| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 9/20/2007 6:51:26 PM | I agree 100%. Lets look at it this way. I want to communicate and the first email is just to make sure you have a good connection. Most of the time the connection just drops off at the womans end. So why waste the time to tell them anything if they aren't going to listen. First I get their attention and if they like what they see and read in my profile, hopefully they respond and we can communicate several times. Remember women, men like what they see and that means they are interested in you. I think some woman want some romantic letter the first one out and he doesn't even know her. De-de-de Thats why we have email and chat.
I find it crazy that women want to communicate but they can even respond back. I think a yes or a no would be appropriate. Anyway that is probably why some smart men copy and paste. | |
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 9/20/2007 7:10:41 PM | Wonen don't respond for as many reasons as there are women here or anywhere else.
The copy/paste is the most obvious. And read the threads where women send a polite no thanks...not interested...not in those words...and get called every name in the book. And some we've never heard before.
Thing is, none of you guys have been a woman here, so you don't know the nasty responses we get from being...oh well...honest. Not playing games or leading you on..but telling you in the nicest way possible...it's not gonna happen.
The supposed great/nice guys go to mysognist women haters in a click. It happens...hasn't happened to me that much but it did. And it did make me hesitant to be honest and truthful. Funny thing that...all the guys' profiles were supposed looking for an honest truthful woman...yeah right.
So it goes both ways. Just realize that in internet "dating" such as it is, it happens a lot to women. Not right, not fair, but it IS reality. I've also had most often, a response thanking me for being honest and actually writing back.
So for women it's a toss of the coin.. idiot who's going to trash me, or someone who really does appreciate honesty.
Don't be mad at the women, I don't blame any of them for it....just realize it does happen more often than you may think. How to solve it...I have NO idea!! And I'm being honest saying that!! | |
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 9/20/2007 7:19:12 PM | Thanks for a fast response.. I think you got a point. I am not one of those guys. I believe ladies should be treated like a lady unless they get out of hand and turn into a  . I know guys can be just as bad of a . I think alot of guys can be bad because they can't control themselves. They shouldnt be on here ruining for all the rest of us. | |
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 9/20/2007 8:56:24 PM | | If I see several women with similiar profiles, I would cut and paste. But before I would send the email, I would change a few phrases or sentences and add something that only applies to that particular woman. | |
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Posted: 9/21/2007 8:17:38 AM | It didn't matter if I wrote something original, witty, and sincere, or used a carefully crafted generic email. The response rate was about the same - i.e., poor! The goal was always to get the woman to read my profile and respond if interested. I would only write her because I actually read her profile and was interested.
Since most of my contact attempts received no response regardless of how or what I wrote, there was no benefit in putting much effort into making contact other than generically. Eventually I stopped initiating contact altogether, and let the women contact me if interested. That actually worked far better, and I DID respond to all contacts - there was a fairly steady stream of interest, but not so much I couldn't respond to everyone. Few panned out, anyway. I didn't have the overwhelming problem some women have, and that's a good thing! Besides, if they're too busy to search and contact me, then it is highly unlikely they'd take time to read or respond to an email from me, no matter how well written.
So, copy/paste is a good way to contact women, if the content is informative, carefully written, and designed to get them to read your profile. Even better is to not initiate contact, and wait to hear from them! | |
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Posted: 9/21/2007 8:29:18 AM |
But seriously, while I do sometimes use a message "template", I have never copied and pasted an entire email, word for word, to someone. I do usually have a basic email with facts about myself (which as one post here stated, don't change) that I use as a starting point. I always mention something specific when talking about why I wrote to that particular woman, whether its her picture, or more often, something she wrote in her profile or a post that was thought provoking and caught my attention.
Yeah, that's basically what I do; I have the standard e-mail about myself, which I copy and paste, but then I adjust it to the specifics of the woman's profile.
For example, I change my opening sentence to something that caught my eye about her profile, such as a common interest. If she has a specific concern, I add something about how that relates to me. If her profile talks about travel, I expand on where I've traveled and whether I've been to places she's mentioned. I say I'm Jewish but not very religious, but if she's Jewish too, I get into specifics about what I do and don't observe. | |
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Posted: 9/21/2007 9:49:45 AM | | WoW! you can do that? ~ Humm ~ just don't seem right somehow ~ kinda a mass mailer! ~ If I was a woman ~ I'd not like that, ~ a one size fits all thingy. ~ Lame ~dar | |
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Posted: 9/21/2007 10:15:55 AM |
but hows "hi im such and such i like your profile. and comment on something in her profile.if she has anything in her profile. would you care to chat?"so bad?
