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 themadfiddler

Joined: 10/16/2006
Msg: 26
halloween??? Another hallmark holiday!
Posted: 11/4/2006 2:00:33 PM
I knew that "certain poster" was really from Scotland! I knew it! From a wee phonetically-compressed bothy, near a wee kirk, near wee, Compressed Aberdeen, right? Thanks for clearing that up for me! You know I bet he gets a lot of compression from all that wool and lanolin.

What is compressed Scots Gaelic for velcro gloves?

ROFLMAO

 redfishbluefish

Joined: 12/22/2005
Msg: 27
halloween??? Another hallmark holiday!
Posted: 11/4/2006 2:15:22 PM
weel laddy,

I dinna ken fra whar yon numpty hails

Och but aye, tis the wool in the britch
thats the cause o his compression
and maks the pagans balls itch.
 Catin3hat

Joined: 6/14/2006
Msg: 28
Pagan New Year!
Posted: 11/4/2006 2:51:45 PM
I'm a solitary practitioner and rarely attend group rituals. Usually I cast my circle outside (I prefer to do my rituals in nature whenever possible) and after I ground myself and draw up energy I meditate on the past year - the ups, down, and I remember those loved ones who have died. I take a look at my life and where it is headed - what I'm doing wrong and right. I keep a firm visual of what I need to improve and I right it down and burn it. As it burns I visualize me being "freed" of those things. Then I take some string (colors correspond with what I'm doing) and knot it while thinking of my goals for the new year. Then I burn it as well visualizing those goals coming to fruition. Then I take time to recognize and thank my goddess and god.
 Druie

Joined: 3/16/2006
Msg: 29
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Posted: 11/7/2006 3:13:54 PM
there's actually been some debate as to whether or not Samhain is the Celtic New Year. Note, I said "Celtic". I know of Celtic Reconstructions and Gaelic Traditionalists who will dispute the placement of New Year's at the time of Samhain.

In many other pagan traditions (namely the Reconstructionists) Oct 31st is not New Year's for them.

For me, it's the Winter Solstice. Samhain (or Velines if you are a Balt) for me is when the ancestor spirits leave the fields and enter the family home for the duration of the winter months. From November 2nd to the Spring Equinox the Ancestor Spirits dwell in the family home.

The Solstice is my New Year's, as that is when we sing our strength back to the Sun, so that she can be reborn, and gradually gain strength until she is at full strength at the Summer Solstice.
 JMars

Joined: 10/14/2006
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Posted: 11/8/2006 3:25:02 PM
Anglo-Saxon "reconstructionists" often debate whether Harvest or Yule was the beginning of the new year. It's primarily based on the knowledge that the Germanic folk reckoned the passage of a day from sunset to sunset, ie. from darkness to light. Likewise, in what creation tales we have the movement is from darkness to light.

Thus, Harvest is the sunset of the year, while Yule is, like, midnight... with Easter being morning and Litha/Midsummer being noon.

I'm not sure what I think about the matter. Everyone in society at large seems to reckon it at Yuletide, so that works for me.
 JMars

Joined: 10/14/2006
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Posted: 11/13/2006 11:41:23 PM
I wouldn't sweat the ideas of Heaven and Hell too much. They are heathen Anglo-Nordic terms and concepts that merely represented the closest cultural equivalent to the Biblical Garden of Eden and Gehenna.

In fact, the entire idea of an otherworldly afterlife is, ahem, "pan-pagan" in origin. According to the Bible, a product of Judaic (OT) and Judeo-Hellenistic (NT) culture, a time shall arrive when the dead are resurrected and judged by the Judaic deity. Those that are found wanting shall be *annihilated* in a lake of fire, called Gehenna after a Middle Eastern garbage dump. For those few found worthy, the Garden of Eden shall be recreated for them to enjoy eternity.

This belief is the product of one particular culture of man, which has no more or less merit than the beliefs of any other ethnic culture of man. It is what one particular culture of people have come to believe as a result of their long historical experience and indigenous relationship with the Godhead... all expressed in the language, metaphor and, well, the culture of that specific group and thus precision tuned for that cultural group.

At anyrate, it's hard to take some people seriously once you start getting alittle insight into what they are talking about and realise that they don't really know what they are talking about.

And really, what deity worthy of the title would want a following made up of scared and broken sheep doing what he/she wills merely out of base, animalistic fear? What about out of love? Respect? Duty? Or some other quality that actually shows off the divine potential within Man and makes him/her worthy of his/her Creator/s.
 FilmmakerMike

Joined: 7/28/2005
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Posted: 11/15/2006 5:22:06 AM
It is also somewhat complicated for current archaeologists to determine what part the lunar cycle whcih runs slightly off from the solar cycle in the Pagan calendar, yet was clearly notated and integrated into the Druid Coligny calendar on a seven year basis in which both Solar and Lunar cycles synched up.

So our current dating of the Pagan(s) New Year is most likely off, to what degree and among what Pagan populations there is still some disagreement.

The agrarian Pagans may have had a different New year from the fishing Pagans. The 12 days of "christmas" also have a pagan Solar-Lunar countdown meaning.

Soon we shall return to the first European calendar, the Pagan Coligny Calendar and re-set our years to the Coligny calendar and not some middle eastern Judeo-Islamic-Christian religion's calendar (Georgrian, Julian, etc).




University of Leister - archaeoastronomy
http://www.le.ac.uk/archaeology/rug/aa/a3015/lec6.html

The Celtic word for November and December were called "Dumannios" which meant "The Darkest Depths"

We are entering the power of Morrigan the Goddess of War, an early European Goddess.



The Witching Hour is approaching.
 SweetTreat

Joined: 11/15/2005
Msg: 33
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Posted: 2/19/2007 12:20:24 AM

I performed many of what was posted here, except for what is known as a "Dumb Supper".


I gotta ask, what is "Dumb Supper"?
 misty02

Joined: 4/20/2007
Msg: 34
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Posted: 4/24/2007 2:01:45 AM
many traditions subscribe to similar practices. But they also hold it sacred as the veil between the spirit and physical relam is thinnest and its when we honor those who have passed on with offerings and traditions as well as connect with spirits. It is sacred and very highly regarded....which is why Christians create All Saints Day Nov. 1st.....
 seriouslyfunnylady

Joined: 5/10/2005
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Posted: 4/24/2007 6:04:30 AM
Sorry Sweet, I guess I didn't see this or I would have answered.

A Dumb Supper has to do with setting a place for the departed to join the table.

Here is an article about it. If you do a search you will find other articles as well.

http://www.widdershins.org/vol7iss5/02.htm
 SweetTreat

Joined: 11/15/2005
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Posted: 5/1/2007 10:13:09 AM

Sorry Sweet, I guess I didn't see this or I would have answered.

A Dumb Supper has to do with setting a place for the departed to join the table.


No problem Sfl... that's a really neat thing tho.... is t more of like symbolizing/ respecting the departed or do they actually join you? Like can you feel their presence, do they make their presence known, etc.
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