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Posted: 10/14/2006 11:00:16 AM | I personally have to disagree
that the virtual gifts are useless.
I have seen they keep a FREE
access site still FREE and they also
brighten someone's day at NO cost
for the receiver.
I personally would NOT want someone
to send me flowers of any kind when I
am first introduced to them as I may not
find I do not feel a connection with them
later on and do not want to feel obligated
or pressured to start or continue contact
just because they gave me such.
I AGREE with the one that said he could see
many complaints on a thread of giving flowers
on here and then she/he does NOT respond even.
I feel this idea gets my
Even if I am in the minority of thinking this way
I am still standing by that it seems a wasted idea
in the long run.
Virtual gifts are ice breakers some times,
I have both gotten and given them in the past.
I feel they really brightened my day sometimes.
I also could just send a polite virtual thank you
greeting as a reply and leave it at that then.
Much easier than ignoring or feeling pushed
to start contact if one does not find interest to.
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| Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers.
Posted: 10/14/2006 11:07:41 AM | | It looks like these are real flowers and not the virtual ones some other sites do. If that's the case... How does the company know where to send them? Many people that know each other over the PC don't know each others addresses etc. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 11:07:52 AM | | I agree with loyallady. Virtual gifts are not useless or lame. I have a friend who sends me virtual bouquets, E-cards and others things that brighten my day. Doesn't cost anything, and they're a pleasure to receive. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 11:16:42 AM | Gibson--
Read Admin's OP.... | |
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| Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers.
Posted: 10/14/2006 11:37:06 AM | If this is a way to help keep this site free...why not there is nothing more romantic than a special surprise of flowers.
Instead of the virtual flowers why not just a rose icon...we love the icons.
But
Love real flowers more! | |
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| Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers.
Posted: 10/14/2006 11:40:09 AM | | I had email saying a user wants to send me flowers. I went to the link and put in my address and it said they don't deliver to my area which is very odd since I am in North Toronto & have received flowers before. The flower place isnt open on weekends to contact them. So I guess we will see what happens. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 1:35:47 PM | | nice picture of you | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 2:06:28 PM | | nice idea but i would not welcome flowers from someone who was not my type.... | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 2:13:46 PM | | hey huni if you were to send me flowers i would give you something wich would get ur blood rushing! | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 2:17:47 PM | I would like to respond to the admin's post below and then also thank the many women who spoke up in support of free-of-charge virtual flowers and free-of-charge virtual winks.
to the admin, first, thanks for your below reply....
JUST FOR YOU
Posted: 10/14/2006 10 :28 AM
Admin
Virtual gifts etc are pointless. Its a gimmick paid sites use to try and get people to pay so they can message someone. If I allowed that stuff a lot of women would get spammed with useless messages. It would probably outnumber real mail 2 to 1
Like many, many of the long time POF women and men have said on this thread and many other forums and other threads, virtual gifts are not pointless. I agree with you that many sites have used it as a gimmick, but POF could be one of the many sites that do not use it as a gimmick. As you well know many dating sites uses 'IM' messages and 'email within the dating site' as gimmicks as well (because you can only use those features usually if you pay a lot of money). However POF is now one of the many sites that do not use IM and emails as a gimmick so you could do the same with virtual flowers or at least virtual winks (but I think virtual flowers are better recived because you can choose from a variety of beautiful flower pictures and even initialize them sometimes so people print them out). I have to disagree with your second sentence completely though. Women would not get spammed if you allowed it. Do you know why?
Because if you allowed, the way in which you allowed it should be created as follows:
You could initially, automatically have it in off-mode to start off with (default settings) so that people who think it is gimmick (or who think they will get spammed) never, ever have to use it and never have to recieve virtual winks or virtual flowers unless they specifically know how to go through 'the hassle' to turn it on. And even after they turn it on, theycould place 'restrictions on who can send them virtual winks' much like the restrictions on mail in POF (which is a great feature by the way).
This is very much like the IM message service. I recommended a friend of mine to sign up for POF and she started getting so many IM messages from so many guys that it was like pop-up spam. But then I told her to simply turn off her IM feature and she no longer recieves IM messages
So as you can see, it would be very, very easy to apply this same exact feature to virtual winks and free virtual flowers.
Thanks for allowing this conversation to continue.
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classact504...
onyx blue, I think winks would be great. It would help the people who don't like it when their mail is not opened or replied to. At least if you get a wink back you know they are interested.
you're exactly right and I agree 110%.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. It means a lot coming from everyone, but especially the women because I think the admin is actually looking out for the women, but there is a way to create virtual winks or virtual flowers... while still looking out for women.
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loyallady...
I personally have to disagree
that the virtual gifts are useless.
I have seen they keep a FREE
access site still FREE and they also
brighten someone's day at NO cost
for the receiver.
I personally would NOT want someone
to send me flowers of any kind when I
am first introduced to them as I may not
find I do not feel a connection with them
later on and do not want to feel obligated
or pressured to start or continue contact
just because they gave me such.
I AGREE with the one that said he could see
many complaints on a thread of giving flowers
on here and then she/he does NOT respond even.
I feel this idea gets my [thumbs down icon].
Even if I am in the minority of thinking this way
I am still standing by that it seems a wasted idea
in the long run.
Virtual gifts are ice breakers some times,
I have both gotten and given them in the past.
I feel they really brightened my day sometimes.
I also could just send a polite virtual thank you
greeting as a reply and leave it at that then.
