| Flu Shots
Posted: 10/28/2007 2:09:12 PM | | Will you get a flu shot this year? | |
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| Flu Shots
Posted: 10/28/2007 2:24:35 PM |
Will you get a flu shot this year?
Nope.
It interests me that this question keeps coming up. There seems to be a real marketing machine pushing this on us nowadays. It wasn't like that when I left Canada to live overseas years ago, and it certainly is striking now, so I guess there's been some incremental buildup that I thankfully missed.
I sometimes wonder if all this flu-shot pushing is an attempt to raise public awareness so it'll be easier to get people to take action when H5N1 (or some other variant of killer flu) finally adapts to spread directly between people. I don't see any other sensible reason for this. The vast majority of humanity (including me) has got along fine without mass influenza immunization and it's not any kind of killer disease.
But then my more cynical side tells me - nah it's probably just the usual greed machine pushing stuff on us that we don't really need.
In any case, I'll decline to inject myself with a vaccine that has little benefit, in favour of trying to be generally healthy (see above comments about diet, etc.) | |
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Posted: 10/28/2007 6:02:43 PM | | Yep, I've already gotten mine. The last time I didn't take a flu shot was about 12 yrs. ago, and it was the last time I had the flu. I hate feeling so horrible. | |
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Pucks
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Joined: 10/14/2006
Msg: 29 | |
| Flu Shots
Posted: 10/28/2007 6:30:16 PM | I see that many here say they get the flu shot due to working with people, children or in envrionments of providing care.
This is not the only reason to get a flu shot.
Flu shots are good protection to anyone with a weakened immune system.
There also valuable to people with chronic conditions.
In Canada they are Free if you meet these requirements.
There are so many autoimmune diseases that qualify. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2007 9:54:41 PM | Nope I won't.
If I ever find myself getting to the point where I get sick easily, or at least more then once in um... years. Then I might.
Now my old roommate he should get one, he was sick monthly. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2007 11:55:08 PM | | check out www.vaclib.org I think I would rather get the flu than continually be immersed in aluminum and mercury. These toxins will eventually lower your immunity not to mention mental function. | |
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Posted: 10/29/2007 11:34:57 AM | no, i never have and i've never missed an adult day of work b/c of sickness either but i respect those who believe they do need a flu shots
i don't know why i don't get sick maybe healthy eating, lots of exercise or maybe a little dirt a day does ya good | |
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Posted: 10/29/2007 1:24:56 PM | | I do and they work | |
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Posted: 10/29/2007 7:49:45 PM | I had one a couple yrs ago and was sick for 2 weeks after. been nervous to get one since.
I worked with someone who got a bad flu and it went into her heart and she ended up really sick. The specialist she saw told her that she should never eat mandarin oranges. Said the flu comes in fro Asia on the mandarins...anyone heard of this? | |
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Posted: 10/30/2007 1:23:37 AM | | I usually get the flu and it's awful, so this year I'm getting the flu shot. Last year it hit me very suddenly at christmas dinner. I was feeling a bit under the weather but attributed it more to the bordom of being off school. Christmas day I felt better, and just as dessert was being served I all of a sudden felt very tired and achy and generally awful. My cousin went home to check on her dog after dinner and dropped me off at home on her way. I went to bed right away, freezing cold under a million blankets and in flannel pj's. a couple hours later I woke up, the blankets were all on the floor and the buttons on my pj's were all undone. Took my temp and I had a fever of about 102. Advil and a cold cloth helped bring it down, for the next few days I went from feeling freezing cold to boiling hot (my temp stayed at about 100-102) . I also ached all over, had a sore throat and cough and all that. By the time I got into the dr, my symptoms were getting better. It did cause me to miss New Year's Eve though, which sucked. The year before that it hit me right at the begining of reading week. Before that, in January. There was one time in high school where it hit me in the middle of the day as well. I had just changed classes and wasn't feeling so great and was debating whether or not I should go home when my teacher came in and said I looked pretty sick and asked if I was ok. I decided at that point to go home. I got an appointment with my doctor late in the day. I can't remember what my temp was then but it was high enough for her to say if I couldn't get to the blood testing clinic before it closed I should go to the hospital and get tested for the flu. (I made it there in time but almost didn't come out... I came very close to passing out). | |
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El Efe
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Joined: 12/7/2006
Msg: 36 | |
| Flu Shots
Posted: 10/30/2007 6:10:37 AM |
I do and they work
How do you know?
I had myself vaccinated yesterday for the first time in almost ten years simply because I wanted to get out of the office for a bit. I haven't had the flu in over 20 years.
I think my immune system is bulletproof.
F. | |
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Posted: 10/31/2007 4:39:17 PM | There seems to be some confusion when it comes to flu shots or vaccines.
Before they inject me, I want to know two things:
* Do they actually work?
* What is in these vaccines?
Well, after doing some research, I discovered two facts:
1 > Vaccines have NOT been proven to work and NOT proven to be safe.
