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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 3/30/2005 5:49:38 PM | | Yes , I understand that , it's just the circumstances of this situation. Last night I was surfing cable channels and on 2 seperate news channels ,they stated some disturbing facts that are difficult to dismiss. One news channel anchor mention the fact that over 2 dozen surgeons and doctors believe that Teri has been MIS diagnosed, I flipped to another news channel and they stated that 30 doctors and surgeons who have observed this woman do believe without a doubt that she has been Mis diagnosed. Not to mention all of the eye witnesses who are probably friends and family , who do believe she has been mis diagnosed. Really , from what I have seen , it appears to me that the husband is the only one who believes that she is in a vegetative state. Just these speculations alone should warrant a more accurate investigation . It does explain why the parents of Terry are fighting so dilligently to have the feeding tube re-installed. How can over 2 dozen doctors and neuro surgeons observations be so quickly dismissed? I wish I could believe that story about her being in a vegetative state , then maybe I could sleep at night. | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 3/30/2005 7:47:04 PM |
I wish I could believe that story about her being in a vegetative state , then maybe I could sleep at night.
15 years without saying a word. Come on now. Do you really think there is anyone in there? What if she does have some sort of conciousness? If it was you and you were in there but couldn't move, eat, talk? would you want to lay on a bed for 15 years trapped in a useless body?
Not me, show some mercy and put me down.
Back to all these doctors though. Before can I believe that this many doctors think she was misdiagnosed I need to see some names. How many have even seen her to be able to have an opinion? Lets see them back up the diagnosis they made without ever seeing her. I suppose though that if a news person called enough doctors some of them would say she was misdiagnosed. | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 3/30/2005 9:03:59 PM | | micxter... i know exactly where you're coming from, i've watched the news as well but you have to remember... people are seperating themselves into the typical left wing/right wing categories and depending on who's reporting, who you're listening to on the radio, you will get news that falls in line with their political beliefs. i watched one report last night where a reporter got her butt nailed to the wall by a doctor who insisted she reported the facts and when she couldn't stand it anymore and couldn't defend herself, her news anchor stepped in and tried to shut the doctor down. it's all propaganda, that's why i suggest you do some research of your own on the facts they are giving you in between all the propaganda and form your opinion from what you learn on your own using unbiased materials. i listened to both sides, looked up the bulemia, looked up the info. on how the brain works, looked up the feeding tube stuff too... there is a plethera of information out there for you to reivew on your own. don't let other people set your opinions in stone and definitely don't let this keep you up at night... if you find, after checkin' all this out for yourself, that it's inhumane for them to pull the feeding tube, then at least you formed that opinion based on the facts you dug up for yourself. | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 3/30/2005 11:11:02 PM |
WIESBADEN, Germany - A U.S. Army tank company commander told a military court Wednesday that he shot a gravely wounded, unarmed Iraqi man “to put him out of his misery,” saying the killing was “honorable.”
Taking the stand for the first time, Capt. Rogelio “Roger” Maynulet, 30, described the events that led him to fire twice upon the Iraqi, maintaining that the man was too badly injured to survive.
“He was in a state that I didn’t think was justified — I had to put him out of his misery,” Maynulet said. He argued that the killing “was the right thing to do, it was the honorable thing to do.”
Prosecutors at the court-martial say Maynulet violated military rules of engagement by shooting an Iraqi who was wounded and unarmed.
Maynulet is being court-martialed on a charge of assault with intent to commit murder in the May 21, 2004, killing near Kufa, south of Baghdad.
All hail the culture of life.
http://www.livejournal.com/community/antiwar/2621213.html?#cutid1 | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 3/30/2005 11:54:58 PM |
Back to all these doctors though. Before can I believe that this many doctors think she was misdiagnosed I need to see some names. How many have even seen her to be able to have an opinion?
How many PoFers have seen her to make an opinion?
Lets see them back up the diagnosis they made without ever seeing her.
Lets see you back up the diagnosis made without ever seeing her.
I suppose though that if a news person called enough doctors some of them would say she was misdiagnosed.
