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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/19/2007 11:59:04 AM | I would say hate is a strong word, but I do have a strong dislike for most of them. Why? Because most strut around like they are better than everyone else.
Because punishment is harsher for those that harm them.
Because they are often busy catching speeders to make money for an institution already supported by tax dollars rather than responding to real crime.
And if I'm honest, because a dork in a uniform looks better than I do in my best threads  | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/23/2007 3:14:01 PM | In our local paper today......A Bradenton Flordia, police officer who dragged a homeless woman's shopping cart along side his cruiser for 12 miles so she wouldn't lose her belongings was ordered to undergo retraining and counseling. Officer Nicholas Evans was praised by homeless advocates, but jeered by peers after arresting Marie Brooks on an outstanding warrent and then pulling her shopping cart to the county jail..Investigators concluded officer Evans showed poor conduct because he bought negative attention to himself and to the department...Officer Evans had bragged to colleagues that he got the cart up to 40mph... Reguardless of what his department and peer think this is a good man..I hope their decision doesn't turn this guy into an a$$hole.... | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/23/2007 3:39:38 PM | To the OP
It is not so much that people hate cops. As they hate the mentality that seems to go with the badge.
Few police officers are ever charged with perjury even when caught in a out right fabrication when testifying in a court of law.
Fewer still are ever charged in a spousal abuse case, a fact which I am quite sure that you are aware of. After all just how many studies have been done on that same subject.
The very same rights which the Constitution gave us are being trampled on by officers on a regular basis.
Then you add in the heavy handed jack boot tactics which are so common. Is it any wonder that cop[s are no longer revered.
Well I think you can get the drift, It is not that we hate you. It is simply that for most of us the respect and trust once embodied in your profession is gone. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/23/2007 7:46:48 PM | ( in canada) well interesting thread i have 2 step brothers who are cops...........my dad got married 1 and a half years ago in the summer...........both step brothers as cops one for 8 years in the traffic part of it and the other one 3 years but in the drug part of the force........ travelling far to this wedding with there families ( thunder bay )to north bay
now as the reception went on and they had a few beers the chuckle of the night was " oh we wore our COP T-SHIRTS to drive up here " we did good timing !!!........ me being there step sister said ahhh why ?..........oh cus if we get pulled over they will let us off ............OR IF WE SHOW OUR BADGE THEY WILL NOD THERE HEAD AND WALK AWAY ..........me being drunk ........i said " well if i was the cop pulling u over i would of slammed your butt hard with tickets cus how is that fair to us citizens who obey the law.........he comment was it is who u know as a cop ......lol..........so my point is it depends WHO U ARE AND WHO U KNOW TO GET LET OFF OR SLAMMED WITH TICKETS.....
they seem to hate SOME COPS cus they seem to use there power as a rookie to strong and sometimes cross the line .....
as for older cops and experienced they seem to back off and let the rookie take care of them when running partners when the experienced one has delt with the person alot and knows there background ......sad
why do ppl hate rookies ?.....rougher,ruder,inexperienced,tougher no bending or give or take, | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/23/2007 9:15:21 PM | I think it's because of the way they have that "cop" look in their eyes.
Just like the salesmen eye's.. those deep, powering eyes.. that is just so uncool. Oh and that squeeky sound of all their guns and radios on that vinyl belt... not cool. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/23/2007 9:46:27 PM | 3.Worked as a police dispatcher for about 5 years. The reason pople dislike cops is mostly because they are just not likeable.
I have never seen such a bunch of gossipy old women! That is all cops do, gossip. When you hear them just setting around being themselves it is obvious they have no respect for anyone. To a cop everyone is dirt. To a cop if a person has not commited a crime rescently they soon will or have in the past.
Before I worked with the police I thought policemen were needed and dedicated protectors fo the people. But working with them soured me for sure. Basically they are power hungry misfits. Mean spirited, nasty and vengeful. They are not really protecting the people they are playing cops and robbers. And most fo them get drunk with power very quickly! | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/24/2007 4:47:15 AM | ROTFLMAO, that would make a good SNL skit. Cops who come back to the station and dress up in drag as little old ladies with grey haired wigs gossiping away!
