Kee2
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/17/2006 8:32:59 AM | Hey, samisfaction. I think this was a great thread to start. I do think that California women are more fixed on material things. Some ARE down right gold diggers. I leave the gold diggers to do their digging elsewhere though. If you're not wealthy, why worry about it. A lot of women now look for men with great jobs and good incomes, but that is still a bit of a shallow view to take on the situation. Sometimes, I think they'd rather slide under some troll with a fat wallet than actually try to meet a nice guy that actually cares about them. I don't know where they get that kind of thinking from, but I think it's pushing the sexes apart. Everybody can't be rich. Lord knows I'm not rich, but I have my own things and my own place and I won't be asking any women for money to live on. I just want a woman who has her own and she never has to give me a penny. She should just enjoy my company as much as I enjoy hers and it's all good.
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/17/2006 11:50:00 AM | Well armyguy....we don't =) That is why we are still fishing......
Sterotypes may be a fun topic but they are ugly and we all should try and avoid them. Put a smile on your face and get back in the saddle. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/17/2006 6:40:15 PM | Oh yes, we are all gold diggers. In fact, we have a secret club where we network to check out your finances. We all worship the Goddess of tofu, from whence we draw our soy isoflavanoid powers.
The only reason I prefer to date someone who is financially secure, is so they don't depend on me for finances, as a single mom, I need to prioritize. Outside of that I find most men with money are a pain in the ass to deal with, and all they think about is their money. There is more to life.
Shallow women are gold diggers. Don't complain to us when you choose a woman for shallow reasons like her looks, and she turns out to be a rapacious money grubbing fiend. Instead, examine the methods you use for choosing and screening the women you get involved with. If something happens to you once, shame on them, more than once, shame on YOU.
If we want to discuss stereotypes, let's talk about how all men want is sex... Oh wait, that is true. :)
Now I am going to have some Prime Rib and a baked potato. I do this so I will have the strength to order the tofu on my next date. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:54:19 AM | | financially secure is another way to say RICH..and you dont have to be RICH in order to not depend on a woman for finances.im not even CLOSE to rich, and Ive never done that. As far as ALL men want sex...well ALL women do too.Is it the ONLy thing we want? No. in fact I know guys that dont even want sex, because the gold diggers actually ruin it for most women | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 12:42:30 PM | | I am from California, born and raised. I have through my own expierences, learned humility and how to be humble. Your right. You need to get out of the "snobby' district, and think outside that box. I don't mind that my silver platter is just chrome spray painted. It makes me a person with expeirence, strength and hope. Not silicone, acrylic and designer labels. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 1:17:01 PM | LOL
"California women are regarded as being gold-digging, tofu eating, self centered, and shallow than other women in the country (feel free to add stereotypes of your own)."
AND CALIFORNIA MEN THINK THEY DESERVE YOUNG AND CUTE WOMAN. Even when they are old, fat and ungly and poor. LOL
No where in the country do the men dis older woman like they here. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:00:48 PM | Though I've read through these forums before, I've never posted... however... I was compelled to put in a comment...
samisfaction - I realize that you have stated that this is not a sweeping generalization... but yet whenever I hear people sterotyping women of Southern California, I do get a tad defensive...
I grew up in the lovely Orange County and despite being a native - I personally don't fit your stereotype (though I do love tofu - but it's a result of an Asian heritage and growing up with vegetarian Buddhist grandparents  ) The stereotype set forth is a result of the social environment we have in Southern California... If you look at Southern California, it's a metropolitan - some remote city in the midwest isn't going to compare! The greater L.A. area is up to date on the latest fashion and social trends, and technological gadgets... the entertainment industry is right around the corner... we have beaches right at our fingertips (which is why we're a tad more health conscious than a lot of other areas of the country - people strive to look good... and i'm not saying that it's everyone here - but in general!)...
This leads to my point - and I'm not lumping everyone in the generalization either! - but because we live in an area that is at the forefront of the latest and greatest... it is hard to not be influenced by our environment! Yes, I feel lost when I don't have my cell phone on me... yes, I enjoy watching my flat panel tv... yes, I like to go shopping and try to keep up on the latest fashion trends... But I don't think that I am more materialistic than the average joe standing in line next to me at Starbucks. I'm not looking for that rich man to take care of me - that's why I'm getting my education! So I can make more money than him!  And everything I own, I've worked hard for... But I guess what I'm trying to say is - if I were to have grown up in another part of the country, that wasn't as affluent as Southern California, would I strive to gain material possessions? Would I live on my cell phone? Would I want to make a high income? I don't think so... We're a product of our social environment...
