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Posted: 10/21/2006 11:44:24 PM | This is from waaaay back but, I appreciate the plug, bucsgirl 
I think I may have tarnished my image by palying devil's advocate haha.
But concerning the previous post about religion - sometimes people put Christian or other religion simply because they that was their upbringing or culture. They don't always practice it.
The other thing is, lots of non-religious people have no problem getting into relationships with people that are religious adn vice versa. So don't be too surprised when you get messages from guys that are agnostic or atheist or simply non-religious.
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Posted: 10/21/2006 11:54:57 PM | Yes, a major pet peeve of mine. The copy/paste from the same men numerous times, stating the same things that are in their profiles and then to top it off they will throw in a comment about me being a blonde, hello I'm a redhead.  | |
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Posted: 10/22/2006 12:12:32 AM | greyymatter ~
The other thing is, lots of non-religious people have no problem getting into relationships with people that are religious adn vice versa.
Thanks for the input and viewpoint, and I can see how some might not regard it as an issue for themselves and would therefore not put that much weight into it for their prospects, but when my profile says I do put weight on it, that's when I don't understand their writing to me since it seems they don't really care. | |
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Posted: 10/22/2006 12:24:07 AM | | Sometimes i feel that guys who copy and paste are not only lazy but probably are or players trying to find as many women as they can cause they don't have to time to sit and write individual letters to each women to make it more personal and to show that they are genuinely interested in the lady or they may have another alterior motive if you know what i mean.getting as many notches on his bedpost as possible. i have had emails like this before and it is a real turn off and i agree with the women that if a man writes and just says love your pic or let's meet right off the bat is a red flag for women just as it would be for a man. if i get an email from a gentleman that writes a long email telling me about himself and what he liked about my profile instead of just my pic usually shows me this guy is possibly for real. | |
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Posted: 10/22/2006 12:33:39 AM | I was watching "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" last week, and a line from that movie now occurs to me: (not perfectly quoted)"If you put out the 'vibe' to hundreds of women, of COURSE your going to get a response" "That's the whole idea".
Anyone who copy/pastes, isn't likely to meet the one person they jibe with, because that person is going to require a REAL response, not a form letter! | |
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Posted: 10/22/2006 2:18:11 AM | Where just going around in circles here.
The generic email is like an ice breaker for me, a "hello how you doing fancy a chat."
Imagine your in a club. Its the difference between, me giving you a simple greeting, and me buying a lady a bottle of champagne and telling her my life story. only for her to say "not interested, thanks for the champagne"
Surely theres at least ONE lady that can understand, not ONE lady can relate?
If I get a reply, I know that the lady is interested and I will take my time and care with my responses, I only send out emails to ladies with profiles I think match mine, It's not as random as women might think. | |
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Posted: 10/22/2006 5:41:26 AM | | Amen Brother... This site is sort of an electronic icebreaker. First impressions are everything. I think being genuine and a little original is the first step to showing a little respect to the person you are hoping to make a connection with. If a guy can't take the time to be original, he should switch to Hallmark. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2006 2:51:53 PM | | Again, Amen! You don't have to write a lady a book but you should take a few minutes and say something original. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2006 3:47:56 PM | It's more efficient.
The trick is writing a message which is a c/p job without making it seem that way (eg. "you look shy and somewhat of a bad girl...i'm thinking you're different from other girls...tell me in what way")
Most women believe this about themselves anyway which is why a message like this is good to send as c/p. Besides it's only the first message. After that it becomes a unique exchange if she responds.
If you're a bit more talented you could get away with looking at their profile and writing the first thing that comes to your mind - i'm talking whatever comes to mind in the first 5 seconds, and then writing that and sending it to her. You really don't want to spend too much time as they may just delete your message anyway. And if you're going to fail, may as well do so with as little work as possible.
Personally, I seldom write messages anymore. It's such a waste of time for the most part and i'd rather the girls message me after reading what i'm about. And I do think it's about time men start adopting this approach and letting the girls message them, allowing the balance to SHIFT. Because even if you're GOOD at getting responses, you are still working way too hard. And besides, women naturally like to "buy", so let them. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2006 4:13:20 PM | I don't copy and paste, but I never really write more then one or two sentences. I've already spent 10-15 minutes carefully reading your profile and deciding if it's worth sending a message. At that point I'm just letting you know that I liked your profile, I didn't see anything that outright ruled you out. At that point it's not worth another 20-30 minutes crafting a long and entertaining e-mail if you are just going to click my profile, find something that wasn't in your profile, and delete my e-mail. I'd rather just ask you to check out my profile and respond back if you are interested in talking more.
