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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/3/2007 4:22:47 PM | Well the fact that you called me theodara may indicate that you’re stoned or drinking, no?
No the only thing that it indicates is that I misspelled your name. The fact that you jump to conclusions is rather obvious though.
You don’t know what constitutes “probable cause”. I’m certain they had reason to want to search your car
No I am quite aware of what constitutes probable cause.
Maybe you have not been asked for a vehicle search during a stop but around here it is common enough that many people have had cases thrown out of court because of a illegal search.
It has also been pointed out that refusal to allow a search is not probable cause for a search nor is it cause for a officer to detain you.
Your rather pathetic attempt to cast doubt on my manhood is further telling of your inability to legally further your argument.
I’m not buying it, some like, you are just disrespectful of authority.
No I am respectful of those who have earned my respect. That does include many who you would term as authority figures.
I am also respectful of those who do not just roll over for a LEO who has not acted in accordance with legal procedures.
BTW I received a call today from the police chief with an apology for the actions of his officer. Evidently I am not the only one who has made a complaint. | |
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Posted: 5/3/2007 7:15:09 PM | op- they are human beings,we all have emotions and sometimes these emotions can take over.just because your a cop doesn't mean your automatically a good person but it also doesn't mean they should be pegged as all nasty power trippers either.
i couldn't imagine myself being a cop,the sh1t that you would see in everyday life would be very disheartening and so depressing and then you wondering why some cops snap.
to tolerate the bullsh1t from the punks out there alone takes a lot of control...just be glad i'm not a cop with a gun,major population control would happen,heehee just kidding of course 
i believe if there was no cops to try and protect our asses when needed then people would have a whole new thinking pattern on cops in general.
yes they can be annoying to pull you over for no reason...out of boredom or what have you but in general just be glad they are there when in a time of need. | |
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Posted: 5/3/2007 7:49:41 PM | IN GENERAL: Hi Theadra!! I missed you!! NocturnalPrincess, there are always gonna be people who will revert to their childhood, and say things like, "oink, oink". Unless of course, they just never did achieve being an adult at some level to begin with. Ignore them, as they tend to be self important, and achieve little or nothing in life as a rule.
Mr drg1301 would like to know why police officers ask to look inside his car? Why not??? I mean, maybe he drives a really nice sporty model with all the bells and whistles? Maybe he's driving a vehicle we've never seen before, and would like to know what model it is, and where we can buy one too?? No, I doubt that very much. I'd guess (just a guess of course), that for some unknown reason to us, that Mr drg1301 gave the officer some reason to believe that he was up to some no good thing. . . . something against the law. He says he doesn't do drugs or alcoholic beverages, hummmmm, what could it have been? Maybe the officer knows Mr drg1301 really well, and has found him to possess weapons in his car before. I'd also like to know if Mr drg1301 has a past record that came up on the police officers' screen warning the officer that he has been a bad boy in the past? Well, it's Mr drg1301's word against the officer, and since the officer is not able to respond here, . . . . . . I think I'll go with the officer! lololol As I don't believe a word of what Mr drg1301 has to say.
Ya know what else folks? I've lots of friends and relatives, and not one of them has told me they were stopped, and asked by the officer if he/she could look inside their car. But then, my friends/relatives obey the laws, and don't give police reasons to stop them in the first place. | |
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Posted: 5/3/2007 8:01:30 PM | rt I drive a 89 ford pickup for a work truck and have not had so much as a speeding ticket in the last 20 years. so whether you believe a word that I say or not has little to do with it.
So your at a guess is way off base.
However since you brought it up. If you consider any of the following to be a legally defensible probable cause then my opinion of you has definitely taken a downward turn. It will also explain your answer to theadara, as IMHO defending such action is indefensible.
Maybe the officer knows Mr drg1301 really well, and has found him to possess weapons in his car before. I'd also like to know if Mr drg1301 has a past record that came up on the police officers' screen warning the officer that he has been a bad boy in the past?
A officers knowledge of a person or a past record does not make for probable cause. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2007 2:29:40 AM | If the officer asks, then it is a "consent search" and the person does have a right to say no.
Regarding the vehicle that was towed, I am sorry that you feel that you were mishandled. The officer has no duty or obligation to release the vehicle to anyone else, and you should have probably just paid your darned ticket. I wasn't looking for any glory, just fairness.