And as for shallow - you guys out there that say women are shallow because we chase after these Adonis-like men... who are you to judge?! So many of you out there are after the Barbie types, judging women based on the physical looks... Personally - I'm not into the chiseled abs (isn't there something extremely unnatural about them? they kinda scare me...) or men that look like greek gods... Pretty only goes so far...
So... that's my two cents... No offense to anyone - just purely my opinion... Meh - I'm gonna go eat some tofu now...  | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:02:53 PM | Hey Army,
We airborne, We seem to think the same... Let's go for a cold one sometime and checkout the women, shoot pool or whatever.
I agree financially secure is another way to say RICH. Your correct, I'm more into looking for friendship & companionship more so than sex. Sucks to have a 55k airstream trailer and be in there all by myself at Yosemite...I need to get a dog. So yeah....army lets go for a cold one    | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:36:22 PM |
financially secure is another way to say RICH
Well, maybe in your universe it might be. But that is a big over hasty generalization.
Having had a husband who did not work at all for 6 years, I know what I am talking about here.
Financially secure means:
Does not have a mountain of credit card debt.
Does not owe a mountain of back child support.
Is not running from the IRS.
Can meet his financial obligations on a monthly basis, whether he is working or retired.
Period.
AND CALIFORNIA MEN THINK THEY DESERVE YOUNG AND CUTE WOMAN. Even when they are old, fat and ungly and poor. LOL
No where in the country do the men dis older woman like they here.
Preach it sister! Add to that, when they find some hot little chickie who turns them down, they like to say it's because they are not rich enough. When if they had bothered to go past the looks to the substance, they might have found something much more interesting.
Trust me, everyone is selling something in the race for a relationship. What is required is pragmatism about the worth of what you are offering for sale, and you ALWAYS get what exactly you are willing to pay for.
We will eventually all be old and decrepit, God willing, and at that time, it is very likely we will all look like crap. Then what is left?
Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clear to the bone. -- Block's Murphy's Law | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:37:56 PM | | The subject your refering to is the me , me and oh yeah me complex of which every woman in cali i have had the misfurtune of meeting suffers from . Not to mention the silicon and botox. I happen to like my house, car, and bank account, there fore i will not get involved with a born and raised cali female . As far as sex , it don't take much for a cali female to take her clothes of all you have to do is simply wave. If you looking for a decent woman travel as far away from cali as possible . | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 7:32:30 PM | since when did mc donald's start putting tofu in their big macs????????? 
i work 3 jobs so i can afford that hamburger! | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 8:31:24 PM | | I would like to add my 2 cents to this post. I am a hardworking female. I have a boat,house by the colorado river, quads ,truck and trailer to pull them with. I have done this without any kind of support from a man. I am an intelligent, independent woman, fun loving and very active. You will find that there are just as many flakey,gold digging men here in CA as there are women. This is one of the major reasons I am in a dating site. It' s easier to weed out the serious suitors on a puter than when they are trying to grope you and move in the next day. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 9:31:12 PM | | I admit. When it comes to first impressions, I'm not going to settle for someone who looks like they live on the street. But it's not because I want to use their money, it's because I don't want them using mine. Growing up in southern Cali has made me leary of a lot of things. There's just been too many horror stories that women are trying everything they can to keep themselves from getting hurt. Can you blame us? | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 9:46:48 PM | | Well, hmm. I must say the gems are very difficult to find here in Southern Calif. And saying the myth is untrue and being in Northern Calif when saying that is just clouding your honesty. Everyone knows East L.A. has a much different flavor than West L.A. the gold diggers are evil by necessity. Only the wealthy can actually LIVE here! All others must coordinate or leave. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 9:49:58 PM | Show me an older woman (over 35) with good sense and I'll have a date to remember. Actually I am glad men dis the older ladies. More for me!  | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 9:53:41 PM | | Here's a hint: To a man "Financially secure" means "No longer need to work to earn money". Now you might understand the definition twist. My publicly traded stock portfolio is not enough to replace my normal earnings so 'secure' is not something I would judge myself being. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 10:15:25 PM |
As far as sex , it don't take much for a cali female to take her clothes of all you have to do is simply wave. If you looking for a decent woman travel as far away from cali as possible .
I don't know what women you are picking, but I assure you, they are not the cream of the crop. In my experience, a lot of men have no idea what to do with a decent woman. You might meander through the Tom Leykis thread if you have any questions. In fact, check the ratio of women here looking for 'intimate encounters' to the men here. Then come back and tell us what you find.
