| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/8/2008 4:04:34 PM | | To solve this problem for 30 days both man and woman after you finish put the seat down and also the lid down. You'll both get in the habit and when you go man lifts lid and seat, woman must lift lid. After 30 days it will be a habit and you'll do it every time. My wife died 3 years ago and I still lower both. | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/8/2008 9:14:58 PM | | Wow, this is the solution, and it's so simple! I love it, finally a reasonable compromise, all can agree on - jerry you are a genius!!! Now we can all sleep soundly and put this thread to rest as well!!! Brilliant!! LOL | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/8/2008 10:16:46 PM | What bothers me the most is seeing little yellow spots on the seat, who didn't raise the seat! If you come into the restroom and find the lid raised, you can just about bet the last guy to use it had the lid raised and the seat should be (yellow)spotless.  | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/9/2008 5:49:48 AM |
I dont know how anyone could possibly get mad with thier partner for something as little as leaving a toilet seat up! I might make a comment about it, but id be joking!
I suspect those that make issue of it have deeper rooted problems in that relationship. The seat up/down is just a "message" of inconsideration that must go far deeper in other aspects of their relationship, but this is just an educated guess, I'm not a "shrink", but I have seen and heard a lot over the years.
Personally I think the best solution is a night light near the toilet so then there will never be a nasty surprise; of course lifting and lowering is appreciated and an effort should always be made in appreciation of one's partner. | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/9/2008 1:05:50 PM | | Funny topic. My ex complained if I ever left the seat up, so I just started making sure of always putting it down, lid and all, then she complained about that; like I'm responsible for preparing the bowl for her use. In retrospect, that should have been a sure sign she expected me to take care of everything for her. I can understand women who have lived alone getting used to having it 'ready' for midnight toilet visits, but when you live with someone else, you have to stop taking some things for granted. For chrissake, just learn to work the freakin' lid and seat. After all, we have to; remember, we sit down sometimes to use it too. | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/9/2008 1:29:48 PM |
For chrissake, just learn to work the freakin' lid and seat. After all, we have to; remember, we sit down sometimes to use it too.
How about this, then: If you live in a country where majority rules, work it out mathematically. One woman who always sits, one man who sometimes sits, so more than 50% = leave the seat down. If you have more men than women in the household, leave it up...
It really does make more sense to just do whatever you need to do before you each use the toilet, or to always leave both seat and lid down so everyone has to lift something. Think of the muscles you'll build!
Can we tackle world peace now?
--Ms. Flis | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/9/2008 2:18:03 PM | I've given this a LOT of thought. Probably even more the 10 seconds.
I think the following is what I'm going to do if I'm ever stupid enough to live with another woman and she sees this as a worthwhile bone of contention:
Hook up a motion detector alarm system. THAT way if I happen to go piss before bed or piss during the night and the S.O. decides she's had too much herbal tea and needs to pee, as soon as she gets near the pisser, there'll be flashing stobe lights of various colours (probably soft pastel colours), a loud siren or funky dance club music, maybe a pop-up stop sign, a net that drops down to save her from falling into the toilet. There'll also be a large foamy ring that swings down that she can grab to pull herself out of the toilet if she takes the plunge despite all of my thoughtful innovations.
I think that oughta solve this stupid problem.
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/10/2008 12:17:55 PM | To MSG #149
As I have said before if all parties sat down it would solve the issue. In caveman days it was necessary for a man to stand to urinate so that he could watch for threatening animals and people and he and his family could be safe. Those days are long gone. We even have locks on the doors nowadays. Where is it written that men need to stand to urinate? I think people argue about a lot of things when there is problems within a relationship. It is a sign of the power struggle between couples.
I agree that sitting down and flushing with the top seat down is cleaner. There is nothing worse than having to clean up around the toilet after a fellow has urinated. No matter how careful and good his aim there is always drops of urine on and around the toilet. It is quite simply gross. So I agree with your x- husband. Perhaps boys should be taught to sit down on the toilet by their dad's. It could become the new symbol of manliness. | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/10/2008 12:33:04 PM | To MSG #149
As I have said before if all parties sat down it would solve the issue. In caveman days it was necessary for a man to stand to urinate so that he could watch for threatening animals and people and he and his family could be safe. Those days are long gone
Actually I read somewhere that it is unnatural for either man nor woman to actually sit for bodily functions and that squatting is more than sufficient, or even standing because that puts less unnecessary pressure upon the inner workings of our bodies.
