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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/18/2008 3:36:30 PM |
Any item can be considered a deadly weapon. Kitchen knives, Autos, ball bats, neck ties, pencils, pens, and rolling pins can all be used as a deadly weapon. By your own words, there is no excuse for letting a 3-yr old play with a pen.
Yep. I would not let my three year old child play with kitchen knives, autos, bats, ties, pencils, pens or rolling pins. By my own words, I am saying that there is no excuse to allow my baby to play with these things! That is exactly what i'm saying. Glad you understand. Frightened that you don't agree that these things are dangerous to put into the hands of a baby, yet somehow not surprised.
No Ma'am!
If it is not dangerous, immoral, or illegal, then teaching your children skills and abilities is what being a parent is all about. Firearms are not dangerous when handled properly, and they are certainly not immoral or illegal.
So.... what's your problem?
My problem is that it is absolutely a question of morals. We clearly disagree on the issue, and you think there is nothing wrong with putting a dangerous weapon (whether you think of it as a fun toy or not, isn't the question. Legally, it is a dangerous weapon.) in the hands of a baby...that's your choice, and you have the right to teach your child a way of life that is unnecessary and dangerous. It's none of my business to tell you how to raise your kid.
It does become an issue of the child's well-being, and not to mention gun control laws here in Ontario, and I know for a personal fact, after checking with mates who work for CAS here in my local office, that a child would be removed from the home, and an investigation pursued if a parent was admittedly allowing them access (and ENCOURAGING access) to a harmful weapon (Just as if you were allowing your child to play with ball bats, kitchen knives, ties, etc.)
There is a reason you have to be of a certain age before you can be a registered hunter, and register a gun in your name, and i'll give you a hint: 100% of that reason is due to the lack of understanding and maturity an infant possesses. You might think you're father of the goddamn year, because your intent is to teach your child how to handle a weapon (and again, I stress it IS a weapon) but sadly, you're mistaken.
My INTENT in teaching a child about firearms has everything to do with safety and nothing to do with using it as a weapon. They're a lot of fun to shoot, just like collecting stamps is a lot of fun to some people. I don't see that as "fun", though I don't get all bent out of shape about it.
So I ask again... what's your problem?
For the record, if you were to look up the stats, i'm sure there were many more gun-related deaths, than stamp related deaths, last year...or any year. I am not getting bent out of shape about the fact that you find shooting fun. Lots of people find shooting fun. Most of my family and friends shoot skeet and hunt on a regular basis. I have enjoyed both of those things in the past.
The fact of the matter is that I have to stand behind my opinion 100%, and that means not participating in gun culture in any sense of the word. (This means shooting cans off a fence, range shooting, skeet shooting, hunting, etc.)
My problem I thought was evident. You're introducing a very dangerous hobby to your child, and you're going to explain it to them that you're not introducing a weapon but something that is "a lot of fun to shoot". You also apparently have no problem insinuating that it's okay for a child to play with other various objects that a child has no use being near...which really makes me concerned for your children.
Gun laws in Canada and the US are clearly different. Cultural and moral beliefs are clearly different. At this point i'm thanking fvck that I wasn't born to an American father who would raise me surrounded by danger, but explain that rather than use the kitchen knife to hurt someone, I should use it for FUN! Bravo dad! Give yourself a pat on the back!
I bet you'd teach a teenager how to drive, or let one take driving lessons (maybe even pay for those lessons).
How could you possible teach a teenager to do that? Operating an automobile is THE MOST DANGEROUS thing they do! More teens and young adults are killed & maimed in car crashes than in any other activity. The carnage is truly horrible.
Yep, I sure would allow my responsible YOUNG ADULT to be taught LEGALLY by a PROFESSIONAL who has complete control of the vehicle they are in, to drive. I would not, however, try to teach my 3 year old to drive myself. That's the difference, right there. We're not talking about teenagers, we're talking about toddlers. We're also not talking about driving, with a professional (a legal, morally acceptable activity), we're talking about daddy letting them play with guns. (an illegal, disgustingly dangerous, potentially harmful activity.)
Clearly we disagree, and I imagine you're going to come up with some more unrelated scenarios to try and refute my point, but you're not going to change my mind, or my moral and legal beliefs on the matter.
Not to mention this is not the place to do so, being that we've strayed far away from the original post. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/18/2008 4:38:14 PM | | A woman or man might have the best gun in the world but they haven't been trained to pull the trigger against someone else. It's just another one of those things to give you the illusion that you are safe, just like car alarms. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/18/2008 4:44:50 PM |
Handguns are illegal in Canada. Citizens are not allowed to possess handguns...or automatic weapons. So if she had either, I'd safely exit and tell the authorities, no one needs a psycho, planning crazy shit. There is too much violence in Toronto as is, not only are prisons full of violent offenders
Firearms are illegal for one and only one reason, to give the state, the government, the upper hand over the people. It reinforces the state's monopoly on legal violence. The government doesn't want people independent or able to fight back. Governments are by the greatest killers of all. How many people has the US government killed in Iraq alone? How many millions of people have governments killed in their prisons, their camps, their purges?
Street criminals, terrorists, etc aren't a real threat if one looks at the numbers. It's like getting hit by lightning and government cannot stop them from being armed nor does it want to because it exploits the fear.
By being a tattle-tale, you enable the state. It's rather like the soviet union or any other tyranny where neighbors and friends turn each other in for non-crimes like having certain objects or opinions.
You seem concerned about the poor. Government interventions, government controls only result in making people poorer in the long run. Government has nothing but what it takes from people. It's interferences in the economy result in shortages, inflation, and other horrors. Government doesn't want an educated population any more than it wants an armed one. Educated people will see the scams that are being run for what they are.
