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| | Barack Obama The Audacity of HopePage 7 of 8 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8) | Cavalier1968
Yeah, im not saying gun control was the only factor that cost Gore. There was many reasons i didnt vote for Gore.
In the 80's Gore toted the NRA line and voted in favor of the NRA. Then he decided to pull a switch and go against them. Not sure what that was about, maybe he thought rednecks didnt vote, maybe the NRA quit shootin money his way??? Who knows, who cares. I dont like a person who cant stick to what he's for. Im guessing he voted that way cause the people who got him to the top took the 2nd amendment serious as a voting issue. In that case why vote against your people once they get you there? Couldnt even win his home state...what a joke.
Then the whole alienating Clinton. Wanting to distance himself from Bill, always kissing his wife, just to let us all know that she is the only one who sucks his little weeny. Bill got him there just like his home state did. And he cuts and runs thinking that he couldnt possibly lose to some jackoff preppy ex college cheerleader who never did go to nam or even show up to his guard duty. (which is kind of amazing that he did lose, or got robbed)
His debates all sucked as well, in my honest opinion.
And then you get Nader. Not a chance in hell of winning, though probably the best choice of the 3. I voted for him, i wanted Nader to get his 10% so he could get some of that money that the BIG boys on the hill get every 4 years. Nader wouldnt have gotten us in the Iraq mess. Nader would have been looking alot hard for alternate energy sources. Nader wouldnt be drilling in our national parks for oil. All around, he was the better canidate by far and if i had to do 2000 over again id still vote for him. | |
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Posted: 12/28/2006 10:59:48 AM | Unfortunately though Nader robbed a whole lot more votes from Gore than he did Bush. I agree that Gore totally mismanaged his campaign. I thought on substance he crushed Bush in the debates but came off like the smartest kid in the class and most people don't like the smartest kid in the class. Thought he underestimated Clinton's value too. You saw how the Dems fell all over themselves for his support the next time.
Nader had some good ideas domestically but he was no more qualified in foreign policy than GWB was....maybe less so. There's no telling what Nader might have done after 9-11. He was a niche candidate but totally unqualified. Hell even GWB had held political office. I agree we could use someone outside the Washington elite to lead us but I want someone who at least knows how Washington works. I doubt Nader, had he been elected, could've gotten anything done. Gore, while not my first choice, might've handled Iraq/Afghanistan differently....but he most certainly would've done evrything Nader would have in regards to the environment and alterative energy. As much as I would like to see a viable third party arise, all you did by voting for Nader was make sure Bush won. | |
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Posted: 12/28/2006 11:03:50 AM | all you did by voting for Nader was make sure Bush won.
I disagree. I lived in Seattle at the time, a definate blue state. Gore won my state and got the votes. He had more total votes than Bush anyway. The only state that Nader may have cost Gore in was Florida, maybe Ohio. | |
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Posted: 12/28/2006 11:04:08 AM | I respectfully disagree about Al Gore. He is a good man who may have changed his mind about the gun issue when the assault weapons issue came up. During the 80s assault weapons were not as big an issue as they were in the 90s. The gun issue landscape changed, and Sen. Gore changed with the times.
I also strongly respect Gore's efforts to deal with global warming.
I think Bush stole the election that time--they stopped the counting in Florida! Gore would have been one hell of a fine President, keeping the budget balanced, and being responsible about managing a war--keep in mind that Gore served honorably in Viet Nam even if he was a reporter. Gore is NOT a cut and run man because he DID serve honorably in Viet Nam!! Not like the cut and run chimp who went AWOL from the National Guard and should be rotting in Leavenworth Prison instead of stealing the White House from a good man. Some people I know, including a history professor, have told me that had Gore been president, the 9/11 terrorists would have been stopped. Bushboy fired Clinton's anti terrorism experts (some of whom served under Bushboy's father!) stripping them of being able to get the intel needed to put a stop to this cowardly attack!! Do not call Gore, an honorable Vietnam vet, a cut and run man
Any man who is able to tell it like it is on such issues as global warming has my respect!! | |
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Posted: 12/28/2006 11:20:38 AM |
I respectfully disagree about Al Gore. He is a good man who may have changed his mind about the gun issue when the assault weapons issue came up. During the 80s assault weapons were not as big an issue as they were in the 90s. The gun issue landscape changed, and Sen. Gore changed with the times.
