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 tocarace

Joined: 2/23/2005
Msg: 101
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Posted: 6/29/2005 8:46:01 PM
I have been working in computers for years... Mostly with Msn, and I have found that most holes are from IE in most cases. I have found that having the must up to date software may not always help. The most that users can use is a hardware firewall as well as Firefox which kills most of the holes that IE bring to the page....

James
 Admin

Joined: 3/27/2001
Msg: 102
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Posted: 7/2/2005 7:24:37 PM
Simply looking up the name of the virus, will tell you its not possible to get it from a website.

http://vic.zonelabs.com/tmpl/body/CA/virusDetails.jsp?VId=43234
 xander

Joined: 2/22/2005
Msg: 103
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Posted: 7/4/2005 2:07:09 PM
Budman_ct,

The thread has been running for three months, and the last few days have been the longest it's been quiet. Hardly "inactive".

ZoneAlarm+Spysweeper: If you'd read the first page, you'd see how strongly recommended it is to run a firewall AND spyware software. It's considered standard protection. (Best combo is hardware firewall+software firewall+antivirus+antispyware+antispam, all kept up to date)

If you're having luck with Spysweeper, that's great. It does get some very good reviews. However, I'd recommend against putting all your eggs in one basket. That's why it's very highly recommended to run more than one spyware scanner on your system. What one misses, the other will get. Just because one reports more than others doesn't necessarily mean it's better, just more willing to risk false positives.

There are some great commercial products out there, no doubt, but using the free ones in combination will serve you just as well.

OPTIONS FOR THE EVERYDAY USER: Router (hardware firewall)
ZoneAlarm (there are others, but this one's fine)
SpywareBlaster with MS AntiSpyware (XP/2K) or Spybot's TeaTimer or SpywareGuard
Avast or AVG (both free and work very well)
Thunderbird (built-in junk mail filtering)
For added security:
Firefox browser (or Netscape or Opera or ... just about anything other than IE)
Additional spyware scanners (SpyBot+AdAware+your_preference)
Online spyware scanner (I like xcleaner, linked on page1)

It's all on the first page, but seems to get repeated by every other guy here who thinks he can throw in additional "expert" opinion.


http://spywarewarrior.com/asw-features.htm
Just found a good looking comparison of the better known anti-spyware programs, on a trustworthy site.
 kat39

Joined: 6/9/2005
Msg: 104
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Posted: 7/10/2005 4:27:12 AM
hi i read your article about norton reporting something been written to disc,i had a prob with a norton program,...because i had my motherboard virus scan on.,disabled it,no probs.
 Dei Gratia

Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 105
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Posted: 7/11/2005 6:48:07 AM

Spyware: The threat of unwanted software programs is changing the way people
use the internet

http://www.pewinternet.org/PPF/r/160/report_display.asp



7/6/2005 | MemoReport | Susannah Fox

Spyware and the threat of unwanted programs being secretly loaded onto
computers are becoming serious threats online. Nine out of ten internet
users say they have adjusted their online behavior out of fear of falling
victim to software intrusions. Unfortunately, many internet users' fears
are grounded in experience - 43% of internet users, or about 59 million
American adults, say they have had spyware or adware on their home
computer. Although most do not know the source of their woes, 68% of home
internet users, or about 93 million American adults, have experienced at
least one computer problem in the past year that are consistent with
problems caused by spyware or viruses.


View PDF of Report
http://www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Spyware_Report_July_05.pdf

View PDF of Questionnaire
http://www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Spyware_MayJune05_Qs.pdf


 Dei Gratia

Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 106
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Posted: 7/11/2005 6:50:58 AM
frustrated icon not functioning.......
 civire

Joined: 1/30/2005
Msg: 107
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Posted: 7/12/2005 9:20:14 AM
i have used avg for a long time its real good for a free prog
also panda scan is nice its a real strong online scanner they jus now are starting to do spyware to .
 knight43

Joined: 7/14/2005
Msg: 108
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Posted: 7/14/2005 10:37:08 PM
Antivir is free for personal use, google on antivir.

Hijack this is free also, google on Hijackthis, will scan for browser redirects.

Lavasoft adaware is free, google on adaware.

Spybot is good for spyware, adware and is free, google on same name.

Spyware blaster is free trial, google on spyware blaster.

