| | Pharmaceuticals - In search for a cure? Or a treatment?Page 3 of 3 (1, 2, 3) | Mr. Mxyzptlk....
I wasnt saying that to him in comparison to you or Fauz. I like reading your posts as well. You have alot of good points in them as well.
I am actually very realistic and very seldom do I live in a fantasy world. No doubt that phrarmaceuticals are out to make money. It is a business..nothing there should be surprising. | |
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izzcam
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| Pharmaceuticals - In search for a cure? Or a treatment?
Posted: 10/29/2006 8:37:35 PM | I have stated my view point before and I will say it again.....Although we may not all particularly like big business for whatever reason...It is BIG because it made money. These companies exist because they MAKE money and the way you make money is to sell your product or service. Blaming Pharma is all well and good when you start talking about cures vs treatments....But as has been stated...Very few cures have ever been found. So its treatments we have.
I remember years ago when there was a deal the city of SJ had come up with to have a statue of KC Irving put up in the city to commemorate some milestone in Irvings history with Saint John. His contributions are endless to the area and yet a boistrous group of people came unglued when the city said they were going to commission the work. Their outcry was that Irving had enough money to put up their own statue.....in the end they did as far as I know. But I recall hearing people go on and on about how Irving owed the people of SJ and of NB....and it made me laugh. The man started with nothing and built an empire....He didn't start his company to NOT make money.... | |
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Posted: 10/29/2006 9:29:08 PM | Izz: I don't really blame pharma, I blame the capitalist system that makes this situation possible. I'm an old 1970s lefty, and I like it that way.
I remember that statue debacle. KC started with an oil truck, not exactly nothing, but I agree that the familt owed nothing to SJ. He built the empire himself. Ruthlessly, dishonourably, and (arguably) dishonestly, but by himself.
SnP: Seems I may have over-reacted to your post. My bad. | |
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Posted: 10/30/2006 6:07:57 AM | What we could say, is that cure/treatment research shouldn't be a "business" but a goverment organization instead. When you're in "business" to make cure/treatments and cures your motives come under question.
This is of course assuming that the goverment would have better motives, and would be looking out for the greater good. Today's goverments, under great economic pressure, are desperate for money as well and therefore we would likely be no further ahead with them. The economy now is in a state of survival and people/companies do what they can to survive. Competition between businesses is more fierce than its ever been. So if profit isn't the motive, survival is. | |
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Posted: 10/30/2006 10:01:41 AM | Even if it was a government organization, the money has to come from somewhere. It would be coming from our taxes as well as we would be paying for the product, so we are hit twice. Besides, I am sure the government subsides some projects. The bottom line, people have to be paid, products have to be bought, advertising has to be done, and none of this is free even if it is the cure to cancer.
On a different note....so I went to the drug store today to get my "birth control" pills. I go up to the counter...and like any other time..give her my name..she brings it up..whispers to another lady. I am thinking..."what could be the problem..I know I have some refills"
So she looks at me, we dont have this, you will have to go to your doctor. I am like, what do you mean you dont have this. She said the whole northside is sold out of it. Likely eveywhere. I am stunned...you dont have my prescription...what am i sopose to do. She said again..go to your doctor. I dont have a doctor.. I have only been back in fton for a year now.
She apoligized..which of course none of this is her fault..but I am like, wow....hopefully there wont be a mini baby boom in nine months time!
So anyways...there are no pills of my brand in the city...and now I have to go to the clinic and wait for hours for a diff kind. ?????? GRRRRRRRRRRRRR | |
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izzcam
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Posted: 9/4/2010 5:12:49 AM | You are so right, lucky444, it is genius and that's exactly why it works! The genius is that we are all so afraid of the discomfort of a cold or a headache that we MUST HAVE what ever the advertisers tell us will make us feel better. No matter what it costs, we have to have it! No matter what it is, we simply MUST HAVE it.
