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Posted: 9/28/2009 5:40:07 PM | You know IV, this is getting us nowhere. We are going to disagree on this point. I respect your opinion if you respect mine. But to answer a couple of your comments, here goes:
i dont understand why you would equate a women who chooses prostitution with a drug dealer or a sex offender? First of all, it is ILLEGAL, just as selling drugs or being an aggressor sexually. I was only using the drug dealer and sex offender to illustrate my point. We ALL make judgements with regards to who we date. Certain you IV, don't date every single guy who asks you out. So you must have your own personal reasons for rejecting them. For me, an ex-prostitute is someone I would never trust, not would I ever care so share intimacy with. Its that simple.
The prostitute does no harm to society.
You and many others like you try to shove statistics to back up what you feel is just and right. Thats fine and dandy. But think about what you are saying. If you are a mother, or a sister, or an aunt and your loved-one came up to you and ask you if you thought is was ok for her to be a prostitute, how would you advise them? It does no harm to society? What about the family unit? If every woman decides to go into "business" for herself, can you imagine what kind of world we would live in? I know I couldn't, but again, thats me.
yes i would date an ex fellon, with the exception of a murderer or sex offender. Why not? If they saw the errors of their ways, why would you not give them a second chance? They deserve second chances don't they?
IV, this is a good debate, but I believe its at a stalemate. You aren't going to convince me just as I'm not going to convince you. We'll have to respect each other, I hope and agree to disagree.    | |
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Posted: 9/28/2009 6:36:46 PM | Dude, do you like the lady? if so, it's not about the past; rather about the future! Dude, don't let all these people ruin you for a person who may have made some mistakes in her life. Should she pay the rest of her life for mistakes made? Keep it REAL!
Have you ever made a mistake? No matter how little or how small, have you ever made a mistake? have you ever made the wrong choice? ever felt like you need to pay for that for the rest of your life?
Dude for real, think about that for a second... Everything you ever done that was wrong, do you need to pay for it forever? | |
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Posted: 9/29/2009 3:35:35 AM | im sure we all know girls who have sex like a prostitute but just dont get paid for it. at least shes smart enough to get her nails and hair did for the rugburns.
I myself would never have sex with a prostitute.. so why the hell would i wanna date an ex prostitute.. not just for the fact shes bangin johns in a dumpster behind Denny's. but that lifestyle doesnt breed to many girls that dont come out of it with severe mental and emotional issues. Baggage im not willing to claim. | |
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Posted: 9/29/2009 10:02:55 PM | | Yes, I have, and I did. Hard to get used to. My biggest problem ws, when we had money problems she was always offering to go make some "easy money." Lasted less than a year. (and for those that read my other post, it was not my ex that confessed her history.) | |
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Posted: 9/30/2009 3:51:14 AM | My biggest problem was, when we had money problems she was always offering to go make some easy money . Inego Montoya: Thank you for making my point. Thats how I've felt about it too. To me, a man's pride would be a stake here. You mention easy money, well to me it is easy money. What could be easier and if the truth be told, I wish we guys could make a buck that "easily", and I don't want to hear from women how they don't really enjoy sex and its just a "job" because I think you'd be stretching the truth. Sex is supposed to be an activity to be enjoyed equally by both sexes. I believe that was the intention.
Basically, with what a woman has between her legs, she can go into "business" very easily, anytime she wants, as there seems to be an unending line of desperate men who are willing to lay down their hard-earned (or otherwise earned) money for her "services". I use the word desperate, because to me, its a matter of having self control. As I see it, once the option of being "in business" is in a woman's blood, and she has exercised that option, I would think it would be very hard to resist when times get tough or she just needs to make some extra money. This is NOT a Moral issue. Morality has nothing to do with it. Actually, its more of an economic issue. Its supply and demand. Since there are significantly more men looking for NSA sex, the demand is high and the supply of available women who are into NSA sex is significantly lower. Therefore, the women who go into this "business" capitalize on these men. Thank goodness there are women who choose not to exercise this option. This would be the kind of woman that I would want in my life.
I've had some say to me that with what I am saying, it says a lot about me. I'm not sure what they mean. But I will ask this: Is there anything I am saying here that is not true? I am NOT sharing the women in my life, the woman I am intimate with, with any other man. Call me selfish, call me an egotist, but to me, it is and always will be a matter of pride. Some of you will never see it that way, and I will never convince you of this, but you will never convince me otherwise. | |
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Posted: 9/30/2009 7:49:41 PM | Basically, with what a woman has between her legs, she can go into "business" very easily, anytime she wants, as there seems to be an unending line of desperate men who are willing to lay down extra money.
^^^I totally agree greg. And if she's struggling to make ends meet, this would be a good oppurtunity for her. LMAO | |
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Posted: 9/30/2009 8:33:46 PM | | Just say no to prostitutes. I don't think most prostitutes will totally give up their profession unless you give them everything they want. It's a lifestyle they got into that may be hard to get out of like drugs or alcohol, even if it's not good for you, and there is money to be made. Sometimes it's easy money that is hard to resist. | |
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Posted: 9/30/2009 11:56:32 PM | I have dated strippers in the past....