I am thinking that while you say you were wearing a halo, you very well might have been an eighteen year-old punk with an attitude.
In out City, if there is an unpaid ticket, it is Contempt of Court Warrant, and we are REQUIRED to arrest. Before towing a car, one inventories the car. This would justify the search of your vehicle.
Should the officer have removed property from the car? No.
Maybe the officer was being a butthead, too. It sounds to me like you two got into a P*SSING match, and he won.
Clearly, everything that you articulated makes you sound like you were being a total jerk...to wind up for psych eval...c'mon, think about it? But you were young and dumb.
Word to the wise: You get more bees with honey than vinegar! Think about it.
Think about my last post. I mentioned that this gentleman was very nice, polite, prepared, and had all of his credentials. If he had had a C of C Warrant, I would have had to arrest him! Still, because he was so nice, I would have asked him if there was someone who could pick up his car so I did not have to tow it.
I am inclined to think that you were not as noble, considerate, and respectful as you describe. Honestly, from your description of the events, I think you were being a total butthead. John Doe people do not get to make phone calls, and you clearly sound as if you were a NO PERSON.
Officers' discretion, absolutely.
However, to answer your question, I warn and send everyone that has a license and insurance for minor infractions, so why wouldn't I warn and send an officer, too?
I guess that is just me looking for some more "glory", eh? | |
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Posted: 5/4/2007 10:04:25 AM | I am thinking that while you say you were wearing a halo, you very well might have been an eighteen year-old punk with an attitude.
Well, I couldn't very well have done anything about the fact that I was 18 at the time. That often is enough to make you a "punk" in the eyes of the law, especially if you drive a late model car.
I don't remember painting myself as having had a halo. I said I exercised my *RIGHT* to remain silent. Surely you are not going to argue that I had such a right?
ALso, you've twice dodged my question about police brutality/impropriety.
This will be the third time (in as many days) that I ask this:
As an officer of the law, have you ever heard of or witnessed a fellow officer bending or breaking the law for *ANY* *REASON* and when you did, did you turn them in for it? I'm not talking about giving someone a warning on a stop-sign violation. I'm talking about things like confiscating (and using) drugs, confiscating (and keeping) property, brutality, intimidation, threats, lying, stealing, murder, etc.
No, of course you didn't, because if you did, you'd have had to turn in every cop on the force at one time or another (and of course, they'd probably have to do the same to you). Turning in all the cops who break the law in the course of their "duties" would NOT make you a popular person around the office, and you might even get passed over for promotion as not being a "team player."
But you'd rather assassinate my character than answer that question, wouldn't you?
I never claimed to be an angel, but that doesn't excuse what the officer did. There was no reason to put a 17 year old girl in harm's way just to flex his muscles.... especially when he was a middle aged OFFICER OF THE LAW and I was just a "punk" who was cuffed in the back of his squad car. Only a very, very petty middle aged person feels the need to "win" a pissing contest with a testosterone filled "punk."
My argument here (in the "why do some people hate cops?" thread) is that officers of the law ought to hold themselves to a HIGHER standard than the average joe on the street. If not, what's the point of them enforcing the laws that they themselves bend?
Also, at 18, I had been on my own for 2 years, and I was working for near minimum wage. Coming up with a few hundred dollars for court costs and fines was not always within my means when I was struggling just to keep a roof over my head and I regularly went days without eating. And before you chime in, we were on our way to a DOLLAR MOVIE. I wasn't out spending big bucks.
One St. Louis area police officer that was a friend of a friend's dad once told my friend that he had "never known an officer who didn't carry a 'throw-away piece'." (A throw-away piece for those who don't know is a gun with no registration marks on it, that an officer can toss on the corpse of a suspect that they just shot in order to make it look like that suspect deserved it. So that way if you shoot someone who's running away from you and they turn out to be a 14 year old, you can claim they aimed a gun at you.)
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Posted: 5/4/2007 11:48:06 AM |
...corruption does exist among SOME officers not ALL but you rather choose to believe ALL cops are model citizens
If you’d read the entire thread BEFORE throwing accusations at me you’d know that I have already addressed this. One would have to be naïve or suffer from low mentality to believe ANY profession is 100% perfect, good. Or perhaps you did read it and not comprehend once again.
it's ironic that you accuse me of lacking comprehension skills when yours are at a first grade level
Let me enlighten you, there are “first graders” whose reading comprehension is at a much higher level than those of an average first grader; and there are those going into high school that can’t yet read! So once again you make no sense.
