| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 1:54:14 PM | Yes, but so is trying to explain sophisticated ideas to cowboys. It evens out, I think.
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 3:56:07 PM |
Does anyone here that answered this thread actually have any contact with bulls or cows??
seems to me by reading back some of the "opinions" you disagree with are from people who grew up on cattle farms too....they just no longer profit from cattle so thier opinions arent biased that way. Also i dont think ya have to be in a rodeo/currently a cattle rancher to have an opinion...its probably best if you arent standing to profit. I still say its barbaric and unnessesary...what's fun about an animal writhing around in obvious pain? | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 5:14:33 PM | -deletes, scowling-
p.s - they aren't in pain. I've seen some get branded and not even flinch. Stop putting human emotions onto animals; it only complicates their lives. | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 5:58:27 PM | she said the animals enjoy it...while that in itself is laughable...I let her have that delusion that helps her sleep at night...its still barbaric and UNNESSESARY.
I dont believe for a minute the animals love having thier bodies abused for our entertainment...regardless of how they are treated the rest of the day.
Just my 2 cents...trying to not "complicate" animals lives...and not torture them for sport | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 6:15:40 PM | well you know.. if you have any clue about what really happens behind the scenes at a rodeo?? the bulls do like it.. it dont hurt them to buck and jump around geeze .. there is a flank strap on them it dont cause pain.. and the bull rider has a rope with some bells on it to make noise.. .. i tell ya .. if any of you out here are against this and own a cat you need a good prodding .. it is out of it's element .. and what are we to call you ??
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 6:30:27 PM | Like I said... I fully support the abuse of cowboys... Throw them.. prod them.. taunt them... they don't complain... AND they ALWAYS come back for more...even if you aren't wearing red hehe
And again... thats no bull...
No animals were harmed during this message..... | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 6:34:22 PM | Well, as a farm raised child, I used to love watching it and wanted to someday try it, BUT...
As a metaphysically,spiritually,religiously raised young man I'd have to say that Im really not sure if it's cruel, maybe, but definately ill-logical and inhumane in many ways.
God didn't put bulls on this earth to for us to torment. PERIOD!!
I think I'll head over to another thread...Anyone know where the "Hunting" thread is???
Best wishes to all.
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 6:46:18 PM | I'm certainly no expert or even a freakin' dr. dolittle, but i gotta tell ya, i would bet heavily that any animal WILL feel some kind of pain regardless of how its inflicted. Odds are good that they may not comprehend the pain as we do (but whose to say they don't) but i'm sure their brain, no matter how small, WILL still send the signals out that it motherin' hurts.
And do i support the bull riding?, as in my earlier post, its a tradition and i am always in favour of traditional values, other than that if someone wants to get on the back of 2000 lbs of meat, get bucked off, scramble your brains, break your frickin' neck, then if it works for you, then hey, have at er'... | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 7:35:15 PM | So,... by those measures, NO living thing in it's right mind enjoys any type of pain or discomfort and MAY arrive at any sort of possible pleasure from it? ( me thinks somehow "someone" will toss a sexual comment in here now,... for humans and animals !)
Hmmmm rules out all sorts of sports humans play then doesn't it? ie BOXING????
Cats scratching and biting each other in play.
Big horn sheep head butting and ramming each other,... ouch that hurts to even watch.
Yes I know you'll say they CHOOSE to do it so it is different but SOME bulls do indeed enjoy it, this I know for a fact and had friends growing up who's family raised rodeo stock and some ( yep the horses too) would start just by KNOWING they were in the chute,...NO flank strap necessary!
Probably sort of like pigeons and seagulls playing " who can we crap on next?"
oh c'mon you KNOW they do!
If the spurs ( rollers by the way) hurt then I suppose horse racing and whipping them is totally out too? ( ok it's a bat,... same diff)
no more muzzling or leashing your dogs people or trimming your cats claws.
I have seen far more injuries and even deaths to the riders than the opposite way around. | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 7:39:42 PM | WDM, I agree with you.
If this is what people want then:
Stop showing animals on television, using them in ads, movies, kids shows, etc.
No more making puppets of animals because that's mocking them.
Don't put animal pics on t-shirts, posters etc because that's using them without their permission.
No more wool sweaters because god forbid a shear accidentally snags the flesh and causes a pinhole sized drop of blood.
No more eating anything that came from an animal, was fed animal byproducts (not that you should anyways), is part of an animal or even tastes like an animal because that is humiliating.
Release your cats and dogs and guinea pigs and rabbits. Free your rats and mice and birds. Keeping them against their will is cruel.
Keep your eyes on the ground, make sure you don't accidentally squish an ant or spider.
See how ridiculous it can get? | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 7:43:51 PM | Just drop the subject. Bulls have been ridden for as long as they have, and it doesn't seem to be ending anytime soon. Cry all you want, it's just the way it is, and I'm glad it is. I cant wait to draw up on my next bull and spur the crap outa him, wont hurt him in any way shape or form, and i'll get a nice score. As far as that 'closet fudge packers' remark, now you are just being an idiot. Your profile puts you out to be one no doubt, the shoe fit's, I'm sure you wear it well. Dont like Bull Riding?, Fair deal, stay away....You talk alot of B.S punk, and if you have problems, I'M me and we can talk in private and sort it out not hiding behind a computer.
