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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/13/2006 2:07:36 PM | I'd like to add that the good 'ol boys club doesnt really exisit. My best friend is RCMP and he has ticketed me for speeding. I'm in the EHS world and I dont expect favors.
Dont forget too people that when you get a grumpy cop, you dont know what kind of call he/she just came from.
Not only that, but if there werent cops... your city would be full of drugs, violence, street racing, drunk drivers, child abusers, crack houses. You should thank these people, not crap on them.
Besides, you do the crime, you do the time. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/13/2006 2:27:16 PM | i disagree the good old boys network does exist.
that's the problem!
where's burt lancaster when we need him!
was that western called the lawman? | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/13/2006 6:06:03 PM | Dag! My brother was in undercover narcotics for 30 years. I have a hard time taking an advil without thinking that my brother will kick my butt for swallowing it!! lol
Now, down in the sunny state of Florida the cops are nothing more than gun toten' surfer dudes! Would I trust cops down here to protect me from harm? As Junipermoon stated..it depends on the geographical location. They are just trying to slim the gator and shark attacks down here..no time for REAL crime..lol
You're on you own down here in "Jurassic Park!" Hone a gun, a fishing rod, a bow and arrow, a spear, and the ability to count votes on election day..then you're home free!
Sans | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/13/2006 6:42:13 PM | | I like a lot of the older cops; they're a lot more professional and they don't screw around. I'm not too fond of the younger ones, they can be pretty arrogant in a "respect my authoritah" kind of way. Not all of them, but quite a few of the ones I've met can be. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/13/2006 10:28:20 PM | | I did'nt start hating cops until I finally figured out why there were never any donuts left at the donut shop whenever I would stop by on my way to work | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/13/2006 11:00:13 PM | I disagree with the lawless society bit, and the idea that we are all just victims waiting to happen without the police force.
While I have nothing against cops, there has never been one around when I really needed one. After the fact, yes... at which point it was more of a nuissance than a blessing to be honest. But when I *really* needed one, never.
If there was no police force, communities would come together to police themselves... just like they did for thousands of years before the advent of the centralised state. And while the highly individualized culture/s of the West might make the true rebirth of *community* a bit of a challenge, once a community got it's act together, it would find itself the beneficiary of resources and manpower, and probably firepower, that far outstrip any local gang.
What keeps the giant of the community asleep? Open to "victimization" by those who are, comparatively, mice? An ingrained belief that it can't help itself... or else. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/13/2006 11:15:08 PM | I've been reading all of your posts and I thank you all for replying and I hope that some of the things I've said here help you to understand cops a little better, if you disagree with what I say, then isn't it great that we have the privilige TO disagree here. One thing I've been hearing is that cops seem to be "on duty" all the time... WE ARE. Ours is not a profession that we simply can put down or leave "at the office" most departments require that their officers be subject to recall to duty 24/7/365 and many require that they always have their badge,I.D. and weapon with them. Once you take the oath of office,you are a LAW Enforcement Officer all the time. Doctors don't stop being doctors when they leave the office and cops don't stop being cops at the end of the shift. Like doctors, it's not just what we do, it's who we are, it's a mindset and attitude, and it's not for everyone,blackaces, we are a very exclusive club and just like the U.S.Marines, we're looking for only the "Best" (and like the Marines, we don't always get the best). Younger cops do have to go through a "seasoning" process, they have to develop some street smarts and usually within a year (or getting their a$$ kicked a couple of times on duty) they begin to realize that they are not "Highspeed proto-type super cops" and they settle down to do the often thankless job that they have CHOSEN to do. Cops are people too and we have all the frailties and vices that other people have. The public wants us to be "human" yet we are held to a higher standard than "civilians" and our screw-ups are judged to be more severe than those of "regular people". You must place your trust in us to protect you, yet you hate us when we do. I guess it's like an e-mail I have says; "there are 3 types of people in the world... Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs. The sheep fear the wolves and depend on the sheepdog to protect them yet the sheepdog looks like the wolf, so they fear him also even though he protects them. A sheepdog , though he resembles the wolf must never act like a wolf and turn of the sheep for if he does, he must be destroyed and he never was a sheepdog to begin with... he really was a wolf all the time.
I am a Cop, A Police Officer, A Protector, A SHEEPDOG if you will, and proud to be one.
I am a part of that thin blue line that holds back the darkness.   | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/13/2006 11:33:57 PM | On a serious note....I work closely with Law Enforcement and I've known alot of officers over the years.
Are there some punk cops? Sure there are. Are there cops that take advantage of their power and the trust that people put in them? Sure there are. Thing is, is that you can choose any public service sector whether government or civillian and point those types out.
Most of the cops I've known are honest, decent people who are doing thankless things in thankless situations for thankless people. They are people too and they want their children to live in a safe environment as much as anyone else does. We forget about the human side of those who wear the uniform and carry a badge. And we forget that they are citizens of their respective communities just like you and I.
