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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/15/2006 4:42:43 PM | Here I am!  Is 5'2" short enough for you? Its funny that you ask the question, because most girls who are short wish they were tall and most girls who are tall wish they were short! But EVERYONE knows that great things come in small packages, so I've always loved being little.
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/15/2006 7:12:35 PM | | i effing hate it. You get too look at who has grooming issues (long nosehair. ew?) And you cant reach anything. Not to mention your date sometimes has to bend way down to kiss you goodnight. | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/15/2006 7:36:44 PM | Dave you can generalize all you want but do not question my honesty or how i feel about it. I did not reationalize lieing, i dont have to validate what anyone else does or says, nor do i care. I gave you my honest opinion and i feel you said i was being dishonest. I dont lie about my age, my weight, how i feel.
*sighs* Dave you keep missing the point i am trying to make. Not everyone feels the way you seem to think we do hun. Why do you obsess so strongly on this point? How many women on here have you wrote to and asked out? Dont give me stats hun, tell me from youre own experience.
VeraMae!! Where have you been young lady???????????????? | |
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bevuhd
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/15/2006 8:11:34 PM | Hey there,
I'm from Houston, and I'm 4'11". You just need to look down every once in a while. We're here!! | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/15/2006 8:53:09 PM | Whyspr, I have not missed the point. You claimed I have an issue over my height while I clearly claim my issue is with the typical priorities of women as demonstrated on this thread. I claimed that when it came to honesty or height, height wins. Your concern about honestly is in this quote "the only problem he really had was an honesty issue" from your post. Was the word "only" accidently inserted? I did not say it was not important but it appears that it is of minor importance from the implied comparison to all other possibilities in the word only.
My own experience can be typically summed up with replies such as "You're a nice guy but I am looking for someone taller." This is from someone 4 inches shorter than me. I am wondering if you are even seeing the posts where women under 5'4" are shamelessly asking for attention from a very tall lonely heart. My height is not an issue to me but it clearly is to many women even though I am not particularly short. I make it quite clear I would prefer eye contact and my height makes that a greater possibility than if I was tall. I fit my backpacking tent, the bunks on my boat etc. I hang ladders from the ceiling of my garage and do not hit my head on them. It really can be a positive. The only issue is not being able to get past the screening here unless I lie. From some of the posts here, such lying seems to be a minor excusable offense. Is it possible you can accept my assertion that many women here value height more than honesty? | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/15/2006 9:05:02 PM | yeah, lets agree that some ( not many ok?) women value height more than honesty. It's their loss though hun, seriously, and the only was used wrong where i wrote it. Dont expect a lot of sense tonight k? Running a fever, and it makes me wookie. I just would like to see you write about other things i guess. No statistics, just how you feel. If you have to lie about your height to get their attention hun, they arent worth your time.  | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/15/2006 9:29:03 PM | | I know what a spinner is noodle, but we used to call it playing propeller. LMAO | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/15/2006 9:46:22 PM | i dont think any woman values height more than honesty. If these girls are getting PO'd its because your lying to them, not because your short.
I dont care if a guy is 5 foot or 8 foot. But if he lies about something so small and insignificant, of course he'll find room to lie about the more important things so no i wouldnt want him in my life. you know?
maybe if you didnt make it such an issue, the women you meet wouldnt either?
iono.
And whyspr. I moved back into my own place so it took a little bit to get my net turned back on and get all my stuff moved back in. ect. | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 2:05:05 AM | WELL SOMEONE ASKED, WHERE ARE ALL THE SHORT GIRLS...THEY ARE IN THE PHILLIPPINES..
EVERY GIRL THAT I MET THERE WAS UNDER 5' 2"....AND BEAUTIFUL AND VERY SEXY. AND THEY ARE GOOD COOKS. | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 7:03:13 AM | Vera, I don't agree. This thread has grown very fast and most of the posts are women not participating in the subject but instead wanting the OP's attention. How many sent him emails? It appears the OP has removed his profile. Why? My guess would be the attention became a point of concern. I would not expect you or Whysper to have any experience as man under 5'9" trying to get the attention of women and therefor not see the issue. I would not expect you to have ever competed for a woman against a player whose only asset was height. My point in bringing it up is to get some people to think about their priorities. No thread has made it more clear what those priorities are than this thread. As for some obsession I have over my height, not true. I simply see this issue as an obsticle in meeting women that can only be resolved by confronting it at the source. The other options are to change my height or lie about it and neither is reasonable to me. The women I have met don't make an issue of my height. On the dating sites, I rarely get to that point. The liars and tall ones got there first.
Vera, I am glad to see you back. Your wisdom is refreshing as it has not died of old age! | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 8:15:40 AM | | Depends on how short you want the woman and where you are looking I am 5'1" | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 8:57:50 AM | Vera, I don't agree. This thread has grown very fast and most of the posts are women not participating in the subject but instead wanting the OP's attention.
Dave,
You are right, of course. Women value height more than honesty. But that's no different than men (when it comes to things like "looks"), so it's nothing to get upset about. Most women think height is the most important feature in a man, and so they find lying about height as a criminal offense. Notice that height is the only category that you can't say "I prefer no to say" to. It is also the only category that can't be fudged easily. Under “body type” you can chose a lot of vague terms and euphemism...but under height, they want an exact measurement.
