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Smjle
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Joined: 9/19/2006
Msg: 101 | |
| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 4/16/2007 11:51:28 PM |
...since, according to you, RP won't get but 2% of the Rep vote...
I suggest you enroll in some adult education classes and learn how to read. | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 4/18/2007 10:00:36 PM | ^
Currently Ron Paul is running at about 2 percent in public polls.
........i take this to mean that only 2% of voters would be casting a vote for RP...but it stands to reason that most if not all of these votes would be coming from the Republican/independant camp since i can in no way see any mainstream Dem voting for him!.........you'll be hard pressed to show otherwise.....and thus i'll refrain in making any derogatory remarks toward you such as to prevent me from sinking down to your level! | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 4/18/2007 10:32:49 PM | Honestly, one of the strong selling points for Ron Paul is that he is the only Republican candidate who has any support from Democrats. John McCain has lost a lot of his support from both camps, as has Mitt Romney. When you actually run the numbers or just talk to people, Paul has some support amongst Democratic voters. Few of the GOP contenders are able to match that.
Straw poll results are telling, and Ron Paul has taken first or second in every straw poll I've seen. | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 4/18/2007 10:55:25 PM | ^
Paul has some support amongst Democratic voters. Few of the GOP contenders are able to match that.
........even if RP does have some Dem support over those of the 'traditional' Gop, it would still be a neglible number in the bigger picture!......................the current Dem mindset seems to be geared more toward solidarity.........they do not wanna replay the same scene that took place in the past election when Nader managed to siphon some potential Dem votes from Kerry | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 4/18/2007 11:09:49 PM |
lets get real here, if this man's political inclinations cannot be reconciled to that of his chosen party [who has apparently excised him already for reasons you pointed out] then what the hell possess him running as a Rep!.......so he could say the same thing you iterated!!!....that "almost all Reps would vote for him?.......even though he'll get just 2% of their vote!...........hmmmm, makes sense to me!
Most Americans recognize that there are insider, establishment candidates who garner tremendous media attention. Every one of us should recognize that the insider, CFR candidates are just picking up where their cronies left off. You can barely see any shift in trade, regulatory, fiscal, or social policies between Bush 41 and Clinton, or between Clinton and Bush 43. When Hillary is president (she has already been selected), she will pick up where Bush 43 left off. She has already voted for the PATRIOT Act, the War in Iraq, federalization of the schools, and all of the expansions of federal power that Bush has supported.
All of the insiders take their marching orders from the Rockefeller's, etc. If there were tremendous change between two administrations, the stock market would be in turmoil with each election. But there isn't. Everything continues as before, and the nation grows deeper in debt, crime gets worse, government grows bigger, and we lose more of our rights.
Are you going to vote to keep David Rockefeller in power, or are you going to vote for an outsider who has an outside chance of getting elected? Why would anyone support an establishment candidate who will knowingly make things worse?
Ron Paul may very well be the last, best hope for this country. It may be an outside chance, but if patriotic Americans are willing to stand up to this establishment, then this country may have a real chance.
If we fail to take our country back, at least let us say that we did our best, that we justified our time here. If we will take so many hours to argue and fight amongst ourselves, then will we not spend one hour attending a straw poll or caucus? Will those who think Ron Paul's campaign impossible at least, for the sake of experiment, vote for him until the first primary begins?
We'll know by January whether or not he--or any other outsider--has a snowball's chance in hell. | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 4/18/2007 11:26:06 PM |
the past election when Nader managed to siphon some potential Dem votes from Kerry
Unfortunately, Bush managed to pull in a majority of votes in 2004. Perhaps you refer to the 2000 fiasco. In any case, Gore, Kerry, Hillary, Cheney, Bush, Clinton, and all of the others are Council on Foreign Relations members, and all are supporting virtually the same globalist policies. Not one opposed NAFTA, GATT, the PATRIOT Act, or any spending increases. All "support" the same policies because they choose early in their careers to be tools of the Bilderbergers.
The only thing that matters is how you vote. If you vote for one of the International Bankers' candidates, you are doing no better than millions of schmucks out there who think that there is a difference between the two major political parties.
When confronted by imminent invasion at the hands of the Nazi's, the Dutch fought. The French folded. How would you rather be remembered? | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 4/18/2007 11:27:47 PM |
the past election when Nader managed to siphon some potential Dem votes from Kerry
Unfortunately, Bush managed to pull in a majority of votes in 2004. Perhaps you refer to the 2000 fiasco. In any case, Gore, Kerry, Hillary, Cheney, Bush, Clinton, and all of the others are Council on Foreign Relations members, and all are supporting virtually the same globalist policies. Not one opposed NAFTA, GATT, the PATRIOT Act, or any spending increases. All "support" the same policies because they choose early in their careers to be tools of the Bilderbergers.
