| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/1/2009 8:34:25 AM | Boy, Svetlana Blue sure broke it down for you.
Anyhoo, your lack of better dates should not be blamed on any one ethnic group but on your techniques------ya haven't got any.
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/1/2009 11:51:14 AM | Frankly, I think just about any self respecting woman would dump a man who doesn't have his "'chicks' in a row". Her nationality is irrelavant. Consider for a moment that often Russian women come from a difficult past in their own country. They come to America hoping for a better quality life. They find a man, arrive in America, only to discover that he is in fact a loser. Of course she'll dump him. Hardly surprizing really. Man up guys. If you can't improve her quality of life, why should she keep you?
I give you 2 years and you will be back to tell us how you got ef'ed by your situation. LOL
I won't be ef'ed if I actually live up to the promise I've made. Actually, she has been living in the USA for seven years. If her goal were to marry for status, she would have done so years ago. She's a very attractive woman. There are many fools in the USA that she could have suckered by now. Instead, she choses to uproot herself from her 7 year home in the USA and come to Canada. | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/1/2009 12:07:10 PM | "Draft notice ... "???? You're going to have explain that humor to me, please. BTW, I have only known her for 1.5 years of those 7.
I agree , and the best way to get them into canada,
Is to tell them their country needs them.
Ok, I get the humour now. As far as I know those americans who tried to escape the military were sent back to the USA. Canada didn't have much sympathy for them. One question: what does this have to do with a Russian citizen? | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/1/2009 12:39:32 PM |
she has been living in the USA for seven years.
That is different if she is living in the USA already but if she is from the mother country still I would be wary.
Stats don't lie, we have mountains of disappointing stories from men in Australia who thought they found love this way only to be dumped about 2 years later. I know there are some genuine ones but their reputation are bad. Men got crazy over their beauty and they would mountains to have these women in their life but only a few are true. | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/1/2009 12:48:37 PM |
still I would be wary.
We'll soon find out. She will enter Canada on a student permit since she wants her masters degree anyhow. We'll marry only after she has been in Canada for a year. Canada immigration law is structured in such a way that she doesn't even need me or any other man to get status so long as she completes her degree and then finds a job relevant to her field. | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/2/2009 10:29:59 AM | A POST FROM A RUSSAIN WOMAN WITH A US CITIZENSHIP.....
First, many Russian women like to wear feminine close and guys like it. It is a cultural thing to leave a house looking "well done". E.g. Russian women may find unexeptable to go to a supermarket with no make up wearing XXL shirt. Obesity rate is much lower there, especially for women before menopuasal women.
Aka, it does captures guys attention. And some of them are good looking and do have a good financial position. American women won't miss such fish too, nor Brazilian, British and etc.
I knew only very very very who were marrying fo money. The rest got married men who either well -off or doing o.k. financially. However, their assets was never a motivation to marrige (with very small exceptions). Russain women are usually very family oriented (cultural thing) and they value household more than their carrers and man generally like it (those who also want LTR). | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/2/2009 11:04:28 AM | op,
i think these relationships can work for a while, but sooner or later, the russian chick is going to become 'spoiled' much like her american counterpart...then all of a sudden, she's not so grateful! actually, i'm quite serious. a lot of the foreign women have had a tough time and are grateful...but they quickly become used to their new lifestyles... and on it goes! | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 5:49:58 PM | I would stay clear of all mail order brides....Russians are notorious for scamming people. There are websites on the web dedicated to alerting to men to repeat offenders(scam artist).
That being known......why even take the chance of being duped????
You are correct, they usually do use the first husband to get into the husbands country of origin. They do the same thing in Western European country. This is not a USA thing.
I used to live in Central Europe. Men their complain about this too there.
You know, if a woman has to be desperate to get out of her country to even become a mail order bride. That is a huge red flag.
Other ethnicities and mail order brides scam gullible men everyday.
I would wait and meet someone with a US citizenship who is INDEPENDENT.
I have met nice russian girls in western europe too.
