| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/28/2007 7:09:31 PM | The love you make is equal to the love you take in the end.
To date, that is the best sentence I have read, ANYWHERE, in a very long time.
Frankly, that's worth every cent I can muster. Where as, if the money impresses the other person, they're not worth a cent to me.
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/28/2007 8:25:12 PM | The "who asks should pay" scenario may be fine in real life, but it's a bit disingenuous on an Internet dating site. Everyone on here, female and male, is "asking" for a date just by being here.
Best all around, in my opinion, to share the cost of dates. If it becomes a regular thing, then you work it according to income. Obviously if one person earns four times as much as the other and wants to go expensive places, the less-affluent person would go broke trying to pay for half.
Other than that, or special occasions, going dutch makes the most sense. You'd pay for your own food if you were sitting at home alone, so why not when you're with a nice person having a pleasant conversation? | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/29/2007 6:18:21 AM | | I don't think a man should pay for everything. When I meet a man for the first time, all I want is 'coffee and conversation' to see if we are compatible. Coffee is not that expensive, so either could pay. If we continue to date, it works out equally over time. Sometimes, the date is my treat. Other-times, I cook for him at home, which can be expensive. And if we go on a picnic, I pack the lunch basket. If a man is worried that he spent more than I, or vice-versa, then it's time to stop seeing each other. I don't think dating should be a financial burden on either party. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/29/2007 6:22:19 AM | | There is absolutely nothing wrong with going dutch. A woman feels free to order what she wants, without feeling an obligation toward the man afterwards. And both can relax and have a good time. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/29/2007 6:52:39 AM | The man pays for everything because for centuries, women had no money of their own. They received money first from their fathers, then from their husbands. There also wasn't a lot of dating going on for many of those centuries because marriages were arranged. When dating did become the norm, a man wanted to impress the woman--show her that he was a good provider by being able to take her to the nicest restaurant he could afford.
It amuses me to see a man rail against practices that were put into effect because of a patriarchal society that consistently gave women the disadvantage.
If you want to get pissed because men are "expected" to pay for dinner, etc., get pissed at the men who preceded you and set the precedent, not at freeloading women. Also, when you get invited to a woman's house for dinner, how much do think SHE shells out to impress YOU? | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/29/2007 7:47:05 AM | Chris ~ I don't have the same experience that you do ~ I suppose?
Naturally, if you date a lady of little means ~ you should be willing to finance the evening ~ all the way to helping with the babysitter
This is a sign of your sincere interest in being with this lady. ~ Heck , bring in a bag of grocies and a new garbage can ~what the relationship worth to you?
Many of the ladies I have dated have more money then god ~ they buy me things tho I never ask. ~ I find women very generous, for the most part.
I never date a women for what she's got or don't have ~ As for myself, I've lived a life of an Adventurer and care little for money, for me ,Money is to use, but it is nice that someone does have a bunch of it. What I've had over the years , I given away ~ A good truck, pair of boots, a gutiar and a house clean and clear has got the basics, anything else is gravy.
If you worry about Rich and Skinny you"ll wind up Poor and Fat.
I know everyone can't be like me ~ nor should they
But good women, and there is a lot of them ~ are very generous. They possess All the good stuff and control more the half of the money,
Just don't piss em off or be hurtful.
So get your head right on this little matter of reality and make the best of a good thing.
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/29/2007 10:27:44 AM | Ok let me say something some one should have said a long time ago. Its an unwritten rule from the book " THE DATING CODE" . All people practicing " DATING " should respect this code or our world would be in chaos. NOW THE RULE IS.
THE ONE WHO ASKED FOR THE DATE SHOULD PAY. ITS UNIVERSAL. Oh and btw i believe it should always be around 50/50. Don't freaking count it but cmon like u pay for some she pays for some its the way things should be. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/29/2007 9:06:14 PM | There is nothing wrong with woman helping out on a date or even paying for it! But, you guys have to consider that women do like to look nice for their man! So being conservative here; skirt $25, blouse $40, heels $40,stockings $6, manicure $25, and perfume, waxing, and who knows what else we do!! So come on guys, you have to understand that we women spend alot of money on looking good for you. There is the difference, so basically women spend money on a date and men are just not looking at it this way!
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/30/2007 10:31:39 AM | Thats bullcrap we spend just as much money as womend do PLZ DO NOT MAKE THIS A SEX WAR IM TIRED OF THEM. WERE ALL EQUAL IN EVERY WAY or suposed to be. GUYS spend as much time looking good for women as women do for men. I always shower, wash my hair , shave , use cologne, use a cream after i shave, bursh my teeth intensivelly, i wear 100$ + shoes always, 500$ gold necklace, 150$+ dress shirts, 150$+ designer jeans ETC. I have tons of cologne most of them costing like 40$+ a bottle. Oh and now im getting a tattoo soon which is gonna cost me like 300 bucks. I FREAKING WORK FOR 8.50$ AN HOUR!. ok so plz dont say women shouldn pay for dates cuz they spend money on clothes we spend just as much or even more.