I love the bull rider remarks here, from some meatheads that have no idea on the subject.
Im getting out of this now, you guys figure it out..
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 8:05:36 PM | Hey Blu..great posts!
I think much of the negative posts towards bullriding comes from people who are envious of the courage it takes to ride a bull.
Many men are very envious of all the girls that chase rodeo cowboys, and perhaps some of them have lots their signifigant others to cowboys.
It is easier to be bitter and envious then it is to be honest.
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 8:35:07 PM | I'm just bored so i'm going to add a few more suggestions in now...if ANY animal that is slightly higher up on the food chain with even abit of intelligence, if they can feel fear, feel empathy for thier kind, stubborness, spurts of random playfullness, then for gods sake they will feel pain, its not rocket science....and yes WDM, those nasty shit hawks and pigeons really do make a game out of it, nasty little bugga's that they are, and i'm pretty sure they keep score too... | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 9:20:22 PM |
As far as that 'closet fudge packers' remark, now you are just being an idiot. Your profile puts you out to be one no doubt, the shoe fit's, I'm sure you wear it well. Dont like Bull Riding?, Fair deal, stay away....You talk alot of B.S punk, and if you have problems, I'M me and we can talk in private and sort it out not hiding behind a computer.
I love the bull rider remarks here, from some meatheads that have no idea on the subject.
Name calling in reference to punks, derogatory comments against homosexuals, and what's wrong with debating something behind a computer in a public forum? Are you stating that you're unable to conduct a mature, intelligent conversation in a forum? And who did you call an idiot? | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 9:51:07 PM |
I cant wait to draw up on my next bull and spur the crap outa him, wont hurt him in any way shape or form, and i'll get a nice score.
See previous comment about sophisticated concepts and hurting cowboy brains.
Cheers,
Mike | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/4/2006 10:16:48 PM |
I think much of the negative posts towards bullriding comes from people who are envious of the courage it takes to ride a bull.
As far as dangerous sports pertain, I whitewater kayak. I've received stitches in three different kayaking incidents, lost teeth, and burried a friend. I don't consider it a matter of courage, it's just part of the sport, which by the way, does not involve the hurting of animals. No, there aren't any kayak groupies, but that doesn't matter to me because I want to be loved for who I am.
Gerry, do you have a collar or leash for your pet rat or dog?
Weezy
No, I do not have a leash for the rats, but my daughter takes them out for an hour or two every day. My dog has 1/3 of an acre sized yard, but he loves to go for walks and will get up and come over when he see his leash, though he doesn't walk very fast or far anymore as he's getting old. The leash is for his own safety in not getting hit by cars.
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/5/2006 9:53:08 AM | | Geesh, looks like the post went kind of barnyard..............good feedback. I dare not ask about training and riding horses............................ | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/23/2006 10:13:47 AM | | If any of you actully rodeoed and what not you would know that bull riding isn't animal cruelty. Those bulls and the livestock used in rodeo's are some of the most looked after and cared for animals walking... They have to work for 8 seconds than they go in the back, eat and drink and what not. Now if that's cruel than what do you call a bull that gets turned out into psature fights off all sorts of other preditors does his job with the cows comes back so skinny and than gets put in a little pen for the witner. Come on people know some facts before making those allocations! | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/23/2006 10:31:09 AM | Haha, facts.
The crazies of the world dont need facts. They can see the poor ol bull is obviously worked to death with all that bucking and whatnot. | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/23/2006 11:07:19 AM | Does anyone here that answered this thread actually have any contact with bulls or cows??
Oh i have found alot of bull and met a few cows....but am thinking we are on different wavelengths. However, i have grown up around animals and i think cows are amazing stupid. marginally more intelligent than brocoli. Do you know what a cows defensive reaction is? It moo's...
However, I do think that alot of the stuff that goes on at rodeos is cruel. Yes they are thick skinned however the zaps and the "tickle" straps do hurt, thus why they get the reaction. They dont' like or dislike it, you are humanizing a cow and giving it rational emotions that they dont have. They are just scared and getting hurt, they are surrounded by "predators" who are yelling and taunting then contained, injured and then released. For an animal that size to have that much of a reaction it needs to be a major stimulus. They are trying to get free and thus why they are pissed off, its a fight or flight reaction, they try to run and realise they are trapped and then try to scare off their would be predators. Thus the job of the rodeo clown. The bulls dont "enjoy" it, they survive it. If the bull had its way it would be in the middle off a big green pasture with thousands of cows
However, the most cruel i think is the calf roping, cause it is a rather violent take down and vertebrae are often damaged in the head torque. It was a necessary skill but the aspect of sport has made it much more violent than necessary. | |
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| Is bull riding animal cruelty?
Posted: 11/23/2006 12:38:40 PM | | I prefer bull fighting, particularly when the bull has its way with a matador, charging past a careless too confident flick of the cape to pierce his lungs with one shuddering blow and throw him joyfully about like a limp rag doll. Bull riding is for sissies. | |
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