| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/16/2006 2:16:21 PM |
Dont men find women's heights to be important too?
Not at all. There is actually another thread on this board in which men are asks if they prefer short or tall women. 95% said it didn't matter. But some women chimed in and said that they don't like short men (even though that wasn't the question asked).
Even this thread asks "where are the short girls?". I've never seen a thread posted by a woman that says "where are all the short guys?"
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/16/2006 2:27:55 PM |
men that are short seem to have little man syndrome. and ive heared that alot in my life
I've heard that a lot in my life too, but I've never actually seen it. From what I've seen, if tall men act in an aggressive manner, no one thinks anything of it (or they think he’s a “leader”). But if a short man exhibits a similar behavior, then it is "little man syndrome".
In reality, I think the term was developed and perpetuated (in the relationship context) by women who don't like to view themselves as "shallow". By attributing their rejection of the short men to "behavior" instead of his height (which is an immutable trait), women can absolve themselves of the guilt that society tells them that they should feel from being "shallow".
I personally don't think there is anything wrong with being "shallow", per se. You only hurt your own chances so I don't see it as a societal issue.
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/16/2006 2:39:53 PM | just because im argumentative i'll go ahead and mention, yes you can gain height. Theres growth hormones and leg surgery's... Sure its all painfull and expensive, but if its worth that much to you, Go for it. Its just like the girl who thinks her flat chest wont attract men so she goes and gets implants. same deal.
As yes i was actually turned down for being short. He was 6 foot 3 and thought the height difference would be "awkward and possibly uncomfortable" .... He'd have to bend, and i'd have to wear heels. jesus. what a twit. I've dated someone 6 foot 11 inches tall before and the height never bothered us.
I still say. be proud of who you are. and if someone else doesnt like it? screw them. (unless thats what you were going for and then your just SOL buddy)  | |
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/16/2006 3:06:43 PM |
just because im argumentative i'll go ahead and mention, yes you can gain height. Theres growth hormones and leg surgery's... Sure its all painfull and expensive, but if its worth that much to you, Go for it. Its just like the girl who thinks her flat chest wont attract men so she goes and gets implants. same deal.
First of all. I have no problem with myself or my height and I wouldn't change it on account of some discrimination. I'm also black, and I wouldn't change that because of racism.
Growth Hormone is for children (it doesn't work after you have stopped growing) and it doesn't do very much for kids that are not HGH deficient. Leg lengthening surgery is not like breast enhancement surgery because of the difficulty and pain associated with the surgery. It takes more than a year to complete and requires almost constant pain. And a lot of them fail and the person ends up in a wheel chair for the rest of their life. In fact, I just read an article which said that China banned leg lengthening because it's so dangerous.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10409409
As yes i was actually turned down for being short. He was 6 foot 3 and thought the height difference would be "awkward and possibly uncomfortable" .... He'd have to bend, and i'd have to wear heels. jesus. what a twit. I've dated someone 6 foot 11 inches tall before and the height never bothered us.
huuum. And you seem to be making my point that very short women seem more obsessed with height than do average height women (or tallish women). Why would it cross your mind to date a man who is 6'11" if you are 5'0"? And then you said that you chased a 6'3" guy (I assumed that you asked him, because you were rejected). This looks like a pattern. Have you ever asked a short guy for a date (say, 5’6” or shorter)? Anyway, not really any of my business…just making a point. And, to each her own.
I still say. be proud of who you are. and if someone else doesnt like it? screw them.
This is very true. But to do that, you can't live in the fairy tale world. It's easier to love yourself if you acknowledge that height discrimination exists. By not acknowledging it (as a short guy) you’d basically go around thinking that you are lacking in someway. You’d probably think of it as a flaw that is a result of bad luck or something. Those are the guys who are likely not to love themselves.
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/16/2006 4:49:08 PM | sorry, i cant sort out what the heck ya'll are saying tonight.
Vera-- glad your back.
