| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 10/21/2006 8:46:57 AM | I hate getting them and can tell a cut and paste three emails away. I would have to say that most think it’s a numbers game. Send the same email to 50, 20 will delete, 20 will read and delete, 5 will just leave it and 5 will reply.
In other words, throw enough crap to the wall and some will stick!
Sigh
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 10/21/2006 8:51:13 AM | If I know I will be emailing several people on my friends list just to touch base after not writing for a while I will cut and paste the framework of a message so I don't have to type it 10 times, but each will then get personalized from there. That isn't really what you are talking about though and I understand what you men. I get those first emails mainly from women who place some importance on seeing how many fave lists they get on.
There are two who live near each other and are apparently in a contest because they are both on over 700 faves and growing every day. Both extremely attractive, both with photos that enhance and accentuate their beauty without being slutty.
How do I know it was nothing to take seriously?
If this woman has her pick of over 700 faves, why does she write to some fat ugly guy who is more than 20 years older than her?
Yep. Many grains of salt here.
One woman from Ontario last year sent me a PRICE LIST!!!! (She's long gone now.) | |
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 10/21/2006 8:51:48 AM | Copy and paste is the lazy way to do things on here. But I can see it from the guy point of view. Internet dating is a pure numbers game just like going to the bar. I started on here all naive and taking the time to actually read the whole profile see if there are mutual interest and what not. Take another 5-10 mins to write out a nice opening email. Only to see it unread/deleted. No biggie on to attempt number 2 with another women same thing. So 2 emails and say an hour in total between reading the profile and writing the 2 emails.
So take the same amount of time and do copy n paste, now you have 10 ladies emailed and maybe 1 out of the 10 will say hi back. Now this would be the time to get orginal and ask about her profile, likes n dislikes. Personally I've given up emailing women on here, instead just go to POF events and see if I click with anyone in person. That has worked out much better for me. No dates or anything, but now have 2 new friends.
On the other side of things, I've been having one of the better conversations on here with a young lady that emailed simply with the word Hi. Not all great connections are going to start with a well thought out and orginial email. Some of the best conversations start with a simply Hi. Keep that in mind. And i'll ask how many of the women complaining about the copy n paste emails would reply to someone just saying Hi. | |
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 10/21/2006 8:56:24 AM | eastside Well there are times I've done a mass email....*blush* Over the holidays, I like to write my favs and wish them a happy holiday. Yeah, the shame!!  | |
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 10/21/2006 8:57:12 AM | I've just read through the entire list of responses to this thread. To be honest, almost all of them are valid points, based on the writers' experience.
So, I'll just say this. I don't copy/paste. Granted, I am very selective in initiating the first email to a guy, but when a man emails me, I try to be gracious enough to respond one way or the other (if I've missed a few, I apologize). I can pretty much tell when a guy has sent me a "form-letter" type email, and I try to respond with humor. Just today, I replied to a guy who sent me the same copy/paste email for the second time letting him know that I was aware it was a copy/paste, but also closed it with the words "I hope that makes me special. Good luck."
However, I understand the frustration that makes guys (and wowen) resort to the copy/paste thing. I just think that maybe a few extra keystrokes would make it less likely to land in the "Read-Deleted, Unread-Deleted" pile. Would it be too hard to insert the recipient's username at the top of the note? Or a mention of some small thing he/she said in his/her profile to give them the idea that you might have actually read it, and not just sent the copy/paste in response to the brief hormone flux you got from their photo? Or even a small comment about the photo itself, if you indeed did not read the profile.
Any kind of acknowledgement that way would show that you weren't just playing the percentage game. | |
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 10/21/2006 11:04:50 AM |
Is it really a waste of time to sit down and write an email?
Not at all. Is it a waste of time to write seven unique emails when the last 20 (spread out over several days -grin-) were deleted? It's hard to see it any other way.
Is your demanding professional life going to get in the way of your dating someone?
You're assuming that first contact and subsequent dating are in some way related, whereas the two have nothing in common.
Maybe you could find 15 minutes to go for a coffee or maybe you could c/p the date too.
I can't seem to find the Copy or Paste entries under my Dating menu. Which program are you using?
Seriously, as I said before, I think we're defining copy and paste differently. I am not talking about sending the exact, verbatim, message to large pool of randomly selected people. I would never do something pointless like that. Who knows what might get dredged up in a trawling net. I only ever send emails to specific profiles that appeal to me. There are some things that are necessarily part of most, if not every, first contact; and there is no difference between typing those same words time after time, and pasting them in -- except the time it takes.
