| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 12:12:43 PM | Aren't cold sores a strain of herpes, as well as chicken pox?
And the same strain that causes a canker sore/cold sore, can appear on a girls vagina if you go down on her. So alot of gals may have it, and not even know, from letting their mate eat their vag while they had an unnoticeable cold sore.
Statistically, 25% of adult Americans have genital herpes.
The scary part...
This doesn't include they amount that are unaware.
nor does it include those who get cold sores..
So ya. The funny thing is.....
I am willing to wager that while all the judgments are being passed
65% of the people babbling have never been tested.
and 0% of of the people here would EVER ADMIT IF THEY EVER HAD AN STD.
Stigma is a beautiful thing.
The FDA, and the Attorney general, could MAKE UP a disease, and people would freak. Regardless of doing any real research, and laugh while the idiot masses ran around blindly judging each other.
If I had that much power, I would be forever amused. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 12:17:11 PM |
ust because you have it on your mouth, doesnt make you any less of a risk of passing it on to someone else. Maybe even more so, cause most people kiss more than they have sex. I grew up with a sister who had cold sores on her mouth quite regularly. No one in the family ever kissed her on the mouth when she had one. She wouldn't have wanted it and we just didn't do it. If I were with someone who had cold sores, I wouldn't kiss on the mouth--it just makes sense. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 12:21:48 PM | I grew up with a sister who had cold sores on her mouth quite regularly. No one in the family ever kissed her on the mouth when she had one. She wouldn't have wanted it and we just didn't do it. If I were with someone who had cold sores, I wouldn't kiss on the mouth--it just makes sense.
You do realize that some people with oral HSV-1 are asymptomatic and shed the virus without any sores present? These people are still contagious even without any visible sores, and can pass the virus on to someone who is not infected if they kiss that person while shedding. HSV is quite tricky that way. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 12:25:30 PM | | ^^^Yes, you have said that, and the articles I read said that. I also read several posts in which posters said they had friends who were married to someone with herpes for years and never got it. I never got it from my sister, granted we didn't kiss much, as children, a peck now and then. Point is, that I believe oral herpes to be a very different situation than genital herpes and that though the virus CAN BE transmitted when there is no obvious sore, it is not happening all the time and the virus is probably most often transmitted when there is a sore. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 12:31:35 PM |
Point is, that I believe oral herpes to be a very different situation than genital herpes and that though the virus CAN BE transmitted when there is no obvious sore, it is not happening all the time and the virus is probably most often transmitted when there is a sore.
I beg to differ. Go to any HSV forum and you will read tons of stories from people who were infected by a partner who had GHSV with no visible sores. Do you think someone would actually sleep with an infected individual if they saw oozing sores on their genitalia? Ludicrous. Where are you getting your information from? It IS happening all the time, in fact, this is why GHSV is so prevalent. Most people do not have any symptoms and transmit it to others falsely believing they do not have GHSV. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 12:35:26 PM | | ^^^Well then what is the point. Almost all of us have it,but most don't know, and even if they know,you are gonna get it no matter what you do.....so what is the point of being aware, of telling anyone you have it, of doing anything about it or caring one way or the other if a partner has it as it seems inevitable that you are 90% certain to get it anyway???? | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 12:42:08 PM | ^^^Well then what is the point. Almost all of us have it,but most don't know, and even if they know,you are gonna get it no matter what you do.....so what is the point of being aware, of telling anyone you have it, of doing anything about it or caring one way or the other if a partner has it as it seems inevitable that you are 90% certain to get it anyway????
So are you admitting you have herpes?
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Speak for your self.
I was only asking. If you are going to make a statement like "Almost all of us have it" you insinuate that there is a likely possibility that I am included in your blanket generalization.
You are basically saying we are all going to get it, yet you get defensive as hell when someone asks YOU about it?
Hmm smells fishy.<--Fishy!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
Back to the OP. I'm a nurse, and if I found my soulmate, and knew for sure he had HSV2, he could more easily get my type 1 from me. I would be more concerned with his possibly having AIDS, or Hepatitis, after being with that stripper.
Some nurse......
Cause ALL strippers have aids.
Also, if a person has AIDS it is apparent.
You can't catch AIDS. Aids is a combination of diseases/condition.
Immuno deficiency syndromes exist without HIV being present.
EXAMPLE: Leukemia Da feline aids.
So by nurse, did you mean, CNA
If not, I hope to god the school you went to gets shut down for shelling out such mediocre nurses.
And by the way. You are more likely to get and std from a drunken bar fly (And they are numerous.) than you are from a PORN STAR.
THAT IS WHAT WORRIES ME.
Man. I just don't get it. The same people that prattle about judging people. Do it till they are blue in the face.
p.s.
There is no insurance that pays for the HERPES test, because they like almost every other localized VIRAL load test, are never accurate. You have to pay out of pocket for the blood work , and it is expensive, and not guaranteed.
Fun fact. Open up an Hiv test kit...and read the warning label.
What you will find is disturbing.
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 12:44:53 PM | First, get tested and make sure you don't have either type. If you do, big deal most of us have at least ONE type.