And, they are infinitely more qualified than you or I. I don't know if Schiavo is in a PVS, or if she wanted/wants to live that way. Just because you wouldn't, though, doesn't mean she doesn't. You'll forgive me if I side with the people who have known her longest, been closest to her, and have nothing to gain by her death. | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 3/31/2005 6:50:40 AM | It is difficult to obtain any trustworthy info about Teri's condition because Michael ruthlessly controls access to her. However, there is still sufficient evidence to cast serious doubt on whether she is in a PVS. And if she isn't, then they really are torturing her (through starvation) and murdering her. Why would anyone admit to that?
And I find it very suspicious that the whole thing needs to be clouded in secrecy. That secrecy allows those who want her dead to dismiss any contravening evidence as paranoid fantasy or politically motivated. Very convenient. If she's really the way they say she is, and if it is beyond reasonable doubt, then why are they hiding her? They would have nothing to lose and everything to gain if they let people look at her and see she really is a vegetable. Instead, Michael is hiding behind his "rights." Nor would it be humiliating for her if she were completely gone; she wouldn't be capable of caring. | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 3/31/2005 6:59:59 PM | | avatar honey... it's the principal of the matter. in my family, we would know better than to put each other in such a public spotlight if we were living in the condition terri did for so long. it's a personal, family matter that the public had no business peering into... terri had rights to privacy that her parents fully disrespected by involving the media to begin with & they were WAY out of line for doing it. it wasn't terri's husband that was running around looking for support, it was her parents. and i commend him for staying out of the spotlight as much as he could/did during this ordeal. it had to be extremely hard for him to bite his tounge when be accused of murder! unless you've lived his life for the past 15 years, i wouldn't cast stones at him. 15 years of suffering at the hands of terri's relentless family would have been enough for most people to give up and walk away... terri's husband obviously took his vows seriously. i'm just glad it's all over now. | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 4/1/2005 10:30:17 AM | | I absolutely agree. Any money he received for pain and suffering through this ordeal in 1993 is long gone on health care for his wife. I understand the parents pain... but they need to let go and move on with their lives, knowing their daughter is now "in a much better place." | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 4/1/2005 11:58:34 AM | "it wasn't terri's husband that was running around looking for support, it was her parents. and i commend him for staying out of the spotlight ."
True, but I believe that he wasn't the one who felt victimized. Terry's parent's were the ones who obviously felt that their daughter's rights were being trampled on. We can all speculate about her condition ,and research all the information about people in vegetative conditions , but really it doesn't have a lot of validity ,baecause there is no way any one can say for sure that she was in that condition. Yes, eating disorders could have caused her alleged condition , but so many other things could have caused it as well. I will admit I have made speculations about this subject . That is all anyone can do , unless they are right there,and know first hand. That is what I have based my assumptions on. I look for who is closest to her and has been fighting for her the most , and I keep coming up with the same answer: her parents, they had nothing to gain for doing what they did , and always tried to protect her and help her, so that is why I have to support the idea ,that they did believe that she was being victimized, and the parent were acting out of love ,on their daughter's behalf. | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 4/1/2005 8:44:30 PM | micxter... if terri's husband did not feel her family had crossed the line with him, he would not have gone to the lengths he did to keep them away from her, especially, during the last moments of her life.
this is definitely a touchy subject and no one can really say how they'd react in either one of the sides if it were them involved, until the day it does happen in their lives. i know there'd be no one in this world that would be able to keep me from being with my son in his last moments, that's for sure. i don't agree with a lot of what's gone on between these two families over terri's condition, but ultimately, i had to side with terri's husband for finally having the courage to let his wife go.
terri's parents lost their place in her life by fighting a battle with the one man that had the power and used it against them, to keep their daughter from them... i would have made him my best friend if i had to in order to be by my child's side and terri's family chose not to do that and they suffered in the end for that decision. like i said before... you need to keep your enemies close to you at all times. | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 4/1/2005 9:14:15 PM | In a way, I'm glad it's over and she is finally at peace. But, deep down inside, I really thought if there was a chance for her to recover after her feeding tube had been removed, she could have opened her eyes and in a cookie monster voice, shouted out "COOKIE!" and then ate it making AAAHHHCHOMPCHOMPCHOMPCHOMP noises with crumbs flying everywhere.