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 5:39:03 AM | Because cops HAVE NEVER done anything good for me. In fact, they've only caused me more problems than I had in the first place. They are the LAST people I would call if I needed any help!  | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 6:20:19 AM | | OOOOKKKKKK, who would you call first if you needed help, I mean... the UPS guy is probably a really good delivery man, but if an armed robber has broken into your house and is holding you hostage, I wouldn't think he would be the first choice to come in and rescue you. Just a thought, I could be wrong. If cops have only caused you trouble, what kind of trouble has that been? I don't know ANY cops that harass honest, law abiding citizens just for sh!ts & giggles. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 6:31:32 AM | "I don't know ANY cops that harass honest, law abiding citizens just for sh!ts & giggles."
that's good to hear!
now what do we do about the cops that harass honest, law abiding citizens just to
keep the profit making prisons the lawyers, judges, probation, parole, and the zillion
other profitng groups that depend on crime going? | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 6:35:17 AM | msg 37:
yes. in my town, i trust the ups guy more than i do the police. he served in the marine corps and has the scars to prove it.
when i've called to police, due to fights in my building, i hear them in the hallway, yukking it up with the drunk, stoned, out-of-control kids.
i wish the ups guy lived in my building. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 7:02:37 AM | | It takes a special person to take a job that he knows people will hate him for. I fully respect our boys in blue, tan, green... whatever. Of course I'm a dispatcher, but even dispatchers are excluded from the Boys Club. That doesn't change my opinion of them. They've got the toughest job out there and they are never called because someone is happy. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 7:43:56 AM | They have never done anything for me. Not when they (i know who it was) broke into my garage.
Not when we called them because the tenants were trashing the house, as
they were moving out. They didn't even bother come out. But when the same tenant put a hole in my tires and I asked him how come my tires are flat, and he called them coz I accused him of something then surely they came. When highschool students bashed in my windshield at the highschool I was at. (They threw a ballbearing at my windshield as I drove by), they said, are they still there? I said I dont know, they could be. Then they said they can't do anything. Nor did 911 seem to care much after I called them when a bunch of guys in a car started chasing me and I did 120+ downtown Fonthill at night to try to loose them. Heck practically 911 hanged up on me. Then one day the police called and asked for, donations? Ya right.
Only time I liked cops, was when I was 12, and back in Europe I was able to drive with my grandfather even on the highway once coz my grandfathers brother was a big shot at the local police station. Otherwise u had to wait till u were 18...
Other than that I don't have a problem with them. Most of them are fairly understanding people, but they never done anything for me when I needed them to. LOL call 911 if someone breaks into your home? Armed robber even? 911 wouldnt be the first thing on my mind. the 12" kitchen blade, or a baseball bat, and then go towards the noise would be the first thing on my mind. By the time they would get here as I know them ur either robbed or possibly dead. Everyone for themselves. Criminals are too smart and fast to be caught by police most of the time. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 8:55:59 AM | Ben,
I know you probably take it personally, when you hear that
a lot of people don't care for cops. I wonder what you would
say if someone you loved had bad experiences with cops.
Many cops abuse that badge. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 9:19:52 AM | State Patrol has always been interesting to me. I would love to hide out on the freeway and catch speeders all day long. Make some more people hate the cops beucase cops were doing their job. Gotta love law breakers that blame cops. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 10:26:50 AM | | Unfortunately, cops earn the state a lot of money in speed trap towns. Even if you are not speeding through our town, they usually pull you over to see if you have insurance or if your seatbelt is unbuckled. They harass a lot of people in our area and make a bundle for the state. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 10:27:26 AM | There is nothing wrong with speeding on the highway. You want to catch non criminals, thats a fine job. People not signaling, cellphoneing, and feeding while driving pose a much much greater risk to humanity. Speeders rarely cause accidents on the highway because they pay attention. Its usually people that are distracter or just generally non-attentive to their driving are who cause problems. Like a blonde chick with a cellphone who was doing about 40mph on the highway and pulled in front of a 50 ton trailer... She got scared by the horn and ended up driving into the ditch.  | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 11:01:50 AM | Laws dont make something right or wrong. :D
For example wardriving is not wrong in my eyes.
Its statistics. You get to see how many people who purchased wireless routers,
are competent computer users, or if they are people who spend the time to read
the manual. You are not necessarily looking at the contents of their network,
or using their internet. You are just checking how much of the broadcasting APs
are encrypted. Yet there have been laws passed many places against it.
Yes I know people who will delete your files and turn off your internet. That is wrong.
I ended up encrypting some of the peoples networks for free, and they were happy. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 11:21:04 AM | cops are really the same as anyone else although they are given a position of power and that by any "human" can be easily abused.
I personally have not had any run ins with police aside from a few traffic tickets and some stuff I did when I was a kid and spent three years in Juvi for it. But in my case it was always something that I did wrong so I can't say anything about a person doing his job.
We recently had an officer get shot and killed in my neighbourhood and I thought the amount of media attention was a bit absurd since he put himself in the line of fire everytime he walks into one of the crack houses around here or whatever It's his job.
strangely to me though I thought that it was interesting to know that it had been 126 years since a cop was killed in the line of duty in my city. I would have thought the numbers would have been higher. Who knew ? | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 11:38:38 AM | There is nothing wrong with speeding on the highway You may be right. Sometimes speed limits are even set by governments as a means of collecting revenue.
but........ the cops themselves don't make these laws. The police officer is just an employee, doing his/her job, who's being paid to enforce the rule that legislators have made.
