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| What is Wrong with Nudity?
Posted: 1/15/2007 5:42:25 AM | | I dont believe there is anything wrong with nudity. Obviously climate plays an important factor in how we dress but social environment dictates what is right/wrong and most people wont go against the norm. Personally I do not feel comfortable in the presence of others naked but I have no problem when alone - the reason being with me they just want to get far too close for comfort. I would not be happy in a nudist colony either as there as some people who really do need to cover up. Lets face it, given the choice we only really want to see attractive bodies naked. | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:49:18 AM | Hb2brunette you seem to have taken nudism all the way to the level of high school mentality by implying that it's all about what you look like that matters surmising your statement with.
"there as some people who really do need to cover up. Lets face it, given the choice we only really want to see attractive bodies naked."
Wouldn't I be at high school level if I said, in response: "Yeah, Hb2brunette some people are so naturally ugly that they really should just stay home till they can afford to get a make over and some designer cloths, like us.
Don't you really think that the same argument could be made for people who have what you consider to be terrible taste in clothing? I've seen some really distasteful clothes in this world haven't you? What should we do with these people? Shun them, perhaps but do we really need laws to throw them in jail for what they do with their three feet of personal space? | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:41:13 AM | Perhaps you are taking a hostile stance to a statement of fact. Yes, clothing can be utterly terrible, but in the Western world, clothing is accepted as a form of expression, and despite its occasional oddities, it fulfills a function as well as enabling expression. Nudity, in Western society, WOULD be all about attractive people: if a hot chick flashes some bewbs on TV, she gets fined. An ugly fat white dude goes streaking, he goes to jail.
That wasn't a statement of opinion, it wasn't "I think all ugly people should never be nekkid", it was a statement of fact: we only want to see attractive people. As much as you seem to rail against it, you do it, too. Quit trying to be hyppocritical. | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 12:38:33 PM |
There are times – when certain naked truth must remain covered up. It helps maintain a healthy society.
Very true, but extremely rare. It is most often done to promote harmony in relationships.
"No, Dear; you do not look fat in that dress." | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 2:36:47 PM | | Human beings lie. All the time. About everything. On average, every person here is lied to to their face about 120 times a day... it's human nature. Clothing is a silent form of lying, I suppose. Though, personally, proper use of clothing can be far superior to being nekkid. | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 3:00:27 PM | People don't lie to me 120 times a day. If they lie once, and I catch them at it, they are banished from my community. They are not human. They are scoundrels, and I don't associate with scoundrels. Of course, I do watch the commercials and laugh. But I doubt that I see 120 of them a day. I have dissassociated myself from many people, and I don't watch a lot of TV.
My first response was directed at someone who felt the need for the betterment of society by covering up a truth. Not for the defense of scoundrels. I have met many, and I often meet those who assume as you, that I am a liar, because everyone is. It's not so. I am a liar because I know when it is a better idea to promote harmony, and I have probably only lied about 5 times in the last two years. I have been wrong about some things, but that isn't lying. To lie requires an intent to deceive.
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| What is Wrong with Nudity?
Posted: 1/15/2007 3:37:43 PM | you have picked a muslim's comment and that is quite interesting. Praying needs focus for one thing and you are not yourself apathetic to the sight of a naked man - definitly would deconcentrate you if you did. Your feelings are identical as those of men and even stronger I will say.
I said, “you know, if a woman truly wishes to cover up I say “you go girl!”. The fact that you choose to ignore this is highly indicative of how little respect you have for women in general.
I did not indicate what religion the quoted was. Fact is, the person quoted doesn’t indicate what religion he is referencing in his post. I’ll remind you that Catholics, also, had demanded that women cover their heads in church. You choose to find fault where there is none. My comments were not directed at any religion, rather at a systematic and ancient method of subjugating women… regardless of the religion.
