| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/25/2006 6:22:50 AM |
lookin4the1forme : I just seemd like men do not think about how their actions effects their partner, wether it be intended or not. It seems they only have their feelings, wants and needs in mind, not the other persons and I would like to know what makes men think they are the only ones who can do what they want and expect a woman to just "go along" with it or accept it.
Over generalization. Women seem to be attracted to men who treat them like $hit, it probably seems more masculine to the women if men don't care. | |
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eshiem
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/25/2006 6:24:32 AM | No disrespect.....but living in the US and the way you write........I think there is plenty of room for improvement........
Also please do not generalize men in general.....I could tell you stories that are worse then men's attitudes. | |
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/25/2006 6:49:56 AM | Well, I have found MOST men DO respect me. I am respectable and don't expect less from anyone in this world. I GIVE respect also. It's is a 2-way street. Do YOU respect YOU. If not, you won't draw men who respect you either. (I'm asking, not pointing a finger. None of us can expect to be respected if we don't respect ourselves.)
If a man doesn't repect me, I move on. I'm VERY picky. I know long before I meet someone by talking on here and/or on the phone what sort of person they are making me think they are. If they are lying it will show in the meeting. Ask enough questions and you do one of two things-peak interest, or turn off someone. That helps. For the ones still interested, you move on. By the time you have that first date ending you know whether you want another one. And he usually does also. If he is honest and you are, you move on or away. Since I started getting to know someone more before hand, I havent met anyone who is disrepectful to me. Communication is a great thing!
Right after my divorce I didnt do these things well, but in time you learn what to do and not to do for what you want. I'm sure some guy will fake me out once more in time, ( I find MOST men real on here, some are just dogs lol) but it won't be too much time invested when I do find out. The signs are there and the signals are there.... we just all need to pay attention to them. (See what IS, not what you WANT to see) Learn from others mistakes on here that they talk about and everywhere.. take what you need and try it on when dating. We all learn as we go. Just try not to make the same mistakes over and over again.... then complain its the men .. or the women on here lol... Sometimes we are our own worse enemy!
I hope you find what it is you are looking for and are very happy in your future! Happy fishing!
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daisie
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Joined: 9/22/2004
Msg: 105 | |
| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/25/2006 7:15:34 AM | Lots of decent men out there!
If you keep dealing with the less desireable ones that's because you select them and keep them around. raise your standards a bit....
What makes the jerks act like jerks? Oh man oh man....you could write a book on that. But the thing that keeps it continuing is that there are some women who accept it. Sooooo why shouldn't they act like jerks? Hmmmmm???
If YOU don't like it then raise your standards and leave....don't cry about it. | |
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/25/2006 8:33:49 AM | Where does religion figure in this? This is like saying that Athiests can't be moral/good people because they don't believe in God (and no, I'm not an Athiest).
The point is, respect and/or disrepect, isn't gender related, period.
I think the lady who made the stereotypical comment is understandably in pain and resents her treatment and men in general.
On the upside, if she is persistent, she will find the right man. The odds alone dictate that she will find a man if she continues to look and be firm in her convictions.
PS- About the spelling; Who cares?
I sometimes make spelling mistakes. It isn't because I don't know how. It happens because I'm often in a hurry and because I'm trying to type fast, which is something I don't do well.
But, so what? As long as it isn't every other word and actually creates a problem in trying to decipher. The important thing is the message itself. | |
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/25/2006 11:49:22 AM | LOL, thanks armyguy 35... I appreciate the compliment. But this head on straight does twist sometimes. I only base my comments on what I have grown to know through the life and experiences I live. I'm a critical thinker but I have not always been so. I try to learn from comments on here, and I also try to teach others what I know. The greater our knowledge is and the more expansive it is the better. But one thing it does do, is isolate us from many people that aren't where we are, and it seems to make meeting the "right" one for me much more difficult because I do not think like most do today. It's like the Matrix, do you want the red pill or the blue? Sometime knowing so much can put you in a place where you wish sometimes you were still naive, lol.....
Happy fishing!