No, those are the kinds of emails I like to get. Provided that they come from someone remotely near me and remotely near my own age! | |
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Posted: 9/21/2007 10:32:00 AM | I don't see what the big deal is to be honest.
If it's a good email, it's a good email. It doesn't stop being a good email if it's sent to one person or a hundred people.
I think the answer lies somewhere in the middle. I think a good stock email is a great idea. I also think making small tweaks on it based on a specific profile is a good idea too. It's ok to start with something generic, not sure it's a great thing to have the end result be something generic.
Whether you copy or paste or not, a woman is probably going to respond based on whether she likes the way you look, if your career and the perception of your monetary/socioeconomic status meets her approval, and you are geographically close enough to where she can imagine enjoying both things.
The entire idea of having a profile is to get to the point and save time. You can't take the advantages of that without taking the drawbacks that other people want to save time when they deal with you as well.
This entire issue comes down to women wanting to feel unique and special, even from men she probably doesn't want to date. Attention is universally pleasing to women, they want it their way all the time even if it means a tedious and complicated path for men to trudge through.
The way I see it, a woman who is offended by anyone who copies and pastes is proof positive why men do it in the first place. | |
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Posted: 9/21/2007 4:37:47 PM | | If someone copies and pastes the bio information after putting a personal note in the top of the message to show that he's read the profile, I suppose I would not mind that so much because the guy took a moment to write something directly to me. Although I would MUCH rather get a short, to the point note that is real, original and not mass emailed to a bunch of other women. Paste/copy is a turnoff and doesn't score any points in my book. | |
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Posted: 9/21/2007 5:47:31 PM | I really don't understand this. I just want to know how much time in average a typical women spend to just search profiles and give a click on them. I would say that is almost zero in average. There are women who spend time to search and message but those generally belong to the group who receive less attention. There are women who are looking for their own taste and they search and message independent of number of message they receive, but they are minority. So as a result I don't understand what is all these complains about? You can either wait to receive many junk messages a day and later complaining about the fact that they are copy/paste OR start your own search to find your own taste.
Moreover, I would like to ask women that how much time they spend to answer a reasonable message to those whom they are not interested which requires reading their profiles and finding a reasonable reasons and typing a nice but cruel message. Nothing, they just read+delete your message.
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Posted: 9/21/2007 9:02:50 PM | | Every email I ever sent to a woman here was a unique and individual email for that particular woman in regards to something I read on her profile, either something I liked or something or some interest we had in common. That kind of email was how I would initiate a conversation and not with an invitation to hook up. That's how I would like to be treated, so it was simple for me to figure it out. Sometimes I heard back, sometimes I didn't. | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 12:58:23 AM | I'm on a couple of other social sites that have an option for 'just friends', as this one does.
I specify in those profiles that I'm NOT there for dating, but just for making some friends. I even went so far as to describe myself as frumpy, disorganized and very very insecure & emotionally intense, bordering on paranoid.
I'm getting MAIL, LOTS of it, and the letters are consistently from guys who are telling me how much they like me from my profile .. that I'm so sweet and beautiful and they want to have a serious relationship with me so would I please email their private addresses (which, weirdly enough, all seem to be YAHOO.com!!!) ...
Tell me those aren't copy-paste messages. Do they read my blurb?? Stupid question, eh.
Otherwise I might want to try that here; I'm getting so much attention on those sites!
Maybe it's one person playing tricks on me.
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:09:59 AM |
If you were in a bar and a person was not interested in you - would you insist that they had a conversation with you?
Why do people always use bar scenarios to justify their actions? I thought everyone wasn't "into" the bar scene!
In answer to your question: No, I wouldn't expect someone in a bar to have a conversation with me, if she wasn't interested in me. But, I'd feel pretty stupified if she totally ignored me, didn't at least say, "Thanks, but no thanks."
Reply to emails, or don't. It's your absolute right to do as you please. Reply to one, don't reply to the next. That's also entirely your right.
!Les | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:44:33 AM |
I hate copied and pasted messages. I have actually written back to the goobers who do this ...