I can be quite apathetic to the sight of naked men. I admire and enjoy the human form both spiritually and artistically. How you choose to pervert my words is just too darn easy to point out.
walking around naked around the apartment, tell me, what is the state of your white sofa that you sit on naked, is. I would not take it for free even if its value was a million bucks.
First of all, I own my own home, I don’t live in an apartment. I don’t own a white sofa, I have toyed with the idea of getting one though. If I did own a white sofa I wouldn’t give it to you, especially if it were worth a million bucks, because you are ungrateful and imagine things that are weird.
what people are asking for is respect, you are not capabale of doing that, for you, you must impose your doctrine of nudity to those that respect themselves.
I have a doctrine of nudity? Me, the one who doesn’t care to see some people in bathing suits?
I don’t think you respect yourself. If you did, you would respect others, including women. Not just some women, all women. I did not make the post up that subjugates women. I feel that post and it’s “doctrine”, that I quoted, was disrespectful to women. The author, and now you, feel that you are quite righteous in blaming women for your weaknesses.
If you cannot pray without blaming the hot naked images that enter your head onto a third party, then you may as well give up praying for a while. As praying is an act of self-enlightenment and growth. I see no growth in someone who blames others for what goes on in their heads and groins. That’s just my “womanly” opinion though.
I am proud of my human senses, they are beautiful and I like to keep private and dear to me, for myself and my mate.
And there is nothing wrong with that… as long as it is a mutual decision made ‘with’ your mate, not ‘for’ your mate.
we're talking nudity and you're talking about a free choice a woman makes. I am talking about muslim women. Their desire to cover is to please god and it is their free will to obey god and their right to choose. In what do they actually bother you? Do they offend you?
Are you too afraid to read my words? Here, I’ll repeat them, “you know, if a woman truly wishes to cover up I say “you go girl!”.
So, be very clear about this… I have no problem with women covering or not covering. I have serious concerns when men blame women for the fact that men are incapable of praying because of women.
hair is the crown of a person. It makes a woman attractive, viewed and treated as a sex object by certain type of men, women need more protection than a man. We respect and honor women far more than you are respected.
I know for a fact, that rape and murder of women and children occurs by members of the Muslim faith as much as any other religion. Don’t hand me any crap.
why do hindus dress the way they do, why do the sikh (men and women) cover their hair at all times, why do monks cover the way they do, why why why, why do women cover in islam, read about islam and you will find the answers that will make you cry.
Well, you’re making me cry. Tears of empathy for the women in your circle. Women who choose to cover should do so out of their own choice… not because some man can’t keep his thoughts where they should be when he prays.
why dont men cover? Men have no need to make up, pluck eyebrows and pots of paint on their face. Men are confident - they are the ones fishing.
I learned how to apply kohl eyeliner by a Muslim woman. Are you telling me that she is not confident? You don’t even know her. In your world, are all women void of the ability to be confident and therefore must cover up?
I think every woman on pof should remember your profile. You have disrespect for women on this list, as only men “fish”, as you put it. Women on this site are “fishing”.
why do nuns cover???? Because they follow the way of female descency that existed for centuries until a few decades ago. A descent woman will always be respected but one that love to expose herself will only be treated as a piece of meat because that is the exact thought a man will have "she wants it" he'll say.
Oh so… you’re just here looking for women who “want it”, right? Because, you believe that only men are allowed to “fish” and be respected. Therefore, you’re telling me that if a woman is on Plenty of Fish, she must be “fishing” and therefore…a piece of meat (I haven’t seen photos of covered women here. Regardless, they’d be “fishing” if they were on here and therefore, not worthy of your respect.)
As well, you’re trying to tell me that rape and murder of women never occurred in the history of humanity until only recently… when your imaginary world took the coverings off of evil women’s heads? And, that “covered” women never get raped? Are you saying that a man can blame a woman for the rape she receives? “she wants it”? Oh… puleeezzzz!