Dave-- i agreed to some of what you are saying, but i still dont know if i have ever seen you post something that wasnt about the numbers. I am more interested in YOUR thoughts and feelings. | |
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/16/2006 7:13:51 PM |
huuum. And you seem to be making my point that very short women seem more obsessed with height than do average height women (or tallish women). Why would it cross your mind to date a man who is 6'11" if you are 5'0"? And then you said that you chased a 6'3" guy (I assumed that you asked him, because you were rejected). This looks like a pattern. Have you ever asked a short guy for a date (say, 5’6” or shorter)? Anyway, not really any of my business…just making a point. And, to each her own.
didnt realize i needed to post my entire height dating pattern for you? I list... Two men, and you assume i only date tall guys. Thats why i think you have a height complex. And the one guy didnt really reject me persay, just the idea of it. He simply mentioned in passing that he didnt think he could date a woman under five foot 5 inches for whatever reason.
And then yes i've dated men as short as five foot Two inches. Height is simply height. The only reason i've dated mostly tall men is because they had happened to have the personality type i get along with. not because they're tall
And yes those surgerys are dangerous, but some people use it for the same means. Because they're simply dissatisfied with themselves and the way other people view them  | |
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/16/2006 7:27:25 PM | Whysper, maybe its the threads where we cross paths. This is a dating site and the MOST important characteristic women see in men pretty much fits a lot of the discussions. This thread is particularly is that catagory. I have been on usenet in the past concerning quite a few topics and height was never discussed. I could give Vera lessons on being outspoken. As an engineer and inventor of several complex mathmatical algorithms, I do tend to see and understand the influence of numbers and statistics more than most people.
What seems appearant is women tend to classify short men as being obsessed with their height. I assume that is a projection as women are far more concerned with self image than streight men. Men are more concerned about what they have made of themselves.
Noodle, since you are over 6' tall, I can safely say you haven't a clue about what it is like. I suppose when tall people don't notice how often they cut in front of shorter people etc. they see the frustration created as a chip. Being tall has the advantage of being more able to intimidate others. Does that really build good character? As a scout leader, I have worked with hundreds of boys and seen them grow into community leaders, military officers etc. They are all heights. I haven't seen the chip but that could be because of the scouting program. | |
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/16/2006 8:00:17 PM | Wow!! now 4'5" would be too short I would have to say. We could never slow dance....it would get ackward. | |
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/16/2006 8:27:12 PM |
What seems appearant is women tend to classify short men as being obsessed with their height.
exactly. Vera just did it to me because I pointed out the obvious. And besides proving my point about very short women seeking unusually tall men, she also proved my point about using "behavior" as a scapegoat. Notice that she claims that she aggressively pursues tall men because they have “the type of personality” she likes. This is basically the opposite of the Napoleon complex myth. Instead of giving negative personalities to short men in order to absolve herself from “shallowness”, she gave positive personalities to tall men.
In reality, of course, men of differing heights do not have different personalities based on their height. Merely their actions are interpreted differently because of the stigma applied to shorter guys. Again, the aggressive tall guy is a leader and the aggressive short guy has a “short man complex”. | |
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/16/2006 10:05:51 PM | Reality, I grew up on farms cleaning up after animals, hence never grew. Stands 5'1 in boots 5 without. what luck!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tall or Short ,men will be men, women will be women, you are who you are. You have the choice of accepting someone for just that, who they are. | |
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/16/2006 10:07:54 PM | woohoo, that means that i can be one of santa's little elves..................oh santa, where are you? i wanna sit on your lap.......  | |
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/16/2006 11:45:46 PM |
exactly. Vera just did it to me because I pointed out the obvious. And besides proving my point about very short women seeking unusually tall men, she also proved my point about using "behavior" as a scapegoat. Notice that she claims that she aggressively pursues tall men because they have “the type of personality” she likes. This is basically the opposite of the Napoleon complex myth. Instead of giving negative personalities to short men in order to absolve herself from “shallowness”, she gave positive personalities to tall men.
In reality, of course, men of differing heights do not have different personalities based on their height. Merely their actions are interpreted differently because of the stigma applied to shorter guys. Again, the aggressive tall guy is a leader and the aggressive short guy has a “short man complex”. lol. Thats not what i said. Have fun twisting my words. I'll simplify it so you cant screw it up some more.