Look, i dont want to go pulling out FBI statistics here to prove a point so just trust me on this one. Gore changed his mind on every gun control issue. Granted, that could have been because of the spike in gang related shootings, ill give you that one. So called "assault weapons" have never been a problem and if they were it was more so in the 80's than the 90's. I, for one, do put a little blame on the movie and music industry. Most people think thats stupid, but come on now, everyone wanted to be a cool O.G. with a mac 10 and an AK47. All guns considered "assault weapons" counted for a minor percent of gun deaths, id guess less than 5%. The only reason they became an issue was because the anti gun lobby thought they looked scary. They couldnt ban handguns so they thought they would take a win and try to ban rifles. Which, by the way, didnt happen. They banned a person from putting a bayonet on a rifle. (cause ya know them drive by bayonetings were getting real bad back then)
And you say assault weapons are designed to kill lots of people efficiantly. The beltway sniper used an assault weapon and only took one shot at a time. He could have killed just as many people using a single shot rifle. Point is, guns kill people. Unless you can get all guns banned and destroyed trying to ban one and not the other is a mute point. It would be more productive to go after the criminals who own, try to buy, commit crimes, and kill with guns than to try to ban a gun. Do you know if a person trys to buy a gun but fails to pass the NIBC because of a felony that we dont do anything about it? Dont look into it. Dont try to follow it up in any way. Just something to think about. | |
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Posted: 12/28/2006 3:23:05 PM |
"But sadly, most who vote against my views on gun control know very little about firearms themselves"
Quite an assumption on your part and rather arrogant I might add. Anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant.....i see what i'm dealing with now.
"As stated earler, I'd gladly vote for him if he did not jump to the extreme left on such issues."
What issues? In the earlier post it was only this issue.
"Just out of curiosity.....what exactly do you need a semi-automatic rifle for, ten?
Read my last post."
I did. So you're saying you need a semi-automatic rifle because you think the criminals will have them. You realize you're more likely to shoot yourself or someone close to you than you are an intruder? That old crap about "if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns" is nonsense. ALL guns start out legal....then some percentage find their way to the black market. Therefore if there are fewer legal guns, fewer guns will find their way to the black market.
OK, OK, OK...
When I said "such issues", I meant issues that I feel passionately about. Yes, it's that important of an issue to me; when I strongly disagree with the individual, I'm not going to vote for him/her. ...Unless of course, there is no one on the ballot that I feel is any better. In that rare case, indeed I would vote for someone with Obama's views on Gun Control.
As far as me being arrogant, well that's an opinion you can hold about me. When I said, "read my last post", I was pointing to the fact that I was not trying to turn this post into a full-blown gun control debate... Others have gone back and forth just fine without me. It's my personal opinion that there are MUCH better posts in this forum for gun control debates. Originally, I stated that I disagreed with his position, that's all. Next thing I know there's tons of posts here about gun control, and not his book. You called me arrogant and put words in my mouth stating on my behalf, "Anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant."
I never said Ignorant. I said that they know little about firearms. designingwoman stated, "Semi automatics aren't used for hunting." I would never lower myself to calling her ignorant, but she is indeed wrong. Semi-automatics are by far the most popular rife for hunting, she simply does not know this. Therefore it's safe to assume that she knows little about what type of firearms are used for hunting. This is very common in the gun control debate world, hence why I rarely debate it with people online.
And finally to your question regarding why I 'need' a semi-automatic rifle for. First of all, I don't own a semi-automatic rifle. If I 'needed' one, I'd have one. Do I think I have a right to own one if I choose? Yes I do. Am I going to write a research paper with statistics explaining my reasons for this? Sure, sometime soon I will jump into one of the Gun Control forums on this site and we can debate like crazy till one of us can't type anymore.
This was a post about Barack Obama's book, something I've never read. I made a quick comment about why I won't vote for him, and now I'm arrogant, I NEED a semi-automatic rifle, I think all the criminals have semi-automatic rifles, etc.
I'm sorry I disagree with who seems to be everyone's hero!