There are, correspondingly, parts of every first contact that are unique to a profile. Those parts are written specifically for that profile.
Hmmm...maybe I should compile a database of first contact responses, and automate sending them out based on keywords found in profiles scraped from an automated trolling of the forums. I could write a program that determines the relative good looks of a picture, and send a message on a sliding scale basis of the calculated result. Then I could just sit back and let the babes roll in, all without lifting a finger (if you don't count the ten years spent writing the software) -muahaha-. | |
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Posted: 10/21/2006 11:17:19 AM | I have had guys send me the same message with the same cut and paste to me TWICE! lol It goes to the tune of: I saw your profile and you are the most beautiful woman on this site yada yada and I crack up because it is word for word the previous cut and paste they sent you a month ago and they FORGOT they sent it to you. I guess there is junk mail and junk email! lol
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 10/21/2006 11:24:09 AM | | I never copy/pasted to any women. I can't say anything for what other men do. | |
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Posted: 10/21/2006 1:34:29 PM | I thought I answered this?
Copy/Paste Copy/Paste Copy/Paste Copy/Paste Copy/Paste Copy/Paste Copy/Paste Copy/Paste Copy/Paste Copy/Paste Copy/Paste Copy/Paste Copy/Paste Copy/Paste  | |
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Posted: 10/21/2006 1:43:30 PM | | 100 % correct so many of you ladie's just delete our messages it gets tiring so thats why try repyling to your email sometime! | |
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 10/21/2006 2:06:14 PM | This thread and the many similar ones that came before it are perfect examples of polarizing generalizations that do nothing to further the real purpose of this site; that is to help men and women connect.
Bigfish needs to install a filter to auto delete every new thread that starts like:
Why do men .....
Why do women ...
How come men .....
How come women ....
...on and on...
The existence of these threads seems to be at cross purpose with the reason we are all here. The purpose of such threads seem to be the airing of rants and frustrations, rather than real discussions of dating issues.
So that I'm not totally off-topic, people who resort to canned contact letters and canned responses are simply showing their general lack of creativity. The recipients of this "date-spam" should delete the rubbish the same way they do spam for viagra, work at home, ink-jet refills, or any of the 1000 other pieces of crap that clutter our regular inboxes each day.
I dont "play the numbers," and as a result, the very few first-contact emails I do send always seem to get responses. | |
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Posted: 10/21/2006 2:37:41 PM | I like being on the defence, so here goes (even though I personally don't cut an paste).
The general message on this thread is that if you son't cut and paste, you write more genuine letters and hence, get better or more responses.
But like I said in an earlier post, for some guys, they are driven to cut an paste because the genuine letters don't get read anyway, and after awhile of trying different writing styles, etc with no sucess, they are tempted to "play the numbers."
My question to the women was, as said above, would you not be tempted to do the same - if repeated individualized letters fail over a large period of time? | |
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Posted: 10/21/2006 2:54:38 PM | | Here is another thought (again, I'm not meaning to sound full of myself but it seems to read that way anyways). I mentioned earlier that I have a pretty high response rate. I don't send very many first contact letters. But I carefully read the profiles of the ladies I'm interested in writing to. I'm honest with myself about who I am and who I think might be interested. My letters take a casual approach and are sometimes funny and self-depreciating - I never mention anything about actually going out on a date. I mentioned something I enjoyed reading in their profile and suggest that they might enjoy reading mine. The letters usually run about four or five sentences. I almost always receive a response. So I guess my suggestion would be: take the time to read the profiles then write to the ladies most likely to respond to a person like you. | |
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Posted: 10/21/2006 3:03:50 PM | | Even more funny. Women who contact men and then ask questions that were answered in their profile. Something that even I, as a guy, would expect guys to do. I love the pictures but I read all the words. If the words aren't as sweet as the pic, I move on. Just as the ones that say looking for a long term relationship. The pic they post, is of them at a bar/club with a drink in their hand and an inebriated smile on their face. How appealling is that? Or the ones that say they drink 3 or more times a week, but their kids come first. Your not supposed to watch your children through the bottom of a****ail glass, duh! Just had to put my 2 cents in here. We can all find faults in one another. The trick is to weed them out early and find the right one for you. I am not just looking for the next woman, but the last woman I will ever have to look for. Good luck to us all, may we all get whom/what we deserve. | |
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Posted: 10/21/2006 3:10:01 PM | | With a user name like yours, your lucky anyone replies. They do have porn sites for people of your caliber. | |
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Posted: 10/21/2006 3:22:42 PM | | ^^^I'm assuming you meant me, but perhaps not. Until you mentioned that, I didn't see it in my user name. It refers to the card game. Maybe I should put a space between the "r" and the "m." Or perhaps the ladies who respond don't read it that way either. Anyway, thanks for pointing it out. | |
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Posted: 10/21/2006 3:58:44 PM | even at Canadian Thanksgiving, I sent individual messages to each of the people on my favs list that live in Canada. They deserve my effort. I can't imagine C&P to them.