I dated the tall men because they had the personality that fits with me. I dated the short men because they had the personality that fits with me. I date whoever i date based on how their personality meshes with mine. NOT because they fit into some bogus height requirement.
And dont call me shallow or attack me. its your own fault for being too obsessed with your height and this discussion, to even correctly read what i wrote.
I say you have a complex because you do. I didnt say all short men have a complex. Just you, dear. And i say you have a complex because your searching so deeply to find fault in what i say because you think a majority of women think a certain way, so i must too. .. Which is lame.
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/17/2006 5:03:39 AM | And dont call me shallow or attack me. its your own fault for being too obsessed with your height and this discussion, to even correctly read what i wrote.
I wasn't attacking you, and I'm sorry if you felt that I was. I'm also not at all "obsessed" with my height. I find the topic interesting, but I love my height (why would I feel any other way?).
I say you have a complex because you do. I didnt say all short men have a complex. Just you, dear.
And I'm taking it a step farther and saying that no short men have a "complex" about their height. Or, at least I've never seen it and I have a hard time conceptualizing how it would work. I think it's sort of like when men use to say that an angry woman must be "on the rag", or that women have "penis envy". It's a method of using a single immutable trait (height, gender, race, etc.) to impute a negative behavior on a person for whatever tactical reason. Now I'm not saying that it is 100% impossible for some guy to "work harder" because he knows that he's stigmatized because he's short. But how would you know that he was working harder because he is short, or for the same reason that some tall guys work harder?
And i say you have a complex because your searching so deeply to find fault in what i say because you think a majority of women think a certain way, so i must too. ..
Yes, I'm saying that a majority of women think that way (there have been dozens of studies on the subject), but I didn't mean to accuse you of anything. I was just interpreting the plain language of your replies.
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I'd pull back on the fire breathing guy, if I were you. . . some people might think you have a "short woman complex" . . . oh wait, nevermind. That only applies to males. I forgot.
Though my shabby treatment indicates otherwise, I still feel I’m obligated to offer you a free beer.
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/18/2006 3:22:06 PM | | its ok chuck..I'm use to that kind of response...it does get kinda ackward at times....my high school sweetie was 6'4...he got on his knees to dance w/me at prom..it was weird at the time but now I think it was sweet | |
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/18/2006 3:31:31 PM | Welcome to Munchkinland. I'm just under 5ft. On a good day an extra 3 inches with heels. It's all about how you feel about yourself and others. I can never reach the top shelf but I do fit well in a Volkswagon. You take care. | |
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/19/2006 1:00:35 PM | SHORTY?? yes I am shorty but there's a lot more asian women who are shorter than me. I am 5'3 with 3 inches heels I become 5'6 Horray!!!!! Short ladies are more energetic and lovable, am I right with this statements? Short ladies? do you agree with me with this statements?  | |
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/19/2006 4:42:46 PM | Lucilou, wooooooooo weeeeeeeeeee,short ladies hummmm, yep yall are full of energy... | |
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/19/2006 5:33:43 PM | Well, lucilou, I don't know if you can make a blanket statement about ALL short women being any such way, I like to think I am lovable.
There has been a lot of talk on here about short men in several threads for weeks. I want to say that my first husband was 5'4" and my second was 5'11" . They were men. One tall one short. They both were great lovers, they both had good points and they both had flaws. None of those things had anything to do with how tall they were. | |
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| Where are the short girls? HERE'S ONE RIGHT HERE Posted: 11/19/2006 5:41:02 PM | Im 5'4'' amd have lived in texas all my life so the question is where have you been looking for these short girls. ANy ways now that you know there are short girls in texas where are all the tall guys who are looking for a girl like me..,......  | |
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| Where are the short girls? Posted: 11/19/2006 5:42:31 PM |
And I'm taking it a step farther and saying that no short men have a "complex" about their height. Or, at least I've never seen it and I have a hard time conceptualizing how it would work.
Bubba,you ain't 3' 9" either.....Don't speak for me.... | |
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