| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/7/2008 12:20:26 AM | Yes, Irish Eyez...
I agree with you 100%!! 
It is called a "seat" for a reason.
You sit on the "seat" and not on the cold and hard porcelain and taking a risk of falling into the cold water here!!
Which reminds me...
If you are going to the bathroom in the middle of the night (half-asleep, of course)  then, falling into the cold water  will really wake you up when you do not even want to be woken up at that time of night!!  | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/7/2008 12:28:55 AM | Well, if a woman is living with a man and she is not all that sure on any given night if the toilet seat is going to be up or down; if she has to go in the middle of the night, she can always, but always, turn on the bathroom light or if turning on the bathroom light is not a choice here, only because, of the "brightness" of it all, people can always put a night light in the bathroom and the night light would be bright enough to tell if the toilet seat was up or down.
There you go, a simple enough solution. | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/7/2008 2:38:39 AM | | Ha ha ha ha ha So i'm not alone..... The toilet seat is probs the main reason I live on my own. There is no doubt in my mind that it should be down at all times and may I say men are more than welcome to use my toilet but god help them if they leave the seat up lol !!!!!! | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/7/2008 2:42:40 AM | So no one's going to confess to stumbling into a dark bathroom in the middle of the night and sitting down on a cold ... lid?
--Ms. Flis
Oh god yes i'll confess!!!!! Its caused me trauma lol... Its my worst nitemare my cold awakening... Thats why I have toilet seat issues hahahaha x | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/7/2008 3:08:23 AM | ^^^ Well, there's the cold awakening of finding you've started to pee all over the (closed) lid and it's dripping down to the floor, maybe your feet--or the cold awakening of plopping your butt into the bowl but at least getting the pee into the correct place. Which one of those is your worst nightmare?
--Ms. Flis | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/7/2008 4:58:37 AM |
(ya472) I had been living with the ex-common for over a year, and one day she was whining that I had left the toilet seat up. (of course it was after she fell in during the night)
NOW, I am not asking whether UP or DOWN is important !
But upon reflection (not looking in the bowl), I think it was a sign that the 'beginning of the end' was near... we were together for another two years, before the relationship finally collapsed. (the toilet seat was too sturdy to collapse under that ...-... )
I quite clearly still remember the argument, because I figured and TOLD her, that there is a SEAT and a LID, and if I have to lift and lower, SHE CAN TOO !
I think intolerance for each other started then, and it still is likely something I observe when dating.
Guess this is why I am still single ?
Mountain, meet molehill...
If there's nothing to complain about in a relationship, some people will shut their eyes, toss a dart at the board, open their eyes, and say, "Yeah, I'll nag about THAT!!!"
Arlo | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/7/2008 10:24:21 AM |
Mountain, meet molehill...
If there's nothing to complain about in a relationship, some people will shut their eyes, toss a dart at the board, open their eyes, and say, "Yeah, I'll nag about THAT!!!"
There's a whole lot of truth to that. Sure, consideration is appreciated and of course, given but sometimes everyone forgets to put the lid down (men) or up (women) but if an issue is made of this, then there is far more serious issues going on under the the surface (and I don't mean lid here).
Let's move on to toothpaste... cap on or off? Or the ever popular, toilet paper sheet out or sheet under? | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/8/2008 12:25:36 AM | for me, it was arguing about whether it was cold or hot in my first marriage. the marriage counselor told us to cut the desired temp midway, he was to take off his shirt and i was to wear a sweater. it worked for a few more years.
i wanted to totally punch my second ex, everytime i had to watch him brush his teeth at our sink which was right opposite the bed. that of course was an aftermath to many other real atrocities.
yes, it's a start. for certain things it's just a matter of undertanding and being willing to solve the problem. for starters , leave the light on so she does not fall in. i assume both of you do what you do unconsciously. the light gets you wake enough for both of you to think. probably she thought you were inconsiderate and maybe she thought that in other circumstances as well. if not and just this thing, so might have just been a cranky person who assumed she had the relationship under control.
again, if you care, you can talk things out, but not when you are angry or after just having fallen into the toilet bowl. these are roomate arguments and you need to communicate no matter who you are living with. | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/8/2008 6:06:36 AM |
HowEva... do you extend the same courtesy when you are in a man's home?
Why? Do you fall in the toilet if the seat is down? This isn't a tit for tat issue. The consequences of sitting into toilet water are horrible for women.
The reason this thread is getting so much play is because the refusal (or neglect) to put the toilet seat down in the presence of women represents something much bigger - inconsideration, lack of empathy and understanding, stubborness and prob a few others. (I need a second cup of coffee). | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/8/2008 6:21:20 AM | | Have you ever fallen in the toilet in the middle of the night and had your butt and privates soaked with cold, dirty water. NOT FUN! Of course, she was mad about that. It may have been the straw that broke the camel's back. She was mad about other things going on in the relationship and this was just fuel that was added to the fire. Put the seat down, please and thank you. | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/8/2008 7:27:20 AM |
Why? Do you fall in the toilet if the seat is down? This isn't a tit for tat issue. The consequences of sitting into toilet water are horrible for women.