The only thing that matters is how you vote. If you vote for one of the International Bankers' candidates, you are doing no better than millions of schmucks out there who think that there is a difference between the two major political parties.
When confronted by imminent invasion at the hands of the Nazi's, the Dutch fought. The French folded. How would you rather be remembered? | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 4/19/2007 6:24:29 AM | ^
Are you going to vote to keep David Rockefeller in power, or are you going to vote for an outsider who has an outside chance of getting elected? Why would anyone support an establishment candidate who will knowingly make things worse?
.........you don't have to convince me of this, i know it already.......my rant is mainly about how someone like RP can ever garner enough support from the mainstream voter, when he seems to be in effect, a political derelict.
as you may know, the typical american voter is(unfortunately) not astute enough to be able ferret out the issues (you pointed out above) that would so incline them to pull the lever for an outsider.
i will not be voting for either of the mainstream candidates myself....but it pains me to see that the person i'm willing to support hardly makes a blip on the radar screen!
the only outsider in recent times who made an impact was H. Ross perot in his initial bid in 92'.......but then he ended up screwing-up his own effort in what truly woulda been a full fledged 3 way race.......since that time, americans have a bit leery in backing a 3rd party candidate......which i think is unfortunate! | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 4/19/2007 7:11:43 PM | ^
......if by some miracle, RP ever got elected...i don't think he'd be able to do anything of significance in his 1st year cause both the dems and reps would be hard at work in trying to derail him at every step of the way...thus making him appear like a useless fool.
the thing RP would need to do upon being elected, he has to clearly show that he represents the best interests of the american pple, and no one else!......one of the ways he'd show us this is by not caving into the sole needs and demands of 'big enterprises'....at first, he would probably have to withstand hurricane-like gusts of pressure from all sides........but if he can hold out...he would eventually win the respect and support of ordinary pple, which would infuse him with the power to negotiate with both parties.
the key is that he has to win over the hearts and minds of the voters in a manner so contagious that would build him enuff momentum to raise him up to the same plain as the 2 major candidates!.............he does not appear to have the monetary means to do this so he'd have to rely on a combination of charisma, common sense, intelligence, as well as a whole lot of colloquial pizzazz! | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 4/22/2007 3:54:53 PM | There are a lot of key votes, caucuses, and straw polls in small, inexpensive states. One could potentially spend around $10 million (as Pat Buchanon did) and theoretically win all of the major votes right up to NH. This would knock out most of the high priced competitors. Ron Paul (and other outsiders) do have a real chance. If he can make it through the primary, he can't be ignored.
I believe that it's our patriotic duty to our country to support any candidate who is not part of this establishment. Once the establishment has done away with credible threats (like Ron Paul), the election is essentially over, before the majority of Americans have even started paying attention. The point is that we are responsible for this country, for what our government does to the rest of the world, and to posterity.
If we fail, at least let our descendants say that we did our best. At least let them remember us as they do the Free French, or the Finnish Army. | |
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Smjle
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Joined: 9/19/2006
Msg: 112 | |
| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 4/23/2007 1:42:36 PM | If we fail, at least let our descendants say that we did our best. At least let them remember us as they do the Free French, or the Finnish Army.
How true. The following is an article someone posted on Liberty Post:
Conspiracy Theories ?
It doesn't take long to find odd occurrences surrounding Ron Paul's success. Despite the efforts of Congressman Paul's detractors, he has seen impressive support online – and surging support in traditional polls as a result of his unique blend of anti-war, small government, and fiscal conservatism. Early on, Ron Paul took the lead on MySpace which recently announced an "Internet Primary" via their recently launched "Impact Channel". Since then his vocal online supporters have promoted him with rabid enthusiasm in any number of online polls. His numbers were so much higher than expected that several poll operators have had second thoughts about including him since he detracts from attention for traditional Republican candidates. Even the Wall Street Journal slammed his supporters for "ballot-stuffing", yet whenever poll operators think they've found a way to mute his support, he surges again to the top among Republicans. Ron Paul's amazing successes online and in fundraising have been largely ignored by the mainstream media. When there hasn't been a total blackout, coverage has often been amateur and antagonistic. Not all support has been as hostile, but for the most part positive interviews have been under the radar.