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Posted: 12/28/2006 3:47:31 PM |
designingwoman stated, "Semi automatics aren't used for hunting." I would never lower myself to calling her ignorant, but she is indeed wrong. Semi-automatics are by far the most popular rife for hunting, she simply does not know this. Therefore it's safe to assume that she knows little about what type of firearms are used for hunting. This is very common in the gun control debate world, hence why I rarely debate it with people online.
Most of my rifles are bolt or lever action... I dont have anything other than a semi auto shotgun, never have and never will. I myself love it when someone in an online forum claims that semi automatics arent used for hunting and debating them is also entertaining. Claim what they will, im still gonna be hunting with semi autos long after the Designing Woman magazine is long gone and forgoten about.  | |
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Posted: 12/28/2006 5:07:17 PM | I am not the most knowledgeable person when it comes to specific firearms and their brands, but I still insist that FULLY automatic weapons should be completely banned. If a SEMI-automatic is being used SOLELY for hunting, I don't care. It's the AK-47s I am concerned about, not someone's hunting rifle.
I think this whole discussion has gotten too far off topic. I would like to ask anyone who has read Senator Obama's book about their thoughts on the book. I haven't read it yet but would like to.
BACK TO THE TOPIC, folks!! If you want to discuss the gun control issue, would you please start another thread on the topic? I don't mind learning something from a debate on the subject (such as not being aware of semis being used solely for hunting), but it really belongs on another thread.
In fact, I have set up a new thread asking questions about the gun issue so that readers can chime in with their knowledge and/or thoughts on that subject. People debating the gun issue are welcome to go over there to talk about the subject. Thank you one and all.
Peace,
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Posted: 6/9/2007 9:57:51 PM | Wow is all i can say about this post, i am truly amazed to see people from different backgrounds and ethnic groups to really support Obama. Iam truly amazed, and like all of you i hope i live to see Obama become President of the US.
And to all the poeple who cant see the man running or thinks he is to young or inexperienced to be president. All i have to say is look at JFK, the man was to young and to in expreined as they say to be be president. There is run thing that they did not see and it cannot be judge on any scale. What iam talking about is his education and his youth. American needed JFK at that time and American needs Obama at this time.
In 7 years we have gone from being one of the most loved country in the world and became one of the most hated in the world. We need a man who has experienced the world and who is truly part of the whole world the good and the bad.
I belive with Obama being born of a African farther and American mother, will show all that is good about America. And we need that more than ever now. We also need a President who is not in anyway part of the Vietnam era. What i mean to say is we need to get away from that mentality that might makes right.
So i hope veryone will truly concider Obama in 08.
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Posted: 6/10/2007 7:12:04 AM | Blackprince.
I agree with you, Obama is what we need now. The extreme wings of both party's have gone out of control. Look at Hillary, Pelosi and reid. Just more of the same old crap from the old school. Look at McCain and Rudy, again...more of the same ol shit.
There is hope on the horizon for both party's...Obama and Fred Thompson should be the two men getting the nod. I have no problem with either of them. When I started this thread 9 months ago, Obama was the only viable solution in my opinion. Now Fred Thompson has got in the race(maybe). I am a Republican and always will be, but damn..I still like Obama. Hard decision for me to make. Thompson and Obama ...could be a good race. As for Hillary...if this country elects her sorry butt, I may move to Canada(until her term is over)! lol
I have no issue with a strong woman as president, just as long as it is not Hillary. We have had enough of the Clinton's, Kerry's, McCain's, Rudy's...all we will get is more of the same old bullshit. We have to get back to being a nation that other country's look up to...that means new blood in both parties and out with the old school, backroom corporate money politicians. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2007 11:25:50 PM | Fred Thompson? He is a CFR member just like Bush, Rudy and McCain, Hilary, Edwards and Obama and CFR members are usually in favor of the NAU/SPP agenda that Robert Pastor(do a google search on Robet Pastor and NAU for more info) has been talking about lately, so be careful what you wish for here. I remember how you said the idea of the formation of an NAU "scares the heck out of you". I personally will not vote for anyone who's a member of the CFR because of their globalist agendas and I've never yet seen a CFR member who was sincerely interested in solving the illegal immigration problem and had the voting record to back it up.