What's that old saying? Absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/24/2007 10:48:03 AM | | hmmmmmmmmmm ... drunk with power?... testosterone or hormones mixed with firepower? how bout this... turning the cherries on... blowing the red light and pulling into Dunkin Donuts 20 feet away... ~cherries off~ then hobbling in with that over stressed toxic overweight body... SEEN IT! >> Most cops I've come in contact with live by a secret "code". #1 They LQQK out for each other outside of the law they supposedly serve and protect. #2 The policeMEN beat up their girlfriends/wives (both?) ;) and are violent... and cops ALWAYS have CA$H... hmmmmmmmmmmm... #3 they are troublemakers just like the rest of us who just were smarter or luckier in illegal activities (mostly in their youth). #4 ITSA 24 FRIKKIN HOUR DATING SERVICE! ~WITH PERKS~ c'mon... don't EVEN try to deny it #5 Politicians, nurses, doctors, firefighters, paramedics, virtually ALL municipal employees are eligible for ~speeding passes~ itsa nice little club they belong too... Elitism meets fascism meets greed meets capitalism...meets selected private not so free but highly corrupted enterprise. WANTED: Law Enforcement Officers *ask about our secret club priviledges package | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/25/2007 7:25:54 PM |
ROTFLMAO, that would make a good SNL skit. Cops who come back to the station and dress up in drag as little old ladies with grey haired wigs gossiping away!
Watch Reno 911....cable TV | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/25/2007 8:03:33 PM | | Come live in the Peel region in Ontario, Canada....where all the cops are 18 years old, juice monkeys......and see the tax dollars at work.......fukn pathetic. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/28/2007 1:14:11 AM | I have no hatred for the "good" cops (do they even exist anymore?), but the bad ones... well, lets just say I sincerely believe that someday... SOMEDAY, karma or whatever universal power is out there will show them EXACLTY what it's like to be on the other end of the spectrum. They WILL get what they deserve.
As for the criminals, well, I'm sure they get what they deserve, but what about all those non-intentional crimes that cops end up charging you with. A friend of mine was involved in an accident once and a stupid pig wrote him every ticket his tiny little mind could think of. He was laying there in the hospital bed after the accident and the cop enters his room... Does he ask this kid if he was all right? Did he sympathize with him for crashing his car? No, not at all... He just yelled at him and threw 5 tickets on his chest and walked out... (f**ked up isn't it?)
I have a friend who used to be a cop. He retired early because of a back injury. Even he agrees that his former "comrades" were all despicable low-lifes. He told me that on a drug busts, his partner would keep some drugs as evidence, but keep the rest and re-sell them on the side. The only reason why he didn't say anything was because you never rat out a fellow officer... They have a "code of silence" as he put it. A lot of these guys are bad... worse than any stereotypical criminal out there. He also told me how some detectives would plant evidence just so they would get a promotions (even more f**ked up).
* Also, In case everyone wondered why they like to give tickets (as told by my friend the ex-cop): They get paid over time when they have to go to court. Basically they get paid for 3-4 hours of work, but they only have to stay in court for less than 1 hour. They end up making $100 or more each time they go into traffics court. (f**ked up, but hey... I'd do it if I were getting paid that much; so yeah, they really could be doing something more productive, but all they think about is $,$,$) Highway Patrol? More like Highway Robbery!
As for cops being heroes; there's NOTHING heroic about calling in 2 helicopters and 10 more squad cars (2 men each) to back you up just to catch 1 lousy criminal (unless he's got a tactical nuke on him, that's just over kill). One time back in 2006, I had no choice but to fend off a criminal who broke into my restaurant with nothing but a broken broom stick in my hand. He got away of course (ran off after I bashed his head open), but not with my hard earned register money. It took the piggies nearly 30 minutes just to get to the scene (I guess they had to make a quick stop to Dunkin Donuts). In spite of the fact that I know there is a police station less than a mile away. If there is anyone who doubts my story, look it up on Mapquest Columbus OH: My Restaurant = Federated Blvd. / Perry Police Station = Billingsly Rd.... distance: < 1 mile... (911? Totally f**ed up...)