Not that it works anyways, I've tried both ways and they get the same success rate, and one of them doesn't waste 2-3 hours.
I'm not really keen on having to do that just because other idiots don't bother to read your profile, I certainly don't ignore the plethora of incoming mail I get :). And I treat the "I just wanted to say hello!" the same as anything else. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2006 4:55:34 PM | Eon001 - that's a very good example. Champagne, I luv it!
No, not a lot of women seem to understand because they don't really grasp what a sea of women there are out there - and they really don't realize is how many genuine thought- out messages it takes to be sent before some guys get responses.
They seem to believe that if you send out a few geniune messages you'll get a response soon enough.
The fact is lots of guys don't - and that's why they use teh copy and paste as an electronic ice breaker. Because noone wants to spend 100k at teh club before they get to dance with a girl, and noone wants to spend a decade on plentyoffish before they get a date.
And yes, some guys get more responses - sometimes no matter what they say. IT doesn't mean it applies to all of us.
--again, I don't cut and paste, but I don't get results either, so how genuine you letter is doesn't always result in a postive result. The women don't seem to grasp how much luck really is involved in being a guy. SOmetimes you can do everything you can and the fact is you simply aren't the type that gets responses  | |
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Posted: 11/18/2006 11:17:36 AM | 
Ahhhhhhhhh here I am now, AND I AM GOING TO FORCEFULLY ADMIT that I DO "copy and paste" but ONLY for the 1st-time CONTACT ATTEMPT and NEVER after any replies to that.
And here I am going to paste something that someone said earlier, ONLY BECAUSE this one man on here said something that I TOTALLY agree with!!! And I seem to think and believe the same way he does, about the sometimes VERY DISHEARTENING EXPERIENCE writing to a woman the FIRST time ONLY:
here I am going to post his original reply here ONE MORE TIME because I believe this REALLY NEEDS TO BE HEARD (read) .... it is very important!! MANY WOMEN ON THIS SITE ARE HEARTLESS, and even if you DID write a completely original letter to them that is only about getting in contact with that 1 woman UNIQUELY, MANY MANY MANY women will just f_u_c_k_i_n_g DELETE the letter if they even read it or not ... at all !!!!
so FACE IT WOMEN, you are just going to have to DEAL with it, AT LEAST IF ONLY for a FIRST TIME CONTACT ... we MEN get sick and TIRED of being DEFLECTED like we're a ping pong ball when we don't even know each other !!! Those of us men who believe we are good in our hearts and DO want UNIQUE contact with a UNIQUE (albeit new) person, a lady who we do not know yet but WISH to get to know .... it HURTS to get rejected SO MUCH even when we write a totally polite and considerate and warm uniquely-crafted letter to just that 1 person ... IT TAKES ALOT OUT OF US ... for some or many of us, our hearts and minds EMPTY VERY QUICKLY and we get SICK AND TIRED of women who just BRUSH US OFF or DEFLECT US WITHOUT EVEN A THOUGHT OR A CARE !!!!! THAT IS WHY MANY PEOPLE (men, women? at least it is why *I* MY SELF) do the "copy and paste" letters ONLY for the 1st contact ... and then from that point on, IF we even get a reply, we (or at least I myself) do reply back in unique written form, a unique and original "to-them-only" reply, according to a conversation that has just begun. I BELIEVE IT IS TOTALLY JUSTIFIED, ESPECIALLY when ATTEMPTING to start contact with a complete stranger (and dammit I DO read profiles and I actually do LIKE IT when I can identify with what someone has written and listed about themselves)...
so here is what this man said, it was one of the very first replies and I love how he said it, it totally made me feel better about how sick some women on this site have treated me when i have tried to write ACTUAL UNIQUE FIRST-TIME letters only to be PUSHED AWAY and told "sorry you are not my type" (which is another F'N gripe of mine because in my view, it is totally STUPID to try and jump into a relationshp with a stranger so I am only looking for FRIENDS FIRST ONLY) ... ARRRRGGGGHHH but that is another gripe for another time!!!!
so here is what "Bill_200" said:
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Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 10/20/2006 10:09:54 AM
IN DEFENCE OF CUT-AND-PASTE
(cross posted from another thread where I originally wrote this)
You girls need some perspective. Try creating a fake men's profile and getting attention from women. The reality is, it's really difficult. Men have to initiate contact (if men didn't, there would be a whole bunch of people signed up on this site, but nobody would be actually connecting). Then consider that men, on average, probably receive about 1% response rate to emails they send out. If women in general can't even be bothered to respond, why should men carefully construct 100 individual emails just to get one response.