A speed limit is clearly posted. It's up to us to chose to obey it or not. When we chose to dis-obey it, we do so being fully aware that a speeding ticket may be a consequence.
Why hate the person who wrote the ticket?????
If we get a speeding ticket, we get it because we knowingly broke a rule. Not because the cop was being mean to us. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 11:57:46 AM | Well personaly, I can't stand cops. They are taught that they are "above" the rest of scociety, that they are somehow better than the rest of us. They can break the law and not get ticketed or arrested. They are really nothing more than uneducated thugs with a gun and badge. They have absolutly no problem with lying as long as they can make whatever trumped up charges stick. They are sanctioned by the Supreme Court to lie without reprocussions to get information on an investigation. They lie so much in doing their duty that after time can no longer tell the truth. They are nothing more than the lowest denominator for the collection of money needed to pay for their very jobs and the county/city opperating budget. When I see a cop, I see a scumbag with a badge.
Everyone always says that it's just a few "bad seeds" that spoil it for all the good cops. Keep on believing that BS. The truth is there are so many "bad seeds" that the couple good ones are never seen by the public.
I think it's so funny how cops always say, "we don't have a quota". BS! If thats true then I'd like to see what would happen if a traffic cop went an entire month and only handed out warnings. I can guarantee you he'd be on probation or at the least his a$$ thoroughly reamed out.
NO! I do not have this attitude because I have been on the wrong side of the law. I know the cops love to make themselves believe that. They just can't imagine why anyone would dislike the police if that person isn't doing anything wrong. Well the truth of the matter is I have cops in my family and they SUCK! They used be cool, they used to be normal. Now they're A-holes with an major attitude. One is small for a guy so he got picked on alot in school. So he joined to get those A-holes back for treating him like that (his words, not mine).
6 or 7 years ago a cop in town got shot. So of course every friggin off duty cop from anywhere within driving range showed up for the funeral. At the time I bartended at one of the most popular bar/restaurants in town. The night before the funeral we had tons of cops pouring in for a night of drinking and toasting their lost "brother". Almost all of them showed up driving and alot were driving a cop car, there were more than 40 cop cars in the parking lot. They all got smashed drunk. And you guessed it, they all drove out of there. But yet not one got a DUI, hmmmmmmmm... Just lucky I guess. Cha Riiight!!
Oh yes people the good ol' boy network is still alive and well. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 12:10:28 PM | I wouldn't say I hated police officers... But when I see them I get uneasy and a small feeling of panic comes over me. I've never even been arrested. They just have that effect on people.
Or it could be the pot. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 2:27:50 PM | | How do I like cops as my hoe? I'd really like to have cops for hoe's I'm sure I'd make alot of money..Just being the smart a$$ you guys don't like, and hey! Remember we are your bread and butter. I actually like most cops but they don't like me very much (when I'm drunk) so I'm sober now...Sometimes I see other people being treated bad and it pisses me off but then if I knew the whole story maybe I would agree with the emergency service person..Yeasterday I saw a woman fall down have an alcoholic seizure then start throwing up blood it's not a pretty sight it's horrible she went really pale and I thought she was going to die..This was directly across from the homeless shelter here a drug/alcohol detox and right next door to a very overworked fire house these guys probley get called out fifty times a day and most of the time they are going directly across the street. Anyway no one had a cell phone so several guys ran to the detox for help but the detox slammed their door in their faces, (Even if I win the lottery they will never get a friggen dime out of me for that stunt.) I ran to the fire house rang their doorbell, pounded on their door, then started on their garage door, another guy not polish like me grabbed their emergency phone and called them it still took five minutes for them to come out but the police were called because they thought I was attacking their fu king firehouse...Yea bullshit. I was so fu king mad here's this gal bleeding to death...O.K. They're firemen I got mad I says let them have me arrested I'll sue the whole lot of them for not doing their job, and after I said that I heard a cop bust out laughing.. Ah will the worse part about it is the gal...They take her to the hospital clean her up they were going to admit her and she walks out...Dude I saw alot of blood and it was thick at least a pint and a half if not two, and she gets up and walks out, not only that but she goes out and has a drink. I think I would have lost it long before our local police,firemen,medic's would...As long as I have lived in Santa Barbara I have never had a problem with the police unless I bought it on myself they have never hit me or even made a move to start a fight with me..I on the other hand fought them while under the infulence of alcohol quite a few times once I picked one up and dumped him over his car, about a dozen times I attemptted suicide by cop telling them I had a gun..Once I threw up on a sargent and called him "Butt Ugly." Another time I told a polish cop polish jokes..All of these and many other actions worthy of a gunshot somewhere painful or at least a good a$$ kicking I never got..I can't understand when people tell me some cop kicked their a$$, I don't know if it really happened because believe me I had it comming and they didn't do it to me..People say it's because I'm a big guy but it don't matter size really has nothing to do with it..I wouldn't date a cop though I get aniexty now real bad now that I'm sober and that would put me in the looney bin for sure.. | |
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