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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/21/2006 3:47:33 AM | Myth. There are shallow and materialistic women and there are intelligent women with character everywhere.
"Rich" "Wealthy" "Gold digger" "Must be financially secure" "six-figure income" These are terms I hear on these types of threads and is comical to read. Although these terms are completely relative, people tend to mention these terms as if there is a certian set of criteria assigned to them.
For example:
Financially secure means:
Does not have a mountain of credit card debt.
Does not owe a mountain of back child support.
Is not running from the IRS.
Can meet his financial obligations on a monthly basis, whether he is working or retired.
This sounds like barely getting by to me. If "significant amount of savings and investments" were added to this list, that would mean "financially secure" to me. Although "significant" is also a relative term.
And with that in mind, one may be "financially secure" but not necessarily "rich" or "wealthy".
When someone says "six figure income" what do they mean? 100k? 200k? 400k? 800k?
While 100k annual income in Columbia, SC may be considered a great income, allowing for a better lifestyle, 100k in Los Angeles is barely climbing out of middle class, hardly rich...
The most materialistic people I see ironically are suburban middle to upper middle class. The "keeping up with the Jones’s mentality" These types seem to be to most focused about money and uptight about it. These are the ones complaining about "gold diggers”. This is another relative term.
A 28 year old blonde bombshell who marries a 90 year old billionaire gentleman ready to croak is a true gold digger...not a woman who won't go halves on a steak dinner you invited her to
It is not Southern Californian women who are shallow, etc…our society in general is materialistic. There is nothing wrong with wealth, affluence, luxury. There is something wrong with placing more value to these superficial things than they are worth.
Most truly wealthy people I know generally downplay their wealth and don’t make a show of it. Another irony is multi-millionaires –billionaires tend to be more down to earth and less impressed with money. Maybe it is because they can afford not to be, it may be that they know first hand money is not the bottom line when it comes to happiness. Character, virtue, relationship, and a good name are far more valuable and long lasting than money.
It’s the 35 year old with a 100k income living in Rancho Cucamonga in a mortgaged and second mortgaged house who pulls up in his leased 06 Benz to the club, no doubt to be inundated with these evil “gold diggers” impressed with the superficial illusion of “financial security” who are the most materialistic.
Middle class, superficial pigs who will not only not ever gain much monetary wealth, but because of self serving ideals they will likely miss out on true wealth as well. which -irony on irony, there is no cash value to be placed on it.
Superficial people attracting other superficial people in their lives…what a shame. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/21/2006 5:17:19 AM | | Ok heres another imprtant factor in this topic: hollywood!!! Look at who is shown in the public eye: Tara Reid, Paris Hilton, Pamela Anderson-Lee-Rock-Baio whatever. Unfortunately these walking buckets of silicone are what you see on nat'l Television.. We cant keep the trashiest of people off of TV.Has anyone ever been to Hollywood? you leave there feeling like you need a tetnis shot. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/21/2006 9:33:08 AM | | So, I just had to reply to this!! I am definitely a California woman, born and raisied here in San Diego and I am probably as down to earth as they get and as far from "snobby" as they get. And as far as "golddigging" I resent that California girls are even catoragized as such!! I have many many California girlfriends and none of them are golddiggers! I am the type of woman that just likes to lead a simple life with good family values!I think that most California girls are really quite nice!!! | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/21/2006 10:03:38 AM | I agree with SanteeMom, 100%
I'll admit, I am a little materialistic, But with that said, I drive an older car, I don't have credit cards, I pay cash for everything, I get giddy over clearance at my favorite stores, I have a hard time paying full price for anything... I do like nice things, but I LOVE getting it myself. I get great satisfaction from the fact, that everything I have, is because I work very hard for my girls and I have enjoy... I don't need anyone to provide it for me...
Now, if wanting to find a guy who is responisible with his money and credit is superficial, then I think that EVERYONE is superficial.... But you can't help who you fall in love with... I left a very wealthy man, for my now exhusband. I always said " I would rather be poor and happy, than rich and lonely"...
Money isn't everything. Responisbility and knowledge is... Money can be wasted and burned the other two, can't. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/21/2006 10:53:10 AM |
It’s the 35 year old with a 100k income living in Rancho Cucamonga in a mortgaged and second mortgaged house who pulls up in his leased 06 Benz to the club, no doubt to be inundated with these evil “gold diggers” impressed with the superficial illusion of “financial security” who are the most materialistic.
Middle class, superficial pigs who will not only not ever gain much monetary wealth, but because of self serving ideals they will likely miss out on true wealth as well. which -irony on irony, there is no cash value to be placed on it.
Superficial people attracting other superficial people in their lives…what a shame.
