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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/12/2008 3:48:46 PM | 2nd amendment rights? Is that the US ammendment to thier constitution that covers the right to bear arms that every US Supreme Court consistenty rules applies to State Militias and not individuals, or is there another one? Just curious as an inhabitant of Canada.
Where do you people get this crap? The us supreme court nas never NOT ONE SINGLE TIME ruled that, or anything like it.
I would look at it as a good thing for several reasons.
One, she's smart enough to take her safety into her own hands. Two, if something went down she could help me return fire.
Three, I hate loaning out my Glocks.
I never go anywhere without a gun on me. Sometimes 2. My G22 has saved my life twice. I'm an IPSC, IDPA, 3gun and 2 gun shooter.
One more thing, Bigshrek, what's your arfcom screenname? lol
I'll take my chances, but as our home has never been broken into and we live a block away form the local precinct, I'll leave the gun-shooting to our fine folks at the NYPD.
The same NYPD that has a hit rate under 10% and a higher rate of shooting the wrong person than CHL holders do? Yeah, people need to learn the truth about cops and guns. Cops are convinced that they are God's on the range. I've won so much money off cops I bought a Glock with it. And 10 mags for it. And 2k rounds of ammo for it. I'm good yeah, but cops SUCK at shooting. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 5:49:38 AM | Zen, yer a Canuck, you have NO CLUE.
First off, you don't have hundreds of thousands of Mexican/South American illegals pouring arcross your border WITH weapons and drugs.
Second, Canada really doesn't have the same inner city problems we do down in the US.
Third, Canada is so dang cold that no criminal in his right mind would stand in a dark alley and wait for a victim for 6-8 months out of the year, they'd farkin freeze to death in an hour or two.
WILL YOU BLEEPING CANADIANS STAY OUTTA OUR GUN FORUMS??  | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 5:56:16 AM | What's arfcom?
I spend most of my time on Gunsmith-type sites.
Funny you should mention how bad a shot some cops are...about ten years back we got a call to a shooting at the Pensacola Builder's Square, we roll up in an ambulance and what do we find but a cop, shot in the derriere' by ANOTHER COP!! Well, at least they managed to put a few bullets in the original gun-toting perp...
I always wonder if those butt-shootings are intentional...a little "corrective activity" perhaps?? | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 6:17:54 AM | arfcom- ar15 dot com
Biggest gun website on the web. Forums for everything from each individual state, to gun smithing, reloading, many different types of rifle companies, not just ar15s. Pistol forums for everything of quality from sig to HK to Glock to 1911s, survival forums, we even have a cooking forum for foods you'd find in the wild.
We have a general section for everything from music to chickysnacks.
Best of all, an Industry forum where we have reps from many of the major vendors and manufacturers. For instance, you can sign into the Larue forum and talk to Mark Larue himself. Pat Rogers frequents our training forums, Jim Scoutten has his own forum. And we have the EE or Equipment exchange. If it's gun relat9i8med, and if it's not, you can find it there. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 11:15:08 AM |
zentimes said:
Would she be pointing it at me and would she be an exe gf?
In general, I dont believe in gun ownership as we no longer live in the wild west.
Guns are tools used to carry out acts of violence & Im opposed to them!
However didnt "Annie get her gun" & head to Broadway in a musical? That's hilarious!
...and akin to bringing up mopeds and skateboards in a discussion about driving the German Autobahn.
Clueless, zen... truly clueless.  | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 11:46:16 AM | bigshrek said:
.... shot in the derriere' by ANOTHER COP!! .... There was a similar situation in Lubbock, TX.
Sgt. Kevin Cox was shot and killed during a SWAT operation on July 13th, 2001.
The big difference is that the police officer was shot in the head. The "bad guy" they were after was originally charged with the shooting, and it took "a while" for it to be revealed that the police officer was shot in the head by another police officer despite clear evidence that the "bad guy" didn't do any shooting. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 1:04:45 PM | Well, I own a gun and have for many years.
It's in my home and there it will stay. I live alone, except for 2 dogs.
Intruders get past the 2 dogs I've had time to get the gun.
I know very well how to use it too, should anyone decide to break in my home. If I don't protect myself here nobody else is going to. ~shrugs~
However, I do not carry a gun. There's no need to do so in this area, even in my profession (that I now limit) unless I go back to bringing in a bail jumper and THAT'S not likely....I like my world just as it is now.. 
2nd amendment rights? Is that the US ammendment to thier constitution that covers the right to bear arms that every US Supreme Court consistenty rules applies to State Militias and not individuals, or is there another one? Just curious as an inhabitant of Canada I have NO idea where you got this one. Now that's funny You weren't very curious were you? In this state, I don't even have to have my gun registered with local authorities IF it stays on my property. NOR do I have to have a permit to have it here. Only if I choose to remove it from my property then I have to have a carry permit. And I have no intentions of removing it.
The only people who cannot own a gun OR live in a dwelling where there IS a gun is a convicted felon. Even IF the gun is someone else's who resides in the dwelling. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 1:58:46 PM | Frickin Canucks again...a Militia is defined in the Constitution as "Every male US resident between 18 and 50".