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Your rather pathetic attempt to cast doubt on my manhood is further telling of your inability to legally further your argument.
I don’t need a legal venue in order to think you’re behavior in your incident was childish, not manly.
No I am respectful of those who have earned my respect. Sigh
Please try to understand there are positions in our society that are to be respected, without having to earn it. For instance, when you first started school, if you were bought up properly, you should have been taught to respect the teacher (he/she does not have to earn it). You respect the position. Same thing applies to Police Officers, they as the guardians of our society, have to be respected. You don’t have the option to respect them only after they’ve earned it. How can you not know this by now?
It really becomes problematic because if you have children your going to pass on your skewed way of thinking to them. Other examples are doctors, nurses when you’re in a hospital. Judges when you're in a court of law.
BTW I received a call today from the police chief with an apology for the actions of his officer.
Why don’t you call him back and apologize for your behavior; let him know that you now realize they have a job to do which may sometimes require making a law-abiding citizen uncomfortable, that from now on you’ll endeavor to be more cooperative with them.
They deal with the vermin, dregs of society; get spat upon, called filthy names by this scum. So wouldn’t it be grand, and make their job easier, if when they stop a law-abiding citizen (you, presumably) you were cooperative instead of having an “attitude”. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2007 12:40:30 PM | JP
To answer your question, I have not ever seen anyone brutalize an arrested person.
You see, because of a man in my Academy Class that disliked me, he spread rumors as if they were fact that I am a snitch.. The reputation was a false one, but it also has served a very good purpose, in hindsight. Nobody has ever dared do anything dirty or questionable around me. I would bet that some dirty stuff probably does go on, but in my eleven years on the job, I have never seen any. Would I turn them in? That is a really tough question, because if one crosses the line, then they find themselves without backup. Ever see the movie Serpico? I have not had to find out because I have never seen that happen!
When I mentioned your attitude problem, I was talking about before you began to exercise your right to remain silent. For the record, the right to remain silent generally applies to making a statement and not simply providing your name.
You wound up in the psych ward, so essentially you presented yourself as a nutcase! It wasn't because of your age, nor the car you drove, but because of the way you acted. DUH!
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Posted: 5/4/2007 2:38:12 PM | johnny prophet - there is the blue code, or whatever its called. Where the cops stick together to protect their own. Its like any club or gang really. And in that way, cops would never write another cop a ticket. Cops even protect their own when another cop is off duty. Lets say for example, both know each other. And a cop on duty pulls over another fellow cop and they recognize each other, the off duty cop will never get a ticket. That would happen in a small town. But even in a large metropolitan city, where there are hundred of cops, in many districts, if the on duty cop doesnt know the off duty cop. The off duty cop with mention he is part of so-and-so district, flash his badge and he will get off on the offence. It really doesnt matter whether he is speeding, ran a red light, or is driving drunk. It only really matters if the off duty cop is drunk, crashed and causes injury/death. Because then the on duty cop doesnt want to lose his badge.
I have seen alot of brutality of arrests on TV. Who really knows if the suspect was wet on acid or drunk or whatever you call it. If the guy isnt throwing punches and is obeying the command, there is no need for a cop to get physical. Every police department in north america is different. Like NYPD, LAPD is different then hickville Montana. OntarioPP, RoyalCMP, VancouverPD, CalgaryPD, TorontoPD is different then every US-PD.
Cops here have a quota they need to achieve in writing tickets. Thats why you will see some mondane ticket on something, and if you tick them off, they go by the book and write you up on everything. I am sure its about average for the industry. I have done some crazy things in my youth, that if the cop wasnt going off duty, I would have gotten pinched for it BIG TIME. Sure everyone hates cops, as teenagers, early adults. But when you mature, you grow to respect them.
I think its just a karma thing, you can get away with sooo much stuff, if you keep doing it, you will get pinched. Rack up a few charges, maybe do a bit. Get out, keep doing it, get deeper in trouble. Get a few breaches, do longer bits. Feel remorseful, say f&%$ it, back to the beginning. Thats how some people live. The disease process. But if they break the cycle, live on a moral level. Give back, what they have taken. Then the karma evens out. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2007 2:47:57 PM | Now since you wasn't there how can you accuse me of having a attitude?