If you don't have either type (i'm dating someone who doesn't have either type), it depends on how much you really care about not contracting the virus. If you are really scared about contracting it, then you must be dilligent about weeding out those who have it. Have everyone you plan on kissing or having intercourse with get tested to make sure they don't have either type, or never have sex or kiss anyone ever again. That's the only way to be 100% protected. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 12:46:29 PM | it is the social stigma associated with it being on the genitalia. But if it is on your lip, it is alright? No way am I saying you dont have to be careful. People get up on their high horse and yell I dont have this, I dont want to be around anyone with it. Most likely they do already have it. Most are in denial.
Back to the OP. I'm a nurse, and if I found my soulmate, and knew for sure he had HSV2, he could more easily get my type 1 from me. I would be more concerned with his possibly having AIDS, or Hepatitis, after being with that stripper. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 12:46:54 PM | ^^^msg 132: No. How do you get that? What a creep you are trying to twist my words so it looks like I've said something I haven't, especially this type of thing. I am posing a hypothetical, rhetorical question based on the discussion... For you to try to personalize it is odious...
msg 133 and 134: The thing is none of this makes a lot of sense to me. Because, the way you present it, based on your experience or knowledge of it and based on the literature, is almost hysterical. It's almost fear mongering. I think that people who have casual sex need to be diligent about any type of STD. I don't have casual sex. I realize that doesn't protect me from getting it from someone who doesn't know they have it, but the incidence of people contracting herpes from people who have had no outbreaks and are completely unaware of carrying the virus is not that high.. I believe you are exagerating and fear mongering, basically. I am not unreasonably scared of it or any STD, but I do think people need to behave sensibly and rationally, and I think the hyperbole in some of the posts here amount to fear mongering.
msg 132: What you are trying to do to me is extremely odious. Such behavior, what you are trying to insinuate, is the type of thing that keeps people from engaging in discussions about sensitive subjects. Deep shame on you...
"Man. I just don't get it. The same people that prattle about judging people. Do it till they are blue in the face." Judging people is exactly what you are doing. Not to mention trying to manipulate what people say so you can hurt and humilate them. I'm a complete stranger to you; we've never exchanged a thought: why would you try to hurt me? | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 12:51:48 PM | So are you admitting you have herpes?
I'm admitting I have HSV, but it's not really a shocking admission. I tell people all the time. Considering 80% of us have it, i'm not viewed any differently. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 1:10:28 PM |
I don't have casual sex.
It takes one person, and remember condoms don't fully protect either. You don't have to be promiscuous to contract GHSV, the virus does not discriminate against how many sexual partners you have had. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 1:22:09 PM | | I'm not talking about being promiscuous. I'm talking about not being casual...about getting to know someone well before becoming intimate. It's a concept many people don't seem to get anymore. I realize it only takes one partner for a person to contract an STD,but a partner who has most likely lied to you, or a partner who won't use protection, and/or someone a person hasn't taken the time to really get to know. All I am trying to say in this thread is that the posts that suggest 90% of people have herpes misleads people into thinking it is genital herpes, or at least engages in fear mongering in that it misleads people into thinking that they will get genital herpes because so many people have oral herpes. The fact that 50 to 80 percent of the population have oral herpes virus yet only 20% have genital herpes makes it obvious that carriers of oral herpes don't very often give the virus to their sexual partners, at least not genitally. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 1:51:47 PM | | Hi do what you want or yo may regeret it if you didn't. But fortunately there is a cure..... Just like there is a cure for aids and ppl don't die from aids. He needs to see an herbalist. Find someone who works with essential oils for the breakouts. He needs to do a colon cleanse, parasite cleanse, blood cleanser, candida cleanse and a heavy metal. Make sure you do it in the right order. He needs a full body detox and maybe some fasting as well like a master cleanse or colon cleanse that requires a fast to clean out his system entirely. Remember before anything a colon cleanse is needed because it can still sit in his colon and one day have a breakout. I really dont think that you should have sex with him yet until his system is cleaned. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 2:55:03 PM |
He was very drunk and slept with her
Suuuure. that's what they all say
And the same strain that causes a canker sore/cold sore, can appear on a girls vagina if you go down on her. So alot of gals may have it, and not even know, from letting their mate eat their vag while they had an unnoticeable cold sore.
yet another reason not to let guys go down on me | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 3:23:31 PM |
The herpes issue really hasn't came up. It's like we're pretending it doesn't exist.
This relationship started in 1993. The truth is, we still love each other. What would YOU do?
Seeing as how the OP has left the building, let's just answer the question generally.
I wouldn't try to reconcile if I KNEW that she was a carrier of herpes. That has the whole "ew" and "ick" factor about it. I'm disease free and proud of that fact...I have kept myself clean from such things for 35 years now, and there's no way I'd risk that for anyone...especially if I KNEW they were a carrier.
People can talk about all the creams and tonics they want, and how we "all have herpes in some way" but I don't subscribe to that. Herpes is a disease. Herpes can be passed from one partner to another. Trying to time the outbreaks, and work around the disease is not for me.