Serve and protect my ass!
If you are a cop and you're reading this, don't be offended, because I'm speaking the truth. Just look into the mirror and ask yourself what kind of person you really are... If you are better than that, then go out there and do your job! Just don't complain if everyone lumps you all into one category based on your "uniform"; you all lump "us" into one category when you pull us over, etc... who's going to be there to sympathize for us; a $200 per hour attorney? I'm sure you don't have to worry, you're above "general traffic" laws... I hate it when cops **** and complain that people don't respect them, when clearly they don't respect us. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/28/2007 11:17:25 AM | Vampire,
I am rather an outsider on the inside, for the most part. After 11 years, I have some friends, but not a fan club.
A bunch of us ran into a burning buliding, which was scary as hell, when there was no time to wait for fire, and get everyone in the building out. These things happen, too.
There are bad people and good people in this world, and within the police culture, it is a cross-section of society.
We try to keep our dirty laundry within, and address it from within, when there is dirty laundry~~internal mechanisms of control.
Unfortunately, some reek so badly that the stench cannot be contained. BUT that is not the majority, I do believe. Also, for the record, I am glad when these dirty scoundrels get caught, and I lament the ones that do not receive their just desserts.
I will go again on the defensive, and say that the dirty ones are in the minority.
I march to the beat of my own drum. When I interview children, I sit on the floor with them. I wear purple socks under my uniform, not of disrespect, but because I do not think the socks make the officer, and that is my subtle way of rebellion.
On the other hand, the criminals really do have more rights than the Victims or the police. This is a really hard tightrope to navigate! | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/28/2007 11:58:47 AM | I have had many good experiences with cops - like the time I was broken down on the interstate and an officer waited with me until a tow truck arrived...and the time I got pulled over for speeding on my way to the hospital where they had just rushed my mother who let me off with a warning and well wishes for my mom....
Then there was ONE time, late at night, I was lost. I turned around on what I thought was a road and a cop was behind me, pulled up and asked why I was trepassing on Township property. I told him I was lost and was just turning around and he grilled me for 10 minutes and even ran my plate before allowing me to leave. He didn't even tell me how to get where I needed to be!
Depends on the cop. I have had more good than bad experiences. In general, I respect them for doing a job I would never want to do. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/28/2007 5:52:04 PM | You "have no hatred for the good cops"?? Your message clearly indicates a different message. For instance, "Piggies". Is that how you also refer to the "good cops"? What department did your alleged police officer friend work for, before he hurt his back? And what do you call him? A retired Piggie?? You don't even like it when officers work overtime, in order to put criminals away? Yep, they sure do get paid a minimum of 4 hours pay for sometimes only being in court for say, 15 minutes. But lets examine that a second. An officer who works the night shift, ends his shift at 7am in most departments. Then, he has to take a cruiser to pick up the people he arrested, and transport them to the court. Then he has to wait in court (courts opens for business at around 9am) and guard the subject and wait for the pretrial hearing. And then after the pretrial hearing is concluded he has to transport the criminal back to the county lock up, where the subject is either released on bond, or put back in a cell. So then, after he returns the subject back to lock up, he returns to his department, parks his cruiser, goes inside the department and finishes up paperwork. If this officer is lucky, and if his subjects' pretrial hearing was around say. . . 1030am (because there are often more then one person and officer present for court) then he may get to leave to go home around noon. And you should know, that the reason this officer is being paid so much, is frankly, he deserves it. He is paid that amount, because he had to go to college to obtain a degree. And all the time he is an officer, he must attend updated classes, to obtain documentation he has been trained by the state. And I'm not talking just about the firing range, which he also must do a minimum of four times a year (if the department can find an available range to do this at.) As a doctor, or lawyer would do, an officer must remain current on all knowledge of laws, how the department handles certain incidents, and are constantly evaluated as to their profinciency, even as they obtain rank.
