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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 11/28/2008 1:36:05 PM | Puh-leeze. Women do not think men should pay because they think they are special. Paying for a woman for the first few dates in the beginning of courtship makes you a gentleman. Once you are in an actual relationship...it should be 50/50. But if you still question it when you are first pursuing a woman...you are cheap.
When a man offers to take me out and pays..I offer to pay the tip. Other than that...I was raised that the guy pays for you for the first 3 dates or so...if he is the one who wants to take you out. My brother agrees to this as well and does not expect anything in return from any woman he takes out...her company is good enough for him. Then again, I am asian....we are old fashion that way.
But once we are in an actual exclusive relationship, I don't have a problem pitching for half or taking the guy out now and then. Money is not an issue with dating unless you make it an issue. Once you're in a relationship, you pay your half for the other person because you want to, not because you feel obligated to...its all about taking care of each other. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 11/28/2008 4:23:22 PM | Perhaps women should go dutch while dating, then we wouldn't have to listen to anymore whining from men who paid our way while on a date but didn't get what they wanted at the end of the night. Of course, that would mean they would have to accept us as independent women, and we all know men don't want that! lol! Also, they couldn't call us gold diggers anymore!  | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 1/16/2009 11:48:40 AM | | Wow, your post has left me speechless. I can't believe that any man would post what you have posted Mr. Talentsgalore. It's apparent to me that you are "cheap", lack class and love to be play the VICTIM. Who would make an issue out of something so trivial?? Maybe you should start working on your aggression towards woman, and in the mean time do us all a favor and take your profile off plentyoffish. bye: | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 1/16/2009 12:03:40 PM | | hm...I usually don't let the guy buy everything. I have paid for a date, usually the second date....BUT, when a man makes a full dollar and the woman only makes 79cents on that dollar, who can afford more???? | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 1/16/2009 7:58:12 PM | | think the first date should be 50/50..but if the woman asks the guy out..who pays then? ha but lets be honest, most women expect the guy to cough up on a first date..even if they do offer to go halves themselves...equality eh..? ha | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 1/16/2009 8:47:37 PM |
I actually insisted I pay on one date and the guy was offended. I have been told that (maybe this is a southern thing) it makes them feel good, like they are showing the women that they can "take care" of their woman.
Personally, I don't get offended when a woman offers to pay. In fact, I think it's a nice gesture. I do, however, do like paying for a first or second date. not sure if it's anything about "taking care" of a woman or anything as deep as that -- I just know I like doing it. If a woman insists on paying her part, though, I will of course relent.
Once the dating gets rolling, though, then I would start to expect a woman to chip in a bit more often. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 1/16/2009 9:11:30 PM | | Be man and say something. Like how about I dont pay for everything all the time. Sack up..worst she can do is leave you...there's like billions of women out there..get what you want and be a MAN, you will get more women you want by saying what you want | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 1/18/2009 5:51:29 AM | I don't mind paying for the first or second dates, I really like treating, especially if my date makes an offer to help out, If she's strapped for $$$ , I can understand and will likely so no, its OK, there are a few that want to wined and dined, only to turn head when the ante is due. If a dinner date is planned, I should expect to pay, but I've been on dates that went longer and we eventually had dinner, in those cases, unexpected ones, a Woman should help out, even its only the Tip.
I have had agreement with Ladies, that couldnt really afford alot of dates, that I would pay, all of the time, just to take the $$$ issue out of the relationship. MY CHOICE.  | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 1/18/2009 6:29:20 AM | | I can't speak for other women but for me if a man asks me out I believe he should pay, if I ask him out I pay. Seems simple to me. Having said this even if he asks me out I still try and pay my half, sometimes they let me sometimes they don't. lol But hell I haven't had a date in so long I really couldn't tell ya. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 1/18/2009 6:39:14 AM | I believe that we are in the "dating" phase, it should be the invitee that does the paying, even if the guy ends up paying through insistence.
And unlike Aloha, it is not a "cultural norm" that a man pays in the asian culture. That's an outdated viewpoint. It's more "old fashioned" than "asian". | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 1/18/2009 9:23:53 AM | Boy, vast array of "opinions" here. Personally, I don't dwell to much on it, as long as their is open/honest *communication* about the expectations.