THE REALITY:
Bad seeds exist in every ethnic group
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Posted: 11/4/2009 5:59:29 PM | i think these relationships can work for a while, but sooner or later, the russian chick is going to become 'spoiled' much like her american counterpart...then all of a sudden, she's not so grateful! actually, i'm quite serious. a lot of the foreign women have had a tough time and are grateful...but they quickly become used to their new lifestyles... and on it goes! Then move to Saudia Arabia then you can treat her like a farm animal! I am very old fashioned but will not tolerate men who berate women. Oh we can vote and speak our minds now a days so "we" are spoiled. You can kiss my white American A$$ while you are picking up your mail order bride lol. A REAL MAN CAN HAVE AND MAINTAIN THE RESPECT OF HIS WOMAN IN THE WESTERN WORLD. Some men have it and some don't it's called mojo  | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/4/2009 6:02:05 PM | | Don't you know gold diggers everywhere? There are also some American men who are gold diggers. These Russian women may be or may not be gold diggers. You dated them, then complaining about them. You are sure trash... | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/4/2009 6:04:59 PM | | This is a chance you take when you marry someone who is not American (this is assuming you live in America) , but it by no means all people from other countries will take advantage of you, you just have to be careful. | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/4/2009 6:06:48 PM | Lmao.. holy russian bashers...
Who cares if they want things, as if American women don't....bah!
At least russian women pay for it.... and they're god dayuum sexy....  | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 6:16:19 PM | | msg #65, ...I believe most Russian women(or women from desperate or poverty stricken provinces) genuinely wants to start a new life in countries like USA, Canada, Australia, ...but to use love to manipulate men of the country of their choice of destination is what does me na na na. I do believe that there are agents behind some of these scams too. | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/4/2009 6:26:40 PM | Love is the greatest emotion of all. Lonely hearts are the easiest to scam, people have their guard down. Most people over 30 have experienced enough in life to guard their feelings. No one ever thinks they are going to be scammed until it is too late.
Watch your wallets gullible men.... There is a sucker born everyday.
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/4/2009 6:41:59 PM | Russian women with US citizenship
My advice is PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
I have had several relationships with Russian women who used their 1st husbands for citizenship
Uh... yeah...
Several relationships eh?
So you did this with multiple women who you KNEW had gotten involved with US men to gain their citizenship and it didnt work out for them and you either and now you're giving out the "warning"???
Choose a woman cos of what you 'want' and not because you love her and she loves you... what exactly do you think will happen?
they can appear to be very passionate and loving, but it's not sincere.
No sh*t?
Look.. NOT every freakin woman from another country thinks that the good old U. S. of A is some kind of life altering, career making decision.
Frankly... compared to Australia... you're a joke... you aint got NOTHING on us.
It'd be taken a step down for me.
Think you'd be prepared to do that for someone you loved? Move to Russia?
I doubt it... you dont love her... anymore than she loves you.
I would. Id even consider USA. *shudders*
So outside of 3rd world countries and women who prostitute themselves to get outta a life that means they cant afford their rent and decent food in their mouth...
... pull your head in.
Your quality of life doesnt even come close.
Guess Ima gonna have to keep a close eye on those Yank men. | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/4/2009 6:50:45 PM | It always takes two in relationship and there's supply when there's demand.
This guy wanted something from them. That brought him to the situation he felt manipulated.
I wonder why this guy even had 'SEVERAL' relationships with Russian women because he was having hard time to find american girls who were as pretty, passionate and loving as rusian girls and were willing to date him because he doesn't have anything else to offer except for his citizenship? | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/4/2009 7:10:11 PM |
a lot of the foreign women .... quickly become used to their new lifestyles...
What is your American new lifestyle? A turkey neck with quite a few chins and a big belly? So many Americans are in debt, but they still think they are the best, which is quite laughable. | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/4/2009 7:21:45 PM | | I dated two Russian women who I could beat at thumbwrestling. Therefore, I can beat all Russian women at thumbwrestling. | |
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Posted: 11/5/2009 1:23:50 PM | Apparently for every gullible man fooled by a Russian woman, there is a fool on plentyoffish making a dumb generalization.