Since when is refusing to allow jack boot mentality to perpetuate itself having a attitude. By allowing that behavior to continue the only thing being accomplished is reinforcing that behavior. History is full of cases where such behavior has escalated because no one had the temerity to say that such behavior is not allowed.
Those who turn a blind eye toward such behavior or by attempting to justify it makes that person as guilty of such behavior as the one who is doing it.
Now as far as a position demanding respect that is fine. AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT ABUSING THAT POSITION. That is when the respect stops. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2007 8:27:55 PM | | WEll i think mr rtd the officer from above clearly makes a statement of his own of why people hate police officers.Let me guess mr officer you were the little fat boy everybody picked on at school or perhaps you were just a punk that let your mouth get you into trouble. To talk like you did to that man in this post makes you one of the many reasons people tend to hate law enforcement. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2007 11:45:21 PM |
Let me enlighten you, there are “first graders” whose reading comprehension is at a much higher level than those of an average first grader; and there are those going into high school that can’t yet read! So once again you make no sense. Ok now you proven you have the common sense of the AVERAGE first grader. Keep them coming lady at least you are good for a laugh | |
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Posted: 5/5/2007 1:04:12 AM | I would bet that some dirty stuff probably does go on....but....I have never seen any. Would I turn them in? That is a really tough question, because if one crosses the line, then they find themselves without backup. Ever see the movie Serpico? I have not had to find out because I have never seen that happen!
Hmm. I don't think I have seen serpico, but I completely understand what you are talking about. That's why I asked the question, and why I have a problem with police. It's not supposed to be YOUR private power fraternity where you guys can dish it out and then do as you please. It's supposed to be about upholding the law and helping people.
If all police officers ever did was uphold righteousness and help people, I'm pretty sure most of the people who are on MY side of this thread would LOVE the police. (Can I get a witness?) Unfortunately, many, many police (the majority I've bumped into, IMHO) really start to relish their power, and use it in the wrong ways. Helping your friends break the law is a wrong use; zealously enforcing the letter of the law to get back at someone who talks back at you is a wrong use; threatening and manhandling someone 20 years your junior for having unpaid tickets and the NERVE to talk sassy is a wrong use.
Personally, I think Police should be something akin to Priests. You should only get in after rigorous training, soul-searching and some major VOWS. You should not be able to marry or have children, and you should live your life as some kind of Warrior Monk (Like David Carradine in Kung Fu! ) . I'd have respect for THOSE cops!
When I mentioned your attitude problem, I was talking about before you began to exercise your right to remain silent. For the record, the right to remain silent generally applies to making a statement and not simply providing your name.
You wound up in the psych ward, so essentially you presented yourself as a nutcase! It wasn't because of your age, nor the car you drove, but because of the way you acted. DUH!
If it had nothing to do with my age and vehicle, why do I rarely get pulled over now? I can assure you, I'm still quite defiant.
I wound up in the emergency room because the only form of protest for the treatment I was receiving that would NOT have gotten me beaten in a dark cell was complete passivity. I have a bit of a tongue on me, and a quick mind to match. I could see the officer's eyes when he threatened to thrash me. He WANTED an excuse. I didn't want to give him one, but I also didn't want to submit, so I remained mute. I'm not claiming to have been an angel, but I didn't swear an oath to "Serve and Protect."
I don't feel comfortable when people try to make me submit to them, so I don't place myself in a position of authority over others, because I believe in the golden rule. Maybe you understand that? | |
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Posted: 5/5/2007 2:03:34 AM | You say that cops should be like Priests? Are you talking about the same Catholic Priests that molest young boys and get away with it?
I think your mouth and your attitude was what impacted your treatment in the first place.
Moreover, you admitted to being a testosterone-filled punk! But you still want to blame the officer for your attitude problem!
I do hold myself to a higher standard. I do give a lot of warnings and breaks.
Nevertheless, if you think I am going to let a mouthy eighteen year-old punk (male or female) Mother-F*ck me and disrespect me, then, even though I have given a LOT of them breaks, too, if they are eighteen they are going to jail for being disorderly! Someone called me to the scene in the first place because they were disturbing.. Just because their parents did not do their jobs to teach their children how to respect others and in particular their elders, doesn't mean I cannot take them to jail.
Do I make a lot of arrests? No. Most of my focus is on helping people and doing reports.