There are also State Militia organizations, one of which I'm a member of. Florida's definition of Militia is every male from 18-65 that owns and will bear arms to defend Florida and the United States from enemies both foreign and domestic. Of course they wrote that after Castro took power in Cuba...
After the last big blow-up in the 90's about Gun Laws (Thanks Bill C., ya jackhole), there were several thousand Militia groups registered in the US. ALL are civilian. Most of them still exist today. So if it comes down to showing a Militia Membership Card to have a gun, we've got it covered. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 4:00:13 PM | Zen. You don't have the first damn clue of what you speak of.
I read an article not to long ago about Brit tourists coming here and being in shock that blood wasn't running in the streets. Your media, and indeed one another love to talk about how violent the U.S. is as a country. Instead of coming here and seeing for yourselves, you blindly follow the sheep in front of you, and lead the sheep behind you.
The fact of the matter is that our violence is heavily concentrated to inner cities. Outside of inner cities I'm willing to bet that the violant crime rates are similar to those of Canada.
I go to Mexico and Canada on a regular basis, Canadians on average seem to be people who are fairly well off for the most part and usually fairly polite, responsible people.
Go to Mexico, most of the people are very poor and the crime rates are pretty high. At least near the border.
Then you can look at the U.S. We have a lot of everything. Well over 300 million people. Many poor, many well off, and some rich. If you'll look at our violent crime on a map, you'll see that places like Virginia, Arizona, New Mexico, Kentucky, Idaho and Vermont, have very low crime rates. In these states average citizens, can, without permit, open carry a pistol on their belt.
Then you have other states like Arkansas, Ohio, Florida, Indiana, Missouri, and some others where people can, with a permit, carry a pistol on them concealed. Their crime rates aren't that high either.
Look at places like L.A., Chicago, Washington DC, New York city, and New Jersey.
Those are the places most foreigners think of when they think of the U.S. When you think of crime in the U.S. do you think of gun fights or muggings on the streets of those cities? or do you think of gun fights and muggings in Kentucky?
Here's a bit of info for ya. In the last 5 places I named, the average person cannot carry a handgun legally. That's right, the worst crime centers in the country, are "gun free zones"
Of course there are exceptions. Lets look at a few of them.
The Virginia Tech shooting. A retard with a couple of handguns was able to slaughter how many students? Now obviously that contradicts me listing Virginia as a low crime place! Well, guess what. Virginia Tech was a gun free zone. That's right, NO GUNS WERE ALLOWED AT VT! Some people think it's common sense. I think it's sad that so many good hokies died because they were "protected" by the gun free zone B.S.
Lets look at a few more exceptions. New Orleans, St Louis, and Atlanta. Georgia, Missouri, and Louisiana are gun friendly states, and St louis, N.O. and Atlanta have pretty bad crime.
Take a look at crime maps for the locations, and compare it to a racial and income demographic map of the same locations.
That also works for L.A., Chicago, D.C., NYC, and Jersey. Look at the violent crime rates on a map vs the racial and income demographic of the same locations.
One could also argue that Philly and St Louis experience a lot of spillover crime from Jersey and Illinois respectively.
So the majority of the crime centers in the U.S. are gun free zones.
The most gun friendly states in the country have pretty low crime.
Yet guns are the problem somehow? Riiiiiiight!
Oh, and to reiterate, I, like many of my friends, carry a gun on me everywhere I go.
I've never blown up, I don't lose my temper, and my gun isn't my first tool in my line of defense. I also train heavily in Krav Maga, which is probably the ONLY martial art that is useful in real life. It should be, my good jewish friends have been using it for years to defend themselves against terrorists.
I'm an extremely laid back fun loving guy. I'm MORE laid back and relaxed knowing that I have a choice about being a victim. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 5:30:11 PM | I'd prefer the women I date not wield fire arms. statistically, they are way more likely to shoot me than any intruder or criminal.
It's not like she's going to sit around the house strapped, waiting for action. however, if i were to say, fall in love with her sister: the chances of her killing me from a safe distance dramatically increase if she's packing heat. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 5:31:47 PM | I'd prefer the women I date not wield fire arms. statistically, they are way more likely to shoot me than any intruder or criminal. You must have went to public school?
That's an out and out lie.
EDIT, Oh, you're from Mass, it's no wonder you're running your mouth about shit you don't know the first damn thing about. Considering running for Ted Kennedy's spot? I heard he's not doing to well | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 5:38:41 PM | You think being a husband, boyfriend, S/O precludes you from being a criminal?
You know the most likely person to victimize a woman?
Yeah, I thought not kiddo.
Go ahead, find that stats that back up your original statement that I quoted. I won't hold my breath. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 5:52:49 PM | I'm not little, you are however, a kid.
I don't know of any sources of information that purposely construe the facts to fit with your lie. The most likely person to victimize a woman violently is her significant other.
You assert that if a woman has a gun, you're more likely to be shot by her, than a criminal of any sort is likely to be shot by her.
It was your assertation, not mine, go prove it.