One hint about online message boards and forums… by its very existence, you can bet that the people who are online have knowledge of reading and writing, to some extent. Perhaps you might want to make sure you aren’t blowing ka-ka out your fingers when you’re typing because most of us are quite capable of checking out information which will tell you that covered women are no safer than uncovered women.
I am not sure why I am on this thread at all because descency and respect don't seem to fit some people's agenda in life. I have far more serious dealings in my life and there are far more important issues we're faced with in this world.
Yes, the subjugation of women is a huge world issue. Take responsibility for what goes on in your head and between your legs.
Nudists are perverts in disguise.
Given that you seem to support the other poster ... and therefore, cannot take responsibility for your own mind and body when you pray is in a place to be making judgements regarding the perversions of others. Perhaps you might wish to clean up your own back yard first.
Honestly, I think you are probably trying your hardest to be a good person. And, it must be difficult when the world is populated by so many different people and you don’t feel it is proper to think outside the box. Many wise words here on pof are from Muslim people too. And, I am glad that I have the opportunity to read those words. However, when it comes to the subjugation of women, silence is not helpful. My comments weren’t about any religion… they were about being respectful to women… all women… and about taking responsibility for our selves. Especially, not passing the buck, blaming or making excuses for violence toward anyone. Nobody “asks for it”.
The subject on this thread is about nudity. I find it interesting how some have taken the leap from a simple commentary on nudity - to nudity everywhere, anytime – to holding women responsible for evil - to the extreme of… imaginary goings on in an apartment that I do not live in, on furniture I do not possess. Gotta love this place!
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter."
~ Martin Luther King
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| What is Wrong with Nudity?
Posted: 1/15/2007 9:11:18 PM | | Most people like to be a bit diplomatic in the things they say. If Nudity was a dialogue, Nudity is .. rather blunt. Blunt might be misconscrewed (hehehehe) as rude. | |
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Posted: 1/16/2007 12:57:12 AM | Tim4925
I don't think our bodies are made to handle the natural environment in the nude, or maybe I just don't like the idea of my vaginal area being exposed to the sun. Otherwise people that live in cold weather need clothing for warmth and protection. | |
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Posted: 1/16/2007 1:22:39 AM | Message 83 above:
wooow some people bite! lol - Did I hit sensitive spots? The art of communication is not easy and I do not understand the reactive hostile behavior. you must keep cool and discuss things, we are all entitled to different opinions. Discussing intelligently is more my style than scratching and pullinhair. 
You distorted my quotes: that's pretty dishonest. I write God with a capital G God and you lowered the case (disrespecting my conviction in my belief in GOD adn anyone would know that)... you went on with a series of "why why why" in some other quotes that I never wrote, you have conveniently changed the context of what I have been saying. There is no need to be hostile but again it is your nature.
To start with, I grew up with lots of sisters and there's lots of females in my family, perhaps I should ask them to reply to your cat fight you're trying to lure me into. <img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0>
Anyway, I said praying with a naked woman in front of me (physically) is total disrespect.
I said that you are not apathetic towards a man's nude body: Tell me why playgirl and other hardcore magazines are still in business ... who buys them and why (for the articles only? yeah right!)
There are by far more crimes commited against women and children in the west than there are in Muslim countries (penalty are very harsh over there and you'll evaluate the consequances before you even think of commiting a crime) - dont look at your local paper for those news - they are usually owned by biased people anyway, try the UN - you'll get a better unbiased view of the reality of crime rates. Yes, morals based religions do impact levels and types of crimes - talk to a respected sociologist and you'll get more input.
I am quite respectful of anyone that respects me and that includes men and women, and all children. That includes my sisters, my daughter, my step daughter, and my future wife. (Mum no longer with us) but also all my nieces and nephews - May be you need to ask them how they are treated. Better than mediatized. It is ordered by God to respect women in Islam as well as children, parents and the elderly. You can read it, texts are available..of course, conveniently not mediatized as well. So please do not demonise my beliefs.