(Side note - please don't post to tell me that YOU respond to every email you get. While this might be true, I'm talking about women on this site IN GENERAL.)
So what's the answer to this conundrum? I have a carefully worded generic email that I send to select women that look intesting to me. It's written mostly about me, and since I don't change from day to day, it's always accurate. It also asks some generic questions in hopes that it will initiate a dialogue. Yes, it is a cut-and-paste email and I'm not ashamed of it. It's respectful, interesting and funny, and it nets me about 30% response - if it works, why fix it? From there, my second email is completely original - based on whatever response I get, and converstation can flow naturally from there.
Face it - this site is a numbers game, with the numbers stacked heavily in favour of the women. It's all fine and dandy that you sit behind your computers, collect messages from men to feed your cravings for attention, and then snicker amongst each other that some of us cut-and-paste messages. As I said at the top, put yourself in our shoes.
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and I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HIM 100% and I wish more women would just F'N UNDERSTAND!!! but it seems that MOST of the time, ALOT of you women (not naming names, but ALOT of you women!!!) DO NOT CARE to even try to listen or read ... because all of the other idiot sleazy "BOYS" (read: NOT real men) on here are ruining your experience on this site (this is a perfect visual example of how many sleazy men on here chase after the women and disgust her:  ) so some of you women end-up taking your hurt and WEARINESS of men out on the OTHER good men like us (at least I believe I am a good one)...
Ya know, I hear alot from women about how so many of us MEN are "heartless" and cold but I am sorry I have just the opposite experience. ASIDE from the MANY replies I have gotten, there were also MANY times that I got NO REPLIES AT ALL, even when I did craft a perfectly unique and original letter for the FIRST CONTACT ATTEMPT and a day or sometimes even a WEEK later saw it in my mail as being "UNREAD, DELETED" .... some people on here are ****ING B.I.T.C.H.E.S!! GRRRRRRR so why waste my time unless I can TEST AND SEE if a woman that I am going to be interested in and write to will actually be NICE enough to reply in a HUMAN way? CAN'T WE ALL JUST BE COURTEOUS with each other and if we are not looking or interested in someone's profile (which is also another gripe for another time ... grrrrrrrrrrr) can't we at least post a SHORT REPLY? I mean, hell, if a woman replies to me "sorry not looking" or "not interested" then I am actually THANKFUL that she was polite and courteous enough to acknowledge my existence and that I actually wrote her AND that she actually bothered to care to even say something RESPECTFULLY written back to me to let me know! IT IS CALLED COURTESY, ladies, and some of you lack it (or do not care to use it) and it really bites our ass....
I may seem like a bit of a misogynist to people who listen to me for a long time, but I have been bitten in the ass SORELY by MANY MANY MANY MANY women in my past and I am SICK OF IT ... I should be a men's advocate against the "BAD WOMEN" in the world ... because there are already 100000000000s of you women who are advocates against the "bad men" ... blech!
why aren't there more REAL WOMEN who actually CARE or are AT THE LEAST, HUMANLY COURTEOUS and RESPECTFUL of others, out there in the world ??? I think that is the LEAST anyone can hope for or expect when trying to simply have or initiate a CIVIL correspondence or a NEW conversation with someone!
--Ryan
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Posted: 11/18/2006 11:37:34 AM | wow I love what "heyitsdoug" said! HERE HERE!!
I TOTALLY AGREE - that is how it is !!!!
I don't copy and paste anything in e-mails.
It IS frustrating when you spend time reading profiles and
crafting a well thought out e-mail only to be ignored, but
it's just one of the things you have to deal with when it
comes to on-line dating. (I've even had women contact
me first then not reply when I answer them.)
I don't send out hundreds of e-mails so it's not a problem
to type out each one, but I do admit that I sometimes don't
give it my best effort......I feel a little foolish when I do
write a long message and it's ignored, and regardless of
the EXCUSES women use for ignoring them....it is RUDE!
