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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 4/28/2007 1:49:25 PM | onesimpleneed,
Is THAT why nobody will date me?
Let me tell you a bit about myself.
The other day, I received tactical handcuffs in the mail that are HOT PINK, because they are in no way in violation of our uniform regulations, and I look forward to taking a monstrous Felon to jail in pink breacelets.
The last traffic stop I made, the guy pulled right over and had his license and insurance ready for me. I asked him if he knew why I pulled him over, and we had a discussion. I ended the discussion with, "I would not lie to you! But you have insurance, and that is a good thing. I saw what I saw, but just be careful!" To me, this is better education than writing tickets. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 4/28/2007 5:24:04 PM | | For "NotcturnalPrincess": I love the pink handcuffs idea. I think thats funny!! I can imagine some big slob showing up on local tv channels and he's wearing pink handcuffs! I will laugh right out loud when I see it, knowing where they came from! Hope you get to use them soon!! Remember one thing though, ok? Its only fair, that if you use them on some big goon, that you also use them on a female arrestee too. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 4/29/2007 10:32:13 PM |
Does anyone else see the pattern? That's one reason why people don't like or won't date them. Only one of the many reasons...
An incredibly overly simplistic way to look at this. It’s difficult to comprehend that a 39 year old, educated man actually believes this is the way the world operates. Honestly your suppositions don’t make sense; not in the real world. Apparently neither you or your family has ever had police officer as friends. Too bad.
It has been my experience that most persons love having Police Officers as friends, neighbors. As for dating them…….many women love them, actually prefer men in service i.e. Police Officers, Firemen, Soldiers. There’s something quite noble about men protecting, even to the point of dying, humanity, not just a loved one. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 4/30/2007 12:15:01 PM | My experience with women cops, has been mixed.
the Last one said she did not lie, and wanted no lies, that turned out to be a joke.
As I asked her about going to look at the site she was in, and she said that someone else was using the page, that she did not look in the site.
The when we broke up , she stole several things from me.
Said she did not like angry men , well she was so angry that you could feel the anger from 10 feet away. Turned almost violent , and had her daughter accompany her to get some things from my house, I am sure that she was trying to get me to get violent and punch her. No Luck with that, so she stole from me. I am still thinking of filing charges against her, but I know that is almost like taking on the whole force.
She want enemies of her exboyfriends, So be it.
So what do you think about that.
any body sees an Indian motif key chain ,beware as that is her. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 4/30/2007 3:53:36 PM | | My friend and I were at the bar the other night and a sweet young hott cop was walking back to his cruiser parked outfront as usual. She said he had a nice butt, I said it's padded for protection and proceeded to ask him if we could feel it to make sure it was real.... he chuckled ( cuz giggled is a silly feminine word) and talked to us nicely for some time, I also asked him for a ride home but he said not while he was on duty haha... unfortunately no handcuffs were involved, but generally I think police officers can have a sence of humour and even though they get me for speeding way too much, I appreciate what they do for us.... | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 4/30/2007 7:22:31 PM | For "Theadra": Great to see you're still here! Thought you'd left us all for some reason. Anyway. . . . just wanted to relate here, that you are of course right. My neighbors all knew what I did for a living, and told me several times they felt very fortunate to live nearby me. Elderly folks especially find solace in police officers living nearby them.
And as far as women loving men in uniform, I found that to be true when I was in the Marines, and also when I wore the police uniform. But I also feel, that if a man takes good care of himself (excersizes, watches what he eats, bathes regularly, brushes his teeth, combs his hair), takes pride in his appearance and so forth, a uniform is not necessary. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/1/2007 1:23:55 AM | for rtrdhmy.
I am not sure about the law but I was going by what was told to me by her father who had been on the force for over 20 years. He claimed it was ok to display the FOP emblem and had one on everybodys car in the family. I figure he would know or else he wouldnt have put it on my car in the first place.
As for the drunk driving. Yes i was given a break but I also wasnt that bad. If i would have failed a test, it wouldnt be by much. The officer who pulled me over also did so with every intention of a drinking and driving arrest. He pulled me over because he said i wasnt staying in the lines. he was all ready for me to walk the line and take a breath test. His tune didnt change until we said who her father was. Yes I got a break but I highly doubt i would have seen that break if I wasnt in the car with a cops daughter. We were pulled over right after the bar closed.