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/25/2006 11:58:21 AM | joerod, its not just women or men of your generation.. I'm 57 yrs old... Men my age tell me the same things...that women our age run to the dogs. Just that more learn as they grow older..so not as many. Men at my age can still be dogs lol.. and women my age still fall for the bad guy. Women at my age still can be self-centered ****es lol.. It's what you learn and apply as you age that matters. You seemed to learn from your mom and listened to her advice.. it will pay off, believe me, in finding a good woman. Just be you, so you can find someone who likes you for you. Your friend seems shallow and a user, and if he doesn't change, will be very lonely later in life going from woman to woman using them, as such men my age are because they STILL haven't figured it out. Some people, as the saying goes, never learn.
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/25/2006 5:32:36 PM | On the issue of women who always seem to end up with the jerks. They bring this on themselves for three reasons.
1/ When/ not if, the relationship breaks up they can take the moral high ground
2/ Women what what they can have. Two litttle girls fighting over the one playground swing when there are three identical swings available. Each one wants THAT swing because the oher one wants it.
The jerk is ever ready to walk out of the relationship. " ^&*() yours ya stupid bimbo. Ya not worth worrying about" and such drivel. And the ego slave move mountians to get this guy back, to prove to themselves that they are worth worrying about.
3/ Decent guys are not decent guys among women. They are pathetic whimps. | |
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/25/2006 5:51:26 PM | | Now, I will die until I am dead. These threads are so full of gross generalizations. It really does make my stomach churn. Makes me wonder why I even bother reading... | |
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/25/2006 5:59:01 PM |
Now, I will die until I am dead. These threads are so full of gross generalizations. It really does make my stomach churn. Makes me wonder why I even bother reading... - kloey
Because you're bored, and the world offers you insufficient outlet for your insight and ever-present wit? | |
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| Why Won't People Stop Making Horrible Generalizations?
Posted: 10/25/2006 6:12:26 PM | Because you're bored, and the world offers you insufficient outlet for your insight and ever-present wit?
*gasps* Y'all do realize that Molonel just spoke to me without being disrespectful and he's a dudefeller? I hear bells ringing and birds chirping...
In any event, here's a link to something that might help some of you out.
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts2911210.aspx | |
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/25/2006 6:46:52 PM | will be very lonely later in life going from woman to woman using them, as such men my age are because they STILL haven't figured it out.
Quantity != Quality.
I've actually had the reverse, I try to always treat women with respect, but eventually... well, I've been cheated on, had marriage *demanded* of me (which I might have actually done it, except that I discovered that my feelings didn't count), been dumped so she could go back to "a**hole" (her name, not mine), etc. I find it funny how, to this day, they all tell me (we talk occasionally) how "wonderful" I am. I even had one recently tell me (the one that demanded marriage) how she realized she's "never really let a man love her" (my reply, "no sh*t" - she was too busy trying to be in control).
What I do know, though, is if I'm happy with myself (and in general I am) and not looking for someone to fulfill some "expectations/needs" within myself, then I have the ability to truely love someone. Whether they accept that love is out of my control, I can only give it. The trick is to find someone who feels the same, who isn't looking for someone to "complete" them, but rather someone to "compliment" them.
When I read the subject of this thread, I wonder... respect goes *both* ways. I've met a lot of women who want to be treated with respect, and think that "oh, I give him sex" is enough for the man. I'll treat a woman with respect, but if she's always pushing my buttons, putting me down, blaming me for everything wrong, then I'm going to quickly lose respect for her. Yes, there are those people that will respect nobody, because they are too self-centered. But gross generalizations about everyone being like that, to me that says that any man that *does* approach the OP is probably getting disrespected from the start, which I don't think is healthy. I give people a certain amount of respect, not total trust, but not a lack of trust either, initially, and either they earn more respect, or they prove not worthy of it. To do anything less, I feel is setting yourself up to fail. | |
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/26/2006 7:28:35 AM | daisie you are absolutely right, if women didnt respond the way they do to jerks, then there wouldnt be so many, thats just common sense....and guys if a woman keeps saying i dont look for jerks, i just find em every single time...run far away from a woman like that. If you talk to these women who say that...and just keep tlaking to them, eventually somewhere during the conversation they will finally admit, "well yeah maybe i do go for only jerks."