But I would not even fukc a protitute. Much less date one.
I couldn't do it. I'm far too unapologetically picky and territorial.
I like good girls who have a freaky side. Not girls who have let their freakiness define who they are as a person.
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Posted: 10/1/2009 12:25:16 AM | ^^^ Huh?
Lolololololololololol
Underlying this issue is fear of women who have sexual power.
WHAT?!? Lolololol.
Btw, dont worry soldier, i dont think many of the ladies would even consider you mate.
You should see my email box, lady. I don't know who you think you are, but some walmart greeter looking older woman with a penchant for consequence-free enabling posts, making yet ANOTHER assumption about me really does not sting much.
Also, I have no idea what ancient times you are talking about. I would say that I know more about history than you do, but I don't make assumptions about people just for the heck of it.... unlike some.
Throughout the course of human history, protitutes have never been marriage material. Ever. They were concubines, or mistresses perhaps.... but not wives.
You're seeing what you want to see. There are still consequences for decisions and behavior in life. Preaching the opposite is not going to change what men think about these issues.
And you think MEN are judgmental!?!? Every single one of my female friends is harsher and more judgmental about other women than I could ever imagine being. Ever.
Get back in touch with reality. Please.
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Posted: 10/1/2009 1:20:38 AM | ^^^ I would say that you can just look at my posting history, and tell that I do.
You can't claim you know more than others, because you obviously don't. You're 10 years my senior, and still use insults as fall back option while debating.
I don't claim. I know.
One person's perception of arrogance is another's self confidence and wisdom.
In my experience, it usually boils down to whether the receptor agrees with the person in question or not.
I don't respect slutty women. You think that women should be able to spread their legs for anything and everything with a pulse, whenever they feel like it, and not be judged for it or have any social consequences.
We disagree. Therefor you find me arrogant and judgmental. I find you hedonistic and unrealistic.
Simple.
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| For The Guys- Would you seriously date an ex-prostitute?
Posted: 10/1/2009 2:24:32 AM | | I wouldn't date a former prostitute by choice because those women, surveyed their intimate lives and bodies and assigned to it some specific dollar value which entertained anyone with sufficient legal tender worthy of her all. What does that say about her character and standards? How would a normal woman feel about dating a man who frequented prostitutes? And no, I don't want to hear about it from self proclaimed sexually liberated fanatics trying to change the world with their open mindedness. These days the term open minded is being takena little too far. | |
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Posted: 10/1/2009 4:42:36 AM | International velvet: I have to give you kudos as you put up a great arguement and viewpoint. Again, as a man I respect your opinion and hope you would respect and understand mine. Just want to replay to some of the remarks you have made above.
Ok, so now we gone from prostitution being a means to an end to it becoming 'a lifestyle'. Chronic Drug addiction is a lifestyle, but unless a prostitute hooks the majority of their waking hours, it is not 'a lifestyle'
Would you agree that in MOST cases, Prostitution is a CHOSEN lifestyle? A woman has the right and the opportunity to go into this "line of work" if she so chooses. Usually, with most of the people I know, what you do for a living does make up a substantial portion of your lifestyle. Again, I feel its something that gets "in the blood". Basically, what I see that is nice about being a woman is she has a choice, does she want to be a "good girl" or a "bad girl". We guys don't often get that choice. So basically, the old cliches come in to play here, "if the shoe fits" and "you make your bed now you have to sleep in it". We all make choices in life and most of us have to live by the choices we made.
Underlying this issue is fear of women who have sexual power.
I really don't get this one. If a man is of weak character, has little self worth, or simply can't keep his passions in order, then yes, women definitely have power over these kinds of men. No woman can have any power over a man unless he allows for it. Henceforth, I don't blame necessarily the women who choose this profession, although I do believe they capitalize on the weakness of some men, I blame the men.
Thats why in modern times we have problems with prostitution. In ancient times, they were held in high esteem and where considered wise + goddess like. Hence why jesus was with mary magdalene. Ancient egyptian times, prostituter were higly revered. And that is a fact.
Please tell me you don't want to go back to those ancient times. Also please tell me that you don't want women in western society to be treated like the modern day woman in muslim and middle eastern countries. I think we've come a long way from those "times".
What do you think happens with the millions of ladies who exit the business every year? They go on, usually with a partner, to lead normal, contributing to society lives, just like the rest of us Do you honestly know this for sure? I know you will probably say you do. Let me ask you this though. If the "business" they are in is so "lucrative" and even "glamorous" as you are portraying it, why would a "business" woman want to settle down with a partner, lead a normal life and contribute to society. By the way, what is a normal life to you? Are you admitting that this "business" is abnormal? You also mention, "just like the rest of us". Are you also admitting that these women are not just like the rest of us? Any man I know would not be intersted in a partner like this. Her background and track record would not indicate to me someone I could trust or build a future with.