I recommne using Firefox latest version and Thunderbird email both free, both cut down on spyware, malware, and is a better browser than IE6.
 khama

Joined: 3/31/2005
Msg: 109
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Posted: 7/16/2005 8:16:51 AM
I used to use all those programs once and now i just use one...
This one program is the quickest and most effective spyware remover I have ever seen
It's name is: XOFTSPY 4.15 ....
It is brilliant and I dont use Adaware or Lavasoft anymore... Things these programs miss
XOFTSPY kills them
Ever had problems removing TOPNETSEARCH or TNS viruses... even Norton 2005 can't delete it, but this program found and deleted it in seconds....
XOFTSPY deletes all of 41000 plus of them in seconds....

Gets my vote anyway.... Try it...
 Dei Gratia

Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 110
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Posted: 7/18/2005 8:15:59 PM
For those running MSAS, you *should* receive the software
upgrade via the updating engine.

For those of you thinking about trying MSAS for the first time,
be warned - it's a ~Beta!
First time users, download here:
*Please read /all / the FAQ's and documentation *before* you
proceed.


Regards....
 jerseyjohn

Joined: 7/11/2005
Msg: 111
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Posted: 7/18/2005 8:37:32 PM
just so you know tickettoride, you really shouldnt have 2 different antivirus' on your system. it will actually cause more problems then help. Norton anti virus is crap, i agree, but when you have it running with another anti virus you are only going to have alot of problems.

i use Anti-vir (free-av.com) its low on system resources, and i havent had a problem yet.

i also use spybot, ad aware se, and microsofts beta. a REALLY good program is PC CILLIN. i would suggest using it, but it does cost money. also Webroots Spysweeper is good, but you have to pay for that also.


John
 Dei Gratia

Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 112
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Posted: 7/19/2005 8:24:48 AM
Good comment John and it is true if you have both being a full time protection.

But those that are skilled know that one AV does not cover all the Viri of the world, best to have one from each side of the world.

The free porgram you mentioned just got a fairly low rating at castlecops mainpage.

although it is usually good, It was suggested to run min two AV's and the trick is you need to know which two. I would never rely one one AV especially free.

You may want to double check what else is avail.
 writer

Joined: 4/30/2005
Msg: 113
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Posted: 7/21/2005 6:54:19 PM

To date, Norton has caused far more damage & downtime than any virus possibly could


hmmmmm.....

Installed Norton awhile back. No downtime, but computer is just acting wierd...had a feeling it was the Norton, but everyone always insists Norton is so fantastic...

Thanks.
 Tornado_Lover

Joined: 1/29/2005
Msg: 114
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Posted: 7/21/2005 7:23:01 PM
I recently sent a suspicious file in to virustotal and Norton(Symantec) was the only one that didn't find anything! Granted this "Trojan" may be classified by Symantec as more of a "spyware" issue and perhaps they don't put the same priority to it as other companies. Still, it pays to rely on more then one antivirus! Here are the results....

This is a report processed by VirusTotal on 07/19/2005 at 20:26:54

(CET) after scanning the file "trj.exe" file.

Antivirus Version Update Result

AntiVir 6.31.0.9 07.19.2005 -TR/Dldr.INService.I
AVG 718 07.19.2005 -Downloader.Inservice.M
Avira 6.31.0.9 07.19.2005 -TR/Dldr.INService.I
BitDefender 7.0 07.19.2005 -Trojan.Downloader.INService.I
CAT-QuickHeal 7.03 07.19.2005 -TrojanDownloader.INService.i
ClamAV devel-20050712 07.19.2005 -Trojan.Downloader.INService-6
DrWeb 4.32b 07.19.2005 -Trojan.DownLoader.1007
eTrust-Iris 7.1.194.0 07.19.2005 -Win32/SillyDl.BH!Trojan
eTrust-Vet 11.9.1.0 07.19.2005 -Win32.SillyDl.BM
Fortinet 2.36.0.0 07.19.2005 -W32/Downldr.GC-tr
F-Prot 3.16c 07.19.2005 -security risk named W32/Downloader.OE
Ikarus 2.32 07.19.2005 -Trojan-Downloader.Win32.INService.I
Kaspersky 4.0.2.24 07.19.2005 -Trojan-Downloader.Win32.INService.i
McAfee 4538 07.19.2005 -Downloader-IQ
NOD32v2 1.1173 07.19.2005 -Win32/TrojanDownloader.INService.I
Norman 5.70.10 07.19.2005 -W32/INService.AN
Panda 8.02.00 07.19.2005 -Trj/Downloader.YD
Sybari 7.5.1314 07.19.2005 -Trojan-Downloader.Win32.INService.i
Symantec 8.0 07.19.2005 -no virus found
TheHacker 5.8.2.072 07.19.2005 -Trojan/Downloader.INService.i
VBA32 3.10.4 07.19.2005 -Trojan-Downloader.Win32.INService.i
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 115
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Posted: 7/21/2005 11:42:02 PM
just so you know tickettoride, you really shouldnt have 2 different antivirus' on your system. it will actually cause more problems then help. Norton anti virus is crap, i agree, but when you have it running with another anti virus you are only going to have alot of problems.