Take a look at the list below.
http://www.fdrs.org/cfr_membership_list.html
Then look here to see CFR members records on immigration matters.
http://www.betterimmigration.com/ | |
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Posted: 6/11/2007 9:52:40 PM | well too the two guys responded to my post i certainly agree with what you said about Obama but i do not know about Fred Thomas , or any of the organinations that he may or may not belong to. the problem as i see about fred thomas is that most people who like him, like strictly because of his Ronald Reagan qualities. As for me iam from California and i know certainly well what Ronald Reagan has done for the start of California and to be honest it was not very positive. One of the things i remember most about one of his policies was the way he dealt with the Black Panther party. I will give a short but brief history of his dealings with the party.
Well as we all know the 60s were a turbalant time for the country, it was a time of the flower child movement, that may or may not have given birth to hippie movement. Well during that time in the state as in most states at the time race relations were being discuss and it was not different then in California, as in most of the country Californias law enforcement was very brutal to the Black Americans, but unlike in most states California had a law on the books that a legal gun owner could carry a fire arm, as long as it was not loaded. Well most people in the state as in much of America did not feel safe with Black men carry weapons, even if it was for self protection. So they (political party )at the time repeled the law and set up most of the leadership of the Black Panther party, which without leadership and a male role model to positively channel all that negative energy gave rise to the crips and bloods.
Now iam not saying Fred Thomas will go that far in anything, but as a leader Fred Thomas does not have qualities that i personaly feel will make him a good President. Now if i had to choose a Republican it would Senator Hagel, a man who i feel had honestyl anylyzed teh Iraq situation and did what he thought best for the country.
As for Hillary i like her but in no way do i feel teh Dems should nominate her, Republicans would come out for sure against her and most Dems would hold their nose when they vote simply because its Hillary (God i wish we get Bill again), and she is a magnent for dissent and we don't need that.
I like Obama simply because he is what America needs now, not because iam a black man, simply put iam a American first and i love my country and i want my country back. I want politicians who will look out for Americans first not corporations not religouse nut jobs, not wacky left leaning, no defending ourselves Dems, but America and what is in our interest. Then i want a President who will call us as Americans do more for world then just consume. Enough already, i want my country back, i want to feel good about being a American. Iam tired of being embarrased by out grown up Texas cowboy. Give me back my country, and i feel Obama will do this and more.
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Posted: 6/12/2007 6:43:11 PM | Posted By: Thatguy67 on 6/11/2007 7 39 PM:
" Obama does have that "Bobby Kennedyesque" appeal to him. I hope he wins."
This is what worries me. Good men need good protection, something he can't afford yet, and this makes him very vulnerable should he start to look like a sure winner.. | |
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Posted: 6/12/2007 10:16:49 PM | I wrote this and i would ask that you copy it and send it to all the people you know, who vote and the ones who dont. Please site me as credit i do not want anyone using my words. Thank you.
Recently I have been thinking about the first two Democratic debates and the Republicans debates less people think that I’m a partisan American, and I have been following this post and I must say I’m impressed with the varied responses that I have read. In addition to this I have also been paying attention to the news media on a wide range of topics from topics of politics, the environment, national security, energy independence, immigration, health and religion, and something has occurred to me there has not been a serious dialogue with America since 9/11. It seems as if we have all lost all traces of our mind and objective nature and that can do attitude that Americans have always been known to have.
Sure in the past we have had our problems that almost came to the destruction of our country, from racism, civil rights movement, to the Vietnam War but through all this we have always maintained that sense of unity, that belief that we as Americans can accomplish anything.
I was not born or maybe not even thought of at the time when America was brutally drawn into WWII. At that time there was a thought that America should be an isolationist country and should not get into European wars. All except a few men who had the vision that America was and still is a beacon in a cruel and dark world.
Some how that heritage has been stripped and, stolen; the beacon has been doused, and has been .replaced by fear, and doubt. People we have entrusted with governing our country, upholding our constitution have used that very trust against us.
