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Posted: 10/14/2006 4:56:55 PM | What a great idea. Definitely helps a girl know that she is opening herself to the possibility of getting to someone who would really like to get to know her, as opposed to dealing with a person who is just throwing a fishing line out and settling for whatever (or however many) he reels in. When was the last time a girl was truly surprised by flowers that were delivered for absolutely no special occasion at all...just because?! I know I may be a little old fashioned, but I still believe that true chivalry is very romantic, and can sometimes speak louder than words.
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| Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers.
Posted: 10/14/2006 4:59:12 PM | OnxyBlue I think you may be wrong on the matter. From what I and a few others can tell women do not have the capabilities to send winks here.
LOL! If anyone thinks sending flowers translates to "look at my money" then they obviously have never been around power players with money. Since I have been around men from church mouse to power millionare, I can tell anyone flowers are not a "look at my money" item. A handful of women have said they prefer virtual flowers but not more than those who like the idea the admin has added to POF.
Also save the passive aggressive intellectual BS about only rotten things from rich men and what type of women will accept something from a rich man. The insinuation that women who place more emphasis and feel real flowers show more sincerity are gold diggers is insulting. No matter how so called enlightening you try to post it, it's still BS.
As someone who has floral training who have received and given flowers free to cheer people up, I know darn well a virtual flower does not make the cut with most people. Better yet $30 is darn cheap for flowers because being in the business I know how expensive arrangements can be.
Now to flip your whole, what should and shouldn't bother me around on you. If you don't have the $30 or you just figure no woman is worth that money, then you shouldn't worry about the new feature.
I've known all incomes of people, both men and women. Most people wouldn't know who really has big money if the person had a neon sign on their forehead stating such. Typically those with extremely high incomes don't reveal what they're really worth when dealing with those outside their own power circle.
The admin made a decision so far the majority likes it, so that's that. I see no need to consistently whine, moan, groan and badger the man.
Another thing save the Marley and Beatles references because I'm not feeling it.
EmeraldJag
P.S. I for one am not expecting anyone to send me flowers. I can buy my own like I do everything else I have. | |
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| Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers.
Posted: 10/14/2006 5:27:08 PM | Emeraljag,
Thanks for your input. You said a lot of interesting things, and you used the abbreviation for profanity several times so I am going to go out on a limb and suggest this is a good time for me to apologize to you because I don't come to forums to get cursed at or to make anyone get so upset as to curse at me, or send abbreviated curse words my way.
The admin made a decision so far the majority likes it, so that's that. I see no need to consistently whine, moan, groan and badger the man.
I'm having a conversation about the topic and so far it has been productive and encouraged some extremely beautiful points of view from many wonderful women and men on this thread which would not have come out otherwise. I think you will agree with me, that just because the majority likes creditcard flowers, doesn't mean that the majority also wouldn't like free-of-charge virtual flowers or free-of-charge virtual winks (especially if they had to manually turn-on the feature before ever reciving even one virtual flower or wink). The existence of one does not need to negate the other. I already know that there is an extremely large amount of people who have consistently requested virtual flowers and virtual winks. But everytime they request it their posts or threads are labeled off-topic and sent to a rarely visited forum, like mine was in the thread titled "Plentyoffish creditcard Flowers. Would free virtual flowers/winks help relationships blossom more?"...where you will find even more people agreed with me.
You can also read thoruogh the 'testimonials' forums and 'suggestions' forums and see how many, many times people have requested it.
Many people are also rather nervous about disagreeing with the admin because they have discovered that one or more of their threads will come up missing when that happens. I had a very popular thread I started that went on for two or three weeks about "name a song you'd recommend to someone in a relationship" and it had over 150 replies, countless people thanked me for starting the thread and it had thousands of page views and within 24 hours of stating my differing opinion to creditcard flowers to the admin it completely disappeared...after being up for 2 or 3 weeks. That type of thing would cause anyone not to speak up and disagree.