2 > Here is a list of whats in these vaccines:
Ammonium Sulfate (salt) - suspected in gastrointestinal (GI), liver, nerve and respiratory system poison
Beta-propiolactone - known to cause cancer. Suspected GI, liver, respiratory, skin and sense organ poison
Genetically modified yeast, animal, bacterial and viral DNA - Can be incorporated into recepint’s DNA and cause unknown genetic mutations
Latex rubber - can cause life threatening allergic reaction
MSG - (glutamate, glutamic acid) being studied for mutagenic, teratogenic (developmental malformation and monstrosities) and reproductive effects. A neurotoxin. Allergic reactions can range from mild to severe.
Aluminum - implicated as a cause of brain damage; suspected factor in Alzheimer’s disease, dementias, seizures and comas. Allergic reactions can occur on skin.
Formaldehyde - (formalin) major constituent of embalming fluid; poisonous if ingested. Probable carcinogen; suspected GI, liver, immune system, nerve, reproductive system and respiratory poison. Linked to leukemia, brain, colon and lymphatic cancer.
Micro-organisms - live and killed bacteria and viri or their toxins. The polio vaccine was contaminated with a monkey virus now turning up in human bone, lung lining (mesothelioma) brain tumors and lymphomas.
Polysorbate 80 - known to cause cancer in animals
Tri(n)butyl phosphate - suspected kidney and nerve poison
Glutaraldehyde - Poisonous if ingested. Causes birth defects in experimental animals
Gelatin - produced from selected pieces of calf and cattle skin, deminerlaized cattle bones and pork skin. Allergic reactions have been reported.
Gentamicin sulfate & polymeric B - Allergic reactions can range from mild to life threatening.
Mercury - (thimerosal) - one of the most poisonous substances known. Has an affinity for the brain, gut, liver, bone marrow and kidneys. Minute amounts can cause nerve damage. Symptoms of mercury toxicity are similar to autism.
Neomycin sulfate - (antibiotic) interferes with vitamin B6 absorption. An error in the uptake of B6 can cause a rare form of epilepsy and mental retardation. Allergic reactions can be mild to life threatening.
Phenol/phenoxyethanol - (2pe) used as an antifreeze. Toxic to all cells and capable of disabling the immune system’s primary response mechanism.
Human and animal cells - human cells from aborted fetal tissue and human albumin. Pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain, guinea pig, dog kidney, cow heart, monkey kidney, chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg, calf serum, sheep blood and others.
“A major cause of the Roman Empire decline, after six centuries of world dominance was its replacement of stone aqueducts by lead pipes for the transport and supply of drinking water. Roman engineers, the best in the world, turned their fellow citizens into neurological cripples.
Today our own “best and brightest” with the best of intentions, achieve the same end through childhood vaccination programs yielding the modern scourge of hyperactivity, learning disabilities, autism, appetite disorders, and impulsive violence.”
- Harris Coulter, Ph.D.
FLU SHOT? NAH, I THINK I'LL PASS ! | |
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Posted: 10/31/2007 11:03:06 PM | I am 36 and have been getting flu shots every single year since I was 5 yrs old.
I now have two children and they have been getting flu shots since they were two yrs old and will continue to do so.
The shots are free in Ontario, our employer actually brings in a nurse to do the entire office and shop staff (whomever wishes to have one) and I take the kids to any one of the free clinics at local drugstores each year.
I have never had any issue after getting the shot, nor have my children and I can honestly say throughout my life thus far I have been sick very, very, very few times; example, in last 10 yrs I have missed 1 day due to illness and it was not the flu (ate some bad food). Missed three other days due to recovery from operation; that is it.
My daughter never gets sick either. My son, he has had the flu twice over the years (he is almost 12 now), but the two times he did have it, wasn't bad at all and recovered quite quickly.
I am definitely a flu shot advocate. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 9:42:28 AM | I trust my own immune system before I’d take a chance on the vaccine matching 24%of last year’s flu. Of course they can’t protect you from this year’s flu because it takes 6-9 months to develop a vaccine for a new strain.
How well did they do last year?
"The influenza A (H1) component of the 2006-07 flu vaccine was well matched to circulating influenza A (H1) viruses, which accounted for the majority of influenza viruses tested by CDC. There are two groups of influenza B viruses currently circulating, which are known as the B/Yamagata lineage viruses and the B/Victoria lineage viruses. The 2006-07 vaccine contained a B virus from the B/Victoria lineage and 77% of the viruses tested by CDC were from the B/Victoria lineage. Fifty percent of the influenza B viruses characterized as belonging to the B/Victoria lineage were well matched to the influenza B component of the 2006-07 flu vaccine. In the early months of the season, the majority of influenza A (H3) viruses circulating in the country matched the influenza A (H3N2) component of the 2006–07 vaccine. However, the proportion of H3N2 viruses similar to the H3N2 vaccine component declined as the season progressed. Overall for the 2006-07 season, 24 percent of H3N2 viruses were well matched to the vaccine strain."
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/0607season.htm
So for all you that think it helps… you won’t get 24% of last years flu’s that you’ve most likely already developed your own resistance to. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 12:15:28 PM | | I know I need to get one soon | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 2:46:02 PM | No flu shots for me.