As for the five citations your alleged friend received in the hospital. . . lets see what they probably were for. . . driving while intoxicated? driving while under the influence of alcohol or drugs of abuse (yep, a different citation) speeding, failure to control a motor vehicle, and maybe one for traveling in marked lanes of traffic. Does the officer have to write all of these citations? Well, this answer is a difficult one, but is based on experience. If you have a prosecutor who wants to be able to plea bargin with your alleged friends' attorney, then yes, an officer will write all of them. He is directed to by the prosecutor. He has no choice. He most certainly will write the DUI citation, and the other for alcohal and drugs of abuse, because they are mandatory if the subject took the breath test, blood test, or urine test and failed. And when they are served to your alleged friend, an officer is not obligated to ask him how he is doing, since your friend was driving drunk, and killed an innocent mother and kids.
Lets talk about the helicopters, and extra officers needed to arrest "one lousy criminal". So your alleged friend has now went and done it. He killed his wife and kids, and is now loose somewhere in your neighborhood, threatening to kill anyone he makes contact with. So. . . exactly how would you expect police to catch this guy, ask him to the nearest pizza place for a slice?? Or would you be really glad to see the police out there doing everything in their power to capture your alleged friend, before he gets to your house, where you're outside washing your car, and have no knowledge that he is nearby wanting to kill even you!
Now lets address you being lumped into the same catagory when officers stop you for a traffic violation. Yep, we sure do. According to our training, you are a potentially dangerous person, who may have recently killed someone, and we don't know it. And you have a gun next to you on your seat. Or, maybe there's someone hidden in the trunk of your vehicle waiting for police to exit their cruiser, so they can blow the cops away. You may have a gun hidden inside your door, or you may be on some drug of abuse, and therefore equally dangerous. An officer doesn't obtain pyschic abilities, just because they wear a badge and carry a gun. So they must approach a vehicle in a manner that they were trained to do. To do any less, could be the difference between life and death for them.
And lastly respect of officers. I don't respect every person I meet (even now that I no longer carry a gun). Neither do you I'd bet. RESPECT IS EARNED, by officers who do their job everyday, to the best of their abilities. Who don't I respect? People who refuse to earn a living, and instead prefer to deal drugs, to the detriment of others. People who disrespect the flag of this country. And people who go out of their way to harm others, for their amusement. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/28/2007 5:55:23 PM | For "VAMPIRE DARC": You "have no hatred for the good cops"?? Your message clearly indicates a different message. For instance, "Piggies". Is that how you also refer to the "good cops"? What department did your alleged police officer friend work for, before he hurt his back? And what do you call him? A retired Piggie?? You don't even like it when officers work overtime, in order to put criminals away? Yep, they sure do get paid a minimum of 4 hours pay for sometimes only being in court for say, 15 minutes. But lets examine that a second. An officer who works the night shift, ends his shift at 7am in most departments. Then, he has to take a cruiser to pick up the people he arrested, and transport them to the court. Then he has to wait in court (courts opens for business at around 9am) and guard the subject and wait for the pretrial hearing. And then after the pretrial hearing is concluded he has to transport the criminal back to the county lock up, where the subject is either released on bond, or put back in a cell. So then, after he returns the subject back to lock up, he returns to his department, parks his cruiser, goes inside the department and finishes up paperwork. If this officer is lucky, and if his subjects' pretrial hearing was around say. . . 1030am (because there are often more then one person and officer present for court) then he may get to leave to go home around noon. And you should know, that the reason this officer is being paid so much, is frankly, he deserves it. He is paid that amount, because he had to go to college to obtain a degree. And all the time he is an officer, he must attend updated classes, to obtain documentation he has been trained by the state. And I'm not talking just about the firing range, which he also must do a minimum of four times a year (if the department can find an available range to do this at.) As a doctor, or lawyer would do, an officer must remain current on all knowledge of laws, how the department handles certain incidents, and are constantly evaluated as to their profinciency, even as they obtain rank.