We are longer Americans, we are neatly divided into Blue States or Red States, we are either Democrats or Republicans we are no longer neighbors. We are either the moral majority, or the immoral minority. We either believe in pro life or pro choice. It seems as the words of Abraham Lincoln has been forgotten “I house Divided Cannot Stand”.
I say all this because if we do not take back that concept of “We the people”, it may very well read “We the Special Interest” or “We the Corporations”. We must get back to talking to one another, listening to one another and finding common solutions to common problems. Less we do nothing we would have squandered all those sacrifices. Our children’s future will be bleak they may never know the security that we now have.
What we need now are leaders like our parents, grandparents and all those that came before us. We need the likes of FDR with his courage, “The only thing we have to Fear is Fear itself “, we must find that sense of family like JFK purposed “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country” and possibly most of all we need leaders with a sense of vision like MLK “Who had a Dream” and dared us to uphold that basic truth “That all men are created equal”.
Until we choose them as the true holders of the government we will continue to get the fear mongers, or the I’m holier then you crowd. The ones who tell us it can’t be done. We must understand our future our hopes and our children’s future is in our hands. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2007 4:49:09 AM | "This is what worries me. Good men need good protection, something he can't afford yet, and this makes him very vulnerable should he start to look like a sure winner.."
Fortunately Obama was given Secret Service protection weeks ago........the earliest it had ever been given to a Presidential candidate.
blackprince,
Well said^^^^^^^^^No more politics of fear.......no more dividing us for political purpose.....let us stand together as Americans first and dispense with conservative v. liberal, black v. white v. asian v. hispanic, spirtual v. secular. It's time we thought less about the ways we are different and more about the ways we are the same. It's a dangerous, complicated world and it's getting smaller every day. Isolationism is the surest path to obsolescence and we must, as blackprince wrote, "remain a beacon in a cold, dark world". We cannot force our way of life or ideology on an unwilling recipient. We should remain an example of what a free society can be. Imposing our will militarily or economically is the best way to alienate ourselves from the world community. And despite our massive egos, we DO need to be part of this world community. We can lead or we can be left behind. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2007 4:51:01 PM | Posted by garry1949 "This is what worries me. Good men need good protection, something he can't afford yet, and this makes him very vulnerable should he start to look like a sure winner.."
What I meant was that I was making a comparison in terms of a young senator with a message that has a certain appeal to voters. In that way, to me, Obama has that quality.
I wasn't making comparisons about Obama and what happened to RFK.
With that said, unfortunately, Obama is probably already a target of those who don't want a black man in the Whitehouse. | |
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Posted: 6/15/2007 10:44:15 AM | Oh come on, the LAST thing Obama is, is honest. I heard him in several revealing interviews and when he was asked questions on the important issues, Healthcare,etc he wouldnt answer a single straight question. He was doing the typical politician thing-ducking and weaving a smokescreen and generally just avoiding. We dont know where he stands on anyhting.
Oh, except that, as a typical Democrat loser, he is a complete "kept creature" of the teachers unions and the radical feminist lobby. So, predictably, when the Supreme Court took the humane decision, supported by 70% of Americans to ban the most barbaric practice in the history of America (partial-birth murder) Obama the Fraud called it a "sad day for America". No, that would be if you are if ever elected, Obama. | |
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Posted: 6/15/2007 10:46:57 AM | | No no-one has a problem with a black man as President-as long as that man isnt Barack Obama. For ****s sake, stop playing the game of image politics, i dont care what colour, creed or gender someone is-i care about POLICY. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2007 2:31:17 PM | I also read the book and hope that he does get the nomination.
I just hope he can get the 18 to 30 year olds to vote. We need your votes and I think this is the man that can draw the younger people. I am 60 and my generation have made some bad decisions, but even with that most of my generation votes. Come on younger people make our world a better place vote and let your voice be heard. Whether you vote for Obama or someone else(please not Clinton, one was enough) or someone else, the United States needs to hear from all of us. PLEASE VOTE. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2007 9:47:13 PM | I almost let this one go but i just could not resist. this is for you Cheekyguy, and just so i dont get it wrong this is what you posted.
Oh come on, the LAST thing Obama is, is honest. I heard him in several revealing interviews and when he was asked questions on the important issues, Healthcare,etc he wouldnt answer a single straight question. He was doing the typical politician thing-ducking and weaving a smokescreen and generally just avoiding. We dont know where he stands on anyhting.
