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| To love, honor, and... OBEY?!? Posted: 2/24/2009 12:05:17 PM | | I dont see anything wrong with obeying your husband. W/we have had two ceremonies one... a legal marriage which the word obey was in and another different type of ceremony altogether that no one on pof would understand because they all have a pickle in thier asses about ppl who think outside the "sex box" | |
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| To love, honor, and... OBEY?!? Posted: 2/24/2009 12:08:49 PM |
With all due respect Cabby, I think you were an altar boy MANY years ago.
hope he wasn't one of the ones to lose their 'anal virginity' to an RC priest.. :( | |
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| To love, honor, and... OBEY?!? Posted: 2/24/2009 5:59:36 PM |
bakedbrie wrote: Any women who would have those words in her wedding ceremony deserves the a$$hole of a man she's getting. Just as bad is "I now pronounce you MAN and wife". No better than MAN and slave. You're never going to get a husband that way. | |
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| To love, honor, and... OBEY?!? Posted: 3/30/2009 7:03:12 PM | "Man and Woman become a devil to each other when they fail to separate their spiritual paths, for the nature of created beings is always the nature of differentiation" Jung
When a force is united with it's antithesis, they cancel each other out, chaotic re-distribution for both, unity, yes, but no real movement. Only imbalance of one polarity or the other produces movement, to the direction of the weaker force.
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| To love, honor, and... OBEY?!? Posted: 3/30/2009 7:49:16 PM | To me the wedding ceremony is a farce period. The vows are not worth the breath it takes to say them for either party. The sacredness of them is a laugh and a half when you consider how many marriages break up vows or no.
You find out just how much they mean when your wife is fooling around on you while you work round the clock shift and then wants a separation, kicks you out the house with a made up assault charge, has the boy friend move into your house, with your kids, takes half of your pay and everything you own, and you wind up living in the back of your car suicidal and bankrupt from legal fees trying to clear your name and dealing with the divorce.
Obey? give me a break. I am 53, know lots and lots of married people and I know of no couple that obeys each other much less the woman obeying the man. I have never obeyed or expected anyone to obey.
In spite of going through hell and back at the hands of my ex, I do plan to remarry(she is divorced as well). It will not be in front of a minister (again a joke) but a justice of the peace. What we say to each other on that day will not have the word obey in it. Just statement of our love and a hope for a happy future. That is all anyone can hope for these days. No wedding ceremony, no matter what it says is going to make a hill of beans difference when one party wants to move on.
Thank you for letting me vent. For those about to marry I wish you well and do not make any promises you are not going to keep.
For those who want to obey their spouse, man or woman there are some advantages. The one who in control takes on all of the responsibility for it, along with the the marriage and the household. The other party can just relax and go along for the ride if that's the kind of life they want to lead. For those that do not want to obey, stay the heck away from that kind of relationship. | |
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| To love, honor, and... OBEY?!? Posted: 4/1/2009 11:19:58 AM |
MavconArt wrote: You find out just how much they (wedding vows) mean when your wife is fooling around on you while you work round the clock shift and then wants a separation, kicks you out the house with a made up assault charge, has the boyfriend move into your house, with your kids, takes half of your pay and everything you own, and you wind up living in the back of your car suicidal and bankrupt from legal fees trying to clear your name and dealing with the divorce. Correct. One more reason why you, as the man, must be in control of the relationship from the get go. As soon as the woman thinks she has the upper hand, she'll stop feeling attraction, she'll lose respect for you and you'll get screwed up the patooty. | |
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