Her father got a break but he was plastered, was in an accident which sent his car onto the grass of a divided highway. He was so messed up, he didnt even know what city he was in. Even I wouldnt expect to get a break from something like that. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/1/2007 7:22:03 AM | Jilted,
I believe that your negative experience with a woman involved a person and not a uniform. Have you ever had mixed relationship results with a woman that, say, was a waitress. Was it because she was a waitress or because of who she was as a person? | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/1/2007 8:27:03 AM | | Look I'm not too fond of the police either but I have had some bad experinces with them, in more than one country. I also have had some good ones too, but the point is no one likes the people that are authority figures. I don't think this world would be a great place to live without them, we can't have people commitng crimes and getting away with them. We need the police but that doesn't mean you have to like them. This county has given the police a bad rap for some time now but it's not like they don't have reason, the police have done some messed up things to people, but it is always the few who ruin it for the many. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/1/2007 10:29:26 AM | nocturnalprincess , it may have been more the person, but she also broke many laws in the time we were dating , also she has a car that she bought out of state, and would not register it in the state we are living, If she got stoped she pulled her badge.
I think she was just a bad person altogether. Not so much as a cop. just bad period
thanks for your feedback, as it did put my experience in the right place,
it just pisses me off that she had a badge...... and abused it. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/1/2007 12:01:57 PM | I live in within the city limits of St. Louis, MO.
I see police running red lights and stop signs almost daily, even when they don't have their sirens on, or appear to be in a particular hurry.
When I was younger, I drove a real piece of crap car. In fact, my first several cars were real junkers.
I got pulled over CONSTANTLY when I'd drive my car. But when I drove my girlfriend's (at that time) nice new car (her parent's bought) which I did almost as much as I drove my OWN car, I didn't get pulled over ONCE. I did not drive the car differently than I did my own.
Now that I have a "respectable" car (Honda Civic) I rarely get pulled over.
One of the guys who my old band used to keep around as a "bruiser" who was known for being a violent, aggressive alcoholic, is now a police officer.
I'd like to pose this question to all the people who are going to respond by saying "But there ARE good cops":
When a "good cop" sees one of his police bretheren breaking the law, does he report them? When he sees one of his police bretheren roughing up a detainee unnecessarily, does he say anything? Does he report the incident? Does he pull out the cuffs and slap them on his fellow officer for assault?
If he doesn't do this EACH AND EVERY TIME he sees another officer breaking the law, or if he EVER speeds without being on the way to an emergency or if he EVER runs a stop light in the middle of the night when nobody's around... If he lets pretty girls off the hook for speeding... etc. he should NOT be wearing that badge.
Last year in St. Louis, several officers were disciplined because they busted scalpers who were selling tickets to the World Series and then USED THOSE TICKETS THEMSELVES. (They were not fired for this.)
I could keep going. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/1/2007 11:00:59 PM | For "ra7593": Ok, so a cop with over 20 years on the force puts an emblem on your car, and you figure, sure its ok, he put it there. Well, I had over 25 years on the force when I retired, and I know better then to just hand over one of those emblems, to my daughters boyfriend. So he was wrong to do so for you. It sounds like he was all about making impressions to people. He made a really good one with you, didn't he? Especially when he got himself good and drunk, and he should have been arrested and so forth, do to the accident, and instead he got a break. Yep! He's made a lasting impression on you. And he screwed that up too! And it makes me wonder how he managed to rise up in rank.
And yes, I know I said that he is a person first, and everyone deserves a break now and then. But you've enlightened me a bit more about the man, and he would have been arrested by me, had I caught him drunk, and there wouldn't have been any break for him. I've seen tripple fatalities in one car accidents, caused by a drunk driver. And as I said before, I hated arresting drunk drivers, because a drunk driver is a pain in the ass. But I've made exceptions. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/1/2007 11:16:16 PM | Hi rtdhrny,
takes good care of himself (excersizes, watches what he eats, bathes regularly, brushes his teeth, combs his hair), takes pride in his appearance LOL, of course, needless to say.
About uniforms, now that you've brought it up; I was very young when, because of a drunk neighbor, the police were summoned. Well he rode in on his motorcycle, knee-hi black leather boots, skin tight pants. He was like a God to me, really. I was lucky, my husband had a Harley, a horse and boots,
but not the knee-hi ones. Anyway I like that uniform rolleyes: but that's just me. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/1/2007 11:19:25 PM | | They make me feel like even if I am being a law abiding ciizen they will still find a reason to give me a big fat ticket! And the uniform does nothing for me! OINK!OINK! | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/2/2007 2:45:11 AM | Draygonfly,
I do not find your sense of humor very amusing, but to each his own. Have you actually gotten "big fat tickets" while being a "law abiding citizen?" If so, you should have beaten them in court, though you should not have had to go to court in the first place, as you should not have received a ticket if you were completely law-abiding, as you say.. However, your "oink, oink" comment rather makes me believe that you were most likely uncooperative, and mouthy, and belligerent, and may have been arrested for Disorderly Conduct in the past.