That you want women to keep an eye on me, I am quite honored, as a matter of fact,. The intelligent ones with good hearts will quickly detect who I am.
In terms of fishing, you will realize that many women expect to be fished and they'd rather be contacted than contact men, that's the majority of women but not all. I have been contacted in my life, yes but not by many, but by some people who can relate to me - they do not have a heart of stone nor are they men haters and most of all they respect themselves. I have not contacted anyone yet, true also because I am in no hurry. Am I courted in my life, yes. Am I hard to date, yes. Because I need to know if I'll be having to put up with cat fights which I refuse to participate in..sorry, try someone else.
Perhaps the difference betwen you and I is that, in my beliefs, all my deeds and all my thoughts are recorded. God is listening and watching...even my thoughts my dear - and I'll block out any interfering thought that comes through even if it is something like "what should I cook for dinner"). A tarantula walking in front of me can be a distraction as well as any sensitive physicality in from of me.
May be you love to go around naked, just dont come in front of me standing naked when I pray. I might throw up from the ugly view that presents itself in front of me.
Nudists are perverts in disguise. I am entitled to my opinion, am I not?
Keep cool and think about it. Life is short, we're all getting old and all will be done with soon..very very soon....so leave this world in grace and with no regrets. It's never late. Show love and kindness today for tomorrow's chance may be lost.
In everyone of us, there is a big heart - some choose to expose it and some see it as a weakness and protect it by roughing the environment because they think everyone is out there to get them...and some, just dont show it as a simple protection for not being vulnerable but they are not mean people.
Nudists are perverts in disguise.
Original post I wrote: (in message 68)
You have picked a Muslim's comment and that is quite interesting. Praying needs focus for one thing and you are not yourself apathetic to the sight of a naked man - definitly would deconcentrate you if you did. Your feelings are identical as those of men and even stronger I will say.
Walking around naked around the apartment, tell me, what is the state of your white sofa that you sit on naked, is. I would not take it for free even if its value was a million bucks.
What people are asking for is respect, you are not capabale of doing that, For you, you must impose your doctrine of nudity to those that respect themselves.
I am proud of my human senses, they are beautiful and I like to keep private and dear to me, for myself and my mate.
We're talking nudity and you're talking about a free choice a woman makes. I am talking about muslim women. Their desire to cover is to please God and it is their free will to obey God and their right to choose. In what do they actually bother you? Do they offend you?
Hair is the crown of a person. It makes a woman attractive, viewed and treated as a sex object by certain type of men, women need more protection than a man. We respect and honor women far more than you are respected. Why do Hindus dress the way they do, why do the sikh (men and women) cover their hair at all times, why do monks cover the way they do, why why why, why do women cover in Islam, read about Islam and you will find the answers that will make you cry.
Why dont men cover? Men have no need to make up, pluck eyebrows and pots of paint on their face. Men are confident - they are the ones fishing.
Why do nuns cover???? Because they follow the way of female descency that existed for centuries until a few decades ago. A descent woman will always be respected but one that love to expose herself will only be treated as a piece of meat because that is the exact thought a man will have "She wants it" he'll say.
I am not sure why I am on this thread at all because descency and respect don't seem to fit some people's agenda in life. I have far more serious dealings in my life and there are far more important issues we're faced with in this world.
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Posted: 1/16/2007 3:46:01 AM | I play a lot of violent video games. I often see parents complaining about language and nudity in certain games. Although nudity isn't a factor in mmorpgs (online games) cussing from players is. Anytime I hear/see a parent biching about another player's language I always mock them by saying, "Yeah! Watch your mouth! I don't want to read certain words while I'm slitting throats". In game of course. I usually hear the sounds of crickets, or maybe a laugh or two after that. Violence is more exceptable than the human body. Harming bodies = ok.
