| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/14/2008 2:50:19 PM | RE: the tool analogy, it went so far over your head it's not even funny. Lets me know the caliber of the person I'm debating with. So did you getting all emotional ignoring facts.
oh don't play the **** card, not until you get that custom pink 22 rifle to shoot at dogs and retards that scare you.
you said that guns are the same as hammers, they are inanimate objects - and only people cause problems. Yes, stupid, vicious people cause problems... What i said was that the stupid vicious problem causing people can cause way more problems if they have a hand gun. and i'm right. you're the one who didn't understand this. your inanimate objects transform the average jackass into someone who can kill, easily and efficiently. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/14/2008 7:42:05 PM | LOL, the tool analogy works, actually, the Ball-peen hammer is the weapon of choice for the Hell's Angels from the 1960's to present. Reasons being, you can always carry a hammer openly, it will kill with one strike, and it is a wonderful tool for knee-capping. For up-close & personal work, it's VERY effective. Oh, and if you ride an old Harley, you're gonna need one anyway!!
Having a gun is a safety measure...people who join clubs are usually getting more range time than the average police officer and thus more gun use training time. I spend every Sat & Sun at the range practicing and shooting competitively...SASS and IDPA. Try out both styles, they complement each other. Lotsa women shoot Cowboy Action style...and for most of us gun owning guys, it's a Turn-On!
No, I don't need a semi-auto rifle to shoot with, I've got a .44 Magnum lever-action that I can fire just as fast with and just as effectively with...it's just that I don't have to load my semi-autos near as often. I can empty out a pair of single-action Ruger Bisley's faster and more accurately than most people can with a Glock...and I'm nasty fast with my Glock 20...depends on the mood I'm in as to which I favor any particular day.
I got hooked on shooting sports from my military service...most of which was Full-auto weaponry...and I also believe the best defense is a Good Offense...it's the reason no other country has tried to invade the continental us since 1850, they KNOW they'll have to face a heavily armed populace that will most certainly Not Play Fair. Just imagine what would happen to an Army that landed in LA... the Crips & Bloods would put their feuds on standby so they could repel the invaders...and they'd probably have heavier weapons than the average US Army Infantry battalion. And just TRY marching thru Alabama or Georgia...
Florida has the perfect set of Gun Laws...they allow CCW and heavily punish those who commit criminal acts with guns. Between the two we're seeing a reduction in criminal gun crime as the bad guys are getting shot by the citizenry or locked up for life. 10-20-Life has been the biggest deterrent to crooks using guns...lord knows the Clinton gun bans didn't work. And we've DEFINITELY found out that DC's & NY's gun bans only INCREASED violent crime, taking the guns out of the hands of the civilian populace and letting the criminals carry at will just doesn't work.
On the other hand, the one city that requires every male over the age of 18 to own a firearm has had crime rates DROP precipitously. And oddly enough, the homicide rate has not gone up. Suicide rate has...it's considered suicide to break into a home where there is a gun owner...it's considered suicide to try to rob a store...it's considered suicide to piss off the police... 
Y'all yankees are more than welcome to be pacifists...criminal types prefer weaponless victims. Enjoy! | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/14/2008 9:09:37 PM | I don't own a gun and I don't think I'd be too keen to live with someone that owns a gun, but its not a deal breaker on its own really. It has so much more to do with their emotional stability which you can tell from many other factors.
I know a girl that works for the secret service and yes, carries a gun for her job. Am I worried about her? Not in the least. But if I were to move in with someone like her it might become an issue as I don't particularly want a load-able weapon in my household. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/15/2008 8:30:07 AM | | I've still yet to see how a liberal can explain the fact that the places that have the most strict gun laws are the most dangerous cities in the country. If guns are the cause of problems, why does taking them away make crime go up? | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/15/2008 12:00:12 PM |
...how a liberal can explain the fact that... The 'facts' they use are hand-picked to support the conclusions they have already made. Sometimes their "facts" are manufactured by manipulating certain information into statistics.
I don't argue with them anymore. Those that are closed to the idea that we are each responsible for our own protection, and that we do indeed have personal rights, are not people I want to spend time with. If they try to force their opinions through confiscations and infringements on freedom, then other action is needed.
Freedom is worth fighting for. If something is worth fighting for, it is worth killing for.
I have the feeling that those who argue against individual rights do not realize that this is where their argument leads. Do they REALLY want to start that kind of a fight? | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/15/2008 1:31:51 PM | As long as idiot scientists are bound & determined to re-engineer living dinosaurs, I'm gonna keep a handy weapon or two that'll take one out. Said weapon can do double duty against gang-bangers, crackhead burglars, and road rage nutcases. The .50 Desert Eagle fits the bill nicely for all occasions.
Freedom ain't free...ya gotta fight for it...most of the time with words and votes, but every once in a while you have to actually get physical. I also have an oriental weapons collection that rivals the best dojo's in the US. I'm training my 9 yr old in TKD and Tai Chi Chuan...he will be well prepared for self-defense in later life. I've worked with him on archery since he was five...and he's good enough to fill up a black spot with arrows now at 40 yards.
People take their safety for granted...funny tho, after a liberal gets mugged, he suddenly turns into a conservative...because then he KNOWS beyond a shadow of a doubt that the cops only clean up the mess afterwards...it's up to YOU to keep yer azz alive until they get there. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/15/2008 2:10:35 PM | I've still yet to see how a liberal can explain the fact that the places that have the most strict gun laws are the most dangerous cities in the country. If guns are the cause of problems, why does taking them away make crime go up?