Let's put it this way. If the neighbors complain about you being a nuisance, and we beg you half a dozen times to go inside, but you still insist upon being a nusiance, then you go to jail. Please define your definition of "law abiding" because there are enough people committing crimes that we do not need to trump up charges against innocent persons!
We have a job to do, and it isn't always an easy job, and your addendum was totally uncalled for. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/2/2007 3:45:46 AM | | I don't hate cops, I like the old guys that been doing it for over 10 years, you know the ones that'll give you a warning after they catch you going 20 km/h over the speed limit. Those police officers are great! I just hate the young punk cops that think they have something to prove. Like the ones that pull you over for going 5 km/h over the speed limit, (near quota time) and make you step outside your car and search it to see if you have something. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/2/2007 1:14:04 PM |
Please define your definition of "law abiding" because there are enough people committing crimes that we do not need to trump up charges against innocent persons!
We have a job to do, and it isn't always an easy job, and your addendum was totally uncalled for. Well said, Princess.
I just hate the young punk cops that think they have something to prove. Like the ones that pull you over for going 5 km/h over the speed limit, (near quota time) and make you step outside your car and search it to see if you have something.
Wah, Wah, Wah., Boo Hoo.....yeh................nobody ever searches without probable cause; you sound like the typical jealous guy of anyone in authority because you see your self without power. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/2/2007 6:52:01 PM | theodara
nobody ever searches without probable cause;
Well maybe you can explain why one of the standard questions asked during a routine traffic stop is can I take a look inside your vehicle.
Now don't tell me that it was a odor of alcohol or drugs. I know better. It happened to me just today. I don't drink or do drugs. The reason for the stop 3 miles over the limit.
I refused the search. He said if I left then it was refusing a lawful order and called for a K-9.
Guess what nothing was found And not even a warning was issued.
So tell me again that nobody ever searches without probalble cause.
BTW A report will be filed on this. I have already taken care of that.
So it is not a case of hating cops. but crap like this goes a long way toward explaining a lot of the disrespect. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/2/2007 9:41:39 PM | Well the fact that you called me theodara may indicate that you’re stoned or drinking, no?
Well maybe you can explain why one of the standard questions asked during a routine traffic stop is can I take a look inside your vehicle. That is so not a standard question during a traffic stop.
I’ve never been asked to permit a car search nor has anyone I know during a traffic violation stop. You don’t know what constitutes “probable cause”. I’m certain they had reason to want to search your car. You know what really bugs me about guys like you is that you think a safe environment is just supposed to happen without the police doing searches or interrogating suspicious persons. If a police officer asked to search my car maybe he was following a clue about an auto just like mine, so what, at least he’s trying to keep society safe. I think it’s a real wussy attitude to take, “so now I’m gonna tell on you.” Grow up, we live in a society not a free for all.
My brother, (a real man) was once arrested, taken to the station and fingerprinted because he had the same name and fit the description of a dangerous, wanted felon. When the police realized, by the fingerprint comparison, the mistake, they apologized; my brother understood. It’s not a perfect system, nothing is. So the next time that happens to you try handling it like a man. You’re not perfect either.
It is so stupid that this incident you speak of ,
goes a long way toward explaining a lot of the disrespect. I’m not buying it, some like, you are just disrespectful of authority. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/2/2007 10:20:23 PM |
I’ve never been asked to permit a car search nor has anyone I know during a traffic violation stop. You don’t know what constitutes “probable cause”. I’m certain they had reason to want to search your car Ok i read a few of your posts in this thread and i was going to keep my mouth shut but you are completely wrong in your judgement of the other posters on this thread. Just because you have'nt experienced it does'nt mean that everyone else is imagining things.
I don't think you read the papers that much do you? How many police departments across the country have been investigated and officers dismissed for violating the public 's rights by performing illegal searches of vehicles without probable cause or planting evidence on innocent people to boost their arrest records?
In my county a few officers were suspended for profiling black people on the highway, stopping them without probable cause and searching their cars. Some cops do think because they have authority they can do whatever they want whether it violates your rights or not.
