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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:40:48 AM | hi zentral, even better not 2 contact a fem? what century r u living in.males should a;ways do the first step. old fashioned ? not really just b polite gentlemen is all most fems ask .most of the guys r just not interested unless u place sex as your first priority as they do. call me old fashioned but dates,friendship,getting to know ea other are so inportant..,all this seems 2 b forgotten in this fast paced life we lead.ROMANCE.CARING ETC. WHERE IS IT??? FOR TAKING THE TIME 2 READ THIS.THAT IS IF ANY1 DOES.,LOL | |
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| Why do men copy/paste
Posted: 10/6/2007 9:46:23 AM | Yeah life is so fast we dont have time to spell check, or even look back at what we have posted, its a sad world nowadays....  | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 10:36:58 AM |
Yeah life is so fast we dont have time to spell check, or even look back at what we have posted, its a sad world nowadays....
Yes, it is too bad. 2 b or not 2 b, that is the ? (Isn't it wonderful how saying less with less is actually more?) | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 2:06:35 PM | ok farfus, that's twice now you've picked on M.Viki's message. Not only that, but you forgot an apostrophe.
(in grade school when a boy made fun of a girl, it meant he liked her.)
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Posted: 10/6/2007 2:27:12 PM | | I don't copy/ paste .I do like Paistes (for drummers ) though,lol. | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 3:16:08 PM | Well I can not say for every one but my self. For me reason i Copy and past is the fact that after 8 months of making it unique i found that, 1/3 dont even read it they just go right to your profile and delete, another 1/3 just leave it sit there Unread, the other 1/3 read it but..... only about 1/3 of them acualy reply, the others either leve it sit there till the server deletes it or they delete it. so it comes to about 1/10 women will read it and reply to them.
I change mine up about every 10 posts, or if I realy liked there profile.
I had one women unread and delete my message, but sent me a different message saying that se don't date guys who tuck in there shirt. I have only one pic lol. Alot of women i find on here seem to look for minor things they dont like, and skip every thing els. | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 4:06:19 PM |
The question I hear from women on here is "why do men copy/paste the same message to multiple women". Here's the answer: When there are tons more men than woman, and women read/delete emails without replying, men send out mass messages in hopes of getting a few replies.
I never do that. I personally write each message to every woman I email. I try to bring up things we both have in common and anything else she mentioned...so she knows I read her profile.
Why else would I have complained in that other topic about women who put very little? Makes it harder for me to write a decent email to her.  | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 4:28:32 PM | ^^^Hi Chitown, I wish more guys were like you, willing to take the time to write a personal note. I don't blame you for complaining about someone who writes very little in the profile. When I do a search and I view a profile with very little on it, I end up skipping past it.
Guys who copy/paste are wasting their time. Women don't want to receive that kind of junk in their email.
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Posted: 10/6/2007 5:19:06 PM | "Hi Chitown, I wish more guys were like you, willing to take the time to write a personal note."
I wish more women were like him too! | |
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Posted: 10/7/2007 3:54:34 AM | | If each person is unique/different, then sending the same mail to all still makes this communication unique. Think it through! | |
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Posted: 10/7/2007 6:15:21 AM | Hmmm... If I get a message from someone looking for a one legged mountain goat in Transylvania, I can't help harbouring a teeny, weeny suspicion that they didn't actually read my profile. Strangely unimpressive! It wouldn't be so bad if they started, 'I am actually looking for a one legged mountain goat in Transylvania but....'
But hey - bring it on! If someone says 'Hey, I really like your profile, wanna chat?' I ask him what it was he liked about my profile. Sorts out the men from the boys that one..... | |
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Posted: 10/7/2007 6:32:45 AM | "I ask him what it was he liked about my profile. Sorts out the men from the boys that one....."
That question is a very psychoanalytical one and implies that the guy is into psychology etc etc. Not a litmus test between "boys" and "men".
Most "men" would reply, IMO, "the whole profile (package)". Does a POFer expect an interested POFer to do a word by word analysis of a profile he (or she) likes. Maybe SOME women like to do that. But that is their "trait". And a potential red flag for a rel!
Funnily, when I have ventured to ask very "serious" women who contacted me the same question, I found them unable to come up with a convincing reply. So, one has to ask what one is also willing to do, too!
That of course does not apply to POFers who only wait to be contacted and do nto venture a contact themselves, I guess.