I'm not talking about messages that just say "HI" or those
that ask for sex or make lude comments, or even copy
and pasted ones. Ignoring someone JUST because you're
not interested is rude and lazy.....and cowardly.
And I also love what "StormReaver" said, I also TOTALLY AGREE!
HERE HERE!!
That's because the soul has been sucked out by the 100th woman who didn't have the decency to even acknowledge the man who spent 10-15 minutes typing each of those unique mails. Some of us have demanding professional lives, and don't have the time to waste hours every day writing what women treat as electronic toilet paper. Our motivations are usually transformed into efficiencies.
MEN OF THE WORLD UNITE!
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Posted: 11/18/2006 11:50:23 AM | hmmmm
I have seen this happen on ALOT of dating sites which I have unfortunately been a past member of (before I came here to this site, POF). I agree with this man tho, at least he could tell what he was reading, he was SMART enough to realize what was going on!
Good call, man!
so here is what "Pokerman40.2" had to say:
I got a copy and paste message from a women just the other day (my very first copy/paste as near as I could tell).
It read:
Hi sweetie, I read your profile and think your (sic) hot. I'm free tomorrow night. Send me a note at (email address) and if I like what I read, well (sic) hook up.
She was twenty years younger than me and very good looking in a crack addict sort of way. She was also a prostitute. Oh well, just my luck. Her profile was deleted by POF the next day so I couldn't even put her on my favorites list.
So see, us guys get those copy and paste jobs, too.
GOD I HATE THAT, when SPAMMERS (REAL SPAMMERS) send out mass messages as a way of getting you to EMAIL them off-site with your real address in hopes of just getting your address to add to their lists so they can then SPAM YOU WITH MORE SPAM or get you to visit another website which ... get this ... ONLY ENDS UP BEING A PORN XXX webcam site with NO REAL PEOPLE that youi can "get to know" ON IT WHATSOEVER (only anonymous and completely "unknowable" girls ... who are yet amazingly "hot models") and the site ends up being where they are ALL just showing ALL their stuff on webcam ... geezzzzzzzzzz)
GOD I HATE THAT !!!!
I WANT TO KNOW SOMEONE ON THE INSIDE NOT JUST THE OUTSIDE!
and porn spammers on dating sites are a SICK JOKE!!
I think that maybe more dating sites (and maybe POF too) need people to help weed these damn spammers out. SO FAR I have only received 1 spam email from a porn spammer trying to get me to mail them "right away" (a clear sign) about hooking up ... LMAO I mean, come on. 1 woman said she can spot a "copy and paste job a mile away" but US MEN can also spot the porn spammers (not real women but FAKE profiles) right away, also.
So just like women get all the horrible emails and disrespectful "boys" to deal with, us men ALSO get this other stupid S.H.I.T. to deal with, as well. It's all a mixed bag and we ALL have to stick our hand in without seeing what we get!!!
ya know what I also hate? and why I am SO HAPPY about Plenty Of Fish? I LOVE that POF is FREE and does not charge anything EVER! Because I am SICK of all the other dating sites that ONLY CHARGE THE MEN ALOT OF $$$ and NEVER EVER charge any women for ANYTHING!!!! THAT SICKENS MY HEART AND STOMACH!!
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Posted: 11/18/2006 11:52:52 AM | Yep too true:
we are just one click away from being deleted.. there are humans at the end of email!!
I never cut and paste..apart from the odd poem!
Selection Box
Neatly presented ,
All in a row.
Each one wrapped and presented to perfection,
There are so many to choose from,
We each have our favourites-
The soft centres or
Hard as nails,
Or just the nutty ones?
And what do they think of him?
Will the selector be selected?
Or has he bitten off
More than he can chew?
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Posted: 11/18/2006 12:00:19 PM | Sahaja said to Bill, the following:
Yes Bill I did read your post.I stand by what I said. The first email is the one that matters, not the second.
It's all fine and dandy that you sit behind your computers, collect messages from men to feed your cravings for attention,
I certainly don't sit in front of my computer collecting messages to feed a craving for attention. I'm on here to find a DATE. You sound bitter, maybe you don't think women deserve better than a lazy c/p job.
And I have to say ...