Wake up!! Not all cops are saints...although i do think the majority of police officers practice within the law there are a few who should not be wearing a badge | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/3/2007 2:09:17 AM |
i was going to keep my mouth shut Since you obviously can’t comprehend what you read you should have. I responded to a question,
maybe you can explain why one of the standard questions asked during a routine traffic stop is can I take a look inside your vehicle. THIS IS NOT A STANDARD QUESTION, I didn’t say it never happens. And when it does happen it is for probable cause for the most part.
I don't think you read the papers that much do you? Not the same ones you do, why don’t you share some of those newspapers with us?
How many police departments across the country have been investigated and officers dismissed for violating the public 's rights by performing illegal searches of vehicles without probable cause or planting evidence on innocent people to boost their arrest records? Not very many I’m sure of that. So where’s your evidence of all that paranoia, they’re out to get us mentality? Please provide the sources. Boost arrest records by nailing innocents, come on, now you’re really being stupid. Haven’t you read any of the posts by the police officers on here? They don’t need to arrest innocents, we’ve loads of criminals; or haven’t you read about them in your newspapers?
In my county a few officers were suspended for profiling black people on the highway,
That’s probably because some bleeding heart activists complained and the city caved in as it usually does. You don’t get it, do you. If they're looking for a black man in a black, or blue car (did not get a definite color description) they’re going to pull over some innocent folks, so what? Reread my post, it happened to my brother. As a man he’d rather be inconvenienced than to allow a dangerous felon to remain at large. It’s not science; it’s not a perfect world.
Take your head out of the sand, it’s about time you learned how the world works and at least attempt to comprehend that most Police Officers are here to help, protect even you. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/3/2007 5:33:02 AM | 2 words - Rodney King
Tis a shame :(
I respect police for protecting the general public. I do understand the adrenaline rush they get in a chase, and it over-rides common sense. Everyone who hates police, is probably breaking the law anyway. However Canada is waaaaaaaay different then the USA. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/3/2007 10:23:25 AM | First of all, Rodney King was high on "wet." There is no explaining their superhuman strength and feel no pain quality.. I think that was discussed a few pages ago. When their buzz wears off, they feel like they were hit by a truck, but while high, almost no means are effective in subduing them, and it certainly does look like brutality to the outside eye. I also agreed that I think those officers' adrenaline got the best of them; however, getting a suspect cuffed is only half of the battle, and you still have to get them in the car, get them to jail and get them booked.
They now call high on wet or in a "crisis" ED (Excited Delirium), and these are the people that smoke marijuana joints dipped in formalehyde or use PCP (elephant tranquillizer) and then go out of control and start running around naked.
There was one woman that was about 5-03, 125 lbs., and we got a third party call for a Domestic. We got to the door and heard the screaming. A five year-old little girl opened the door for us. There were used condoms on the windowsill next to the bed, and marijuana next to the bedstand, and neighbors reported that there had been men in and out (no pun intended) all day long.
The child was taken to her grandmother's.
The woman swung a punch at me and tried to push me off the rear upstairs porch steps.
We called for backup. The Calvary arrived. She was most definitely a NO PERSON and was high on wet.
It took six burly men to carry her down the stairs after she was cuffed and to place her in our zone car (two ath the front, two at the back, and two in the middle). Meanwhile, while she was in this state, she was responsible for caring for a small child!
We took her to the hospital rather than to jail, because of her ED. My partner, myself, three hospital security personnel, and every member of the ER staff was there trying to hold her down, even though we already had her in restraints, and one of the staff was a buff 230 lb. muscular body-builder. This woman spit on the doctor.
They gradually gave her sedatives, and the ER staff was astounded at how much they had to give her! It was enough to kill somebody, but she kept thrashing away. Everyone trying to hold her down worked up a sweat. When her buzz wore off, she wanted to sue the hospital and the police...go figure?
She wound up going to prison for homicide for a different offense in another juridiction.
Last night, I saw two cars run a red light right in front of me. I pulled over the second car, because he was "more guilty" and both of them pulled right over. He had his license and insurance ready for me, and he was from the suburbs whereas I work in the City. Really nice man.
I asked him if he knew why I pulled him over, and he did not. I asked him if he thought the suburban department would give him a break, and he hedged. Then, I said, "You have insurance. I can't write you a ticket. You both ran the light, but I could not pull BOTH of you over. Have a good night, and be safe!"
"Oink, Oink!" Yep, that's me.
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/3/2007 12:21:52 PM | Another story about the "glory" of police officers.
I got pulled over one night when I was about 18 on my way to a movie, because one of my tail lights had apparently burned out. I had my girlfriend and roommate with me in the car.