This is what the younger, better educated Internet set are doing with the primaries. They are speaking through support of candidates like Ron Paul to the mainstream media and the political establishment. They will not stand for unconstitutional election systems and media bias. They've discovered that on the Internet their voice can be heard – and they've discovered that the forces that attempt to steer them in day to day life are also making inroads on the net.
A time is coming where the people will seize control of the political system. The scores of eligible voters who pessimistically ignore the polls may soon realize that they outnumber the media-programmed drones and send a resounding message to the powers that be. The blogosphere is already rumbling with the recognition that technology has empowered the people to make their own ads and commentary that can reach immense audiences. There is also a bit of trepidation at the uncertain future that may result. Nobody is as fearful as the media mouthpiece industry that ensures its profitability through campaign ads.
Ron Paul's candidacy embodies the novel idea that our officials should abide by the US Constitution and merely live up to the oath of office. That is the central idea, along with an understanding of the Constitution that drives all of his policy decisions. The first thing that should strike you when faced with a Ron Paul detractor should be "Why does this person think our officials should ignore their oath of office?".
It's a question that should be asked often of candidates and their supporters alike. And as more people get to the root of that answer, support for Congressman Paul and candidates like him can only grow. | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 4/23/2007 2:52:42 PM | Turn up the volume and see this video-----RON PAUL REVOLUTION  http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...d=20170 35624 | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 5/3/2007 11:12:10 AM | "And as more people get to the root of that answer, support for Congressman Paul and candidates like him can only grow."
I don't think so. Since you Paul supporters like to crow about your support on the net, I thought you all might like to see what an internet poll shows that is run by a site people actually look at:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18421356/
In case the link doesn't work, of about 58,000 votes cast....
Giuliani 40%
McCain 31%
Paul 9%
Only Jim Gilmore and Duncan Hunter fared worse.
Sounds to me like the more people find out about Paul, the worse his numbers get. | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 5/3/2007 11:46:41 PM | | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18421356/ Ron Paul did real well in the debates. This time people really are thinking outside the box. The middle class is getting squeezed with all the taxing for policing the world. He made that point well. | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 5/4/2007 5:13:25 AM |
rounding up every single illegal alien and deporting them.......and this is bad WHY????
Because doing that is wrong??? Because a person doesn't have to have a piece of paper telling them where they can and cannot live? Because this world is their birthright as much as anyone else's?
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Psych
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Joined: 5/6/2005
Msg: 118 | |
| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 5/4/2007 7:05:13 AM | /\/\You're kidding right?
Ron Paul actually did well in the pseudo-cluster f**k they called a "debate".
I don't know if that debate really mattered all that much. It looked like some animatronic Disney thing to me. | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 5/4/2007 11:43:33 PM | | An Excellent read- Listen to what Congressman Paul had to say a few years ago upon being called back from private life to Washington: " http://www.afr.org/Hultberg/cincinnatus.html | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 5/5/2007 12:36:25 AM | May 5th 2007
With over 57,000 votes cast, it seems Ron Paul has come out ahead of the pack as a favorite in an msnbc poll based on the recent republican debate.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18436681/?GT1=9951
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 5/8/2007 1:46:32 PM | I hear a mass censorship of ron paul is unfolding http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/080507yahoocensor.htm
and apparently u can watch yourself be censored here.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/080507MySpace.htm | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 5/8/2007 1:55:38 PM | check it out you dirty scumdog **stard who thinks they are free so they dont question and research
please maybe earth would contribute from your non existence | |
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| Congressman Ron Paul for President
Posted: 5/9/2007 5:22:29 AM | "check it out you dirty scumdog **stard who thinks they are free so they dont question and research
please maybe earth would contribute from your non existence "
Nice to meet you too, junior. A little sensitive, aren't you? Maybe I'll value your opinion on this topic when you actually can vote in the US....until then as long you keep trotting out references from a silly site like prisonplanet.com, i will continue to laugh at you. Especially if you continue to write this way.."please maybe earth would contribute from your non existence"-what the hell is that? Is English a second language for you or what?
Paul simply doesn't matter. Quote all the internet polls you want.....whine about a media blackout...He will NOT get the nomination, much less win the general election. You all know it....I know it......spending any more time discussing him is like talking about the 12th place finisher in an Olympic event. Nobody cares. When his candidacy is over(and it will be by the time the big primary day next year), he will go back to Texas....never to be heard from again. | |
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