The women who DON'T deserve better than a "lazy" (lousy) "c/p job" are the ones who read (or at worst: NEVER read) our 1st emails (even if it was or was not a "copy/paste job") and then DELETE them without even replying back a single word .... GRRRRR THEY DESERVE IT.
the women who are actually NICE and COURTEOUS and CARING and at the least, HUMANE and RESPECTFUL of someone, DESERVE MUCH BETTER and I GIVE as good as I get ... I love writing to a woman i actually enjoy talking with and whom I think I share common interests ... I admit that I AM ALSO a very bitter person BUT ONLY when it comes to women who do such AWFUL THINGS!!! I am just the opposite when i am in the company of someone not only pleasant (at the bare minimum) but with whom I start to feel a vivacious excitement from the sharing of her personality and passions and when the discussions just takes off? I'd give the WORLD for someone to be with me like that ! I think anyone would ?
the sad thing about being online is that "Real" type of experience just cannot happen ... except in real life AND in person .... just another reason why it is SO HARD on here!! even on a free site, the communication barriers are SO THICK we have to be VERY CAREFUL how to conduct ourselves or we will end up making ourselves look very bad (which I have unfortunately done alot of and even I have to repent and AMEND for alot of things)...
I wish more people had morals and knew what REPENTING and AMENDING meant.
Saying "sorry" is never good enough only by itself. People must learn how to "make things better" again, how to HEAL a broken situation and turn the bad into good. How to "make amends" for what they have done, is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT and I believe in it strongly, because it is the only way us imperfect people can get along with each other, especially when we fail and we allow our "bad sides" to show :-(
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Posted: 11/18/2006 12:13:50 PM | Hey.... Anychance I could have thart "carefully" worded generic e-mail
I sent ot 12 resonal e-mails, and had 2 responses.
And the one, it has been about 1 week, and we have been talking on the phone, and even planned a date next sunday.... This site can be great if you put in some effort, well a whole load of effort. But anyway, as you can tell I am not the carefull/good writter, would you mind sendind me that generic e-mail, and perhaps I can eddit it for my needs. Wierd to ask, but it would help, thanks! | |
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Posted: 11/18/2006 12:14:09 PM | Another thing ... I wonder why there aren't MORE women on this thread? I have only seen maybe 1 or 2 actual WOMEN who have been replying on this thread - is it because ALL of the rest of you women actually might feel CONVICTED and maybe GUILTY because of how you have treated some men before? I HOPE SO.
Anyways, this was posted by "greyymatter" back on page 2, but people (read: WOMEN especially) NEED to read it !!!!!
Posted By: greyymatter on 10/20/2006 9  14 PM Subject: Why do men copy/paste Message: --THE HOPELESS DEFENCE: The Defence of the average guy on POF-- Guys, it's very difficult for women to imagine what it is like to be a decent guy on this site. Some of the women here, no offence, really don't have the right perspective. Imagine you are a guy. This is a little more difficult than it first appears, so, let me tell you a story of what normally happens when I write a message: I read the person's profile to get a feel - if I sense a spark, I glance some deal-breaking facts: what city? children? available? Then I read it again. If there's nothing in the profile that inspires me to write her, I'll add her to my favorites to do it another day. To be honest, it is difficult to be inspired sometimes because on many occasions I might think a person is cute, but they didn't say anything or just said "I'll fill this later" so I just add her and continue clicking around. Other days I'll actually do an advance search and work through the list. If I really feel like I have somthing to say I'll spend maybe 15- 20 minutes drafting up a message, but I might not send it till I think it actually has a chance of catching a person's attention - I hate feeling I've "wasted" my chance. They usually weigh in at about 300+ words - depending on how much the other person said in their profile. I usually have more to say, but I'm afraid of looking... I dunno, chatty? Then I send it out and check in on it later that day. Here are some approximate stats: 1/3 - unread deleted 1/3 - read deleted 1/3 - unread (and never will be) Of the "read deleted" ones, about 2/3 of them are delted immediately, while the other third kinda hang in pergatory forever. You don't want to know how many messages I've sent over my time at POV. I can COUNT the number of responses I've had on one hand - and none of them were ever really substantial. I've had two with 3 or 4 lines in them, and the rest were literally one liners. All of them stopped messaging after just a few friendly messages - usually 250 words from me, and one or two lines from them. Now to those women out there that say they refuse to cut and paste, I do understand your view completely. I don't read spam, so why should you? If I were a woman, I'd only want to read real messages from guys that actually spent time on my profile, not some guy that sent the same post to 10 different girls. But if you were a guy who has experiences like this, would you continue to write geniune messages to each and every person you were interested in? Of course you answer, "why yes." Then I ask, would you continue to do that, if after a number of years you get no responses? - maybe you would. And honestly, I do. And for those of you that just thought, "well only an idiot would keep trying after a month...." --- that's EXACTLY what tempts guys into cutting and pasting. In defence of the guys out there that cut and paste, if you're a guy that doesn't tend to attract responses, your odds of getting a response are probably less than 1/100 (that equals 1 response every 16 hours, at 10 minutes a letter). Now, actually I'd be unbelievably happy thinking that in about 50 hours of letter writing, I'll maybe get one response. For me, that's not true. But remember how it'd be nice to write to only those you are truly interested in? If you found one of those individuals every other day, say, it would take you almost a year - just to get a response - that's just a response, not an actual conversation. So guys, on average, how many responses out of 10 become actual dates? - I honestly don't know - tell us! Now, for all teh women out there, if you were a guy, would you follow your own advice and spend 10 minutes or more on every profile you were interested in? I have, and I will admit that it's very tough on a guy knowing that every letter that you've spent time writing will never result in anything - or even be read. It's not a matter of laziness at all (not for all guys, I mean) but practicality - unless you think spending a few years writing dilligently for a few responses should be expected of us. And if any of you think I'm exaggerating, let's see if any guys on here have experienced the same?