I recently made a post in another thread dealing with how my parents would let me watch horror movies no matter how graphic, but tell me to leave the room when bewbies would be shown. Violence = ok, bewbies = not ok. WTF does that say about our society? My parents weren't alone in parenting me like that btw, so it's not just their stupidity.
Many people don't question their own conditioning and are basically thinking and reacting in a auto pilot fashion. One of the most irritating things in our existence. To me at least.
Having said that, there are some people I really don't care to see naked. Believe it or not:) I suppose that after awhile we would be desensitized to it. However some people might still make me barf. | |
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Posted: 1/16/2007 9:42:15 AM | | Oh yea I can see everyone in society walking around naked. I can only imagine the ackwardness at the family reunion and seeing granny sitting there naked while putting her dentures in to eat dinner. | |
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| What is Wrong with Nudity?
Posted: 1/16/2007 11:48:35 AM |
Nudists are perverts in disguise.
This obviously can not be true... because to be in disguise they would have to be covering thier bodies somehow and then they wouldn't be nudists!
Seriously though mrdecember, have you ever met anyone who forced you to look at thier naked body?
Nudists are people who prefer to be unclothed when they can, not all the time, just when they can. Most are hardworking people who hold down normal jobs in offices, schools and hospitals and wear the atire prescribed by thier jobs, but when they go home and it is safe decnet, they remove the clothes they have no wish to wear and go as god intended them to.
There is no more reason for any Nudist to force you to see them naked than there is for you to force a nudist to pray with you. Might well wan't them to join you in prayer, but I suspect you would respect thier views and not try to force them, just a nudist might well want to be naked at work, but they will respect the views of all the other people they work with and wear clothing.
per·vert (pr-vûrt)
tr.v. per·vert·ed, per·vert·ing, per·verts
1. To cause to turn away from what is right, proper, or good; corrupt.
2. To bring to a bad or worse condition; debase.
3. To put to a wrong or improper use; misuse. See Synonyms at corrupt.
4. To interpret incorrectly; misconstrue or distort
Now as a religious man you know that is not up to you to decide what is right proper or good and so definition one can not apply to Nudism.
What is bad about being nude?
What is the wrong use of the human body exactly?
How is being naked distortion of the human body?
There is nothing wrong with being naked in certain cituations, it would be a disadvantage in the arctic, but in the tropics it would be an advantage. There is nothing inherently bad about nudity just as there is nothing inherently good about clothing, it has usses and draw backs. It is only our conceptualisations of these things that gives them properties beyond the practical.
Other people may be trying to demonise your religion but I am not. To claim that I am would be libalus falsehoods. So please stop trying to demonise my personal belifs as I would never stoop to such mesures. You can have your religious views and I will never tell you that youre wrong to hold them so why must you tell me that I am a pervert for simply prefering my natural state when at home?
As for the state of my sofa, here is a fact for you. My sofa is cleaner than yours!
Naked people are cleaner than clothed people. FACT.
When I get home, I take my clothes and shower, leaving the dirt that EVERBODYS clothes pick up during the day, in the clothes basket ready to be washed off. When I walk around the house nI do not track dirt form outside all over the place. When I sit down I do not leave dirty marks because I have heard of this little thing called washing! Because I have no clothes over my body, I do not trap sweat and dirt next to my skin, so I happen to sweat and smell less than clothed people do. If I drop a bit of pasta on myself, I just simply sponge it off and there are no fibers for tiny particles of food to get traped by.
Clothes cause health problems that people overlook all the time. Candida infections are caused by sweat traped by clothing. Fungal foot infections do not ocour in people with dry feat and shoes make feat sweat. Inflamatory skin conditions can be caused by the detergents (thats why we have bi and non-bi washing powders.) or dies ussed in clothing and cleaning of clothes. Clothes harbour dust, polen, animal hairs, plant fibers and dust mites that can cause a person with alergies or asthma to have an attack. Many of the products ussed in the manufacture of clothes and some of the materials clothing is made fom are carcinogenic. (That is to say, they cause cancer.)