Much easier than ignoring or feeling pushed
to start contact if one does not find interest to.
Just my .02 worth on here.
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Thanks you for your thoughts. You are not at all in the minority. Not by a long shot. As a matter of fact, it just may be wonderful people like you who are able to speak your mind so well that helps the admin to create free virtual winks or virtual flowers. Thanks for your thoughts.
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Cheap Trick Fan...
I agree with loyallady. Virtual gifts are not useless or lame. I have a friend who sends me virtual bouquets, E-cards and others things that brighten my day. Doesn't cost anything, and they're a pleasure to receive.
Thanks for your words and thoughts. They're also a pleasure to send.
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Thanks for your thoughts everyone. Sorry to anyone who I did not comment directly to, regardless of your opinion either way. And again, thanks to the admin for such a wonderful site. We like this site which is why we're here we're just trying to make it better.
Love for all,
-onyx blue
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Posted: 10/14/2006 2:30:53 PM |   
THE FLOWERS ARE GREAT..I GUESS THEY HAVE SOME CACTUS ON THAT SHOP..I AM THINKING OF SENDING SOME TO MY EX-MOTHER IN LAW..PROBLEM IS I CAN'T FIND HER SCREEN NAME.....BUT SURE I KNOW HER ADRESS..(SMILING WICKEDLY)..... | |
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| Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers.
Posted: 10/14/2006 2:54:04 PM | | Obviously not everyone thinks this feature is a great idea......I do! I can see sending flowers after a really great first date, or to a friend who is not local to you...but is having a tough day, etc..... I think POF is unique in a lot of ways. I've used pay sites in the past and I don't ever recall this feature being available, although it's been a while since I've visited them. It's just like the testimonial feature...it's there and we can choose to use it or not. If I ever start to use this site for dating, lol....I can see myself using this feature. I actually like the fact that "winks" and such are not an option here, but thats JMO. Kudos, Admin! | |
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| Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers.
Posted: 10/14/2006 3:00:52 PM | | Great idea! At least its a nice reminder to the men who don't seem to get that sending flowers for no reason is a VERY nice gesture that us woman love. Just being honest since I love flowers, they can make anyone smile so much. It's the little things that matter the most. Just hope it doesn't start to look like a funeral parlor ....just kidding (meaning the one's that might get out of hand with it) | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 3:35:08 PM | | My god I just got sent a dozen pink long stem roses and I dont know who to thank., how do I do that ? BEAUTIFUL , JUST BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!! | |
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| Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers.
Posted: 10/14/2006 3:37:12 PM | | Angel923 how can you not know who to thank. You had to see who was sending them to you when you were asked for your address? | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 3:44:10 PM | I think it is a nice feature. Whether it will be used and how much only time will tell.
I'm glad this site does NOT have winks and virtual flowers, it's what I like about it. Dealing with other sites most people send those stupid things then become phantoms. It's just one more thing to regulate and it's not needed.
Comparing virtual to real flowers is apples and oranges because the sentiment behind real flowers comes across as much more sincere to many. It's also a feature I can see being used by those who live some distance from each other who have connected here.
Since it is a two way street, the women can also send flowers and other items.
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Posted: 10/14/2006 4:00:12 PM |
You had to see who was sending them to you when you were asked for your address?
no you don't see who is sending them...it just says "a user". So I would presume there is a card with the flowers which will say who it is. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 4:12:17 PM | thanks for your input...
Since it is a two way street, the women can also send flowers and other items.
Wrong, it is not a two-way street. Currently women are able to send virtual winks, but guys do not have this service on POF. That is the epitome of a one-way street.
[Note: I heard that women can send virtual winks from someone posting in the testimonials section, but this may be incorrect. Still I think men and women should be given the ability....as long as people must manually turn-on the feature so that no one is bothered by receiving virtual winks or virtual flowers. That way, anyone who says virtual flowers or virtual winks is a bad idea... can simply never, ever receive them.
Comparing virtual to real flowers is apples and oranges because the sentiment behind real flowers comes across as much more sincere to many.
Many women have told me that the sentiment behind real flowers comes across as much more "look at my money" and women on this thread have expressed strong sentiments which differ from yours, but maybe that is different for you and a few, EmeraldJag. I know many women who would prefer that I send a hand written card on parchment paper using A Calligraphy pen...or maybe even using virtual flowers with that typing instead (on some virtual flowers you can upload a scanned picture of such a thing).
Indeed, I agree with you, that it is apples and oranges..but I feel that is because there will always be those who prefer to have a rotten, worm infested apple if it comes from a rich man's pocket... rather than having a fresh, hand picked organic orange that comes from a poor man's pocket. There will always be those who get into the dating scene to dig into the heart and kindness of a person, and there will always be those who dig only for gold.
I'm just hoping that POF can create an option so that everyone, even those without the minimum $30.00 flowers feature, can send free-of-charge virtual flowers.. or even winks.
And if they create it so that everyone must turn-it on in order to begin receiving them, why would it bother you or anyone else who doesn't want to receive them ? It shouldn't.
Thanks to the admin for creating this thread,
Love for all,
-onyx blue
p.s.
There will always be those who live and breathe the sentiments behind the Beatles song
"Money Can't Buy me Love" and there will always be those who only like the song for the background melody, not the words. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 4:27:15 PM | | Hey, and what about the pof users from scotland? Don't we get the flower options? That's just racism | |
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