I have no clue where you got this from, I checked my posts back and I am pulling a blank here what you are talking about. I don't have 2 A/V progs on my Machine.

I think you are confusing (2) Two 'Anti-virus Programs' running at the same Time vs. an 'Anti-Virus Program' with a manually activated 'Anti-Trojan Scanner'.
(Trojan Defence Suite/TDS-3)

Leading anti-virus systems are good at detecting viruses, but relatively poor at trojan detection. TDS detects several thousand trojans that can be confirmed, but are still not detected by any anti-virus programs. One reason for this is that anti-virus researchers have a lot more to deal with (such as over 50,000 viruses!) so they must limit how much time they spend on anti-trojan research. This is not the case with TDS, where these companies do nothing but trojan research and development.

TDS essentially detects anything malicious that isn't a virus. This includes RAT Servers, RAT EditServers, RAT Clients, RAT Plugins, RAT DDoS Servers, FTP RATs, Droppers, Binded trojans, Packed Servers, Keyloggers, Spyware, Mail Trojans, Password Stealers, Internet Worms, mIRC Worms, Malicious DLLs, Monitors, Spyware, and many others.

There are no Conflicts, there are no Problems.

Have a boo here: http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/

No downtime, but computer is just acting wierd...had a feeling it was the Norton, but everyone always insists Norton is so fantastic...

First and foremost, 'Norton A/V is a 'Resource Hog' extraordinaire, thereby potentially setting into motion endless other Conflicts that are in many cases next to impossible to track back.

Its one thing for a Newbie to gauk at his Screen and mull over for 90 seconds what he just clicked, an entirely different Story for a 'Multi-tasking Power-User'. Hence some problems with Norton are minimally User-Affected, esp. on Win9x Systems. Better than 50% of the time when my Machine wouldn't start up, various Norton 'Tray-Resident' Boot Utilities were found to be the source of the lock up.

Then what? Disable these Start-ups from 'Safe Mode' or 'Selective Start-up'. And even after everything has been disabled, there is still Norton Crap in the Boot Sequence.

Un-install? Ha! Usually comes up with bogus error messages blaming the Hard Drive, Problems with Windows, etc. ad nauseum, esp. if you have already done 1 or more Virus defintion Updates.

Usually I would end up 'slipping the Knot' around Norton's Neck through DOS and Regedits.

Try re-install and uninstall to cleanly remove from your System? Good Luck ... lol

I would rather manually remove a virus from my computer than to jerk around with Norton A/V Software.

... and I am not even commenting on the effectiveness on their Software. We are not even at that point. Lets first see the Computer boot up.
 Dei Gratia

Joined: 6/2/2005
Msg: 116
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Posted: 7/22/2005 12:36:10 PM
Tornado I think you'll like this site.....

http://virusscan.jotti.org/

He asks for donations folks so please assist a bit.

13 Av scanners run the file you download to his server
they all scan it and report what is found.

Awesome huh?

Not to be 100% effective but still it is a bit safer than what you
scan with now.

:')
 0tto

Joined: 5/19/2005
Msg: 117
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Posted: 8/2/2005 10:13:58 PM
won't to argue. just IMHO.
1. m.s. internet explorer come with ms os. that's mean 90% (or more) average users use it. other browser have rest 10%. they have holes in security no less than IE but why dirty script writers should pay time and effort to explore holes in tens different browsers which use only 10% users? all this talk about high level security of opera/firefox/mozilla/whatever only talk. if opera become so wide popular like ie did will be have this company enough finances to patch holes like now it always did microsoft for ie?
point is, instead promoting different browsers better give to site user a few hints how to adjust stuff what they have in use already and how to make it more reliable.