The truth is that the women who are upset when their date turns out to be shorter (than they thought) are the ones that would never have given him a shot if they knew his real height in the first place. It has nothing to do with honesty. If the woman didn't mind, then it wouldn’t be a problem when you show up at the date. And actually, if it wasn’t important, she wouldn’t even notice it at all.
Anyway, the point is that you lose nothing from lying about your height. So just change it already and stop complaining. If I were actually using this site to find someone, then I would lie abut my height. I am 5'5", but I suspect I'd get no replies if I put my real height down. So I'd probably list 5'7" or something like that. What's the worse that could happen? The worse is that it didn't work out...at least you weren't shut out before you got your foot in the door; which is what would happen most of the time if you didn't increase your height statistic.
So don’t be a fool. If you’re 5’7” in real life. Just put down 5’9”. It will increase your pool of choices exponentially. | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 9:01:25 AM | maybe if you didnt make it such an issue, the women you meet wouldnt either?
iono.
Have you read the threads about height on this site? 90% percent of women are looking for guys over 5'8". Do you really think that height is an issue to men? I can assure you that men do not care about their height except for the fact that most women are obsessed with male height.
 cheers.
P.S. - Dave, if you don't believe that...just create a fake profile of a guy who is 5'11" and then create another fake profile with the same information except change the height to 5'7". Then check out the responses. :) | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 10:03:15 AM | by saying Women, your generalizing. When i just said i dont care how tall or short a man is.
What you two arent grasping is, The women get mad because you LIE, not because your short. You arent getting your foot in the door. Your trying to build a relationship on lies. Shame.
If a woman doesnt want to talk to you because your short, then to hell with her. Hell. I've had men not be interested in me because im short and they want to tall long legged beauty.
Its just height guys. most women dont care. If you think they do, Then go for really short women, that way you've still got some height on them. | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 10:04:18 AM | | I'm right here...I'm 5'3...barely...I don't like to call myself short I like to call myself vertically challenged | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 10:21:21 AM | by saying Women, your generalizing. When i just said i dont care how tall or short a man is.
You're right, I am generalizing. But dating is a numbers game. And you are in the minority if you're a woman and don't care how tall or short a man is. God Bless you  ...but you are in the minority.
Its just height guys. most women dont care. If you think they do, Then go for really short women, that way you've still got some height on them.
Actually, they do care about height...very deeply it seems. And ironically, it seems that short women care more than anyone else. Most men don't care whether the woman is taller or not, but most women do. And it seems that short women (in general) are often looking for tall men. I've heard of a lot of "reasons" for this, but the reasons don't really matter. Most of my lovers have been women who were slightly taller than me and care nothing about height. But a lot of short women want much taller men. Perhaps they think that shorter men are inferior and so they resent the idea that they are supposed to be "stuck" with short men. Or perhaps they don't want to take the chance of having short kids (which by itself is evidence of how they feel about height).
I don't have an answer, but to say that "most women don't care" (about height) is empirically false.
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 11:18:04 AM | | so then it'd be fair to say most Men care about height too, by your reasoning? | |
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Posted: 11/16/2006 11:38:07 AM | | Vera, if many women assume most men lie about their height and raise their standard accordingly, then honest non-tall men are rejected in favor of liers and tall men only. From other posts on this thread and other threads, men lying about their height is not considered anything more than minor vanity issue. What we are saying, as below average height men, is that we have no problem with our height but we would like to be honest and not rejected before contact in favor of liars. | |
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noodle
| | Joined: 10/20/2004
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 11:47:53 AM | | DH78, too funny, i like that better? i had a harley ,but illegal mexican stole it, and my lawn mower, and my john boat, aint life a **** | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 1:22:10 PM | | Ahoythere, i was trying to say... Dont men find women's heights to be important too? What about the short women who're turned away for the taller, longlegged beauty? Life isnt fair a lot of ways you look at it. its just something we all have to suck up and deal with | |
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noodle
| | Joined: 10/20/2004
Msg: 148 | |
| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 1:58:44 PM | | i think short girls are wonderfull,tall girls are wonderfull,and half way between are wonderfull, butttttttttttttttt, men that are short seem to have little man syndrome. and ive heared that alot in my life , my son is short, took after his mom,hes got a chip on the old shoulder too, but i love him , your right ,VM , suck up and be proud of who you are | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 2:10:34 PM |
What we are saying, as below average height men, is that we have no problem with our height but we would like to be honest and not rejected before contact in favor of liars.
That's not what I'm saying. What makes you better than another man because you are two inches taller? The only reason he lied was because he knew that women would pick you over him. | |
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| Where are the short girls?
Posted: 11/16/2006 2:13:58 PM | so then it'd be fair to say most Men care about height too, by your reasoning?
It might be "fair to say" that. But it wouldn't be true. There have been many studies on this. Men, in general, do not care how tall or short women are. But women do care about the height of men. It's more like men and weight. Women don't care about the weight of their men nearly as much as men care about the weight of their women. The only difference is that people can lose weight but people cannot gain height. That's why I don't think lying about height is a big deal.
Also, you've said that you've been turned down because of your height? That's odd. Did the man actually tell you that he thought you were "too short"? He's a loser if so, and that is not the norm. I wouldn't give it any thought if I were you.
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