As for the five citations your alleged friend received in the hospital. . . lets see what they probably were for. . . driving while intoxicated? driving while under the influence of alcohol or drugs of abuse (yep, a different citation) speeding, failure to control a motor vehicle, and maybe one for traveling in marked lanes of traffic. Does the officer have to write all of these citations? Well, this answer is a difficult one, but is based on experience. If you have a prosecutor who wants to be able to plea bargin with your alleged friends' attorney, then yes, an officer will write all of them. He is directed to by the prosecutor. He has no choice. He most certainly will write the DUI citation, and the other for alcohal and drugs of abuse, because they are mandatory if the subject took the breath test, blood test, or urine test and failed. And when they are served to your alleged friend, an officer is not obligated to ask him how he is doing, since your friend was driving drunk, and killed an innocent mother and kids.
Lets talk about the helicopters, and extra officers needed to arrest "one lousy criminal". So your alleged friend has now went and done it. He killed his wife and kids, and is now loose somewhere in your neighborhood, threatening to kill anyone he makes contact with. So. . . exactly how would you expect police to catch this guy, ask him to the nearest pizza place for a slice?? Or would you be really glad to see the police out there doing everything in their power to capture your alleged friend, before he gets to your house, where you're outside washing your car, and have no knowledge that he is nearby wanting to kill even you!
Now lets address you being lumped into the same catagory when officers stop you for a traffic violation. Yep, we sure do. According to our training, you are a potentially dangerous person, who may have recently killed someone, and we don't know it. And you have a gun next to you on your seat. Or, maybe there's someone hidden in the trunk of your vehicle waiting for police to exit their cruiser, so they can blow the cops away. You may have a gun hidden inside your door, or you may be on some drug of abuse, and therefore equally dangerous. An officer doesn't obtain pyschic abilities, just because they wear a badge and carry a gun. So they must approach a vehicle in a manner that they were trained to do. To do any less, could be the difference between life and death for them.
And lastly respect of officers. I don't respect every person I meet (even now that I no longer carry a gun). Neither do you I'd bet. RESPECT IS EARNED, by officers who do their job everyday, to the best of their abilities. Who don't I respect? People who refuse to earn a living, and instead prefer to deal drugs, to the detriment of others. People who disrespect the flag of this country. And people who go out of their way to harm others, for their amusement. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/28/2007 6:08:07 PM | Well since you seem to have answered that poster to the best of your ability. Would you care to explain the rest.
Lets start with the infamous code of silence. When was the last time you arrested one of your buddies for DUI ? Or should you discuss how a fellow officer beat his wife and his friends covered it up ? Maybe you should explain why it is common for drugs to come up missing out of the evidence locker ?
As I stated before the trust and respect that once embodied that fine profession is severely lacking. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/28/2007 6:43:32 PM | For some reason, when I edited my first post, this site wouldn't delete the one I wanted deleted. So, unfortunately, we are stuck with both of them. My sincere appologies to all. Rtrdhrny.
For "DRG1301": Now then. Lets talk about cops who as you say "beat up their spouces". I would have no trouble arresting the offending officer. And I have done that in the past. I don't have to anymore, ever again. Did I take some heat for that? Sure. Would I do it again? Certainly. I don't have any respect for officers who harm their spouces. Just plain wrong, whether or not a guy is a cop or not. The "code of silence"? Only goes so far with me. Would I give a cop a break on a speeding violation? Sure, just as I might do for you.
Why do drugs turn up missing in an evidence locker? Under legitimate circumstances it can go like this. A night officer working for a small department, makes a DUI arrest, and also arrests the same person for drugs of abuse (a bag of marijuana for example). The officer does his paperwork on the drugs and beer from the car, then puts them in his office locker for safe keeping, because often, there is no one at the department who has keys for the evidence room to put them in. The officer must maintain "Chain of Custody" over his evidence. Most departments, not even the chief has keys to the evidence room. So, then the officer can take the evidence out of his locker, put it in his cruiser, and take it all to court. It's an honest proceedure, and excepted at most departments as proceedure.
