get the hint. It is a very very addictive game. Same as some guys are addicted to watching sports/playing golf/bingo (lol) etc etc. The problem with WoW is that is a never ending game. There is so much to do you can spend years doing stuff and not do it all.
One other aspect of this game completely overlooked is the incredible sense of community of players that you can talk to and belong with. Its just about the most socially-adept massively multiplayer online game on earth. I met so many cool people in this game and I have friends all over the world now. There is no price you can place on that.
I can't even begin to tell you how hard I have laughed along with my friends over vent. Sometimes we just get on and talk to each other and shoot the shit, WoW is more of an excuse to socialize. When you form a little team and know everyones personalities even if you havent met face to face it builds comraderie. And you actually have goals you can do together. Most often poking fun at one another or a few freinds come over and you sit around and everyone talks to each other. Its a damn fine way to pass the time. But for me it was totally the social aspect rather then the game itself. THAT is what made it addictive. Imagine being in a phone conversation with 20+ and how fun it can get.
But like all things - moderation is the key. | |
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Posted: 11/7/2006 1:44:24 AM |
"I put on my robe and wizard hat..."
ROFLMAO, I forgot how funny this was | |
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Posted: 11/7/2006 6:07:31 AM | You also have to understand how games can sometimes give you insight into other things. Flying a flight simulator allows one to understand aviation. You can pilot a WW1 era fighter, or almost any other plane you can imagine.
There are even entire communities that play Microsoft's Flight sims online, with real weather conditions loaded directly from the internet in real time, and with other players acting as air traffic controllers. That's almost the same as actually doing it. In a way, it's the same thing as modern pilots go through.
In some games, third party players can create problems, like engine failures. After playing in that world for a while, you do have a better , if virtual , understanding of what it must feel like to be a pilot - in a very limited way.
Just take a look at a game like Medal of Honour. If you've seen the start of Saving Private Ryan, you can actually "be in the movie" on one mission in MOH. You'll land at Normandy, after slowly coming in on a landing craft. People will die around you, bullets will fly past you ( and quite possibly into you) , and the noise and confusion of battle will (again, in a limited sense) become quite real to you.
After playing that mission, you'll never see that WW2 footage in quite the same way.
Just look at the possibilities offered in a new game like Spore. You start as a single cell, and evolve right through to being a creature that can travel through the universe. You will create your own path, by your decisions, every step of the way.
These types of games offer a wonderful way to experience things from the inside, and to see them in new ways.
At their worst however, they can be just as addicting as any drug can be. | |
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Posted: 11/7/2006 6:34:54 AM | If I were on the last level, in the middle of some huge battle, and im two seconds away from beating a game I have been working on for months, then my girlfriend comes and spreads her leggs in front of the screen with nothing on....
Im stoping my game, and fcuking my girlfriend...plain and simple...besides a game cant give me a hummmer! | |
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Posted: 11/7/2006 10:13:07 AM | Very true Tyler.
Always have to have priorities.
Of course, I remember my ex sometimes used to spread wide and tell me I could only have her if I can beat the boss. My reward as it was.
Very good inspiration for you to do your best at the game.  | |
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Posted: 11/7/2006 11:34:21 AM | My response to that? Phoenix Wright doesn't have bosses, nore can it be paused.
BlTCH. | |
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