Yeah, that would have been a miracle. | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 4/1/2005 9:15:49 PM | | it would have been pretty scary too! :) | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 6/15/2005 7:05:25 AM | | has anyone heard anything more about terry or the autopsy? | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 6/15/2005 7:38:03 AM | | I believe the results are going to be made public sometime this week. | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 6/15/2005 9:15:37 AM | Here is a 2005 timeline that I found on the web when I did a GOOGLE SEARCH: The one on April 4 is very disturbing (as well as other things mentioned below) in my opinion.
MOST CURRENT REPORT: June 14, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Autopsy Results Expected Wednesday, Questions Remain
May 23, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Granted Estate on Day She Dies
May 10, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Autopsy Results Two to Three Weeks Away
May 7, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Still Withholding Burial Information
April 20, 2005 - House Committee Holds Hearing on Terri Schiavo, Protecting Disabled
April 19, 2005 - Senate Will Not Launch Investigation on Terri Schiavo Memo
April 15, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Judge Orders Release of Records on Her Abuse
April 7, 2005 - Senate Committee Hearing on Terri Schiavo, Disabled Care Divided
April 5, 2005 - Parents' Memorial for Terri Schiavo Draws 800 Supporters
April 5, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Judges Won't be Targeted, Senate Leader Frist Says
April 4, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Cremated, Schindlers Denied Autopsy Reviewer
April 4, 2005 - Judge Denies Opening Abuse Records in Terri Schiavo Case
April 4, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Family Speaks at Memorial, Plans Funeral
April 1, 2005 - Autopsy Performed on Terri Schiavo, Schinders to Help Disabled
April 1, 2005 - Zogby Poll: Americans Not in Favor of Starving Terri Schiavo
April 1, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Battle Prompts Call to Protect Disabled Patients
March 31, 2005 - Schiavo Autopsy Will Not Confirm Diagnosis
March 31, 2005 - President Bush: Terri Schiavo's Death Sad Day for Nation
March 31, 2005 - Schindler Family Statement
March 31, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Dies After Enduring 13-Day Court-Ordered Starvation
March 30, 2005 - Supreme Court Rejects Another Appeal From Terri Schiavo's Parents
March 30, 2005 - Federal Appeals Court Again Defeats Effort to Save Terri Schiavo
March 30, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Judges Should be Held Accountable, Senator Says
March 30, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Family, Supporters Excited by Appeals Court Action
March 30, 2005 - Autopsy on Terri Schiavo Planned Before Michael's Decision
March 30, 2005 - CBS News Posts Prewritten Story Saying Terri Schiavo Died
March 30, 2005 - Federal Appeals Court OKs Hearing for Terri Schiavo's Parents
March 29, 2005 - Laura Bush: Government Right to Help Terri Schiavo's Parents
March 29, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Condition Deteriorates, Likely Beyond Recovery
March 29, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Will Allow Autopsy
March 28, 2005 - Backers of Schiavo's Parents Head to Washington
March 28, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Receives Easter Communion and Morphine for Pain
March 28, 2005 - Florida Governor Jeb Bush Again Says He Can't Help Terri Schiavo
March 27, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Family Resigned She Will Die, Condition Disputed
March 27, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Denies Her Final Communion
March 26, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents Have Filed Their Last Court Appeal
March 26, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents Won't Ask Full Appeals Court to Review Lawsuit
March 24, 2005 - U.S. Supreme Court Rejects Schiavo Parents' Appeal
March 24, 2005 - Florida Officials Can't Take Custody of Terri Schiavo, Judge Rules
March 23, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents Ask Supreme Court to Save Their Daughter
March 23, 2005 - Florida Agency May Take Terri Schiavo Into Custody for Investigation
March 23, 2005 - Florida Senate Again Defeats Bill to Help Terri Schiavo
March 23, 2005 - Neurologists: Terri Schiavo Not in Persistent Vegetative State
March 23, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents Lose Full Federal Appeals Court Decision
March 23, 2005 - House Committee Postpones Hearing on Terri Schiavo Subpoenas
March 23, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents File Request for Full Appeals Court Review
March 23, 2005 - President Bush: No Legal Options Left for Terri Schiavo