I'm not particularly liberal outside of stuff like gun control, social issues. But i'll explain why you are wrong.
it's a bit like why the states with the death penalty often have the highest capital murder rates. One isn't CAUSING the other at all. It's what is known as a correlation - and correlations do not equal causality. A very strong correlation can be used to help support an argument for causality, but by itself, especially if it is a weak correlation, it doesn't mean much at all.
you are talking about large diverse populations in these cities. Actual comprenhensive research have found that the main factors for increases in crime are:
Larger population of males 18-25 due to immigration, baby booming etc..(This is who commits the most crime)
Increased drug trade (results in a lot more inner city violence, the crack problem in the 80s is the most famous example)
Large immigrant or lower class populations in poor job market (concentrated poverty can breed violence, a good example is the UK where massive influxs of uneducated immigrants has risen crime.)
Excessively hot weather
^ this last one is funny but true.
There is actually is a stronger correlation between ice cream sales and violent crime, than there is between increased gun control and violent crime. Easily. it's the most famous example of a spurious statistical correlation: which means something else is the real cause, and it's well known among people who "Understand fancy statistics" - the liberals who are so evil in their mathematical manipulations. i'll explain below.
The real cause in that case is that heat makes people more irritable and violent, and also buy ice cream. The police in these cities are not screaming for looser gun control any more than they are demanding that ice cream be banned. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/15/2008 6:43:16 PM | | Nothing sexier than a woman who knows how to shoot a gun, I know a lot of women who own guns, and who hunt. I would encourage a woman to have a gun if she really wanted one, now of course for safety reason man or woman doesnt matter who should take a course on gun safety, to learn how to handle a gun proporly and how to shoot it. Every woman that I have been with who's never shot a gun, I took them to shoot a gun and they liked it. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/15/2008 9:36:38 PM | He's actually right about the heat...at least in Big Cities like NY, Chicago, etc...
Of course, you can throw blame at minority populations and be right on target with the NCIC statistics, and you can say that poor people don't have as much air conditioning in their homes and be correct, and you can point out that with the record oil prices that minorities will be MORE violent this summer since many won't be able to afford their power bills and you'll probably be right. I expect record levels of violent behavior this summer from the more rotten areas of my city...but whatcha gonna do, carpet bomb it??
But the bottom line is that people in the US are not as nice as they should be, because you cannot legalize good behavior. I had to call the cops tonight...they had a seven & 1/2 minute response...lots of things can happen in 7 & 1/2 minutes if you don't have an advantage over a crook. I'll keep my advantage, thankyouverymuch. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/19/2008 7:55:51 AM | Thought for the Day - A woman who demands more gun control legislation is like a chicken rooting for Colonel Sanders... (attributed to Larry Elders)
  that one is Spot On!!  | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/20/2008 4:49:58 AM | | well i guess that could be taken in two different ways, a gun as in a real metal gun or a gun between the legs you never knew about until it went off...... i'm aussie and a bit humours all the time, so to me gun is something you hold you in your hand, usually a guy strokes it...a rifle is something you shoot with...you decide on what is what in this crazy world | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/21/2008 2:45:27 AM | Cautious. And guarded, especially with regard to mood swings and hormonal fluctuations. But what would I think ? That she's a take charge woman fully capable of standing up for herself. So I'd feel respect. Unless she came across as a tweaker paranoiac or somethin' like that there.  | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 6/21/2008 3:01:53 AM | .
I was doing some running around with a really nice gal one evening not too long ago. She asked if I was hungry and just “happened” to indicate that she would really like to stop at a joint that (she didn’t know) I used to go to a lot. Most of the cops from that city stop by there on breaks, which I knew. Turns out, she knew that, too.
So, we’re sitting at the counter (her choice, not mine) and eating. Police officers walk in and pat my side (I was wearing a sport coat), say hello and move on.
Finally, the gal I was with saw someone she knew. He also patted my side and then she got to ask what the hell that was all about.
Well, I used their firing range a lot, and these were people I knew -- often won beers from. Patting my side to see if I am armed was (mostly) all in fun. I’ve been carrying legally since 1961.
Anyway (which was a little bothersome to me), the gal didn’t know that I was carrying -- and it was a Glock 17 on my side, which ain’t small. This was after four hours together. Then, she put her badge case on the table in front of me, so I peaked a little. Yup, she’s an accomplished police officer. I didn’t know that.
Later, I asked what she has and where it is. She was carrying the little 5 shot S&W hideout in her purse. That’s what I used to buy the nephews when they got out of the police academy for off duty. But, I also bought them a Second Chance vest.
So . . . the little lady I was with packed a gun (and a badge). Turns out, she was also quite good in the martial arts.
What’s that all mean to me? Not much. It’s not likely she will shoot me, nor I her.
Some women that I know carry a handgun legally. And, yeah, I might have had something to do with that. But, they’re not going to shoot anyone -- unless they violate the mama rule and come after them or their kids (grandkids, in this case). And really, I think it’s a good thing when they can protect the family -- however they do it.
So . . . would I go out with a woman who packs a gun? Sure! Why not?
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/1/2008 1:46:34 PM | | It says a lot about a woman if she's a lawful, responsible gun owner- a lot of good things. If I meet a woman that's into shooting, that's just another thing that we can do together for fun. | |
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