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 Outdoor2

Joined: 4/1/2006
Msg: 26
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The Book 1984 and current events
Posted: 10/21/2006 10:35:33 AM
Now if you take people and constantly show them horrific visual images, and endlessly fabricate apocolyptic visions of the future, and you keep doing that over and over again - you have projected this fear almost into their DNA structure.


That sounds like the ending of "A Clockwork Orange"

Burgess wrote that the title was a reference to an alleged old****ey expression 'as queer as a clockwork orange'. ¹ Due to his time serving in the British Colonial Office in Malaya, Burgess thought that the phrase could be used punningly to refer to a mechanically responsive (clockwork) human (orang, Malay for 'person').

Burgess wrote in his later introduction, A Clockwork Orange Resucked, that a creature who can only perform good or evil is 'a clockwork orange—meaning that he has the appearance of an organism lovely with colour and juice, but is in fact only a clockwork toy to be wound up by God or the Devil; or (since this is increasingly replacing both) the almighty state. The Italian title, Un'Arancia Ad Orologeria, was interpreted to refer to a grenade.

In his essay "Clockwork Oranges"², Burgess asserts that 'this title would be appropriate for a story about the application of Pavlovian, or mechanical, laws to an organism which, like a fruit, was capable of colour and sweetness'. This title alludes to the protagonist's negatively conditioned responses to feelings of evil which prevent the exercise of his free will.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_clockwork_orange

 Intercooler

Joined: 2/18/2006
Msg: 27
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Posted: 10/21/2006 10:39:10 AM
It's quite disconcerting after reading the above post, to apply it's ideas and principles to what we are seeing in the political discourse of today, particularly that generated by Karl Rove and the Republicans.

Here in Missouri, we are being constantly pelted with those "OBL terrorism" campaign ads by the Republicans because the race for Senator between Jim Talent and Claire McKassgil is so close. If you've not seen the ads, I'll find one of them and post a link here. They are absolutely disgusting. They are the most base form of psychological manipulation and scare-mongering. They are trying in a most shrill and desperate voice to stoke the fires of fear of a menace that is not at all a reflection of the reality. The postulate being put forth by Bu$h and his henchmen that "if we don't fight them there, we will be fighting them here" is so completely full of shit and without merit that it actually contradicts itself. And when you think about it, by fighting them over there the way we have, we are actually making it MORE likely (through sheer volume of new terrorists we are creating) that something will happen here. We're not making the US or the world MORE safe by our actions. That's obvious to anyone who bothers to look at the evidence (and that of our collective intelligence agencies) with any level of objectivity.

Don't buy into their insidious manipulation. Those in power want you to be afraid. They want you to be scared. They want you to think only THEY can keep you safe.

It's a sham of the highest order.

17 days to election! Throw these bass-tards out!!
 Intercooler

Joined: 2/18/2006
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Posted: 10/21/2006 11:07:35 AM

U.S. Republican ad uses bin Laden image, words
Reuters
Friday, October 20, 2006; 9:06 PM


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republicans unveiled an advertisement on Friday featuring the image and words of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and a warning to voters that "these are the stakes" in the November 7 election.

The Republican National Committee ad, first shown on its Web site and scheduled for airing on cable television early next week, also includes images of al Qaeda fighters in training and other al Qaeda leaders.

"What is yet to come will be even greater," the ad quotes bin Laden as saying, before concluding with the words: "These are the stakes. Vote November 7."

President George W. Bush's Republicans, slipping in the polls from public dissatisfaction with the Iraq war, are fighting to retain control of Congress in the election. Democrats must pick up 15 House seats and six Senate seats to win a majority in each chamber.

Republicans hope to turn the debate in the campaign's closing stages back to their traditionally strong issues of national security and the war on terrorism, although recent polls show Democrats overtaking them on that turf.

Democratic Senate campaign committee spokesman Phil Singer called the ad a "desperate" effort to spur Republican voter turnout.

The bin Laden ad recalls one of the most famous American political ads, the 1964 "Daisy" ad used by Democratic President Lyndon Johnson in his race against conservative Republican Barry Goldwater.

It featured a small girl picking a daisy and a countdown to nuclear explosion before an announcer says, "These are the stakes."


It is just sickening the kind of abject manipulation being perpetrated here.

Here are some interesting video clips that relate to this discussion:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bQue_t0hJzc&mode=related&search=

This one is rather entertaining:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XsqPeqhKJ7Q&mode=related&search=

This ad is similar to the ones being shown in Mo, but the one I cannot find features Osama Bin Laden and is much MUCH more blunt in beating you over the head in trying to scare voters.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dv24gvV_ZGk
 Open_Book

Joined: 9/4/2005
Msg: 29
The Book 1984 and current events
Posted: 10/27/2006 10:31:42 AM

That is so interesting. And George Bush with his illegal wire tapping, illegal war, illegal detainments and such *isn't* slowly becoming Big Brother??!! I'm not saying Kim Il Jong isn't a thug, but holy cow--have a look at what is going on in the US--it has, according to many observers, a military dictatorship.


Not to mention...

The Problem with Presidential Signing Statements: http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20060113.html


Bush is using signing statements like line item vetoes. Yet the Supreme Court has held the line item vetoes are unconstitutional. In 1988, in Clinton v. New York, the High Court said a president had to veto an entire law: Even Congress, with its Line Item Veto Act, could not permit him to veto provisions he might not like.

The Court held the Line Item Veto Act unconstitutional in that it violated the Constitution's Presentment Clause. That Clause says that after a bill has passed both Houses, but "before it become[s] a Law," it must be presented to the President, who "shall sign it" if he approves it, but "return it" - that is, veto the bill, in its entirety-- if he does not.


Bush’s Signing Statement Dictatorship: http://www.fff.org/comment/com0610c.asp


George W. Bush has added more than 800 “signing statements” to new laws since he took office. Earlier presidents occasionally appended such comments to new statutes, but Bush is the first to use signing statements routinely to nullify key provisions of new laws.



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