2. free stuff is a free stuff. if you after installation and use free antivirus appz have no viruses on your computer it's doesn't mean that it's very good antivirus. simple this aplication do not recognize new viruses becouse have no signature of this particular virus/es in pattern file. and don't have this just becouse not enough ppl in team who responsible to monitor net for viruses and develope effective protection. and it's happen becouse it's free and company have no money to hire more professional to work with this issue.
point is, you got what you pay for :)

as i understand this tread been created for very average user. so it's a good idea to keep it on level aceptible for average user.
 Dei Gratia

Joined: 7/28/2005
Msg: 118
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Posted: 8/3/2005 6:39:45 PM
Virus is a Latin word used by doctors to mean,
"Your guess is as good as mine"


"Anti-virus companies have always been seen as ambulance chasers, and sometimes, it's true"
Dan Schrader TM


Outgoing mail may be certified as Virus Free. It's checked with several AV products, however the final responsibility lies with you the recipient.

Regardless which one you use they all chase what has been created, some quick some not, others auto update "free ones" usually do not.

When you know of IE has 86 some security holes that the vendor has not fixed then why use it. I strongly urge everyone who uses IE to get an alternate browser till IE 7 comes out.

It is only IE that allows one to get WINDOWS UPDATES

 Dei Gratia

Joined: 7/28/2005
Msg: 119
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Posted: 8/3/2005 6:42:41 PM
Stick fingers could be the other problem...;^O
 summerbreeze_

Joined: 8/13/2005
Msg: 120
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Posted: 8/13/2005 6:13:08 AM
The first sign of malware is the activity lights on your modem. The other day my activity lights were going haywire (both on the modem and on the lower right hand side of the screen). I wasn't sending or receiving packets at the time, not intentionally.

A scan found that I was infected by three trojans. They were removed.
 0tto

Joined: 5/19/2005
Msg: 121
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Posted: 8/13/2005 8:38:48 PM
seem you don't use firewall.
 biteuifilikeu

Joined: 3/1/2004
Msg: 122
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Posted: 8/14/2005 2:07:47 PM
well tin man is on the right track ,except add zone pro instead of the normal one ,also add stinger (free)for the hard to find viruses ,also a free tool from avg that searches for over 350 viruses and removes them ,keep your sytem restore turned off ,and a great free progam disk cleaner that cleans all temp files etc on reboot so any bugs dont get a chance to operate!i havent had a bug for about a year with that combo.
 Lazyboyz

Joined: 8/15/2005
Msg: 123
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Posted: 8/15/2005 8:51:31 PM
I don't like Firefox....after 10 years of IE I'm kinda hooked on it. I know everything on it pretty much and using Firefox won't make me sleep better at night because it's inevitable that it'll soon be targeted as well. Yes, I tried it....it's just weird.
 mortalez

Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 124
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Posted: 8/15/2005 9:01:54 PM
The best way to avoid viruses and spyware is to not use windows .
popup's and homepage changing can be fixed by useing firefox .

I switched to linux and have had no security problems since . in fact I can play with the virouses I get in E-Mail the same ones that wreck windows systems . I see them and say nice try and go about my biz .
99.9 percent of people who write viruses target commercial software so I doubt firefox will be a target because its opensource and hackers seem to have respect for opensource .
the hacker lifestyle is kindof a culture and commercial software is viewed as the great satan in their eyes .
 Lazyboyz

Joined: 8/15/2005
Msg: 125
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Posted: 8/15/2005 10:52:54 PM
I get these emails from Korea offering prescription drugs and vitamins at low prices....but the email has grammar & spelling error's. It has a link to click to go to their site. I've never clicked it but my curiosity say's do it....what could happen? I have a firewall up and real time virus protection from my service provider. Is it a virus? I got 2 of these sent in the past week, and only subsribe to well known sights like CNN CBC Telus Canada.com and my banks...and of course POF. Where did these people find my email? and what would happen if i open? Virus?
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