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Posted: 10/7/2007 9:00:18 AM | | Nick, you might be correct technically, but I think it is still a bad idea to send a cut and paste message. Most people react more favorably to a message that shows you at least read their profile. | |
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Posted: 10/7/2007 9:27:41 AM | If someone can't be bothered to read my profile, I don't feel obligated to acknowledge him either.
Most of the time I do anyway, even if just to say 'no thank you'.
To those of you fellows who state you've spent time drafting a good email and that it's frustrating to have it ignored: the same goes for a profile. Why should I care about your crap shoot to nab somebody if you can't take the few minutes to see what I put time and energy into composing?
I'm more than just my picture. If you stop checking there and try to get a response from me ~ without reading ABOUT ME, all you demonstrate is a lack of uniqueness. Ya, that's flattering. It shows you won't appreciate MY uniqueness.
For the record, guys, I'M one lady who will sometimes send the first email. However, I would never do that without finding out what kind of person you are.
You are, after all, more than just your picture, and I'd like to think you can tell I spent the time reading what you say about yourself! I craft my letter based on what your profile tells me. There'll be no confusion about who was to receive what I sent you: I try to make some remark about a trait: a pet, occupation, interest, etc.. so you know it's NOT a copy-pasted form letter bulked to get whatever I can. | |
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Posted: 10/7/2007 1:04:37 PM | re post 163:
It is very feasible to create a "cut and paste" text that applies to most profiles.
Reading a profile is one thing, using specific info from it to quote in a mail is something I do, but the issue is "cut and paste" texts and all I am saying is that they are not as "bad" as some posters purport them to be. Some profile "inspire" you to write a specific note and some, while interesting, give you the impression and you should not invest grey matter for a special mail until you have some indication that it is worth the time spent (probability of reply, see "cost/benefit analysis").
A clever "icebreaker" (cut and paste) mail with a well done PROFILE to go with it is a better communication strategy than a "thesis" mail with a generic and shallow profile.
IRL, is "hi, how are you" with a smile a "cut and past" opening line? Online, the "smile" is the PROFILE one attaches, IMO (photos and all).
PLUS: Investing too much time to over-analyse the profile of a woman who has not yet expressed an interest in you could theoretically be considered a form of "stalking" (lol) Once she has, it is justified!!! lol lol lol Think of the IRL equivalents!
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Posted: 10/7/2007 2:09:27 PM | That's ridiculous. Writing a message that shows the guy read my profile rather than sending a dumb copy/paste is NOT stalking!! Copy/paste is lame and a turnoff. I actually write back to tell the twerp that he was too lazy to write a real note to me that I could tell it was a copy/paste and that I am turned off by such bogus correspondence. I want the real McCoy, not some stupid note that only demonstrates how lazy the guy is. Laziness is a turnoff!!!
It is NOT feasible to write a copy paste that fits all profiles. That is an insult to the intelligence of the women on this site. I can tell if a letter is copy paste or a genuine original. | |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 10:25:01 AM | some, while interesting, give you the impression and you should not invest grey matter for a special mail until you have some indication that it is worth the time spent (probability of reply, see "cost/benefit analysis").
Nick, I don't understand this comment at all. If you don't want to "invest grey matter" then why write the woman at all?
If she has something in her profile that interests you, then write a personalized note. I do. If you were out IRL and said "Hi, how are you?" and kept walking, would you expect a response? Probably not. And isn't a copy/paste letter about the same thing? If you were truly interested, again IRL, wouldn't you stop, and say something specific to her? "That's a nice dress" or "You have a nice smile" or something like that?
Sure, even with personalized messages, I often don't get a reply. But that's likely because there is nothing about me that interests her. But I think I could guarantee even fewer responses if I sent a form letter. I would not respond favorably to one, and I wouldn't expect a woman to do so, either.
PLUS: Investing too much time to over-analyse the profile of a woman who has not yet expressed an interest in you could theoretically be considered a form of "stalking"
You completely lost me here. What is this supposed to mean? Stalking? I don't think so.
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Posted: 10/9/2007 10:41:26 AM | Re the prev 2 posts:
"That's ridiculous. Writing a message that shows the guy read my profile rather than sending a dumb copy/paste is NOT stalking!!
Says who?
"Copy/paste is lame and a turnoff"
If it looks like one!
"I actually write back to tell the twerp that he was too lazy to write a real note to me that I could tell it was a copy/paste and that I am turned off by such bogus correspondence."