Womens clothes are even worse than mens, because of the tight fit of many womens clothes. Jeans that are to tight can cause abrasions and skin legions. Shoes that are the wrong shape can cause permanent damage to the feet, anckles, calves, knees, thighs and even the spine through bad posture. Badly fitted bras can damage the breasts tisue causing premature saging, skin legions, skin ulcers, and even cancer. Bras with poorly fitted straps can put all the weight on the shoulders causing weakaning on the colar bone and in doing so, pain in the arms, or they can put the weight on the back and cause pain, sliped disks and spinal deformations.
One of the first things they do in Hospital ER's is to remove any clothing that might restrict breathing or rub against infected areas or get into open wounds or such likes.
In all clothes can be very uncomfortable and damaging to your health. But I would never tell you to remove your clothes as it is not my place to do so, in fact if you were complaining of being cold I might actualy tell you to put more clothes on rather than turning up the heating. I have no dislike of clothes, I see them purely for thier functional and asthetic purposes, I just happen to be more comfortable without clothes on and so will remove my clothes when it is ok for me to do so. | |
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Posted: 1/16/2007 1:37:02 PM | | ^^^ Sometimes people can be to damn analytical about the most silly things. | |
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Posted: 1/20/2007 8:05:54 PM | | TRULY ATTRACTIVE BODIES? THAT IS A PERSONAL OPINION. WHAT YOU OR I FEEL IS UNATTRACTIVE, SOMEONE ELSE MAY SEE DIFFERENTLY. TO EACH IS OWN. DONT BE SO ****ING JUDGEMENTAL. UNDERSTAND? | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 7:19:11 AM | The truth is people would enjoy removing their clothes if they considered they had great bodies. This is why they do it within the confines of their own homes, not out of a sense of decency... although it's obvious why we have laws restricting its practice. If I were invited to a nudist club or beach I may would accept that invitation, but it wouldn't be easy, simply because life has placed me under these constraints.
So the answer to the question is nothing, there's nothing wrong with it in the right place and with the right person/people. It's what you do with it when you are in that state that might cause concern. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 12:47:44 PM | Wow message 89 posted by brightraziel............
couldnt have said it better myself. I also love clothes as much as I love nudity and I am thankful to have the choice of both. | |
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Posted: 1/23/2007 8:49:50 AM | Perhaps if we made the "naked eye" illegal, in public, we could keep the rest of our bodies legal. Wow, consider the possibilities, we could start treating people with the respect they deserve based on what's in their mind and not what they look like. Wouldn't that be a better solution overall? This could be the new and improved "naked law".
That's right Naked Law 2.0 could be just this simple:
When greeting those you don't want to see naked, cover your naked eyes instead of demanding them to cover their entire body.
It's pretty simple and it respects the personal space of others. I'm not suggesting that anyone be required to "go around naked" or clothed, so don't think you can't cover up when you choose. Think about it our eyes are just as naked as someone else's body. So why should we fine and/or imprison strangers, neighbors, friends, or even family members for not covering their entire body when all we need to do to keep our "sexual decency" is cover our "shamefully" naked eyes instead. I guess some would call me crazy but I consider the eyes to be the sexiest part of our body. So this makes perfect sense to me, especially if the goal of our "naked laws" are to downplay sexuality in our society. Don't you agree that we should improve the current law and cover the "naked eye" instead?
We also might find practicing this law beneficial in helping our future freedom loving Americans understand how nice it is when we respect peoples three feet of personal space and that it's what's on the inside that really matters.
Don't you agree that we should improve the current law and cover the "naked eye"? Hey if we do make this a law, guess what? We don't even have to do away with the old law. If someone complains that someone is naked, their complaint would simply prove they were not obeying the current "Naked Law 2.0" because they didn't cover their "naked eye" so they get fined for breaking the law too. It could be mutual responsibility law. | |
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Posted: 1/23/2007 11:00:05 AM | How is the human body born?
