| Flu Shots Posted: 11/11/2007 12:44:28 AM | | I would NEVER get innoculated with that poison... NO WAY!!!! | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/11/2007 11:27:26 AM | | Just got one last week at the VA hospital in Miami and she gave me a couple of tootsi rolls! Since they are free and because of my age I thought it was a good idea to get one. | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/11/2007 1:53:02 PM | does anyone know where or if there is any info on Health Canada accepting a homeopathic version for the flu shot for work purposes?
How does one get around the fact that my doctor advises me against the flu shot, yet I need it for work?
Anyone know the answers to these questions? | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/12/2007 3:58:15 AM | Funny how people view the flue shot. It's either a completely necessary thing that no human being should be without, or it's the worst thing you can put into your body next to cyanide. Almost no middle ground. Am I the only one who find that funny?
I'm getting my flu shot on Wednesday. | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/12/2007 7:09:58 AM |
How does one get around the fact that my doctor advises me against the flu shot, yet I need it for work?
You don't mention the reason that your physician won't let you get a flu shot. However, if it is based on a medical condition you have, that it would be detrimental to your health. That always supersedes the work requirement for one.
All you need is a physician's note for your employer. | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/12/2007 1:47:05 PM | My understanding is that Health Canada does support the use of homeopathics for immunizations...but whether it's alright for the "flu" shot...I'm not certain.
If you live in Edmonton...drop me a line, and I can set you up with a number to a doctor who would know. That or call your Health region authority and pose the question to them. | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/12/2007 3:18:38 PM | | i don't, full of crap, killing you slowly... | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/13/2007 9:34:42 PM | You flu shot conspiracy theorists make even Dr. Fill laugh.
Fifty million people died in the flu pandemic in the early 1900’s. Over half the deaths in 1918 were between the ages of 20-40; healthy young adults. While the state of your health is extremely important in fighting disease the ONLY way your body can build up the antibodies that provide protection to the flu is to be exposed to the flu.
This is where the flu shot comes in; especially for people with weakened and impaired immune systems. The shot contains dead pathogens to build antibodies against the possibility of a live pathogen attack. You cannot catch the flu from dead pathogens. | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/14/2007 12:14:02 PM |
Who gets them?
My mother is in a nursing home so does get a flu shot but i do not get them yet.
Why or why not?
I should start getting them too. | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/14/2007 12:37:56 PM |
Fifty million people died in the flu pandemic in the early 1900’s. Over half the deaths in 1918 were between the ages of 20-40; healthy young adults. While the state of your health is extremely important in fighting disease the ONLY way your body can build up the antibodies that provide protection to the flu is to be exposed to the flu.
Flu shots only provide limited protection against a few specific strains of flu - and those are guaranteed not to include H5N1 or any other that causes a pandemic, because such will always be freshly mutated variants.
You *might* get lucky and be partially and temporarily protected because the strains in your jab just happen to be similar to the new killer strain. But then that could be true from any natural immunity you develop, too - which you won't have if you've been taking the easy way out and getting flu shots every year. Me, I'll take my chances with the natural route. If they have an actual working vaccine against killer flu when it appears, then I'll reconsider.
Incidentally, I recall reading a theory that one of the reasons the 1918 flu only affected 20-40 year olds was because almost everybody over the age of 38 had already been exposed to a previous strain which was similar. Food for thought... | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/14/2007 12:49:20 PM | | I got mine this year....I haven't in years past, but I don't want to get sick this year... | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/14/2007 7:22:03 PM | Good point Traveller
I understand the notion of mutating strains and I know shots provide limited protection to specific strains. The information in you second paragraph is why the 20-40 had little protection; they weren’t “lucky” enough to have had exposure to a similar strain years before. The flu shot is this exposure.
And you get to meet nurses at the same time…lol  | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/17/2007 6:01:24 AM | | I always get them and have never had the flu since. | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/17/2007 3:09:09 PM | Here is an article on Dr. Rebecca Carley. She states that vaccines don't stop disease, they actually cause disease, including cancer and all Autoimmune disorders. Its well worth reading.
http://www.drcarley.com/
Anyone who reads this, as well as other "truthful" articles should think twice about getting vaccinated, the evidence is overwhelming. Gary Null just released his new documentary entitled "Vaccine-Nation". He states vaccines cause Autism in children, as well as ADD, ADHD, and other disorders. He sent 7ooo copies to senators, governors, and to the news media. He got one reply. Govenor Schwarzenegger said "I got your film, I watched it, and its shocking". | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/17/2007 4:50:15 PM | Careful when you assume a website credible: In July 2003, the New York State Board for Professional Medical Conduct (BPMC) found Rebecca Lee Roczen, M.D. (a.k.a Rebecca Lee Carley, M.D) guilty of "practicing while impaired by a mental disability" and "having a psychiatric condition which impaired her ability to practice medicine." Her medical license was suspended for five years with a provision that her ability to practice could be restored after one year if she sought psychiatric treatment and the psychiatrist recommended that she be considered fit to practice again. It has not been restored.
Gary Null’s credentials also come under scrutiny; one of his degrees was obtained at Thomas A. Edison State College where there is no resident faculty, no campus, no classrooms, and no library.
Easy on the vitamins there Doc | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/17/2007 5:09:07 PM | Dr. Fill, your statement is not credible, for if it was, you would have some proof?