Oh yes. Please don't complain to me that all women in CA are gold diggers when you are spending it like it's on fire and will burn up if it sits around.
I have dated men with incomes I found staggering, financed up to their yin yangs for jetskis, cars, trucks, quad runners, Carribean vacations.
This sounds like barely getting by to me. If "significant amount of savings and investments" were added to this list, that would mean "financially secure" to me. Although "significant" is also a relative term.
I am not interested in any man for what he has. However the line does cross in this one place... Irresponsibility financially, can spill into other areas of their lives.
Most men that meet their obligations financially, also have savings, because they are responsible with their money. Responsible men are the attraction. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/21/2006 11:55:07 AM |  I love how these posts manage to work right past the self-centered and shallow part of the aforementioned stereotype.
Yeah, it's everywhere and it everybody's fault but I've been around and I can attest to their being a significantly more intense concentration in L.A. and places like it than say Hartford or Humboldt. L.A. has got it's own dominant sub-culture and it is what it is. Then we film it and we broadcast it worldwide and we get to share our little virus.
As to all the people on here with height, shape, attraction "requirements"... You are shallow. I know you're just being honest but you're being honest about how shallow you are. Independence is a beautiful ability but when it becomes a priority it becomes really easy to loose sight of each other. Welcome to L.A.!... Now go home.
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/21/2006 4:49:40 PM | | I think it's valid to be wary of people who are interested in your finances and what you do before they even get to know your personality. I'd be just as wary if I was a woman and the first message I got from the guy was "do you have more pictures" or "how much do you weigh." This is just a character thing. It tells me that if we ever come on hard times she may just take off, or if your a woman, as soon as you get a little old or overweight he'll take off. It's not really a "golddigger" thing as in they have to be "filthy rich." It's a "self centered" thing which come in both genders and all areas of the country. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/21/2006 8:56:45 PM | | Of course we want money. A rich man controls how his money is spent. I would never give that kind of control to a man. I make make my own money, therefore I control how it's spent. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/21/2006 9:12:26 PM | | uhhhh no i live in sacramento, i think they are all the same anywhere u go, b/c people are people no matter what, i think | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/21/2006 9:13:43 PM | : oneextremehiker on 10/16/2006 10 55 AM
Subject: California women: fact or myth?
Message: I am from Northern California. Since when have women been nicer here than anywhere else? I'm talking about San Francisco Bay Area. It maybe true women in sacramento or central valley are nicer.
uhhhh no i live in sacramento, i think they are all the same anywhere u go, b/c people are people no matter what, i think | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/22/2006 9:36:11 AM | Maybe it depends on the woman and the age. I am NOT a gold digger and believe in sharing the cost of things. Some men I've dated would rather pay for everything, others apperciate it when I offer to pay for gas or pay for lunch and he pays for dinner.
I don't eat tofu, although I don't mind it. I'm not snobby, stuck-up, or self-centered, although I can be a little shy at times.
I'm in my early 50's, and most of my friends are similar to me, but I have found that the younger ladies can be more "stereotypical" California girl.
We are all different, and that's what makes the world wonderful!!! | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/27/2006 5:29:01 AM | I meet high quality, (relatively) honorable women every day. I mean, everyone has their flaws. I never got involved with a woman I thought was a gold digger, then again, I don't have much gold to dig. All I can offer a gal is really great kissing and a delicious meal. Maybe some romantic adventure too. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/27/2006 9:24:35 AM | Thats really to bad that you think that way.. I was born in Cali and at 42 like here in San Diego county and not toot my own horn but anyone of you guys would be so lucky to meet a true californian like me.................i am prolly one of the most caring, giving and delightful. maybe you shouldn't be so quick to JUDGE.......................think about it | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/27/2006 12:14:03 PM | I have to admit...I've met some very down to earth girls from San Diego. I think there are good people everywhere. You just have to search them out. That being said, we do have a different situation in SoCal. I had a talk recently with a good friend of mine who seemed to have a lot of data on this subject. She was adamant that I should only date transplants like myself. The Women in SoCal also have to deal with the Men in SoCal. Just about all the men in SoCal are available- married or not! These guys have money, looks and attitude. No girl is too young in SoCal if she is thin with boobs. SoCal men are good at chatting girls up and dropping the bombs. Girls just get shell shocked and have to learn how to deal with the attention. There are 5 men to every girl and it doesn't take long to get that SoCAL attitude. Any girl with a BMI under 25 is going to get hit on, and hit on hard. It happens here like now where else! By the time a girl hits her mid 20's she has had to take on that SoCal persona. Its just part of the training. She is well trained. She knows what works and what doesn't. She knows how to get what she thinks she wants....Its pretty sad.....Most women who grow up here don't know any different! The Men don't either! By that 2nd or 3rd Vegas Wedding they just give up and go looking for sell out or a well trained sex buddy (like themselves).