And just remember, any wimp can be a jerk it takes no guts or effort. and the true alpha male is strong enough to respect women, and treat women theway hed expect his own daughter to be treated. he takes care of his family and works hard, the TRUE alpha male.
This is what exudes confidence and strength in a man. Do bad boys exude confidence? absolutely not!! They have to show off and put on a show, due to the fact if they didnt, theyd just be another guy. | |
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| Why can't men show respect for a women
Posted: 10/26/2006 3:17:26 PM | | I would like to apologize for saying "All" men disrespect women, that is not true. And yes I did not spell men correctly - spell check would have been nice if I would have used it. I did not mean to offend anyone on this. I just have met the wrong men. My experiences with the men I have met have been as I stated above, I have yet to meet one that thinks my opinion and feelings are as important as his, so this was my opinion. It was intended to cut down anyone, however, if the shoe fits, wear it. So, needless to say - to those i have offended, I am sorry, not all men are alike, but I would like to have prove me wrong. | |
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/26/2006 3:40:21 PM | | op is dating the wrong men. the one's i've met have all been excellent - now, some that i've read in the forums and some that send 'im's are not quite as nice.....(SOME). but for the most part, men are very sweet and respectful, and have terrific manners. | |
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/26/2006 11:18:27 PM | | lindy 333...has got it all right..i just posted the other one and then i read that that is awesome everyone needs advice... thats awesome awesome awesome! | |
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| Why can't people show respect for each other
Posted: 10/26/2006 11:24:50 PM | there.
doesn't that simplify things, just a bit?
mean people suck!
disturbed unevolved people lie!
why ask why?!
move on, forward, one foot in front of the other; recover, live and think postive!
methinks you just need a hug.
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/27/2006 12:30:08 AM | Post 39
"when I'm pulling bullshxxx and they are not standing up to me" So you delibertly are disprespectful? I don't understand, are you testing someone? | |
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/27/2006 6:42:20 AM | | Honestly, i dont think that its " Men " In general, i come to now think, its just certain people who act this way, i have seen , as i am sure we all have, from neighbors, that have no respect for us, to co workers that have no respect, to even sometimes family members, sad but can be true, i think respect, comes out in a lot of ways. Some people really dont have a clue what it is, maybe its their own upbringing that makes them this way, but i believe if they are doin this to you, its a pretty good chance, they are like this to most anyone...well, good luck.......... | |
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/27/2006 6:53:18 AM | This modern world has produced disrespect everywhere and the pendulum has swung fully in the war of the sexes
If your a single white hetrosexual male these days - your farked - consensus has it that YOU are to BLAME FOR ALL THE EVILS AND BAD THINGS IN THE WORLD, you are also the most discriminated against in the modern age - there are laws to protect all sorts of groupings of people except that what i mentioned
though we are not discriminated against to go and catch bullets in the chest to fight to protect someone elses ideal or way of life where we are not treated fairly - to allow the femnazis freedome of speech so that they can use it against us - we die to let them kick those that survive to the ground
Look through the posts and threads on POF - I have never seen so much degredation of men by women in my life anywhere
WE are told we are superferlous to women ( TO THE POINT WE ARE NO LONGER NEEDED FOR REPRODUCTION OF OUR SPECIES AS SCIENCE NOW CAN DO IT FROM CELLS OF TWO WOMEN )
They say they neither need or wants us
They have their own careers, money own houses they neither need us for any manual tasks, emotional support , companionship , protection etc etc - the courts will ass rape you financially to toe the femanazi line
Real Men wont take this shit sandwich being offered up to them
Disrespect us and we will bite back --- women will reap what they sow
unfortunately for many men the only other options are homosexuality and celibacy
NOW I FOR 1 will never turn gay -- its bad enough being rejected by women -- let alone being rejected by other men
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| Why can't ment show respect for a women
Posted: 10/27/2006 6:53:28 AM | We all earn respect in the way we present ourselves.
It is not only men that dont show respect for women, it is also the other way around.
Good God are there so many bitter women that have to men bash.
Women are just as bad so do not generalize.
If someone doesn't respect you walk away.
There are many more fish in the sea and good ones too! | |
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