People with herpes go on to live normal, active lives and all...but I can't see myself ever being sexually active with any of them. It sounds harsh, but reality is reality...it's a disease and one I don't wanna be saddled with because of someone else's bad decisions in life. One doesn't just wake up and POW they have herpes...so I can't put myself in a bad or compromising position because of their bad decisions prior to me.
I'm "clean" and expect no less from my partner. Not an outrageous expectation in the least.
JMO. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 6:05:27 PM | | You know the irony is that there are those with genital herpes who will never own up. When they get involved with a man/woman they don't tell because the meds do prevent breakouts. So it's the judgement of those who believe that you are a misguided slut that creates these lies ( I'm not condoning it but hey I've had herpes on my lip for a lifetime and shingles, not because I did anything other then be kissed by someone and when you get the chicken pox as a child the virus stays in the system.... oral herpes, chicken pox, shingles, genital herpes is one huge happy family spreading the love) but don't write yourself off as being cautious when you can easily have a girlfriend/boyfriend who is a carrier and won't own up to the fact.... the meds now days prevent outbreaks and these people feel the tingle way before the outbreak... I feel the tingle on my lip once a year maybe... chewing on the lips or sunburns as well as illness bring them out... but no one with a nasty sore is gonna kiss me till it clears up.... | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 6:10:39 PM | Would I be with a girl who slept with a male stripper without a condom and got herpes....
I'm not even going to dignify that with a response....
My penis doesn't want herpes. It likes being able to pee in the morning without catching on fire.
I would sing fire woman by the cult at dedicate it to her. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 6:49:10 PM | Latigra,
Pretending like he doesn't have herpes is the thing that concerns me.
I think i'd have to talk this out face to face with him and get it completely out in the open because it involves you no matter how you look at it.
I know you know that he has herpes forever and there are necessary precautions to take along with a pill.
What i'm afraid of is that since you two still love each other that you'll both end up in the sack without taking necessary precautions and then after your done, you'll lie there and die inside because now you've been exposed.
So, be careful, talk it out completely and don't let your emotions and being horney get in the way of knowing better.........lest you don't mind kicking yourself in the ass. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/6/2009 8:33:45 PM | Msg 132: You are so totally wrong in your post. Where to start?
My insurance paid for my test. wrong there.
I am an RN. wrong there. My experience is in Telemetry, Med Surg, Hospice, ICU, Home Health, Rehabilitation, Long term Care, Geriatrics, Gastro, Cardio, Respiratory,and Orthopedics.
The stripper had unprotected sex. She didnt care that she gave him herpes, and Ive known a few strippers, prostitutes, who intended to inflict everyone they could, with the diseases that will ultimately kill them. Aids victims are not always apparent. Sometimes they dont even know it themselves for 10-15 years. AIDS is an aquired, accumulation of diseases. It is aquired, so at some point you do "catch it". remember, through sharing needles, etc? You were taught at least that much in school. so, wrong there. Again.
The rest of your post is just drivel. | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/7/2009 9:39:44 AM | I don't think I would fall for a person with genital herpes or any kind of social deseases. KNock on wood, if it happened while I am married to him then I will not have sex with him... Come to think of it the Love of my life is ME  | |
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| What if the love of your life has genital herpes?
Posted: 6/7/2009 10:05:35 AM | So many here are acting like the "majority" of people have HSV and don't even know it. Excuse me but 1 out of 4 in women and 1 out of 5 in men is NOT a majority. Yes, there is a lot of fear mongering going on here.
Those who are judging those who are judging are really being very ironic when you consider it. Here they are telling others who have a very strong aversion to the idea that they are somehow judgmental. How does NOT wanting to contract an illness or virus constitute judgment? Come on people! We aren't in preschool here. There is absolutely NO moral issues in having a fear of getting a virus which causes suffering. Judging the former for having these feelings is the ironic part...you are doing the very same thing you are denigrating them for. Pffft...nonsensical, I think.
Any google will get you the symptoms and causes of HSV so I doubt it even needs to be on these boards where most of us are full fledged adults who know how to inform ourselves. If singles aren't being cautious or at least informed about the potential risks associated with STD's and STI's...that isn't for anyone here to facilitate.
And here in Canada, we get tested for HSV if we and STD pack done. And yes, they can detect the virus...duh! What would be the point of a test if they couldn't?
Remember, it isn't the majority of people who have it but a minority. 20% is hardly reason to go around incorporating everyone as carriers of this virus. And anyone who thinks it has anything to do with promiscuity is being ignorant (as if that wasn't obvious) and trying to assuage their fears of getting it by telling themselves that if they are careful, they will not contract this dastardly evil virus. We all know that it exists and I think most people can be given the credit of taking some precaution, myself being one of them...but yes! the more partners someone has had, the more likely they are to have come in contact with it. Keep in mind that doesn't mean they HAVE it. Automatically assuming someone gets it by virtue of having slept with someone who does is equally ignorant.
And before someone comes off spewing rhetoric about how the statistics are only relevant to those who have been tested and confirmed positive, well duh! Anyone with an IQ can understand that. Regardless, 90% of all cases are confirmable through the very fact that they HAVE visible symptoms at any given time. Exercising caution safeguards many from contracting it. | |
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