Am I really part of the Fraternity? I think not. I go to work and really do not socialize with cops in my off-hours, because I would rather spend my free time with my dog and working with animal rescue.
You insomuch admitted to being mouthy, STILL, in your last posting.
Clearly, you have a lot of animosity towards the police, but I will assure you that I have never seen anything dirty, and I would bet money that most of the men and women I work with are dedicated, caring, and honest people, and if there are dirty ones, they are truly the minority!
Regarding your question about getting pulled over, is it possible that you and your driving have matured a little bit, and you do not blast your music and now drive more tamely? Just a question, okay?
It sounds as if you have had a lot of negative experiences with police. I am sorry for that. But if you displayed that attitude with your peers on the street, there is a major liklihood that you would have gotten your butt whooped. You know how we can tell who is the loser in a fight? The one who wants an assault report!
Officers need probable cause to pull someone over, so even if it was something petty (at least in a larger jurisdiction) you had to have done something to break the law and draw attention to yourself. Seriously.
Times are very different than they were twenty and thirty years ago. There is no such thing as a throwaway gun anymore, though it may have existed in the old days.
I will agree to disagree with you on pretty much every level, but I wholeheartedly disagree with most everything you have to say. Fair enough?.
I am probably one of the softest, most kind-hearted police officers in my jurisdiction, but if you had been a butthead to me, I would have most certainly towed your car! If you had been reasonable, I would have probably tried to release it to a licensed driver if it were time friendly. However, the results of our actions and behaviors have consequences. If you are disrespecting me, why then should I extend to you any courtesy?
Regarding the young lady you were with, under normal cirumstances, I would have given her a ride home. If she was a little mouthy, I would have called her parents to come pick her up. If she was a lot mouthy, I would have probably let her walk, like the arresting officer did.
Again, you get more bees with honey than vinegar.In sum, all I am saying is that you should also re-evaluate how your actions led to the consequences instead of casting blame. Personal accountability!
I can be an A$$hole, too, but I wait until you have proven to be an A$$hole first, because I always start out nice with strangers. The catch-22 being if a person is found to be on parole and I know I might be in more danger. We all want to go home at the end of our shifts, bottom line.
I am not suggesting that you have to say Sir and Ma'am (but please do not call me Baby), but I am going to suggest that you learn to be polite, and not EYE-F*CK the cop that pulls you over, because that is a bad start. In this case, you may or may not get a ticket, but I guarantee that things will go a lot smoother for you.
Regarding quotas, our Traffic Unit has them I think, but overall there are no quotas, and I am well under average. | |
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Posted: 5/5/2007 11:08:39 AM |
Keep them coming lady at least you are good for a laugh
Yawn…….. Boring……guess you’ve got the last word.
After all it’s not really possible to have dialogue with someone who’s never had an original thought; your entire repertoire is base, inane, elementary. | |
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Posted: 5/5/2007 12:31:55 PM | Moreover, you admitted to being a testosterone-filled punk! But you still want to blame the officer for your attitude problem!
I was driving a 1979 Ford Thunderbird. It was brown. I didn't have a stereo (AT ALL) to thump. I had a burned out taillight... and there were at least 4 lights on the back of my car still operative. I was driving 40 miles an hour on a 40 mile an hour road at around 8pm. My girlfriend sat in the car and CRIED. My (pudgy, nerdy) friend sat in the backseat of my car and kept his mouth shut.
I said nothing to the officer. I handed him my license and insurance. And then he found I had a traffic warrant, and asked me to get out of the car. He pushed me up on the trunk of my car (forcefully) which started my gf crying (quietly). He cuffed me and then yanked my arms up behind my back and threw me into the back of his car, banging my head in the process. I sprawled onto the backseat.
He then took my keys from the ignition, told the other two that they may as well "give up the drugs now" and tore my car apart. At this point I had done nothing but answer his questions. "No, I don't have drugs. Go ahead and look if you want." "No, I haven't been drinking officer, I don't drink."
I have admitted to being an 18 year old. I have admitted to having an attitude problem. My eyes were probably NOT very submissive looking. But I didn't call him a mother****er. I didn't scream at him. I didn't tell him he was a pig. He treated me like a piece of trash from the moment he pulled me over. I admitted to the facts because I am NOT trying to paint myself as a helpless victim. But that's not the point!!!! The point is that Police are supposed to serve and protect, and NOT intimidate and threaten and chuckle at other people's discomfort.
