| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 11/20/2006 8:36:48 AM | Two things I refuse to give up for permanent incarceration would be my son being first and citizenship second!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 11/20/2006 8:57:44 AM |
Two things I refuse to give up for permanent incarceration would be my son being first and citizenship second!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes because we all know the penalty for a fraud marriage is life in prison.....
If some woman wanted to pay me a nice sum of money to marry her.....why not?
/Disclaimer This next statement is a generalization, please don't send me emails about how you're different and not EVERY woman is like that, I know, I'm generalizing. /Disclaimer over
It's better than the standard american marriage where you usually get a woman who has no idea how to cook, clean, balance a checkbook and thinks credit cards are free money! | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 12/22/2008 4:56:34 AM | | This is an old thread, obviously, but I've got questions! Is it right to get involved with a person who's already in this situation of being married to someone to help them get their citizenship? He's married but only because the woman he married wanted citizenship. Now, I'm sort of getting involved with him, but he's STILL MARRIED. Is this wrong even though we have feelings for each other and he doesn't love this woman and she doesn't love him and they don't even live together? Would love to read responses to this. | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 12/22/2008 5:21:08 AM |
This is an old thread, obviously, but I've got questions! Is it right to get involved with a person who's already in this situation of being married to someone to help them get their citizenship? He's married but only because the woman he married wanted citizenship. Now, I'm sort of getting involved with him, but he's STILL MARRIED. Is this wrong even though we have feelings for each other and he doesn't love this woman and she doesn't love him and they don't even live together? Would love to read responses to this.
How separated are they? Talk to your friend's wife, and see if she minds her husband having a girlfriend. Ask your friend if he and his wife already have a separation agreement addressing their assets, any spousal maintenance, etc. Are there kids involved as well? Will he be living two separate lives, one with his legal family and a separate one with you? Are you really ok with the reasons your friend gives you for remaining tethered to his present wife/life? Even at its best, understand that a married man can't get married to you.
I am separated but not divorced from a non-US-citizen. We live in different states and live separate lives (although we still jointly own a house we can't seem to sell in this economy) and we have already worked out all the agreements necessary for divorce. If ever either one of us feels the benefits of divorcing would outweigh the costs, we'll go ahead and file the papers we already have. I would love it if he found someone who made him happy. I think my situation is unusual though. | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 12/22/2008 5:33:34 AM | | I'd never do it, myself. I haven't received any such letters on here, but I have gotten them on other sites. I always laugh at them. | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 12/22/2008 5:44:08 AM | | Many guys offered me marriage for citizenship in this site without ever meeting me in person, BUT I REFUSED -SOUNDS FISHY. I'm looking for love. | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 12/22/2008 5:44:30 AM | | Lorelei, thanks so much for your response! These are all questions I never thought of or thought to ask. But, now I will. If he's serious about continuing our relationship, he'll answer honestly, if he doesn't I'll have no choice but to move on. He, by the way, has two grown kids - 19 and 21. We talk about it often, but all he ever says is, although he wants to extricate himself from this situation, it will take time. He never goes into HOW MUCH time, though and I don't know if I'm willing to put my life on hold for uncertainty. The thing is, I've grown to have feelings for him. So, I suppose there are some decisions to be made. | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 12/22/2008 6:02:45 AM | | Marring up. It's not new. Some women do it so they can move to the USA from the third world and some women (here) do it so they can hook on to a guy in med-school. If you ask me it is the same thing. As the women go, I find the ones that married up to get out of the third world tend to be more honest about it and the men that married them, for the most part seem to be happier, because they are not stuck with some blood sucking leach. Now there are exceptions to both cases. Some guys that go and find a hot RN out of the philippines and bring her here and think they will put up with the same shit a women there would; they get a reality check as soon as they get that green card in hand and they say thanks and bye or the guy that was completely naive and thinks the girl he only new on line before the wedding really ever loved him. For the most part in these marriages both feel like they got something better then they would have, the women got a guy that treats them better then the guys in the third world, and the guy got a good looking educated women that is happy with him the way he is (hard to find here). | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 10/12/2009 1:40:22 PM | I think it's a horrible thing to do, even though I have heard of good as well of bad stories. There was this couple that I knew. They married because of papers, they worked together, kind of liked each other so why not. They ended falling in love, had children together and were married for 20 years. Then I know of other people that had other issues, so when it was time for the divorce, it all came out in the wash and they self destructed.
So my advice would be Don't do it. | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 10/12/2009 8:07:44 PM | why are people who are already married or shacking on the board????
i try to live my life as ethical as possble. back to the original poster, i wouldn't marry a foreigner, illegal alien, national or whatever. the ins folks come to your house, job, and ask alot of questions and checks your bank account. a friend of is a parole officer and use to date a guy from immigrations told her this stuff. | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 10/13/2009 12:06:18 AM | | In the military I saw a way higher percentage of the foreign-born soldiers getting married to ladies from their homeland they met while on a 2 week vacation and happening to have a fat wad of cash out of nowhere... After she would become a citizen, the marriage wouldn't work out and the guy would be married again, with another wad of cash somehow. | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 10/13/2009 12:58:32 AM | | First of all your title should be your answer"Marage for Citizenship not Love". Why would you expect it to be for anything else or to last if it is for Citizenship? I think many women want to marry because they want children and someone responsable who wants the same thing who will help raise a family as well. I dont think people need to be married if that is not your goal. On the other hand some people choose to marry forigners so they can help them escape persecution, poor living conditions, economic uncertinties, ect. It all depends on the values those who consider marrage for those purposes. | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 10/13/2009 2:40:03 AM | Marriage is sacred to me and will only do it for the one I love.
Yes, I have offers in the past about it from online and offline. No I would never consider it based on what I value marriage and would not go to jail for 10 years for this kind of arrangement.
However, titosmith, I liked what you wrote there | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 10/28/2009 5:19:53 PM | Why would a man or woman use the guise of marriage to allow someone entry into our country who couldnt get in on their own accord?
Why not? I'd do it, but I'm on the wrong side of the question. Unfortunately the immigration laws are so ridiculous and irrational. They'll let terrorists immigrate but they won't let an honest hardworking person who doesn't have a criminal record and has always held a job. I'd love to live in the US but I can't because I'm a Canadiancitizen, not a terrorist - so I don't qualify. The only way I'll ever qualify is to marry an American. Anybody offering???  | |
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| Marriage for Citizenship not Love Posted: 10/30/2009 9:54:12 AM | I dated a girl when I was in Florida that had a best friend, a pushy best friend from Brazil. She married for citizenship. She found a young bum and married him. She cleaned him up, got him a car, got him a job, pushed him to better himself. They both date different people. They've been married 6 years. She's now a wealthy lawyer, he was a bum now he owns a computer repair business. It works for them.
My best friend works at a factory, he has a coworker that married a Russian woman. They've been married 15 years (I think). They barely speak each other's language, they have an aggreement, she cooks and cleans, he pays for that. There is no sex, no kids. He tells us how there is no sex. She married to get out of Russia. He married to have a cook.
Here's the other side of the coin. My friend's sister married a great guy, a hard worker from Mexico. They're married for 5 years, they have 4 kids. INS deported him. They're married, that should be citizenship right? Nope! At least not in IL. So we all had to write INS letters saying they're marriage is legit, they really love one another, its not just a trick. My friend even went in for an interview on behalf of her sister to tell them its no trick. She wouldn't testify if its a trick, especially because that would mean its illegal. | |
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