damn dude, RIGHT ON !!!! that was another EXCELLENT RESPONSE!!
You have totally echoed ALOT of my same experiences not just on this site but on other dating sites in the past! YOU KNOW HOW IT IS!
HE IS NOT EXAGGERATING NOT EVEN ONE BIT !!!
IT IS SADLY TOO TRUE !!!!
I WISH MORE WOMEN HAD A FREAKIN' CLUE !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 11/18/2006 12:33:16 PM | To "greyymatter": man you are so intelligent ... your replies should be read by women everywhere!!!
The thing is, many don't seem to understand why any reasonable man would be driven to do it. That's what I'm trying to relate - sometimes the tendancy to cut and paste comes from realizing how slim a chance it is that contact will ever be made, so the temptation is to send out more rather than contemplating waiting months or years for a response.
haha - The mentality can get to be like sending signals into space - those aliens might not even be there to hear it, so let's just shoot the signals everywhere and hope for a message back for evidence of life first. (okay, now THAT's an exaggeration, but I'm sure a few can relate lmao!)
On this same note, has anyone ever seen the movie "Contact"? I actually had a sorta-kinda type of date with a VERY, VERY WONDERFUL woman (just a new friend) that I met on THIS VERY website, only a few weeks ago ... where she came over and we watched this movie together :-) (I mention this because she HAD the bravery AND guts AND spontaneity to actually meet me after only our 1st conversation ... but she has such an incredible personality and "air" about her! She is VERY unique and I am SOOOOO glad to have made her my new friend!)
Anyways, that movie is one of my TOP FAVORITE movies of all time, originally written by Carl Sagan himself, about SETI and receiving "signals from outer space" etc etc ...
But, "greyymatter", that was the PERFECT analogy! And THAT IS what it is like, too! ...writing those very 1st emails to a completely new person (woman in my case) like sending a signal out into the void of space, and hoping to (SOMEDAY!!) receive some sort of reply.
Only in their case it was not by a possible romantic partner (friend maybe) and it was only some 37 years later (I think it was) ... before there was ever a reply back from whoever received the signal, somewhere in the star system of Vega lol
I hope that never happens to anyone on here!!
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Posted: 11/18/2006 12:43:55 PM | I can understand some men doing that when they get disheartened, but in the end they are scuppering themselves.
I had a message one day from a man, never got to reply small children occurred and the next two days he sent the same message to me each day.
I call them trawlermen on here cos they aren't fishing they are trawling.
They would do themselves more favours to read a womans profile and then send a message referring to something specific in it in order to get more replies! | |
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Posted: 11/18/2006 12:45:24 PM | OMG...HELLO ..we are all on the " internet " and yes a dating site ...we don't have the same edge if we were to meet ..say in the pub ...so we have to do the best that we can to "ATTRACT" the opposite sex..right...and because of this that is why so many people tell the little white lies that are in there profile ..or don't post a photo ..or just a head shot...
So back to the question of C/P...what is the big deal!!!!!