No to put so much doom and gloom on the subject! Lets give these poor lost souls some hope- ha, ha....Lets make this "Date a Native" week! All you transplants make it your Civic duty to go out and date a SoCal Native. Give it your best shot, look past the silicon, the botox and the beamers- adopt a native. Anyone can do it for a week. Don't worry about the week, they'll be used to it....
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/27/2006 1:22:42 PM | | I must agree with you to a certain degree that this is true of some women but NOT all. I'm native socal girl and live in a snobby area, BUT I am definitely none of the above. I am the exact opposite. I have found in talking with men that they all have that view of us, which is unfair to those of us like myself, we don't even get an opportunity to express ourselves and are automatically passed judgement on. But I must also say, the men that have this perception must also take inventory on what their standards are and what they are looking for in a woman, some of them complain about shallow, gold digging women but yet that themselves are shallow and only looking at the superficial. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/27/2006 5:26:10 PM | This whole thread goes in both directions... I'm a transplant and find that I have yet to find a native male in San Diego that isn't looking for that trophy girl you all complain about. Yeah, they are definitely a product of the men around them.
Yesterday, for example, I got this message from a guy complaining all he gets are gold diggers etc etc etc and in the next breath all he could do is go on in this introductory message about how he wants to spoil his woman and travel with her and doesn't need to work. My guess would be if he doesn't want to be chased by gold diggers then he shouldnt present himself as gold lined. Confidence is one thing... obnoxious is another. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/27/2006 5:45:49 PM | Southern California Women, tend to Crave Security and most younger men don't know how to effectively deal with that little aspect of life...
 Finding a Good Woman is kinda like panning for GOLD,sometine it Looks pretty GOOD,but there's really nothing there,other times you just get muddy water and rocks,But once in a very great while I find a Good Clean Nugget,a Keeper,if ya just treat her with a little respect,she might just last a lifetime...   | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/27/2006 7:02:25 PM | Well now,,,I must ad to this after reading all 3 pages,of everybody,tooting there own horn Iam glad to be 50,living alone,house pd for,10 blks from beach,summer house in rockies pd for,Iam soooo wonderful I just Love Me,,o my Iam balding,50,overweight,need glasses to read,only work in the winter,summers off in the rockies an yellowstone,NowI think I will go down an buy a brand new,,,,Z 06,,,corvette,off the sho rm floor,,ooooooo boy,  | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/27/2006 7:23:00 PM | | It's true. All my single friends agree. These are the worst biches in the country. I wont even play this game anymore. My Ca buddy has been in New Mexico and finds them totally different. When are we going to learn to shine these selfish using kuntz on! | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/27/2006 7:45:20 PM | | Yep, I noticed it. They are friendlier up north. Guys...blow these women off. The only ones that are friendly have 4 kids at home and are 70 pounds over weight. | |
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| California women: fact or myth?
Posted: 10/28/2006 7:09:38 AM | O one more thing,I do believe strongly that 60% of the women on these dating sites,areNot Single Women,they are in a relationship,an just window shopping,playing games.An also if u are a single man,,,,,living in 805,u are in the worst area of California u could be in,,,,ratio 7 men to every 1 single woman,,,these stats were direct quotes last year out of la times,an Aol,singles guide,,805 is breederville,an college girls,18 yo 21,an teenieboppers,also pissed off divorcees that think every man they meet is a Pig.Everytown in 805 is homes,homes,homes,,,No jobs or industry to support a strong base of Single Women.Which means u must search in la,50 mile minimum drive,to go meet a money grubbing,want a be model,,,pathetic bonehead LULU. So if men in 805 looking to meet women,,,I will stand by my guns,as I have said before on here U Must do yer search across stateline borders,.In order to meet a happy,friendly,glad to see u,No Attitude Woman,either bring her back here,or plan on long distance relationship,,,which can an does work if u are committed to each other.Chances are she is Not going to want to live here though.Eventually u may have to make a move..So What,,,so cal is a total wasteland if u are searching for a single woman.Give up an do the right thing guys,,,,,,,,,,Search out of State,,,U will see they are great,happy ,gals u will meet. Get in your vehicle an dont be scared to drive 1000 mi or whatever . Quit banging yer head against the wall in so cal,,,,,It Aint Gonna Happen Here,,to many LULU;s, money grubbers,pissedoff divorcees,manhaters,an the gay thing. I donot spend summers out here,,so ,I do know what Iam talking about,,,,,, | |
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