There you have it, guys: the copy-and-paste messages DO get replies!
!Les | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 6:57:43 AM | | Copy and paste is the last refuge of the brain dead and desperate. Am I going to reply to someone who treats me as one of his 'mail shots'? No - cos I am not as desperate as him. How many messages is he sending out for heavens sake? And does this 'can't be bothered' attitude reflect the effort he puts into OTHER things? Doesn't look good does it... | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:00:48 AM | I don't think I have ever done this. But I usually say more in my actions than words. As far as introductory emails, it's like being in the grocery story, see a nice looking lady say hi trying to start a conversation and she blows you off.
So why waist "my" time with a stuck up that will not read my profile. It works both ways. Lot of singles are a dime a dozen, the true ladies and gentlemen are a rare find. | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:01:21 AM | Trust me Sahaja....the ratio is something like 8 to 1 for guys to girls. I'm lucky to get 10% responses, and that's if I REALLY try.
It's a fact I read in newspapers a year ago. | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:06:33 AM | The best that I have seen is a copy and paste insult, telling me all the reasons that I am single. I replied and thanked him for his message of enlightenment. I didn't bother asking if the same reasons applied to his marital status. My profile says that I reply to all messages, so he got a reply.
I mentioned receiving it one day to a female pof friend and she had received the same one, on the same day. Seems he felt the need to blitz a few local ladies. too funny.
Severl weeks later, he spammed us again.. exact same message, with a few more nasties added in.. Anyone want to guess where he ended up?.... | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:23:57 AM | Who cares if one copies and pastes.....I write creatively, with wit and humour, about my stats and what I like to do....So many times the ladies call me out for copying and paste-ing, because they think they are literary experts; When in reality a lot of the ladies don't even write more than a sentence back to you....or ask/answer any questions....I just laugh....You can't take it seriously...this is like fishing (POF)...you're not going to always land that fish....It's a numbers game...Cheers!! Mates!!! I've said my piece and now I'm outtie like a belly-button...       
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:27:30 AM | HI JERRY, COPY /PASTE,READS THERE R MORE MEN THAN WOMEN ON SITE,ERGO STANDARD SAME 4 ALL. EA PERSON IS AN INDIDUAL DON'T YOU THINK? AS 4 FEMALES WHO DELETE WITHOUT ANSWERING AN EM ARE NOT WORTH YOUR TIME IN THE FIRST PLACE.QUITE RUDE OF THEM,UNCARING COLD INDIVIDUALS.YOUR BETTER THAN THAT KIND OF TREATMENT .WE ALL DESERVE A RESPONSE. WE ARE ALL HUMAN WITH HEART I HOPE.  ::  | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:29:00 AM | Next question, why do people type in all caps? I think this one has been covered...  | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:32:47 AM | Maybe some men do this. Or maybe a lot of men do this. I don't really know.
I've never copy/pasted a message. Every one is specific to the woman I've written. But in the two years or so I've been on here I've only messaged, maybe, 20 - 30 w0men. A few have responded.
My headline used to read "fishing with a hook, not a net". I prefer the "hook" approach over the "net" approach. I'm not looking to find just somebody. I'm looking for a very specific person. A net will catch anything in the vicinity without regard to what's there. A hook will catch just a single fish. Tuna, scrod, seaweed, flotsom and jetsom.
With a hook, if the fish isn't interested in the bait, she'll ignore it. If she's interested, she'll bite, or maybe just nibble to see if she's still interested. If she isn't interested, she'll swim away. If she bites, I'll pull her up. If she isn't legal, I'll throw her back. If she isn't what I was looking for, I'll throw her back. She will then have the chance to nibble on someone else's hook. Hopefully, she will not get caught in someone's net.
A while back, I saw this shiny lure in the water. It was bright and looked interesting. I swam over to it and bit at it. It hooked me and grabbed me and pulled me up. The owner of the bait reeled me in and kept me. So far, I'm happily swimming in her private pond. Hopefully I can stay here. It's a nice, private pond; warm and cozy.
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:35:34 AM | | I get ALOT of them, and I figured if they couldn't sit down and write me a personal email ( and it really obvious when they are copied and pasted) I don't waste my time except when I get annoyed by a comment that they make that didn't even come from my profile. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who noticed this!! | |
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