There is something that younger Russian women have that so many American women don't. Most are actually healthy and in good shape. Most actually want a family. Most Russian women value their family ahead of their own selfish needs. The American women who don't like to read this, are JEALOUS! The men who fail with these Russian woman do so because they are screwed up. They are discovered to be false - not real men. Their values prove to be inconsistent with what these woman actually want. I have no sympathy for American men who choose a gorgeous Russian woman who is so completely out of his league. Of course she is going to dump him the moment she has permanent status. This is a no brainer.
I too am healthy and in good shape. I too want a family. I too value family ahead of my own selfish needs. These are values that I want to teach my children. I want to select a woman that can help me to achieve that goal.
Who was it that commented about "mojo" earlier? Yuck! You mean he is willing to kiss you a$$ and buy you lots of things..... on his credit card. What's the american expression? "Bling Bling .... ". Currently, I only hear "snip snip", as more and more Americans have their credit cards cut.
Did you read the profile of the one Russian american who responded on this thread? A quick read of her profile demonstrates that she has more character and a better quality character, than so many other women on POF.
I am sorry Americans, but there is a growing Rot in your culture. You need to buckle down and make some changes before the whole glass house shatters around your ears. Canadians, we are only slightly better then are American brethren. 'Ishmael ' stop chasing the metaphorical whale!!! | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/5/2009 2:50:53 PM | Well thank you for the advise. And for lumping Russian women with US sitizenship in one category.
It may appear that she used him for sitizenship. But heck, he got her for at least 4 (or is it 6 now?) years. I'm sure he used her for something too. If she was totally useless he's kick her out, wouldn't he?
In the restaurants, russian women usually expect the guy to foot the bill. But at home, they usually cook. They treat their boyfriends to home cooked meals.
They don't look you in the eye when talking with you.
Ever heard of cultural differences? In some cultures it is considered rude. As in you are challenging the person or trying to penetrate his soul without his permission. But when I first saw an American I couldn't fugure out why was he was smiling the whole time. I couldn't figure out if it's a tick, or he's fooling me, or something is really funny about my hair. Looks very insincere until you get used to it and learn to do the same. | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/5/2009 3:10:06 PM | My experiences have been that they are very manipulative and for all practical purposes just gold-digging. They don't look you in the eye when talking with you. They will always expect the guy to foot the bill..
The Communist Gulags killed off about 50 million of the most creative, emotional and revolutionary minded Russians. I like American women because some of them still have the creative, free thinking and revolutionary blood of the founding of the USA. That's the main difference I have noticed in dating women who survived Communism and some American women.
When a person simply doesn't have revolutionary genetics, the courage and creativity, then they can be rather focused on commercialism.
Often there is a much larger dynamic of why people who they are. Understanding that at the cultural, historic and genetic level is fundamental. | |
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/5/2009 3:14:07 PM |
In the restaurants, russian women usually expect the guy to foot the bill. But at home, they usually cook. They treat their boyfriends to home cooked meals.
That's right, guys. Now stand shoulder to shoulder with her and help her to clean up the dishes, or better yet, let her relax and do it yourself. And guess what? She'll crawl into bed with you and make made passionate love to you.
That's the main difference I have noticed in dating women who survived Communism and some American women.
This poster is right, in a way. I've discussed this frequently with my g/f. The 50+ Russian is often quite submissive. This isn't however true of the younger generation. They are extremely stubborn and assertive. This is also why so many walk away from their American husbands. Often their husbands can't handle this assertiveness once they arrive in North America. So many husbands expect a submissive wife and are surprised to discover that she is anything but submissive.
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| Russian women with US citizenship
Posted: 11/5/2009 3:24:45 PM | I can understand why a man would want a Russian woman, but why would a Russian woman want a North American man? (yes, Canadians, this includes you)
And yes, this is rhetorical since you're no better than the American women you complain about
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