I'de say with your attitude, you should feel fortunate to get laid by most any woman, regardless of her state of residence.
I am a hardworking female. I have a boat,house by the colorado river, quads ,truck and trailer to pull them with. I have done this without any kind of support from a man. I am an intelligent, independent woman, fun loving and very active. You will find that there are just as many flakey,gold digging men here in CA as there are women.
Amen sister. They take one look at my big house and start planning on where to unpack. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 11:06:22 PM | Financially secure means:
Does not have a mountain of credit card debt.
Does not owe a mountain of back child support.
Is not running from the IRS.
Can meet his financial obligations on a monthly basis, whether he is working or retired.
Period.
Hey, I meet those qualifications and actually have a high credit score, but as soon as I tell a woman what I do they run because it isn't glamourous and cool so that they can brag about it to their girlfriends and parents. I really don't know if this is a California thing. I noticed in the main forum a few months ago there were some women saying you had to make at least 6 figures before they would consider dating you. Now don't get me wrong, I know not all women are like this but it just seems to be a disturbing and growing trend. And yes guys can be just as shallow sometimes. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/18/2006 11:29:56 PM | | I don't think that's necessarily true.. I'm from California, and I know plenty of nice women. Tofu-eating? I think in general, women tend to want to eat healthier than men.. maybe because they're so self-conscious about their body appearance. And me.. I just eat tofu because I'm Asian, grew up with it, and like it. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/19/2006 7:42:58 AM | Okay Poster.....
You say that you live in the more "snobby" area of LA, and you find that women from Northern California are "nicer"...
I'm from Northern California......actually, and was raised in both placed. Steve Miller had it right, "Northern California where the girls are warm"....but that is just a song.
ITs true....No. Cal people are very different. Much nicer, but you have to look at the idea that many of the people living in the snobby area of LA where you say you go to College...are not FROM LA. Not at UCLA, where they come from all over the Country, and not in SAnta Monica....where they come from everywhere to be actors. So, interesting those areas are full of people who may have narcisstic ideations who come here from all over to go to Santa Monica.
Ayan Rand -- the sociologist and philosopher used to live in Chatsworth. She was Russian. She said she had to get out of here....people were "paranoid" and whe went back to New York. It's true...people here are paranoid, and it may be because they are so far away fom home and family they don't trust others and they fear others. THink about it. They are here alone from so far away. They are also all hoping for somekind of gratis as actresses and whatnot. So, there you go. But NATIVE CAlifornians...especially when you go up north.....they approach you, talk, say Hello, and are very warm. I am one of them, and my brother and I have been in culture shock since we came here as adolescents. IT really is a cold place to live. But often I find that coldness comes from people who come here from OTHER PLACES.....in the immigrant exodus. Some of those are very nice....you can tell they are not fom here. And some are weird. It's also ....manners and class.
Some folks are just antisocial...but it isn't a sex prediliction about women....it is across the board. I meet weird men who lack manners, too. They just lack manners. They may not even be from here and they came here for some "fun in the sun" and to be in the film business...they hoped. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/19/2006 9:48:40 AM | | I just call it like i see it . I also work as a bouncer and 90% of the woman that i see on a weekly basis are married , boyfriend, and or looking to experimenting with another female . Mind you that these woman are not local there form all over california and are there to party for the weekend . All i can say from what i see them do I have to thank god i never got married . I have found that cali is a very very boring place where very few woman walk due to the fact that you have become a slave to your car and your cell phone . No wonder why alot of you are over weight , get up and do something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/19/2006 9:02:49 PM | people suck no matter where you go... this isn't just a CA thing. there are super cool people in southern CA and there are snotty people... that holds true anywhere you go. as far as the six figure thing goes... i don't know ONE woman that has that on her list of dating "must haves" in a man. so, for what it's worth... all us southern CA girls aren't as bad as some might make us out to be. and keep in mind the cost of living in CA is rediculously high. it can take more than one income to run a household and that holds true for single women and single men... women just struggle a bit more because of that "glass ceiling". we all know men typically make more than women do but that doesn't mean we're all "after their money".
i've been single all my life and don't plan on changing that... i keep 6 figures in the bank and i didn't need a man to put it there for me. i've always worked hard and set my goals high. raised my son on my own while his deadbeat dad got off scott free... i did it ALL on my own. so... if that's snotty... then i'm a snot but i'm a self-sufficient and independant snot. | |
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