In the case of legitimate illness we really do need relief, no question, but I have to agree with the poster who suggested that if the Pharmecuitals(sp?) were truely affective it would put the companies producing them out of business! So how can we realisticly(sp?) believe in them
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Posted: 9/4/2010 8:53:59 AM | I believe many cures have been found by pharmaceatical companies, but they as well as the government stand to loose far to much money by annoucing them publicly.
There are not only cures out there but in many cases viable treatments that can slow the progression down in many diseases.
One that affects me personally, is the CCSVI treatment, found by Dr. Zamboni, that he has tested and proven to be an effective treatment for ppl with MS.
But now here in Canada they seem to have to test it to death forcing ppl to go to other countries to have this treatment done, costing tens of thousands of dollars. pharmaceutical companies will loose to nuch money if this treatment becomes available to the 50 000 plus ppl in Canada affected with MS.
MS patients pay 1000's of dollars to slow progression of this disease.
Please check out this treatment,, just googleCCSVI,,, check it out, help us ensure that this treatment does become available to those who want it, and need it.
Some are saying this is a placebo,, its all in our heads,,, I personally don't care,, it makes sense, and as an adult it should be my decision whether it is right for me or not. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2010 2:38:02 PM |
I believe many cures have been found by pharmaceatical companies
I don't really believe they have. As you (and others) point out, treatment is better for their profit line than cures, so I don't believe they have found cures for the simple reason they aren't looking. Research which might lead to cures is always under-funded and marginalized.
they seem to have to test it to death
Of course. Over-testing and over-regulating the results of any independent research is another way our government protects the profits of drug companies - at the expense of our health. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 5:32:05 PM | Certainly pharmaceutical companies are in it to make big money,but I do believe that the researchers who are researching cures for different diseases are honestly trying their hardest and want to find cures.The one thing pharmaceutical companies know is that there will always be new diseases and more money to be made.
Drugs for depression and anxiety and drugs to calm your kids down now are big sellers so big pharma had no need to hold back cures.Look back at all of the advances we have have made it a short period of time with so many diseases.One of my nieces would not be alive now if not for a drug only recently made available.Just ten short years ago she would of died. | |
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FTLA
| | Joined: 7/10/2011
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| Pharmaceuticals - In search for a cure? Or a treatment?
Posted: 4/9/2012 4:00:25 PM | AKA HUMMINBIRDS.
22 MARCH I WENT TO ALBANY NY FOR CCSVI TREATMENT, THOUGH IT IS BY NO MEANS A CURE, MY BALANCE HAS IMPROVED IMMENSELY, HAVEN'T WORN BRACE SINCE, AND NOT DRAGGING LEG AS MUCH,,,, HOPE TO SEE MORE IMPROVEMENTS AS TIME GOES ON.
THIS TREATMENT IS STILL NOT APPROVED IN CANADA. | |
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Posted: 4/27/2012 8:55:22 AM | | I'm so happy for you FTLA, and happy to have your update. I'm sure you're on the right path towards a better quality of life with the CCSVI treatments. You are in my prayers as ever, keep us all informed of the progress you make. HUGS, Hopes and all that mushy stuff from.........Mara | |
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Posted: 6/4/2012 1:42:20 AM | Not to change the subject,but Re the Pharms,I've seen it from both sides-the one as a health care provider,and the other as one who has used prescriptions/pharmaceuticals at times. I see in our Western Medical Model a rather disappointing phenomenon in which the pharmaceuticals benefit $$ from in the US-treating symptoms.This is not how many other medical models such as traditional Chinese Medicine,Homeopathy,etc,work,the latter which I've seen amazing CURES from Lyme Disease(which I am writing up a case study on),and other maladies.
My Brother was a pharma Rep for quite a while,I cornored him once and demanded an answer re why the pharms chg soooo much for meds in the US,he finally admitted to me this,"we make so little $$ from the other Industrialised nations,that we have to make decent money somewhere,we can ask the big bucks for meds in the US,so we do".Nice,huh? | |
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