Again, I apologize if I insulted you it was not intentional. In the above thread I made, I didn't respond to someone and they were a bit upset about it, and now that I try to respond to everyone, still some people get upset. So if I don't reply to your posts anymore, please don't get offended, its just because I don't want anyone to say this is an argument. The manner in which a message is delivered often determines if the message is heard. Arguing solves nothing, especially when what we both desire can be achieved simultaneously with new and readily available technologies that exist...that could benefit POF users without bothering anyone who doesn't want to receive virtual winks or virtual flowers.
thanks,
and special thanks to the admin for allowing this conversation,
POF is awesome! :)
Love for all,
-onyx blue
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| Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers.
Posted: 10/14/2006 5:47:40 PM | I didn't touch your thread, I didn't even know it existed.
As for posts about virtual flowers, enough This is the thread for REAL flowers. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 6:07:54 PM | This is awesome ..I will have to check my list and see who I would like to send flowers too. There are some very special people on there. Kudos to you admin. this is great idea .please let us know how it is working ?
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Posted: 10/14/2006 6:19:55 PM | | Wait. You mean you can't see which user is sending you the flowers? That is silly. Why would I accept flowers from someone I am not interested in? | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 7:16:34 PM | | May be romantic to some....but what about the poor sucker who shelled out money to send somoene flowers who has no intentions of meeting him and may even laugh at him for sending them. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 7:24:21 PM | ^^^This is why as humans we were given the ability to make our own choices in life...one knows without taking a risk there is no gain.
As for laughing at someone for such a caring gesture is not very respectful.
Some ppl do things without expecting something in return.
VVV As for stalkers they don't have an address or any other personal info...and if you are afraid of that you shouldn't be on a dating site.
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| Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers.
Posted: 10/14/2006 7:27:26 PM | IT could also turn out to be a "stalker" risk.
IF one gets them and JUST tries to be polite
in getting them that can be taken as a show
of interest from the receiver.
Leading to follow up emails or more flowers
from the sender,etc. in response.
I personally tend to feel that the flowers
are temporary things that some feel
can show another their interest.
What if that interest fades or changes
and then someone is out how much
for spending on such item later on?
There are also a share of replies on here
that say they would NOT want some from
anyone they are NOT interested in.
What would you do?Refuse them or return them?
Is that not something to provoke angry response?
I have had men give me flowers in meeting
in person and I felt I never really knew
what to say then in reply as I just met them.
I really do NOT like CUT flowers.
I see them as they'll be wilted soon
and not more than just a fading memory
of having gotten them.
I feel this only adds to the floral business
and does not really keep a FREE site free now.
I WISH I had the OPTION here to NOT receive them.
I can just hope that anyone I share contact with
will first read my profile section stating
NO flowers wanted.
After knowing a man in the past for some time
I had fit in that I do not appreciate cut flowers,
he gave me plants then and they stayed ALIVE
and fresh just over the 2 years I was with him.
When things ended I let him keep the plants
so I don't know how much longer they lasted.
ANYONE that wants cut flowers, be my guest.
I for one would not contribute and feel that
if someone were sincere to get one's attention
or say they enjoyed someone's company,etc.
I would hope they were more creative or
original in what they did to show me then. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 7:51:42 PM | So, if someone does NOT want
them then they should give
the sender a card that says
NO thanks??
I feel that would be rude.
I just would NOT want them
to begin with so they would
NOT risk being offended later.
I WISH I had the option to put
do NOT send flowers to me on here
instead of just Send listing on the profile.
I really would RATHER have a man
offer to take me to a NICE fish fry
with that money instead as that
is one of the things I enjoy sharing.
OR to have him DO something
other than send a temporary gift
to try to impress me.