March 23, 2005 - Governor Bush Makes Final Plea for Florida Law Saving Terri Schiavo
March 23, 2005 - Appeals Court: Terri Schiavo's Starvation Death Shouldn't be Stopped
March 22, 2005 - Pressure Increases on Florida Legislature to Help Terri Schiavo
March 22, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents Appeal Federal Judges Decision Allowing Starvation
March 22, 2005 - Judge Denies Bid to Restore Schiavo's Feeding Tube
March 21, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Judge Won't Issue Ruling Immediately on Lawsuit
March 21, 2005 - Federal Appeals Court Won't Decide Terri Schiavo Case Before Judge Does
March 21, 2005 - Federal Judge Orders Hearing Monday on Terri Schiavo's Parents' Lawsuit
March 21, 2005 - Bush Signs Schiavo Bill Into Law
March 21, 2005 - House Approves Terri Schaivo Measure by Wide Bipartisan Margin
March 19, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents, Estranged Husband Wage Media Battle
March 18, 2005 - Florida Senate Decides Not to Approve House-Passed Bill on Terri Schiavo
March 18, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Feeding Tube Removed, Michael's Attorney Says
March 18, 2005 - House Will Subpoena Terri Schiavo Docs to Prevent Her Starvation
March 18, 2005 - Pro-Life Groups: Congress Has One More Chance to Save Terri Schiavo
March 18, 2005 - President Bush Supports Helping Terri Schiavo, Courts Should Back Disabled
March 17, 2005 - Supreme Court, Florida Courts Reject Efforts to Save Terri Schiavo
March 17, 2005 - U.S. Senate Approves Bill to Protect Terri Schiavo, Too Late to Help
March 17, 2005 - Florida Senate Defeats Terri Schiavo Bill, Legislative Option May Be Dead
March 17, 2005 - Senate Will Take Up Terri Schiavo Bill, President Bush Would Sign It
March 17, 2005 - House Approves Bill Allowing Terri Schiavo Case to Head to Federal Courts
March 17, 2005 - Terri Schiavio's Starvation Death Can Continue, Florida Appeals Court Rules
March 17, 2005 - Florida Lawmakers Work to Finalize Bill Protecting Terri Schiavo
March 16, 2005 - House Bill Helping Terri Schiavo Has Hearing Wednesday, Senate Next
March 15, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Bill Clears Florida House Committees, House Votes Thursday
March 15, 2005 - Florida Agency Appeals Terri Schiavo Abuse Investigation Decision
March 11, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents Discuss Rejection of Million Dollar Offer
March 11, 2005 - Mel Gibson Weighs In on Terri Schiavo Debate, Supports Parents
March 11, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Turns Down $1 Million to Save Her
March 10, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Gets $1 Million Offer to Not Kill Her
March 10, 2005 - Abuse, Neglect of Terri Schiavo Can't be Investigated, Judge Says
March 10, 2005 - Agency Weighs Next Move After Terri Schiavo Judge Rejects Delay
March 10, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Judge Rejects Motions on Medical Testing, Stopping Starvation
March 9, 2005 - Judge Rules No Food, Water for Schiavo
March 9, 2005 - Congressional Bill Would Protect Terri Schiavo, Disabled People
March 8, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents Argue for Medical Tests Before Starvation Death
March 8, 2005 - Disability Rights Groups Back Congressional Bill Helping Terri Schiavo
March 7, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents Back in Court, Hope Florida Legislature Will Help
March 7, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Can Still be Rehabilitated, Nobel Prize-Nominated Doctor Says
March 4, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Abuse Document Cites Complaints Against Michael
March 3, 2005 - Congress Could Save Terri Schiavo's Life, Pro-Life Group Says
March 3, 2005 - Investigation of Abuse of Terri Schiavo Should be Made Public, Judge Rules
March 3, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents: Starvation Ruling Based on Faulty Assumptions
March 2, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Judge Hears Arguments on Making Abuse Inquiry Public
March 1, 2005 - Judge Greer Denies Several Motions Filed to Save Terri Schiavo
February 26, 2005 - Victims Advocacy Group to Help Terri Schiavo's Parents on Abuse Concerns
February 26, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Family Distressed by Biased Associated Press Report
February 25, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Family, Michael's Attorney React to Judge's Decision
February 25, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Starvation On Hold Until March While Parents Continue Battle
February 24, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Possibly Abused, Florida Agency Wants 60 Days to Investigate
February 23, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Judge Extends Order Preventing Starvation Until Friday
February 23, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Feeding Tube in Place After Emergency Court Order