No, silly wabbit. Do you have the courtesy to put the seat back UP when you are in a guy's home? If sitting in toilet water is so horrible, women ought to learn to check the seat before sitting. Smiple.
The reason this thread is getting so much play is because the refusal (or neglect) to put the toilet seat down in the presence of women represents something much bigger - inconsideration, lack of empathy and understanding, stubborness and prob a few others. (I need a second cup of coffee).
I agree, just as it's 'inconsideration, lack of empathy and understanding, stubborness and prob a few others' if YOU don't put the seat back UP if you are at a guy's home.
Smiple...
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/8/2008 7:42:54 AM |
Captino
Impasse. Shrugs shoulders. Let's just agree not to use eachother's bathrooms.
OkyDoky.... but I ALWAYS have the courtesy to put the seat down when I'm in a woman's home or in a space where there are mostly women.
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/8/2008 8:05:33 AM | In my opinion, it works both ways with the toilet seat. A relationship should always be 50/50, we should treat eachother as equals. So why then is it assumed that men are required to put the seat down because women need it down? Why is it not the other way around - that women are required to leave it up because men need it up? It is a ridiculous argument to me. If the man leaves it up, so what? I leave it down and he has to lift it. So why shouldn't I have to put it down after he has used it? It's the exact same thing to me. You want equality? There ya go. The woman's preference should not be the way things go - we are EQUALS. You can leave my toilet seat up anytime, my preferences are not superior to yours. I'll just put it down when I need to go - it's as simple as that.
Equality is important to me, in every way.
For an example of equality - sure I like it when a guy holds the door open for me when he gets there first, it's gentlemanly and I appreciate that. But if I get there first, I'm not above holding the door open for him. It's about respect. | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/8/2008 8:57:44 AM | Do I need to chime in on this topic?
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Why? Do you fall in the toilet if the seat is down? This isn't a tit for tat issue. The consequences of sitting into toilet water are horrible for women.
The reason this thread is getting so much play is because the refusal (or neglect) to put the toilet seat down in the presence of women represents something much bigger - inconsideration, lack of empathy and understanding, stubborness and prob a few others. (I need a second cup of coffee).
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Grant me manhood, and a long standing habit of putting the seat up so I don't get PeaPea all over it. And I understand women like it put back down. And I got in a whole helluva lot of arguments WITH THE EX WIFE, because I said "I'll put it up and you can put it back down"....
However, when I am head over heels in love, I put the seat up and down. And I think she did likewise.
Its a completely symbolic gesture of your relationship, completely I feel. | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/8/2008 11:39:33 AM | aha! it seems everyone is assuming bad intention on the part of the other. however, most people are just too groggy in the middle of the nite to remember.
then there is the issue of "butt size". some of us do not fall in the toilet water as deeply as others. so, my guess is now that the more considerate men, who also need to use the toilet for "#2", probaby have smaller butts and therefore also do not want to fall in as well!!!
or better still, fall in together-- a cheaper alternative to an hot tub. 
my G-d. if people do not get past this kind of thing, always assuming malcontent upon the other person, then this is how wars get started! and we expect our leaders to resolve international conflict while we are arguing about toilet seats.
ps of course, that assumes no underlying, more serious issues. | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/8/2008 12:06:10 PM |
In my opinion, it works both ways with the toilet seat. A relationship should always be 50/50, we should treat eachother as equals. So why then is it assumed that men are required to put the seat down because women need it down? Why is it not the other way around - that women are required to leave it up because men need it up? It is a ridiculous argument to me. If the man leaves it up, so what? I leave it down and he has to lift it. So why shouldn't I have to put it down after he has used it? It's the exact same thing to me. You want equality? There ya go. The woman's preference should not be the way things go - we are EQUALS. You can leave my toilet seat up anytime, my preferences are not superior to yours. I'll just put it down when I need to go - it's as simple as that.
cat woman31 is a smart woman. If every woman thought this way things would be a lot nicer around here. | |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 12:13:12 PM | I don't agree. There are times when a man will wish to use the seat as well. I think it is nasty to walk into a bathroom and find a big gaping hole in the corner - for anyone. As it is in use for more than 50% of the time, both sexes should put the seat down after the deed - that stops the dog drinking out of it and me losing my mascara into it when I lean over to look in the mirror.
Because my ex was very houseproud he used to insist that everyone sat anyway ... he would proudly announce it to any guests 'This is a sit-down household'. | |
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