Oh, except that, as a typical Democrat loser, he is a complete "kept creature" of the teachers unions and the radical feminist lobby. So, predictably, when the Supreme Court took the humane decision, supported by 70% of Americans to ban the most barbaric practice in the history of America (partial-birth murder) Obama the Fraud called it a "sad day for America". No, that would be if you are if ever elected, Obama.
Now my response to you, Just like most people in this country and world, you only hear what you want to hear and if it does not reflect your point of view then it must be wrong and the person who said it must be a fraud.
Well just to let you know, Obama did reply to every question the moderator asked of him and the topic that you spoke of " partial birth abortion" he did reply to it. what he said and iam paraphrasing was. "Although i dont particular like abortions and partial birth abortions to be exact, it is a said day when women do not have choose of the reproduction health" he was not endorsing it he was saying that it is a slippery slope when you take one action based on extrems. Now to fair and honest ask yourself how many late term abortions are ever performed in this country. Maybe like 1 half a percent of all abortions performed are late terms. It sounds like to me that you are one of those people who only go with half of the story and make the facts or lack of facts to support your position. And further more you live in England and yall F@@#K just as bad as we did, When we elected Bush we were wrong but when your PM backed him he showed just how naive he was also. Just one saying for you " Those who never learn from History are Doomed to repeat it" i say this because England knew what it would enatail when ypur PM agreed to support that mis-guided policy. So i say to you get yourhouse in order before you come looking in our window.   | |
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Posted: 6/19/2007 7:28:14 PM | | Now Blackprince i agree with you about England do you thionk I am proud that Blair supports Bush? But you are completely wrong about partial-birth murder. You say it "only accounts for 1% of abortions". That is correct. But do you know how many FULLY-GROWN FULLY-DEVELOPED BABIES that is? Approximately 2'000 a year. So 2'000 innocent lives dont matter to you or Obama? Well that is disgraceful. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2007 7:33:11 PM | No i dont only go with half the story Blacprince, i know about Obama and he is a fraud because he wont state his position on any of the important issues. Where does he stand on the attack on liberty in Patriot Act 11? Where does he stand on a national healthcare system?Where does he stand on unconditional support of Israel's atrocities? I could run through an extensive list of the questions Obama avoids. Just like the worst fraud and crook in history Bill Clinton a man who got away with savaging the poor of America and comitting war crimes abroad from East Timor to Sudan and Turkey. all because the Democrats forgave him, due to his unflinching support for killing unborn children.
Oh and Clinton had a brain-damaged man put to death when he was State Governor . Some liberal he was.And unfortunately Obama doesnt look much better. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2007 7:39:01 PM | And Blackprince it is really quite ridiculous of you to tell me Obama replied "I don't like partial-birth abortions much" Oh please!! Thats about the most weak and pathetic denunication of something ive ever heard-next Obama will be saying"I dont like child-abuse much". Well, thanks for that Obama. Just to get things clear a baby, at partial-birth is a fully-developed human being so it is killing a defenceless human. So Obama can keep his pathetic attempt at criticism of it to to himself.
Why is he opposed to the Iraq war? 3'000 U.S soldiers died in Iraq. More than 4'000 babies have been killed at birth in that procedure over the last two-to three years. So obvioulsy he is not concerned for human life, so **** Obama and his fake concern for human beings, since he doesnt stand up for defenceless children. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2007 3:01:15 AM | First let me state this and so it will not go any further, yes iam for a women's right to choose, however iam not in favor of partial birth abortions, but then again it is not my place to choose how and when a woman decides she wants a baby or not. Now with that said, i really think you have like most people over blew this issue. There are certain cases when a woman decides she does not want to conceive a child and the factors can be varried, it may be that she was a victim of rape/ incest( as in a close family raped her), or maybe rape, she may have found out that this child would be born with very bad physical handicaps and then what kind of life would that child have.
Just so i can get this issue out of the way, he did say he was against it, but he also said there are certain instances where that form of abortion may favorable. I re-watch both democratic debates and he did state is position on this. So please check you facts. | |
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