I just can't think they are good for me.
I DID have a mild flu last year, but no worse than what I've seen some people get from the vaccine itself. Certainly not bad enough to make me rethink my decision.
I have no problem with others choices to get one. We all have our beliefs about how to care for ourselves. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 8:42:08 PM | ^^^^ Ditto to what Castaline said.
I use to get shots as a kid but I don't even bother as an Adult. When I don't work out or eat right or generally ignore ME, I've gotten sick.
Do the reverse, I can be around a lot of nasties and be fine. Depends on the person, what you do in life. Good on ya if you get them; Good on ya if you don't.
Besides, the only needles I like near me are tattoo needles or the 10 yr shot ('cause I like to camp).
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Posted: 11/1/2007 10:06:08 PM | | I don't. Because I trust my body can take care of itself without unnecessary vaccinations & medications. | |
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Pucks
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Joined: 10/14/2006
Msg: 44 | |
| Flu Shots
Posted: 11/2/2007 3:30:38 PM | ^^^thats just fine and peachy if your in good health.
But those who chronic conditions or have autoimmune disorders are usually instructed by their doctor to get the flu shot as their systems are compromised. | |
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Posted: 11/8/2007 8:01:55 PM | I have had the flu shots in recent years as I have asthma but it didn't help me one bit last winter. I was sick on and off for 3 months with bronchitis which developed into pneumonia and antibiotics helped for a week and then BAM, I would be hit with another infection, more antibiotics and get better briefly until the cycle started over again. I would take a week or two off work, go back and then get hit again. It was a bad year for me.
This year I'm debating whether to get the flu shot or not. I'm looking more into taking preventative natural remedies and Cold FX preventatively.
My pharmacist, who believes in natural remedies, told me that taking 1000 mg or more of Vitamin D, and fish oil daily has helped him prevent a cold or flu when he felt his throat was scratchy.
I have also heard that two of the three strains in this years vaccine has already mutated so the vaccine would not be as effective this year anyway.
I know that I need to eat more healthy to build up my immune system as eating too many sugars, etc. puts a strain on the body. | |
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Posted: 11/9/2007 6:41:37 PM | QUOTE:
My pharmacist, who believes in natural remedies, told me that taking 1000 mg or more of Vitamin D3 and fish oil daily has helped him prevent a cold or flu when he felt his throat was scratchy.
I agree with this statement totally, however, for the winter months I would up the Vitamin D3 to 2000I.U. per day (minimum) and at least 2000mg of fish oil per day as well, and lots of Vitamin C!! (1000mg 5 times per day)
For the Asthma, Bromelain, CoQ10, Alpha Lipoic Acid, and lots of dark green vegetable juice. (Chlorophyll)
(I'm actually quite surprised that a pharmacist told you about Vit D. That is interesting). | |
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Posted: 11/9/2007 8:56:38 PM | Flu Vaccine Is Of No Benefit To The Elderly:
http://www.docguide.com/news/content.nsf/news/852571020057CCF68525737D004E652F?OpenDocument&id=7E37A0A9D91E88198525733C0043F073&c=&count=10 | |
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Patosu
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Joined: 8/30/2007
Msg: 48 | |
| Flu Shots
Posted: 11/10/2007 7:17:34 PM | I'm 51...I've been living in the US since 1988...NEVER HAD A FLU SHOT...does not get the flu. I feast on NONI Juice and now there HIRO Vitality (pronounced hero)...the first and ONLY Energy Drink/Functional Beverage that helps to build the immune system...No added sugar...no added calories and fortified with Noni juice.
Check around your neighbourhood see if there is any distributors there. We are now permitted to place said product in select stores. For more information about noni go to http://www.NoniHealthInfo.com | |
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Posted: 11/10/2007 9:03:17 PM | I don't get them and never will.
Reason. Once you start to get the shots, then you have to keep getting them each year or you will actually have more problems with getting sick, rather then if you never started getting them. Your injecting the virus into your body, it can backfire on a person bigtime and I'm more healthy letting my body do it's natural thing without the shots. I don't get sick very often and if I do, then so be it.
No shots for me, no thanks. | |
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Posted: 11/10/2007 9:25:48 PM | Why is it ppl say "they have to?"
I work in a clinic with hundreds of sick ppl everyday...and I don't get a flu shot, not does any of the doctors in my office say "I have to"
I think without knowing both sides of the proverbial fence, one is only going to do what their doctor or society encourages them to do.
It is against my constitutional right to have someone TELL me I HAVE to inject junk into my body....cold day in hell that would happen for me...IMO...because I have researched and looked at both sides of the fence.
Can't remember whether Lyrical Girl brought this up...but did you know that the companies who produce the vaccine look at the air currents and try to decide (haphazardly I might add)
which flu bugs may or may not come into North America...and then they decide which ones are going to be the worst of them all, then take 5 of those viruses and produce a vaccine.
ewwwwww...it just sounds wrong...at least for me | |
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