But I'm sure that you want to find out why drug evidence is taken by bad cops, right? How can that happen? It does. It just does, no getting around it. Sometimes in life, there are bad people, and they work a varity of occupations, including police officers. That's just the way it is.
Here's one more for you. The last time I had to make an arrest of a fellow police officer (for DUI), he was the chief of a small town police department. Did he do time? No. Did he get a large fine? No. He was forced into alcohol/drug treatment, paid a minimal fine ($400.00), and was given another chance, just like you're place of employment might do for you. You may not agree with this, and I understand. He has since retired, before me. I hope this answers your questions. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 1/28/2007 7:38:22 PM | | For "drg1301": I intended to return to the department as a part time officer. However, sometimes God (or whomever is in charge) has other plans. I take care of a parent these days. It was not what I intended for my retirement, you can be sure. Thanks for the compliment. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 2/4/2007 11:07:29 PM |
First off if you hate cops then your obvious doing something you shouldn't be
Oh, please. That's the biggest load of used bovine food I've heard since Dubya's last speech. Way too many cops get into the line because they like the power and they like abusing it. I've seen too much to belive that cops are all good guys. There's just way too much corruption and if you think there isn't, I've got this bridge that you might be interested in buying... | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 2/5/2007 12:22:56 AM | I have met some descent officers. They never seemed to get past the rank constable though.
However most of them are the most arrogant power hoogging, abusive people I have ever met. Is taught that the everyday citizen that are infact your employers are really the enemy.
I worked in a homeless shelter we were directed by the detachement commander to call the police if we ever encountered problems. Good advice right. Not The police 9 times out of 10 were more of a hassle then person I was originally having problems.
I even had one tell me to do my job. I looked at him and said law abiding citizens pay your salery now as a law abiding citizen that makes me one of your many bosses now do your dam job. He did not like it at all and started to yell at me about disrespecting him and police officers.
I had my life threatened the officer arrived listened to what I said and told me it was the hazards of my job and walked away.
Don't ever tell me if i have a problem with the police then chances are that I am on there wanted list.
My friend had 3 finger broke because he refused to give finger prints. I might be abit more sympathetic to the police butr he was 12 years old.
Cops need to remember they are public servants and are employed to protect and serve not serve and protect their own. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 2/5/2007 3:42:49 AM | There are good people in life, and their are evil $hits in life.
They come in all shapes and forms.
Every profession has their bad seeds.
Every profession has some form of corruption.
To hate a whole group that you don't even personally know is STUPID! | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 2/5/2007 1:39:02 PM | The moment I read the title of this forum I found myself feeling aggitated. I know alot of cops, mainly because we have a sh*tload of them in the family. That does not make me respect them, it allows me to see what "some" cops are like.
One time I was pulled over, yeah it was my fault, he was giving me a warning until he realized who my father was, then it was a fine and points! Another time, in bad weather, my exhusband was driving up a hill that happened to have a stop sign at the top. Residential area, not busy, and you could see ahead of time if any vehicles were coming. He had to keep going. Just so happen a cop was behind him. The cop pulled him over and gave him a warning for going through the stop sign. Hello idiot!! If he had of come to a complete stop, he would not of been able to keep going. It would of been a very precarious situation. He would of had to back down the hill onto a busy road, and then still go through the stop sign. This particular cop is on a constant power trip. Then theres the cop that drives while he is impaired, has an accident and flees the scene. Only to be put on one year suspension WITH pay, and was later reinstated!!
Cops seem to get away with alot more than the average citizen. I know all cops aren't bad, but in MY opinion, at least half of them are. Personally I would rather wait out a situation, and I have done this, rather than call a cop.
I am definitely not a cop lover. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 2/5/2007 1:43:33 PM | | i've recently realized how much corruption we have, not only the cops, but the entire criminal justice system. i'd like to see them all behind bars. vigilante justice looks better all the time. | |
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