The officer ran my license and it came back with a traffic warrant (for an unpaid speeding ticket). The officer cuffed me, threw me in the back of the squad car, and then proceeded to tell me that he was going to search my car.
I told him there was nothing to find, but he went through the whole car, threw my possessions out in the street, even went through the trouble of removing my spare tire from it's compartment (and didn't put it back.) After he didn't find anything incriminating, he told my roommate and my girlfriend (both of whom had valid licenses and no warrants) that they could walk home, because he was going to have my car impounded.
This was NOT the nicest part of St. Louis that we happened to get pulled over in, and it was WELL after dark. (It was also bitterly cold.) My girlfriend was 110 lbs and 17 years old. He wouldn't let them take my car, even after they both produced proof of insurance and licenses and instructed them to walk home. (Home being about 15 miles away.)
When I complained politely to him (from the back of the squad car) that he was being unreasonable, he threatened to beat me if I wouldn't be quiet. (Keep in mind my hands were cuffed behind my back.) So I made a point to exercise my right to remain silent from thence forth.
When we got to the station, they asked me my name, and I didn't answer. They asked me all sorts of questions, and I remained mute. They then manhandled me into a holding cell (I didn't resist) and threw me into it, causing me to fall to the ground.
When I hit the ground, i decided I would just stay there. So I lay on the ground, refused to answer questions or to respond in any way to the torments, taunts and insults that were being directed at me.
They stated that if I didn't start responding, they were going to call an ambulance and have me taken to the hospital for observation. That sounded good to me, so I remained silent.
When the EMT crew arrived, they let them into the cell with me and I sat silently and allowed them to check my pulse, check my pupils for dilation, and other minor indignities. They even went so far as to put a LOT of pressure on my chest with an elbow, presumably to see if I would "react" to the pain. (I did. They laughed.)
They then strapped me (unresisting, not talking) face down on a stretcher and put me in the back of the ambulance. The officer who had arrested me in the first place was the only one in the back of the ambulance with me on the way to the hospital.
Because I would not respond to his continued jabs and taunts, he put his thumb just behind the spot where my jaw hinges and applied a great deal of pressure. This was the one and only time I spoke since arriving at the police station. I looked up and said "go ahead, break it."
I got to the hospital, they checked me in on an overnight suicide watch, and then released me to my own recognizance in the morning.
It cost me over a week's pay to get my car out of impound. I got a bill from the hospital for almost $1000, even though I never asked to be admitted, and indeed, nothing was wrong with me.
All of this because I exercised my "right to remain silent" after being caught on a traffic warrant (unpaid ticket, remember?) with no drugs, no criminal record and no violent or suspicious behavior (unless being young qualifies as suspicious behavior).
Also, nobody, including the police officer in this thread, responded to my earlier question about "Good Cops":
What do you do when you see another officer breaking the law (even in a minor way, like running a red light?) Do you arrest them? Turn them in? Mention it to your supervisor? Have you ever seen or suspected any infringement of a prisoner's rights? If you have (and of course you have) and you didn't do anything about it then you aren't a good cop, and don't deserve to wear the badge.
Yes, police are humans too, and they make mistakes. But they also CHOSE to take that kind of responsibility on FOR PAY. If you don't want that kind of responsibility or cannot handle it, go wait tables. If you cannot uphold the law impartially, every time, you ought not EVER try to enforce ANY of it. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/3/2007 12:55:28 PM |
Not very many I’m sure of that. So where’s your evidence of all that paranoia, they’re out to get us mentality? Please provide the sources. Boost arrest records by nailing innocents, come on, now you’re really being stupid. Haven’t you read any of the posts by the police officers on here? They don’t need to arrest innocents, we’ve loads of criminals; or haven’t you read about them in your newspapers? Paranoia? Please lady you like to twist things to your liking. I was merely stating that not ALL cops are saints as you like to believe ...corruption does exist among SOME officers not ALL but you rather choose to believe ALL cops are model citizens and anyone who disagrees with you is either a criminal or paranoid.
Take your head out of the sand, it’s about time you learned how the world works and at least attempt to comprehend that most Police Officers are here to help, protect even you. Protect EVEN me? No kidding and here i thought i did'nt deserve it}
FYI...i do agree with you that MOST officers are here to protect and that is exactly what i said in my previous statements of course you failed to read that part
Since you obviously can’t comprehend what you read you should have. I responded to a question You responded to other posters REPLIES as i also did to your reply , it's ironic that you accuse me of lacking comprehension skills when yours are at a first grade level | |
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