Just like you, nor anyone else, tell another how to live their life, what to do with their body, how moralistic they are, who they should bed, what they should think yada yada. Its projectionist propoganda, and quite often society gets caught up in the good ol 'i'm better than you, because i dont do......(insert judgement of whatever 'sin' here) *this excludes people who intentionally hurt others* Instead of applying the fact we are all human, we are all 'sinners', none of us are perfect + having enough humility to realise this is an empowering subconcious action. In this statement, i am not saying you have to let people into your life who dont befit your moral code, but the understanding + empathy for others whose ethics are different can be a liberating experience for our own psyche. Oh goodness, how we go from a simple question Would you seriously date an ex-prostitute? to studies of ancient times, society examinations, psychological examinations and the last but not least, the MORAL card. I can't stress enough, to each their own. Its not about Morality. It is about personal choices, both for the woman and for the man. International velvet you seem like a nice woman who has taken the time to express your thoughts. As I mentioned before, we all make choices and judgements on what we want in our lives, who we want in our lives and so forth. We all try to look at someone's background to determine whether or not we would hire a person, bring someone home to meet the family, build a life with and to love and cherish. I respectfully conclude that an ex-prostitute is not someone I would care to associate with, let alone date.
I put up an interesting post on the 'rights' thread that equates to this debate Not sure what that post is. But again, I don't see it has anything to do with rights. It has everything to do with one's personal decisions and choice. | |
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Posted: 10/1/2009 6:18:30 PM | | I understood her desire to help, but I am MONOGOMOUS. Even though it would have been just business to her, to me it would have been cheating. So it ended, because she wouln't stop suggesting it. She wouldn't consider a regular JOB. Those were for suckers, ugly women, and men | |
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Posted: 10/2/2009 7:31:45 AM | I know a prominent person in this city who married one and if it works for them, who cares what anyone else thinks?
As for me, meh, there's enough hookers around without dating one who *literally* is one.  | |
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Posted: 10/2/2009 10:20:41 AM |
Thats why in modern times we have problems with prostitution. In ancient times, they were held in high esteem and where considered wise + goddess like. Hence why jesus was with mary magdalene. Ancient egyptian times, prostituter were higly revered. And that is a fact.
Since then however, we've gotten smarter...
In those same ancient times people believed illness was caused by "vapours" or demons or the gods... even the syphyllis and other STD's that were killing people....
They believed the world was flat...
They believed that women were property...
They believed that animals were gods...
In those times human sacrifice and slaughtering people in the arena was also held in high esteem...
I think we're better off not equating things to being held in high-esteem in the ancient world... | |
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| For The Guys- Would you seriously date an ex-prostitute?
Posted: 10/2/2009 11:46:15 AM | | sure i'd date an ex prostitute. have been doing it since i was sexually active. what's the difference between a woman spreading her legs for a chance at a big house, a car, marriage, kids and a woman who frankly comes forth and says i'll screw you for money? wait...i know....it's hidden behind 3 words...i love you. hahaha | |
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Posted: 10/2/2009 1:46:23 PM | | Would you say the same thing about a man who's body had been "used up" by all kinds of women? Both the male and female body are made to recover you know. Not that the female genitalia really gets damaged in the first place, it's pretty much built for the act. Don't be so quick to buy into the "loose" myth, it's built to stretch and retract, and don't be so quick to hate or discriminate either. If you could get paid a lot of money to have sex with women, wouldn't you be, in the slightest bit, tempted at all? | |
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Posted: 10/2/2009 2:06:15 PM | | roninvince: Ron, go back and read the original question. The question was asked of guys Would you seriously date an ex-prostitute? . Prostitute implies that there was an exchange of $$$$ for services rendered. As far as I know, prostitutes are primarily women who service men, or men who also service other men. Its not about hating or discriminating. It IS about personal choice. Its not a moral issue either. I have asked more than once for women to chime in and state whether or not they would date questionable men and there haven't been many responses. They KEY point for ME, is the Exchange of $$$$, which I would never be able to accept. That would be the deal breaker for me. | |
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Posted: 10/2/2009 2:08:07 PM | A friend of mine dated an active prostitute for a very short period of time. Another friend dated an ex-prostitute for a short period of time. Yet another friend dated a girl that became a prostitute after he dated her. To be fair we lived in California very close to Nevada. However, in each of those cases the women had severe emotional issues not related to the prostitution but probably related to previous sexual and physical abuse.
If a woman who has no STD's and is emotionally stable currently were to tell me after we were dating that she had once been a prostitute, I wouldn't run away. I think we'd need to have a very serious discussion in regards to our relationship.
I realize that people make mistakes when they're younger. Once upon a time I did drugs and broke into cars and stole other peoples property. I was lucky, I survived and changed my ways, I wouldn't do it again, I wasn't an addict and I wasn't a career criminal I was just stupid. Then I joined the USMC and they knocked some sense into me. | |
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