All governments turn bad eventually. And before anyone says how do you fight, remember this:
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have
been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make
an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to
say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for
example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city,
people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at
every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but
had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the
downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers,
pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly
have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding
all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!
If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more . we had no
awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved
everything that happened afterward." - Solzhenitsyn
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/18/2008 8:21:02 PM | Very few Americans would give a 3-yr old a gun...fewer still would properly train that child. But consider that many world cultures ARE training their 3-yr olds with guns...and most of them are in the Middle East and Africa. Should I post some lovely pics of 6-yr old girls being trained to fire automatic rifles in Palestine?
I'm quite happy just teaching my kid martial arts right now...it's a reasonable discipline for ages 3-10. Given that the chances of him needing to fire a gun in the next few years are slim, I'm not going down that road unless a major SHTF occurs.
When the time comes, he will learn the way of the gun...military style. The discipline he learns now from the martial arts and archery will serve him well in years to come. It is the duty of those who choose the way of the sword to prepare our children well for the future. Not only as warriors, but also as artists and poets. Everyone has to fight for something...sooner or later. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/19/2008 12:06:38 AM |
Everyone has to fight for something...sooner or later. Shrek, I thought you knew that violence has NEVER solved anything.
I mean, all the jews saved by the allies in ww2, all the American lives saved by us dropping 2 atomic bombs on the pacific front, ending the civil war, granting us our independance from Britain, why everyone knows that the persians were drivin from Sparta through gifts of baby wipes and not violence! | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/19/2008 2:32:23 AM | I would think it would be neat to go to the range together
I've had plenty of "dates" where we took our guns to the pistol range and shot together. If it's a common interest, you're both licensed and qualified to handle a gun, why not? | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/19/2008 10:20:27 AM | | All of this "gun" posting has me excited to attend my gun safety class tomorrow and pick up my new revolver!! I have lived alone now in an isolated area for 2 years and want to be able to protect myself and am willing to learn all I can about gun safety. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/27/2008 7:51:58 PM | Tell me right away! We'd make a date to go to the range!! :)
I have my permit to carry a pistol and my last gf was a total hater. She was always afraid I would use it against her, though I never EVER gave her reason to think that. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/27/2008 8:10:52 PM | | all women should have a gun, if more of them hand guns, and rapists deaths were on the rise, it could send a very strong message out there to predators.......if some guy raped my sister........i'd kill him.......no hesitation..........those men disgust me.. i'm taking her to classes so she knows how to use my 9mm........an educated person who knows how to handle one, yields the comfort of confidene in her safety. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/28/2008 11:25:22 AM | | I pack and don't make an issue of it, neither do I feel it necessary to tell my dates I carry. I have occasionally told a prospective date that I have my concealed carriers license, that way if they have issues with guns they'll know I'm not their gal. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/29/2008 10:50:01 AM | This is a non-issue. If someone has a problem with a woman, or anyone for that matter, owning a gun then they're leftwing pansies who think the police will actually protect them when some maniac is busting down your door! 
If a woman owns a gun then that's great! That means she can come with me to the range and she doesn't have to use my guns!  | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/30/2008 8:29:01 AM | amen msg 578...zeotide. well said!
Guns level the playing field! and what's so scary about this upcoming election....... one candidate is in favor of gun control....need anything more be said? | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/30/2008 8:37:17 AM | Right on glock22shooter..... I don't gee and haw with girly men!... My sons bought me the handgun as a Mother's Day gift. Go boys, I raised them right! 
Guns make great Christmas presents too. I gave the oldest son a glock for Christmas a cpl years back, he's in law enforcement and it'll come in handy. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/30/2008 4:32:13 PM | | I would feel like she is taking responsibility for her self protection..A gun can be a great equalizer if someone is trying to harm a person weaker than them.I believe it is smart.Hope you never have to use it.But best to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/31/2008 10:19:19 AM | Guns are like this...
It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
I hope I never have to use my gun on someone to protect myself or family. I'm a lover not a fighter, but if it is necessary for the welfare of myself and those I love then let it be known I will not hesitate for a split second on putting two hollow points in some gun or knife wielding maniac's chest. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/31/2008 12:10:09 PM | I want to move to America just so I can own a firearm.
I'd either go with a Sig p229, Sig P250 or a CZ110.
Still, none of 'em are going to compare to firing the SA80 down the range when I was a Cadet. | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/31/2008 1:10:35 PM | Wouldnt bother me if it got mentioned casually at any point after meeting them. Unless it was immediatly after greeting
Me: Hi!
Girl: Hi
Me: What's up?
Girl: Well I just got done cleaning my gun now I want to find something to eat
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/31/2008 1:55:10 PM |
Wouldnt bother me if it got mentioned casually at any point after meeting them. Unless it was immediatly after greeting
Me: Hi!
Girl: Hi
Me: What's up?
Girl: Well I just got done cleaning my gun now I want to find something to eat
That might be a little wierd ...only if you didn't ask what caliber, what cleaning technique, and what she wanted to eat.  | |
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| How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN?
Posted: 7/31/2008 3:11:52 PM |
I want to move to America just so I can own a firearm.
I'd either go with a Sig p229, Sig P250 or a CZ110.
Still, none of 'em are going to compare to firing the SA80 down the range when I was a Cadet.
My best friend is a sig guy. I prefer Glocks due to the low bore axis vs. the relatively high bore axis of the sig. Still good pieces though.
The SA-80 is a LOT of fun. A friend of mine is a class 3 (full auto, silencers, short barrel rifles/shotguns and AOWs) dealer and got one as a post sample demo to show to a local Police Dept. It was a fuuuuuuuuuuuuun day 
I just got back from the fun shop this morning, I'm thinking I'm gonna have to have the new Glock 30SF. It'll go with my 21sf rather nicely. | |
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