You know as well as I that the charges are completely BOGUS, and as for Gary Nulls credentials, man you must be kidding. He knows more about health than anyone else. He also has the most popular radio program in history, with over 30 million listeners.
Here is another article concerning vaccines and children:
http://www.thinktwice.com/secret.htm
Fill, do you work for some pharma company? | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/17/2007 5:28:06 PM | Hey nutjob
Read the disclaimer at the bottom of the website:
DISCLAIMER The decision regarding whether or not to vaccinate is a personal one. The authors of the Thinktwice Global Vaccine Institute are neither lawyers nor health practitioners, and make no claims in this regard. Therefore, none of the information on this website should be construed as legal or medical advice. Nor does anyone associated with this website recommend for or against vaccines. If you have questions regarding any of the information on this website, research immunizations to a greater degree so that you can make a wise and informed choice.
Get a life | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/17/2007 8:52:20 PM | | Name-calling will not be tolerated. | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/18/2007 11:30:33 AM | Here is a video that everyone should see. It is about vaccines.
Vaccines caused AIDS:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18741.htm | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/18/2007 1:39:36 PM | Even those with strong immune systems are vulnerable to strains of influenza, sometimes with deadly results. The problem with flu shots is not that they don't work, but rather that production of the current vaccine is based on predictions made earlier as to which strains will be active in the upcoming flu season, thus allowing time to manufacture the vaccine. These predictions are not always correct, resulting in shots that don't always protect against strains that actually show up.
Still, the predictions are accurate often enough that the modest cost of a shot is well worth it in my opinion. I'm all for "strengthening" my immune system, but I think there's more hokum when it comes to herbal methods than in vaccinations, and I don't believe in homeopathy. I exercise regularly and maintain a healthy diet, eating as little processed food as possible, limiting meat and dairy and other saturated fat, and growing my own vegetables. The fact that I haven't suffered flu symptoms in 15 years is probably more due to taking shots and avoiding rugrats than to my lifestyle.
When I was deployed to Louisiana following Katrina, instead of buying herbals at Whole Foods I received a battery of immunizations against microbial nasties. It was my choice, and I believe I made the correct one, regardless of the the state of my immune system.
Msg. 37:
“A major cause of the Roman Empire decline, after six centuries of world dominance was its replacement of stone aqueducts by lead pipes for the transport and supply of drinking water. Roman engineers, the best in the world, turned their fellow citizens into neurological cripples.
This is simply not true. Lead poisoning was known from at least 2000BC on, so the Romans were not unaware of the danger. Lead hydraulics, being much more expensive than stone or terra cotta, were not a major component of aqueducts, although they were used elsewhere. Buildup from calcium carbonate and other minerals tended to provide a protective layer over lead plumbing ("plumbing", from "plumbum", which is the Latin word for lead, hence the chemical symbol Pb). Lead poisoning was known, however, from lead acetate which was used to sweeten wine; and from leaching of lead from eating and drinking vessels, especially in the presence of acidic food or drink. | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/18/2007 6:02:09 PM | The above quote, concerning the decline of the Roman Empire, was quoted by Harris Coulter, PH. D. -- very knowledgeable person, and author.(check his biography). Its very unlikely that his quote was "simply not true". However, everyone seems to be missing the point entirely on vaccines. The point is, besides containing many toxic poisons, they contain DNA from monkeys and other animals. That DNA can alter YOUR DNA, and that can lead to many serious issues. **Whether the vaccines work or not means nothing if they give you AIDS, or CANCER, or ANY OF THE AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES.** | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/19/2007 8:35:41 AM | | Flu shots are another US hoax. Everyone here is brainwashed concerning everything. I have never had a flu shot and have never had the flu, and I have worked with children and sick people all my life. But the pharmaceutical companies are making a bundle. They have everyone in the US taking so many medications it is rediculous. Just go to a nursing home and see how many pills they stuff down those old folks. The US has the most paranoid, brainwashed people on earth. The government keeps us that way so they can shove more stuff down our throats and convince us of what we need, like another war, more pills, more "stuff". That way we stay out of their business because we are too busy buying junk and taking pills. Fear runs this country. Fear of the flu. Fear of war. Fear. If people die from the flu, maybe it is nature's way of getting rid of the weak and letting the strong survive. | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/20/2007 6:38:35 PM | | Everyone should get one | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/20/2007 6:38:55 PM | | And it doesn't cause the flu. | |
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| Flu Shots Posted: 11/22/2007 10:13:58 PM | Anytimenow51:
Flu shots are another US hoax. Everyone here is brainwashed concerning everything. I have never had a flu shot and have never had the flu, and I have worked with children and sick people all my life. But the pharmaceutical companies are making a bundle. They have everyone in the US taking so many medications it is rediculous. Just go to a nursing home and see how many pills they stuff down those old folks. The US has the most paranoid, brainwashed people on earth. The government keeps us that way so they can shove more stuff down our throats and convince us of what we need, like another war, more pills, more "stuff". That way we stay out of their business because we are too busy buying junk and taking pills. Fear runs this country. Fear of the flu. Fear of war. Fear. If people die from the flu, maybe it is nature's way of getting rid of the weak and letting the strong survive.
I agree totally with your post. Its a shame that most people have no clue about whats really happening...yes, the word is brainwashed. | |
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