"Toilet seats" are an invention, not a natural accomplishment and forces the body into an unnatural position to react. Also seated while eating is somewhat unnatural. | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/10/2008 12:54:27 PM |
As I have said before if all parties sat down it would solve the issue Where is it written that men need to stand to urinate?
No one ever said we 'have to' stand to urinate, any more than women 'have to' sit to urinate. We do what is most convenient. Men stand to urinate because we can. It's faster, more convenient; see: The lines to the bathrooms at the arenas, theaters and stadiums. I'm sure that women would take the more convenient option if available as well. You're just basically telling us that since you have to be inconvenienced, then despite it not being of any necessity, we have to as well, and that doesn't make any sense . | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/10/2008 1:21:06 PM |
I teach my boys that they can pee anywhere they want (provided it's relatively private)because the world is their toilet
Oh, Capitano, this is soooooo disturbing. Do you teach them they can poop anywhere they wish too?
--Ms. Flis | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/10/2008 1:21:07 PM | msg #164,
It is not convenience it is cleanliness. If we are going to use toilets then it is cleaner if everyone sits. Then there is not drops of urine all over the floor and on the toilet seat. I agree standing may be faster and more convenient for a man that is not the issue.
To msg # 165
If dad's taught little boys that it was manly to sit on the toilet rather than stand ie. redefined manliness in this area there would be no issue. Or perhaps boys should be taught how to clean the toilet and surrounding area after each time they urinate. The point of the original post was to wonder about when she complained about toilet seat was it a sign the relationship over. So I am not going to enter into a power struggle or a pi**ing contest with anyone about it. I am only stating an opinion. | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/10/2008 1:31:20 PM | I would guess that is why you are single.... I have heard that from two men before. I personally am embarrassed and think it is totally gross to see mens piss on the toilet when they miss. Who raised these men? My son is learning the right way to do it and I am proud of him. I know his wife will thank me!!! I believe you should put the seat down out of cleanliness (did I spell that right? LOL)...
Change your attitude dear sir and you will be amazed what is in store for you.
Marilyn | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/10/2008 1:42:08 PM |
If dad's taught little boys that it was manly to sit on the toilet rather than stand ie. redefined manliness in this area there would be no issue.
Well, it sounds to me like and the other women who want their boys to sit to piss are just control freaks. Gotta have it your way because female=good, male=bad.
I will continue to tell my sons that as long as they are discreet, they can piss anywhere they want and they can stand up to do it just because they can.
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/10/2008 1:54:16 PM |
If dad's taught little boys that it was manly to sit on the toilet rather than stand ie. redefined manliness in this area there would be no issue.
Oh jeez, I can't believe I am asking this question. umm, isn't there a problem anatomically with guys sitting to pee? Wouldn't it involve some reaching (possibly inside the toilet) and potential directional or contact issues?
I'm not sure I even WANT to know the answer to the question. As far as I'm concerned people may have their personal preferences along with their privacy in the comfort of the throne room.
My momma never told me I would grow up to question the way men pee. LOL
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/10/2008 2:00:22 PM | Well marilynlou.
Thanks for your " sage advice." Given that you know nothing about me your statement about my attitude is both judgmental, patronizing and b**c**. Oh by the way, what are you doing here and why are you still single? Actually I got the idea from a teacher of mine about 25 years ago when I was getting my degrees in psychology. He was an psychiatrist and thought that urinating standing up was archaic. I agree with him . Teach your boy whatever you want. What you teach your son is not my business as are your judgments about me. Keep them to yourself. May I point out again the tennent of the original post. | |
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| When she complained about the toilet seat, is it over ?.
Posted: 7/10/2008 2:13:42 PM |
But pee? Why not? When the bathroom is occupied in my house and someone has to go really bad, we go take a leak in the back yard. I have a very private back yard. Who cares? We're guys. We don't get all messed up about taking a piss on a tree.
Bit of a difference between peeing in your own back yard (although still, ick) and peeing "anywhere they want." Maybe I react so strongly to this because I work downtown, where there is a much higher proportion of homeless than in other parts of the city, and many outside places smell strongly of urine because so many people--both genders, though there tend to be more homeless men than women--pee wherever they want. That can't possibly be sanitary...
--Ms. Flis | |
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