Hm! No comment (needed)!
"I want the real McCoy, not some stupid note that only demonstrates how lazy the guy is."
I will be a gent and not retort on that!
"Laziness is a turnoff!!!"
So are many other things. But these are subjective views.
Sending a mail is not lazy. Not sending mails and waiting for a man to mail, is, IMO pf course!
"It is NOT feasible to write a copy paste that fits all profiles. That is an insult to the intelligence of the women on this site"
I did not say THAT. I said "It is very feasible to create a "cut and paste" text that applies to most profiles." MOST not all! Somebody mentioned "insult"?
"Most" not all! And then some people claim to read profiles or demand to have their profiles read! Right!
It is an observation on/re the un-originality of MOST profiles, not an insult to the people themselves. So pleez spare us the .....!
"I can tell if a letter is copy paste or a genuine original"
a) Wanna bet?
b) This is a dating site, not a writing competition for original writing or a pitch to get an advertising account!!!
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"some, while interesting, give you the impression and you should not invest grey matter for a special mail until you have some indication that it is worth the time spent (probability of reply, see "cost/benefit analysis")"
"Nick, I don't understand this comment at all. If you don't want to "invest grey matter" then why write the woman at all?"
Well, I do not have the space and time to explain, but look up "marketing 101" and "finance 101".
"If she has something in her profile that interests you, then write a personalized note. I do. If you were out IRL and said "Hi, how are you?" and kept walking, would you expect a response? Probably not. And isn't a copy/paste letter about the same thing? If you were truly interest, again IRL, wouldn't you stop, and say something specific to her?"
I would and do say "Hi, how are you?". I wait for a reply before I continue!! SAME thing I propose for online!!
"You completely lost me here. What is this supposed to mean? Stalking? I don't think so."
Did anyone notice my tongue in my cheek? One would, IRL.
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Posted: 10/9/2007 10:48:09 AM |
I would and do say "Hi, how are you?". I wait for a reply before I continue!! SAME thing I propose for online!!
And how is that working for you? How many women respond to that other than, perhaps, "Fine."? Does it generally generate conversation? I'm guessing the percentages are rather low.
Did anyone notice my tongue in my cheek? One would, IRL.
Nope, didn't notice. I guess I wasn't looking.
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Posted: 10/9/2007 10:55:47 AM | "And how is that working for you? How many women respond to that other than, perhaps, "Fine."? Does it generally generate conversation? I'm guessing the percentages are rather low."
That is for me to know and for the fellow poster to find out, should he try that approach too, instead of criticise it!
Actually, they are quite high, much higher than one would think. Because maybe many women like a casual like IRL approach (and look at the attached profile).
All I said, for those who kept up with the core of my syllogism, is that a GOOD profile can do the job and the mail does not have to win a Pulitzer prize!
Cheers
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Posted: 10/9/2007 10:57:23 AM | | Yes. Men do cut and paste. Women might, too, but since I only have experiences with MEN, that's all I can speak for. I had a man message me on here, and, he messaged a friend of mine. Same exact message. Total cut and paste. I thought it was kind of amusing... :) | |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 1:24:58 PM | I said it before and i'll say it again. Cut and pastes are often obvious, and don't go over well with women. If you don't mind getting them all deleted and basically finding almost no-one, keep right on cutting and pasting.
Men who don't want to read profiles and/or send out personal e-mails to women they have specific interest in aren't desirable men by most women. If you feel that all women are the same, and it doesn't make any difference to put an effort in, you're exactly the ones we want to avoid. Makes it easier to spot you all and move on. | |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 1:35:51 PM | | I beg to differ, I say a few words, like "if you are interested let me know," works for meBy reading all these forums I would say 1% of men are desirable here on this site, good luck fellas...we will need it!!!! | |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 1:44:15 PM |  FACT, you want to drive yourself into depression FAST???
Write a bunch of letters,if you want action,take part in The FORUMS...
You can inverst allot of time and emotion writing Letters and recieve NOTHING for your effort...
On the other hand you can post in a forum and thousands of people will read it, if a Gal is looking for a guy like you?
Then she will write to you...
NOW YOU HAVE SOMETHING GOING!!!
The other way around is like shooting bats on a No Moon night,you may never know if you hit anything or not...
Then again,I've been playing this game for decades... | |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 1:50:15 PM | | I feel your pain...I also like the analogy^^^^^^^and yes the forums work so much better for meeting people. | |
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