Find me some stats that say a woman 21 and up (carry age) is more likely to accidently shoot an innocent person, than someone attempting to do her harm.
You said it, prove it kid. I don't have to prove you wrong, I know you're wrong, and I'm not the one that brought it up. The burden of proof is on you skippy. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 5:58:30 PM | seeing as we aren't in court, and I'm not emotionally invested enough to do statistical research for the POF forums, I'm going to stand by my original statement.
you're no better, you don't have any proof whatsoever to contradict my statements. just outrage and insecurity about your size. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 6:01:22 PM | I'm not outraged or insecure at all.
I just like calling out liars. Something that you are. And you're not even man enough to try to prove your little lie | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 6:05:07 PM | just claiming to know you are right isn't a very persuasive argument, you really need some kind of evidence besides that.
just admit it, you are also too lazy to do the online research required. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 6:08:17 PM | Oh, by the way
http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNSTAT.html
In the U.S. for 2001, there were 29,573 deaths from firearms, distributed as follows by mode of death: Suicide 16,869; Homicide 11,348; Accident 802; Legal Intervention 323; Undetermined 231.(CDC, 2004)
802 accidental deaths by firearms.
11,348 homicides by firearms. (legally, homicide is intentional killing, criminal or self defense)
So you're 14 times LESS LIKELY to be killed accidently by someone with a gun, than you are to be killed by accident.
Seems pretty obvious to me that your concern over a woman having a gun, would be rooted in something more sinister.
Criminals do prefer unarmed victims.
Go lie somewhere else skippy. Until I get banned, I'll call bs out everytime I see it if it involves guns. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 6:11:42 PM | i'll assume your stats are up to date and accurate, all that crap.
So there 11,000 or so homicides, and 800 or so accidental deaths. What about when the husband or wife shoots the their S/O, isn't that a homicide? It really doesn't specify what is happening. Who is shooting who, or if it's a murder of a boyfriend or husband. How does that in any way contradict my statement that if my girlfriend has a gun, she's more likely to shoot me than some kind of intruder or criminal? (that isn't me) | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 6:16:40 PM | Lets see if you'll argue with the DOJ
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/fidc9397.htm
Of all nonfatal firearm-related injuries treated in emergency departments, 62% were known to have resulted from an assault. For firearm-related fatalities, 44% were homicides
So a full 62% of non fatal shootings happened because of an assault. That means no more than 38% could be accidents! Except you have to take out suicides too.
Again, the only people worried about women having guns are those that intend to victimize them, or have a fear of weapons. The same fear that Freud says indicated "sexual and emotional immaturity." | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 6:20:42 PM | Lets see if you'll argue with the DOJ
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/fidc9397.htm
Of all nonfatal firearm-related injuries treated in emergency departments, 62% were known to have resulted from an assault. For firearm-related fatalities, 44% were homicides
Hold on a second here, lol. For firearm related fatalities, 44 % were homicides. so 66% percent were not intentional? as in accidents? That's obscene. So guns in the home aren't dangerous to the people who belong there, yeah sure..
Again, the only people worried about women having guns are those that intend to victimize them, or have a fear of weapons. The same fear that Freud says indicated "sexual and emotional immaturity."
Freud is credited with inspiring lots of valid work, but all his theories have been abondoned as anything relevant or useful. Freud also gave his patients cocaine, and used it himself.
besides, you don't have to intend to victimize someone to have them turn into a stalker, or get really mad if you dump them, or if yes, you cheat on them. I admit cheating is not admirable, but it doesn't deserve a bullet.. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 6:34:27 PM | http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/stats.html
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/hvfsdaft.txt
On average in 1987-92 about 83,000 crime victims per year used a
firearm to defend themselves or their property.
Now, how many people were murdered a year then?
http://college.hmco.com/english/resources/research_guide/2e/resources/case_study.html
Well, 30k were killed overall
17k were suicide.
They show 875 accidents
and 12k homicides.
SOOOOOOOOO 30k get shot, (-17 for suicides, 875 accidents, and however many of those 12k were self defense) and 83,000 people REPORT (no doubt many went unreported) using a firearm to defend themselves.
So the conclusion we get there is that even assuming all 12k were murder, you're 7 times more likely to see a gun used for self defense than murder.
But obviously, statistically you're more likely to get shot than a criminal!
800-875 accidental shootings a year, 83,000 self defense uses of firearms per year.
Yeah, your stats check out.
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/13/2008 6:37:24 PM | Hold on a second here, lol. For firearm related fatalities, 44 % were homicides. so 66% percent were not intentional? as in accidents? That's obscene. So guns in the home aren't dangerous to the people who belong there, yeah sure.. You forgot suicides
besides, you don't have to intend to victimize someone to have them turn into a stalker, or get really mad if you dump them, or if yes, you cheat on them. I admit cheating is not admirable, but it doesn't deserve a bullet..
What does that have to do with anything?
If she turned into a stalker and shot you, that's murder. Anger over you dumping them, that's murder. Nutty people do that stuff. Guess what? People adjudicated mentally defective cannot legally own firearms!
And those still fall under murder, which happens at least 7 times less often than the defensive use of a handgun. | |
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