Uncommunicated expectations are a *big* problem. If you expect me to pay for everything, and are clear about that as an expectation - then its my choice as to whether I can accept that or not. If not, then its obviously not a "right" relationship for me? If I'm somehow "responsible" for your feelings, but mine are "dismissed", if there is some set of "rules" I'm expected to follow regardless of how I feel, then its probably not really a "partnership".
Who pays for a date? Hell, I don't care... I'll pay if I can afford it, but if I can't afford it and she can, but me not being able to afford it at the time is a "major issue", that's a big glaring red flag to me. I thought the idea was to have a good time together, enjoy each others company, not "get something (monetary) out of it".
Most hated words for me? "If you loved me you'd...". Case in point, I had 3 vacation days left from work, and a pair of ($500 each, non refundable) plane tickets for one ex-GF and I to go visit my family for Thanksgiving week (3 days off, 2 holiday days). She pops up one Sunday a month before with "you need to take tomorrow off and stay here". Hey, I would have *loved* to, if I had the time, and said so - but I had already put down for the vacation time and had none to spare (and yes, I paid for the tickets). "You don't love me, if you did you'd take tomorrow off." Um, Ok, look, I can even talk to the boss about a few days off without pay, if we plan it - but I can't just take a day (or even a week) off without pay without the OK from work? "You don't love me, its over." (got a friend to go with me, still ate the $500 plane ticket but at least we had an ok time and it didn't go to waste). Unreasonable expectations? Work *with* me, don't hold me responsible for not risking my job (and house/mortgage) because of your expectations?
I think what destroys most relationships are unreasonable expectations, unwillingness to compromise, lack of communication (which includes *listening* and *understanding* on both sides)... | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 1/18/2009 10:32:37 AM | | I have met some men who say that if they always pay and buy the women expensive things that means they like her a lot. If they are just dating her to pass time waiting for someone they really like then she can pay part of the time or all of the time. Maybe it is a thing where I live, but seems as if a man meets a woman from talking to her online,etc., and even though he has asked her to meet, he pays if he is interested in her, but if not he tells her he does not find her attractive or whatever and expects her to pay. What has happened to manners, and men realizing that women do not always find them attractive after meeting them? | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 1/18/2009 2:01:18 PM | | Folks this is the new millenium! And it's no wonder guys don't know where they stand anymore! Look at all the discussion just over a date never mind day to day living. Should or shouldn't I open the door for her? And if i do will I get a lecture on hiw she's capable of opening her own doors!! In the new modern age where a number of woman are making the same or more then the guy, on the first date, it should be a given that both chip in. Other words some ladies could be going out for dinner every day of the week and why shouldn't she if guys are stupid enough to do it!! Most guys especilly those in their 40's and up that are on this site are more then likely divorced with support payments up the ying yang! And if the woman is seriously interested in the guy and she has a GOOD HEART, is practical, sensibl and understanding, then there will be no debate when it comes to paying. So you see ladies it's not a question of the guy is cheap (in most cases), but more a practical approach to what can be be practical situation if dealt with in a practical way - unless she's a gold digger - you know the type - cold hearted b---h! | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 5/15/2009 5:46:02 PM | | You go girl! I totally agree with what you said. We, women, do not want free meals nor want to exchange "sex" for free meals, or gifts! We; however, want to be with gentlemen, who still think paying for a woman is a nice thing to do! I have many men, who I don't like, gladly want to pay for meals so they can go out and have a conversation with me, but I didn't take the offers. On the other hand, I could happily be wih a man who I love; even though he's not rich, nor taking me out much, nor buying anything for me, because he temporarily doesn't have a job or tight on money for some other reasons. I would willingly cook him dinners most of the times when we see each other, and then we go out dancing or walking at the beach, so we didn't have to spend too much money. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 5/15/2009 9:10:35 PM | So many men hate feminism but man oh man, when it comes to their money, they sure rah rah for the cause.
Hey, if dude is going to have a hissy over paying for the meal, I'll gladly pay for my own, which I usually do unless he insists which I think is generous of him.