February 22, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Feeding Tube Can be Removed Appeals Court Says
February 21, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Estranged Husband Plans Feeding Tube Removal Tuesday
February 21, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Feeding Tube Remains, Husband Can't Starve Her Yet
February 21, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents Lose Appeals Court Motion to Delay Issuing Opinion
February 18, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents: More Tests Are Needed Before Daughter Starved
February 17, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Supporters Step Up Protests, Will Picket Michael's Home
February 16, 2005 - Disability Advocates Come to Terri Schiavo's Defense, Oppose Starvation
February 15, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents Launch Public Campaign to Save Their Daughter
February 12, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Didn't Deserve Her Own Attorney, Feeding Tube Can Be Removed
February 10, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Feeding Tube Could be Removed in Two Weeks, Parents Fight
February 8, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents Lose Religious Liberties Argument at Appeals Court
February 1, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Gets Worse Treatment Than Convicted Felons, Attorney Says
January 31, 2005 - Terri Schiavo Hearing Focuses on Lack of Attorney for Her Interests
January 27, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents, Estranged Husband Likely Won't Agree on Settlement
January 26, 2005 - Former Terri Schiavo Legal Advocate: New Medical Exam Needed
January 24, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Law Rejected at Supreme Court, Few Options Remain
January 17, 2005 - Supreme Court Will Decide This Week on Accepting Terri Schiavo Case
January 11, 2005 - Terri Schiavo's Parents Want Estranged Husband's Guardianship Ended
January 6, 2005 - Schindlers Ask Court to Void Order Removing Terri Schiavo's Assisted Feeding
January 4, 2005 - Attorney for Terri Schiavo's Parents Calls Terri Responsive, Not Comatose
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 6/15/2005 9:34:15 AM | NO SIGNS THAT TERRI SCHIAVO WAS ABUSED
heres the link to the AOL report...
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050614174009990008&ncid=NWS00010000000001 | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 6/15/2005 10:34:54 AM |
NO SIGNS THAT TERRI SCHIAVO WAS ABUSED
Well there was that two week streatch where she starved to death | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 6/15/2005 11:39:43 AM | Here's a link from the St. Pete Times, the local paper. I live where this happened.
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/06/15/Tampabay/Schiavo_autopsy_shows.shtml
The St. Pete TImes also has an archive of articles on the case.
Happy reading! | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 6/15/2005 12:43:33 PM | | Did anyone see her autopsy photos besides me? She looked like she was from one of those old WWII concentration camp films. | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 6/15/2005 12:45:38 PM | | bulldogmedic Are the autopsy photos public? Can you post a link? Thanks. | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 6/15/2005 1:45:45 PM | Hmmm. I went looking for the pics, and it appears that hoaxsters re-released autopsy photos of Lisa McPherson who died in the same manner as Terri Schiavo, at the hands of Scientologists. I apologize for giving incorrect information.
However, the Lisa McPherson photos will probably give you a good idea of what Terri Schiavo looked like at the end stages of her life. This is a link to her website, and you must agree to see the pictures at the bottom of the page, if you are so inclined.
whyaretheydead.net/lisa_mcpherson/autopsy/agree.html | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 6/15/2005 2:45:13 PM | | bulldog I HAD a picture someone from another website sent me, don't know if I can find it, but it was right before she died look like a cell phone type picture. If I run across it, I'll post the link. Listen, it's not your fault there were people posting that picture all over creation. You couldn't have known. At least you tried thanks for that. | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 6/15/2005 3:30:26 PM | LOL, another victory for the record of the president :(
Wait, she was braindead and blind... another huge blunder on the part of he who will forever be known as leader during the "REIGN OF IGNORANCE"!
What a fool. :) | |
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| Terry Schiavo
Posted: 6/15/2005 4:34:55 PM | | Way to bring Bush-bashing into the discussion from out of left field. Even a woman's death can't keep some people from injecting their angst into a thread. | |
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