I look at it this way ..I am trying to draw "Attract " your attention to me ..my profile..just like the 100s of other men that are trying to do the same thing..for most part ..if I write a thoughtful and inteligent message or a C/P message ..the idea is to attract your attention to my profile...just like the ladies that initiate the first message to me are doing ..I think cool , a lady sent me a message ..I read it and then go visit her profile...if I am interested then I will write a nice letter back and probably ask lots of questions...IF I AM NOT interested I always take the time to thank her for the message and suggest that we may not be a good match ...but thanks and hope you find what you are looking for ....
The ladies that really score big with me ..believe it or not are the ones that send me the same reply ..(not a good match)...I know that they think we are not a good match ...but I always smile because they took the time ..FIRST ..to read mine and 2Nd send a reply ..so I always answer there reply and thank them for being honest and curtious enough to reply..and I tell them that the lucky guy that they choose will have a very special lady in their lives... and a few I still talk to now
I sent a lady a message a while back and put her on my favorites because I am interested in talking and getting to know her ......she replied back.....thank you so much for the email and adding me to your favorites..and I am interested in talking and getting to know you also....etc.etc.etc. ..here was the funny part ...she then said well you live on the island , so that is a little ways away from Coquitlam........I laughed and replied nicely and with some humour and used her first name ...sorry but you must have confused me with some other guy or did not read my profile that well because I live in Chilliwack..the mainland like you ..never heard from her again .. hey that is the internet ....the ladies that unread/ delete...not my type I guess and would not have known this unless I sent them that message ...
To sum it up here ...the intial message... does not matter who starts this messaging ....it is to attract us to the person that sent and see if we are interested in talking and getting to know each other..( not a request for a date..or get married..or bed..or become boy friend/ girlfiend etc. ) it is just a message to hopefully get you to read about me/ you and see if we are interested in talking and getting to know each other..I use the favourites also this way ..hoping that you will check me out and of course like what you have seen and read ..that's it ..simple .....other sites have smiles , winks, etc. to attract each other..another real important aspect to this internet dating is ..."TIMING" a lot of people that were not interested in me ....the first message....(timing thing ..could have been connecting with someone ) and a month down the road will reply ..why ??? because of the TIMING...they have moved on maybe and are searching again...the connection (s) did not work out ..my 2 cents ... | |
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 12:49:09 PM | The "copy and paste" thing just may the guys' way of using the "more bait, the better" approach. Maybe, if he gets a bite, then he gets creative?
But, why is it that regardless of the subject of the thread, the posts become a bashfest between the sexes? | |
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 12:53:52 PM |
Posted By: EastSideEddie on 10/21/2006 11  13 AM Subject: Why do men copy/paste Message: If I know I will be emailing several people on my friends list just to touch base after not writing for a while I will cut and paste the framework of a message so I don't have to type it 10 times, but each will then get personalized from there.
That is what I do, too. I use a general framework that tells a little about me and what I am looking for and then I personalize it just a little bit to show that I DID actually look at them fairly well (hehehe) and that I DID read their ENTIRE profile!
That isn't really what you are talking about though and I understand what you men. I get those first emails mainly from women who place some importance on seeing how many fave lists they get on.
wow! There are women that actually DO that? that is SO sickening!!!
dang!!! I have never heard of that before but now that disgusts me :-(
I may have a big favorites list but I have only written to less than 35% of them so far! The other 65% are women I have also found attractive and interesting but whom I have not been sure what to write to them yet ... SOME people DEFINITELY DO deserve enough of my own "exerted life-force" to be approached in a warm or very generous and thoughtful, if not witty ... manner! :-) So I wait in some cases before I can collect all my thoughts and feelings together about something before I contact someone in my (rather extensive) favorites list.
There are two who live near each other and are apparently in a contest because they are both on over 700 faves and growing every day. Both extremely attractive, both with photos that enhance and accentuate their beauty without being slutty.
hmmmm if they're hot enough, then I wish I was the mailman or milkman on THAT block LOL Seriously however, I wonder what in the heck gets into some women's minds!!!! And if that is how they ACTUALLY BEHAVE (based on how they think, on their inside) then that is VERY MUCH NOT attractive to me AT ALL ... when a woman has behave that way. UGGH! YUCK! I'll PASS!!
How do I know it was nothing to take seriously?
If this woman has her pick of over 700 faves, why does she write to some fat ugly guy who is more than 20 years older than her?
Yep. Many grains of salt here.