I'll do anything to avoid him going on and on about how women are gold diggers or how his X wife this or that or whatever other ugly thing he can bring up about his money.
It's money for crying out loud. Relax...not like the bank ran out of the stuff. Some men on these forums act like they did something as incredible as buying her a brand new car!
So yeah, until I can learn whether he's a whining snivler about money, I generally pay my own way. I don't want to give him a reason to whine some more about it. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 5/15/2009 10:41:15 PM | Why do SOME but not all women expect you to pay for everything?
Same reason why some women expect that when they physically assault you that just because you're a guy you shouldn't beat the living hell out of them.
Same reason why some expect for you as a male to carry their groceries when it was THEY who brought all those said groceries in the first place.
Same reason why some women can sexually harass a man yet nobody cares but you do the same thing to them and you're in jail.
It's called a double standard. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 5/15/2009 10:42:29 PM |
Puh-leeze. Women do not think men should pay because they think they are special. Paying for a woman for the first few dates in the beginning of courtship makes you a gentleman.
No, it makes you jackass. You got money the same way I do. And if I DO pay for anything then I expect something in return. Oh, and it had better be more than a hug and a kiss. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 5/15/2009 11:16:12 PM | | to put it into historic perspective, p*ssy never used to be free. it was during the 70s that the free love concept came into being. since im not a hippy i dont believe in free love. but nowadays people dont want to work, not for anything, they expect it to just turn up all by itself. they just expect p*ssy on a platter. now then, fast forward, a few decades, and not only r we supposed to give p*ssy away, but were expected to give the p*ssy away to an ungrateful scumbag who expects us to buy his dinner too. sorry. so just f*ck off with that shit. there are electronics available for the cost of a few dollars. so if im going to spend money im not spending it on some guys dinner. buy your own dinner and beat off at home. the problem now is theres too many queer & bisecxual guys, so theyve taken a lot of the dating pool from women. those electronic gadgets can do it way better than some spoilt, lazy, self-entitled, lame, stoopid loser that cant even f*ck right. ill buy you dinner when u can find my g-spot. seriously. but dont EXPECT p*ssy AND expect us to COURT you AND buy YOUR dinner. so ya if you can hit that g-spot pretty damn good thats another story. but be honest with yourself. now if your just some ordinary lame loser whinning away then either wake up to reality, or, just turn queer and do us all a big f8cking favour. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 5/15/2009 11:32:32 PM | | Yes, because we all know men go out with women all the time expecting them to pay. Right, that what you're trying to suggest? Which happens MUCH more often? Oh, and, let me guess, it's men who marry millionaires and billionaires who are more than twice their age, on average, for the money? Hmmm... | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 5/16/2009 5:17:41 AM | | I am wide awake, I just try not to date male golddiggers. Since I do not know of any women personally who date male gold diggers, I am talking about my experiences. I am listening to what they say about women, and the "she took advantage of me and made me file bankruptcy" etc. lamentations and whines get really old really fast. | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 5/16/2009 8:57:26 AM | I think it is just wrong for the man to pay for everything. And, even worse for a woman who thinks that T & A entitle you to a free meal. When a man mooches off of a woman, the look at him as lazy or a womanizer or whatever....but it's cool for a woman?
What the hell is the man getting out of it? He can take anyone out for free (meal, club, movie, travel, etc.). If the woman wants to go for "free" all the time, she'd bette be trading Coochie Coupons!!
I've dated women that made half as much as me, and could not expect them to pay for things as much as me. Some actually felt kinda bad, and would insist on cooking more, and not just on days where I was going to spend a lot on the outing. When you find a woman who will turn down really expensive dates, to cook and do a lesser expensive date, you've found a very, very considerate woman!!! | |
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| women and why they think men should buy everything ????
Posted: 5/16/2009 11:09:01 AM | | well, theres are loads of male gold diggers so just shutup. im sick of hearing discriminatory lies that "women" are gold diggers when there are equal ratios of male golddiggers. & like i said, if you can f*ck good, sure ill buy u dinner! LOL! can ya? its all bullshit. another ugly, stoopid, lame, boring, premature ejaculator whinning away about why women should buy his dinner! ROTFLMAO!!! | |
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