By the way....when is American Thanksgiving? | |
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Posted: 10/21/2006 4:01:35 PM | lol SoulReaver, I hear what your saying.
Ladies if your really honest with yourselve's, it's all about your egos. You just want a personal heartfelt email just so you can feel special. If the guy looks like shrek (or me :P) You wont bother replying.
Question to the ladies: If a guy sent you what you thought was a generic email, but he had a good profile, and looked like a greek god, or your ideal match at least, would you still ignore him? | |
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Posted: 10/21/2006 4:03:25 PM | | some men .... not myself .... have it set up to automatically attach their profile to an email. | |
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Posted: 10/21/2006 4:19:41 PM | Time management? LMAO! Thats funny! 
C/C/P...Isn't this considered "netting"? Ya know...as in  ???
Not me! I send an email based on spontaneity feelings about the photo an profile.Usually a simple compliment.
Never CCP! BAD! BAD! Disrespectful! 
**Dang! I gotta get out of these forums, so educational yet can't keep my trap shut!**
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Posted: 10/21/2006 4:29:19 PM | HEY JERRY,
Where are those "Tons of a lot more men" than woman?
they sure aren't in my area..
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Posted: 10/21/2006 4:58:19 PM | That's an interesting question: how many men would respond to a cut and paste message from a woman they were attracted to?
- remember, cut and paste need not be done in a slopply manner. This can mean a very generic intial first contact with a few details peppered in for authenticity.
How many men here would respond if you were attracted to the profile anyway? | |
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Posted: 10/21/2006 11:15:04 PM | First, I apologize if this entry might go off on a bit of a tangent. I do receive many c/p emails.
More often than not, however, my situation has been that I'd read a message from a guy who may or may not have copy-pasted it BUT, when I see his profile (saying 'non-religious') he clearly didn't take the time to carefully read my profile, which says I'm Christian and that it's important to me to share a faith. Why, if he says 'non-religious', is he writing to me? I don't say I'm superior or 'holier than thou', it's just that I want to have that in common and not have tension in that area.. besides, it's so essential to who I am, I could never become emotionally intimate with him, let alone physically, if we can't encourage each other within a mutual deep belief in God.
I'm not preaching here. I'm trying to say please READ before sending me email in an effort to hook up with me, as it'll save you time and frustration... the answer is NO.
...............ESPECIALLY when it's cut/paste!
I'll respond to thank him & wish him well in his search because I don't want to date him, but the other item is that I'm here only for friendships (whether or not they have potential for more is beside the point).. and I get asked for sex. GO FIGURE.
.. one guy actually said in an IM chat that, since I'm Christian, he wouldn't use a condom because he assumed all Christians never use them. LOL. I thanked him, said I didn't want to waste his time, and said goodbye.
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Posted: 10/21/2006 11:37:23 PM | I don't do it because I read the profiles of the women I contact and only those that actually interest me with what's in their full profile get an e-mail. Having said that, well yeah, look, it's silly to go about putting alot of effort into crafting a tailor-made letter just to have it thrown in the e-garbage without even a glance. I mean really, what the heck for ? Somebody explain to me the value of putting all that effort into something just to see it (repeatedly I might add) tossed aside without so much as a "thanks for stopping by" ? Sure, some people say "Well I wouldn't do that !" Okay, and I believe you but YOU aren't the other one hundred women who DO do that.
In any case, the truth is that while I understand why people who copy/paste do this, I don't really see the value in it. If you want to better your odds, you need to get creative and appeal to her in some way that the other 99 guys don't. I don't see how you can do this in any particularly unique fashion without getting specific and talking about things that appeal to her (as elaborated on in her profile) The other thing I want to mention is that it says something about your motivation if you simply copy/paste and fire it off. I'm not implying that there is anything sinister about people who do this . I just think that it says a little bit about desperation. I mean, if you're sending out that many e-mails, what exactly is it that you want anyway ? Maybe a good idea would be to be somewhat more selective with what apparently interests you. If that many women seem to have wife-potential, then perhaps you should re-evaluate what it is that you want in a wife. I would hope that her simply being female isn't your only pre-requisite. If you're writing to two or even three women a day, I would think that spending five minutes composing a letter to each is hardly that taxing an effort. | |
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