700 !??!? holy shikeys, I don't think I have even 50 on my favorites list?!? I think I would get totally lost with 700?!? I think that is just a wee bit INSANE! I mean, are they THAT SLUTTY that they are interetested in THAT MANY MEN? But I have to digress, and yet ADMIT that I am no better than they. I am probably WORSE, actually! LOL So, I can kinda relate to it, being that I OFTEN feel like: "ahhh! SO MANY beautiful women in the world and so little time" (and the EXTREMELY SAD FACT that EACH of those women ONLY wants their 1 "man" to only be with, and to ONLY WANT: them - ugggh!! I might seem odd or wrong to many people for saying this, but MY OWN realization is just the opposite of alot of people: in this day and age, monogamy (especially concerning men) is one of the BIGGEST relationship killers :-( But that is a lamentation for another future post...)
One woman from Ontario last year sent me a PRICE LIST!!!! (She's long gone now.)
whoah dude, a "price list"?!? what was the meaning of that??? why would any woman (or any gender/PERSON for that matter) send you a "PRICE LIST" ? For what?
I don't understand ??? | |
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 1:03:12 PM |
Hmmm...maybe I should compile a database of first contact responses, and automate sending them out based on keywords found in profiles scraped from an automated trolling of the forums. I could write a program that determines the relative good looks of a picture, and send a message on a sliding scale basis of the calculated result. Then I could just sit back and let the babes roll in, all without lifting a finger (if you don't count the ten years spent writing the software) -muahaha-.
ROFLMAO!!! hahahahahahaha!!! Why didn't I think of that?!?!? dang, and SO MUCH TIME!!!! ALLLLLLLLL of this time ... that I have actually spent investing in writing REAL ORIGINALLY-composed, UNIQUE emails (after the first contact conversation has began, anyways ...) to women trying to AT LEAST gain new friends!!!
hahahahahahaha!!!!
If only I knew more about Artificial Intelligence and if only I were a REAL, learned programmer (I have only begun to learn PERL programming after much usage of BASIC in my teens and 20s)... I DO joke, yes, but that was a very interesting and funny response! Now he's made me think .... (insert a very evil "Muuu-hahahahahaha!!" of my own, here LOLLLL) | |
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 11/18/2006 1:11:33 PM | This post is ONLY directed towards Pamela1's comments and not to anyone else.
I don't know her, but I have to say this ... because this is a good example why some people might copy and paste when writing an email to a person (at least on the first try).
Posted By: Pamela1 on 10/21/2006 2:19 PM
Subject: Why do men copy/paste
Message: I have had guys send me the same message with the same cut and paste to me TWICE! lol It goes to the tune of: I saw your profile and you are the most beautiful woman on this site yada yada and I crack up because it is word for word the previous cut and paste they sent you a month ago and they FORGOT they sent it to you. I guess there is junk mail and junk email! lol
hmmmm well in your case, not to be insulting, but you did not write hardly much of ANYTHING in your profile. I think I counted all of 4 sentences in your entire profile ?!?!
Did you change your profile recently, since the last time you replied here?
because, it is extremely minimal! and here it is:
I am a 42 year old woman who is very attractive, honest,easy going and I have a great sense of humor. I am interested in talking to someone that is also honest and likes to have fun and enjoy life. If this sounds interesting, drop me a line!
First Date
I enjoy on a first date a nice dinner so we can chat and get to know each other and go from there.
now REALLY!! how could THAT "sound interesting" ?!?!?
Can you "honest"-ly actually EXPECT??? ANYTHING... OTHER than spam (or what appears to be spam?) from those who write you, when you BARELY write anything about yourself? EVERYONE LIKES TO HAVE FUN! duh! and of course you LOOK attractive, but there is hardly anything about your MIND, YOUR HEART, or YOUR PERSONALITY ... or anything ELSE SUBSTANTIAL (yet still fit for public eyes/reading) about YOUR LIFE ... in that profile! I REALLY hope that you write more about yourself to those whom you contact or to those whom contact you ... because to someone trying to write you, it would probably seem necessary to use what would seem like a "form letter" (a copy and paste job) just to write you because they don't have MUCH TO GO ON in the first place ?!?!?!
GEEZ !!! lol
I have seen TONS of profiles by women on this site that have EVEN LESS THAN THAT in them (some had no words at all, just a silly icon) and while I have still written them in my usual OR approach or a unique email, I cannot even understand why they act like this ... complaining about spam or too many emails that sound the same, when they haven't even put forth much in the way of effort towards their OWN profile themselves... :-(
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