Its always the golden rule... the one who asked for the date pays for the date. But u always live with balance we've always wanted balance. ALWAYS 50/5o | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/30/2007 12:57:03 PM | Octavian, I think a financial planning class is in order for you while you are attending school. You are going to spend one weeks pay on a tattoo?? Obviously making $8.50/hr you must still live at home to still be able to afford those kind of luxuries. It is a known fact that women spend alot more money in grooming and clothes on average. Check it out for yourself. C'mon my little panties that you can ball up in your hand are at least twice as much as your boxers! Like I said nothing wrong with a woman paying for a date, but you guys do have to remember how much we spend on impressing your eyes! It seems what I typically end up doing on a date is the man pays for dinner and I treat him to a few****ails afterward. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/30/2007 1:20:54 PM | DAR~
Where have you been all my life...ol great beaded one Yes I agree, but to add to this I will say
If YOU ask a girl out for the first date...Hello, pay for it or be up front and tell her you can't. If I pay for myself, and I can and will, you wont see me for a second date because you are too cheap. On the other hand, I give back what I receive. If the relationship continues, he will be showered with gifts/ dinner as he has shown the same for me.
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/30/2007 3:18:46 PM | | plz can u stop im tired of the sex wars.. whos doing this whos doing that. Why dont you think it should be equal why...our society is struggling to make everything equal and there are those who hold it back. As long as there are people holding it back we will never be equal and will never evolve to a higher plain of existence in complete harmony. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/30/2007 4:13:59 PM | if you asked her out as a date...then you pay. if you are just hang out buddies, the woman should offer to pay her share. But unless you are a cheap ass creep, you would not take her up on it.
In my opinion if I have to pay for the date, then when you come to my house, I will give you a check at the end of the night for everything you ate and drank....plus 20% tip of course. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/30/2007 4:26:17 PM | | My personal opinion is that the guy pays for the first couple dates, up to his means. Not all of us have a lot of disposable cash these days. I know I don't. Once both people are comfortable in where the dating is going, then start to share the costs of the evening out between you both. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/30/2007 5:24:00 PM | Octavian (of what are you the eighth?), if you are making $8.50 an hour and can spend $500 on a gold necklace and have tons of colognes that cost $40 a bottle, you can't be paying rent or be living on your own.
Also, your scope on the world is very narrow--no one told the men whom I date that "universal" golden rule that you claim. But then, I'm old.
And phew, what is that smell? | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/30/2007 5:31:01 PM | Gwendolyn why are u flaming the forums i dont understand too many people here are hostyle. The necklace was a gift from my grandparents and its special to me so plz do not attack it. I was trying to prove a point that men spend as much money to look good as women do so please. And now im not paying rent i live with my parents, im 18, i go to college... put the pieces together plz its easy dont judge me without knowing everything and plz do not flame the forums cant we all just get along?
If you dont think men and women should be equal in every way then plz speak up but dont make fun of what i posted. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/30/2007 7:39:19 PM | If your grandparents gave you the necklace, you aren't spending money to look good . . . lol! Your grandparents are spending it!
I am not hostile, dude, and I am not "flaming" the forums--I am merely giving my opnions and observations as you are doing. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 5/31/2007 8:06:46 AM | | Actually i've always payed i don't realy mind it that much but hey why shouldn't she pay for 1-2 dates out of 20 u know. Sigh no1 believes in equality any more... stop insulting me realy why cant we all just get along? " cheap ass " ?? lol im not the one insulting guys that say everything should be equal. Please just stop the insults people its just realy immature every one has their opinion were just giving it here were not here to insult others but to listen and maybe learn from them. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 6/4/2007 3:01:50 PM | Listen up most of the Women in Texas are tighter than a ducks ass .....an that's water tight .......... They try to make you feel cheap if you don't pay for everything . Just because they can and they are well practiced at it ! Personally don't need that used feeling .........I feel just fine being appreciated for who I am.Not what I can pay for ............. Women that think that way are just hookers in disguise .........I despise them ! | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ???? Posted: 6/4/2007 5:02:25 PM | A first date is just a meeting. I don’t need to impress women with a fancy dinner (that’s what a personality is for) coffee is fine. If things go well & we are both hungry, maybe dinner.
Who pays??? For the coffee it doesn’t matter. The dinner, I play by ear and will often pay. However, if she insistent, it says a lot about her… | |
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