I just don't consider myself materialistic
or that routinely impressed by such item. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2006 7:52:11 PM | lol, interesting thread!!!! as much as those real flowers are nice I think virtual flowers are just as nice ( no I'm not cheap I've gaven a man roses in real life lol ) sometimes real flowers can be expensive, actually I know lol. well personally I'd take either.
for the people who are worried about someone sending you flowers that you don't like just say Thank you. maybe even leave a message on your profile I don't know?
btw I knwo this is a post for the real flowers, but there is many ways of showing your affections I think! | |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 5:29:38 AM | | i think its a lovely idea. very sweet and romantic. just hope i get sent some!! lol! | |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 6:24:38 AM | You deserve flowers and I would send flowers to you myself if I actually knew what I was doing on this computer . Its ashame when beautiful women have to send flowers to themselfs . Just wanted to say that
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| Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers.
Posted: 10/15/2006 6:45:49 AM | | It's a good idea, but it's also just another damn way for people to snub you! Let's say, you like somebody,... you send them flowers,...they never respond,...then, you've wasted all that time for nothing. Good idea, but I think we would've been better off with virtual flowers. Classact504 is dead on the money! | |
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| Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers.
Posted: 10/15/2006 8:30:59 AM | "It's a good idea, but it's also just another damn way for people to snub you! Let's say, you like somebody,... you send them flowers,...they never respond,...then, you've wasted all that time for nothing. Good idea, but I think we would've been better off with virtual flowers. Classact504 is dead on the money!"
Snub you! Then you are doing it for a purpose. Most ppl in their right mind just don't send flowers to strangers unless its a gesture of kindness...which so many lack.
People tend to have formed a bond of some kind before such an act as sending flowers, it shows sincerity. Not a waste of time unless you are reaching beyond the norm and expecting flowers will get you what you want!
You can't buy love but there is nothing wrong with showing kindness. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 9:55:30 AM | Many people are also rather nervous about disagreeing with the admin because they have discovered that one or more of their threads will come up missing when that happens. I had a very popular thread I started that went on for two or three weeks about "name a song you'd recommend to someone in a relationship" and it had over 150 replies, countless people thanked me for starting the thread and it had thousands of page views and within 24 hours of stating my differing opinion to creditcard flowers to the admin it completely disappeared...after being up for 2 or 3 weeks. That type of thing would cause anyone not to speak up and disagree.
This is the biggest nonsense I read in here, and how the poster come up with this idea I start to think people do make accusation on others based on their own rationalness scales. No, I strongly disagree that the Mod or Admin would delete one's existing Thread because that poster later made an unrelated thread in speak up of another Topic. I have seen Threads over 20 pages got deleted. My understanding is that Admin or Mods do not know about all the threads until some members reported the violations. I am sure your Thread got deleted for other reason than what's in your mind. Although you choose your words carefully by not exactly saying the Admin deleted your thread because they don't like you, but your paragraph do definitely send out wrong messages to all the POF Forums users here.
And about other members' comments regarding this Real Flower Feature is for the rich ones to show off their money, what I see is : It is not how much money one have, it is how one uses their money that counts. Only the spenders know the value of their money, for it is their money but nobody else's.
And about only the greeds like to receive flowers from strangers, my saying is: all Givers need Receivers. We accept gift graciously because we trust the kindness of the Givers without a hair of evil suspicious in mind; but then, some people seem to have difficulties to receive a gift by thinking they must owe the Giver something in return other than a simply thank you. I rather not let this type of simply things complicated my life. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 10:20:10 AM | An opportunity to send flowers? A splendid idea, in my opinion. Thank you POF. I would think that when the time comes for a beautiful bouquet, I would most likey send a message to the recipient reading, "I am forwarding flowers. I do hope that you will accept." In this manner, the young lady is allowed the opportunity to know from where the flowers originated. No guesswork on her part. And, remember gentlemen, no obligation either.
Just one man's humble opinion.
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Posted: 10/15/2006 10:49:21 AM | | Cyndaralla, my point exactly! You don't send flowers to a stranger...you send flowers when you're ALREADY IN a relationship. Nothing wrong at all with showing kindness...I'm (& some others) just saying that strangers generally do not send flowers, & if they do, they're generally going to be thought of as being some wierd kind of stalker, unfortunately. It's a no-win situation. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 10:55:24 AM | | Guys don't forget your sweeties on sweetest day. October 21st send her some flowers | |
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