Naked.
What is the human body underneath the false skins we wear?
Naked.
What is the purpose of clothing to a wise person?
Protection.
Nudity is natural, and clothing is a tool. Clothing is technology; a human invention, designed to make up for our natural inferiority of body.
We are not meant to be either one or the other: we are allowed to be whichever we choose.
If you think nudity is a matter of the Bible, then know this:
I've been to France and Spain, and both in the Christian areas. There are nude beaches and no one cares.
You know how to tell an American from anyone else at a nude beach? They look.
We're not following God's law. We're Puritans, and shameful ones at that.
Just look at how much we love getting involved in witch hunts...
BTW: the word Porn comes from the term pornea, which is Hebrew for "illusion" or "simulation". A movie or television program or video game of any sort, regardless of content, is pornea.
We turned pornea into an idea of sexuality and violence because quite truly, we're the perverts.
Did you know that children who are allowed to sleep with their parents as children almost always have healthier sexual lives as adults? The Bible was written by a human being, for human beings. If you want to know the laws of existence, just pay attention to reality, for Chrissakes!
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Posted: 1/24/2007 7:11:31 AM | The question should be: What's wrong with religious people and nudity.
They are so uptight about offending their god that they try to over-compensate and think of anything and everything they think might offend their imagined god.
They have so little belief in their fellow man that they think if we see a woman on the beach in a thong we're all going to turn into uncontrollable rapists at a moments notice.
In regions of europe the have nude beaches and it's no big deal. But here a parent is ready to go nuts because their kid see's a woman in a thong on the beach. I think it is ridiculous.
Everything is relative. In the middle east, a bare ankle may drive some men wild with desire because they don't see them very often, but to us it's nothing.
If society made no big deal about nudity - it wouldn't be a big deal because it would be common which I think would be better for society. | |
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Posted: 1/24/2007 6:44:04 PM | It's the old fundamentalist puritan Christian be*lie*f that the flesh (naked body) is bad/evil/sinful and that's why it has to be covered up, at least certain parts. Just remember that famous 'wardrobe malfunction' Janet Jackson had three years ago. I don't know if someone already mentioned that, I didn't read the entire thread, but if everyone walked around naked all the time (climate permitting), soon we'd get used to it and seeing exposed genitals wouldn't be any bigger of a deal than seeing an exposed knee. At on time an exposed knee or even ankle was considered scandalous, imagine that. Americans really need to grow up in that area. Topless bars would go out of business if women could at least take their tops off at the beach, without people staring and commenting. In Germany, in Munich, at the English Garden, you will see topless women and even totally nude people on a hot summer's day, and it's perfectly legal. Nobody is traumatized or offended.
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| What is Wrong with Nudity?
Posted: 1/24/2007 6:44:49 PM | "The skin of a body which is constantly covered by clothes, keeps elasticity, elasticity, freshness, than a skin on the open parts of a body much longer. " Taken from some skin care information science.
In regions of europe the have nude beaches and it's no big deal. It is a big deal and not all places in Europe have those. yes it is a big deal. They just brag about it at the end of the day. I grew up in Europe.
In the middle east, a bare ankle may drive some men wild with desire because they don't see them very often, but to us it's nothing.
Wrong again. they all have sisters/mothers/wives. You probably read this somewhere from some biased/prejudist/whatever writer/journalist but you've obviously never been among many middle eastern people. I know the middle eastern culture and thinking. People there are not impressed with half naked women when they go to the west. If you think just a little about it, their intimate life is much better, cheating is just about impossible and traditional family structure is pretty strong.
If society made no big deal about nudity - it wouldn't be a big deal because it would be common which I think would be better for society. It would makes life easier for rapists and child molestors. It's only a good idea for size shoppers though.
I'm the guy that drives a car with a sticker that says "Nudists are perverts in disguise" | |
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