What is it that I say that threatens you so much that you have to keep resorting to character attacks?
There was no stereo in my 1979 car. (This was around 1994-95) No Drugs. No booze. Nothing but some CDs (tossed in the street) and some of my clothing (tossed in the street.) My GF never smarted off to the cop, nor did my friend. They asked him for a ride to a gas station so that they could call for a ride. He declined.
Why is it so hard for you to believe that a policeman somewhere in america could do the wrong thing? We hear about it all the time. Want me to start posting links to newspaper articles? | |
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Posted: 5/5/2007 4:22:48 PM |
Yawn…….. Boring……guess you’ve got the last word.
After all it’s not really possible to have dialogue with someone who’s never had an original thought; your entire repertoire is base, inane, elementary. In my very elementary state of mind..I'll pretend you did'nt say that so i can STILL have the last word
I have admitted to being an 18 year old. I have admitted to having an attitude problem. My eyes were probably NOT very submissive looking. But I didn't call him a mother****er. I didn't scream at him. I didn't tell him he was a pig. He treated me like a piece of trash from the moment he pulled me over. I admitted to the facts because I am NOT trying to paint myself as a helpless victim. But that's not the point!!!! The point is that Police are supposed to serve and protect, and NOT intimidate and threaten and chuckle at other people's discomfort. I lived in the inner city as a youth..as a 13 year old sitting on porch in front of my house with 5 of my friends just laughing and telling jokes a squad car pulled up and told us to break it up because we were being loud. My initial reaction was to say no we will not break it up because we were'nt make any more noise then adults across the street throwing a party in their backyard and it was only 6:30 at night. Needless to say the cop took offense to what i said and punched me in the stomach. Imagine that a full grown man punching a 13 year old in the stomach? I may have come across as being a little**** but that was no reason for the officer to hit me. And this was'nt an isolated incident plenty of my friends have been beaten up or abused at the hands of the police in my youth. My point is it does'nt take much for some officers to lose control of their emotions and haul off and hit someone for no reason. How can any officer in this thread justify that? | |
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Posted: 5/5/2007 4:26:54 PM |
How can any officer in this thread justify that?
Well most of them have been trying unsucessfully to justify everything else.
When they can't justify something then they attack the poster, fitting themselves right into the stereotype that most are trying to argue against. | |
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Posted: 5/5/2007 5:01:44 PM | JP,
I am glad you explained the specifics of your incident. I thought I did extend an olive branch, so I feel that it is you that is attacking MY character.
I do not brutalize people, and I do my very best to help people, including calling them back on my own time if I find resources for them, because a lot of working people do not want phone calls at 2 A.M.
As I also said, no one has ever done anything in my presence.
I also would have given your girfriend a ride to at least the gas station!
One night a guy was being a knucklehead and got into a fight in the parking lot of a bar when they closed. I gave him a choice of Disorderly Conduct Intoxicated or Public Intox, and got permission from a boss to drive him home instead of taking him to jail, after I broke up the fight that he started.
I pulled over a kid who made a minor traffic offense. He had no license, and driving is a privilege and not a right. He was a decent young man though, so I wrote him for the light and not having a license, but I did not tow the car, and I let him park it until someone could pick it up. We were across from a 24-hour store, so I did not leave him and his friend stranded.
I also pulled over a former high school classmate that was obviously on his way to buy drugs as he was en route to the projects, completely bypassed the freeway, had also been drinking and it was 3 A.M. He had "work driving privileges" and supposedly just got off work, and he works for a moving company. Uh-huh.. Now, ALL DUI coonvictees are required to wear yellow plates on their cars with red lettering, but it was not so at that time.
I wrote him for no license and no insurance, and for running the light, and I called a licensed driver to come and pick up his car for him. That is pretty much what I would do for anyone that is decent with me, and I think that is pretty fair.
Before becoming a police officer, I had plenty of tickets, mostly speeding. After handling too many accidents, my driving is much more defensive and mature, because I really do not have a lot of faith in the other drivers on the roadways.
Perhaps I am the exception rather than the rule. I truly do not know. But I do not think I attacked your character. Rather, I asked you to evaluate your attitude. I wasn't there. I asked a question. You certainly attacked my character, though, and I do not think I did anything to deserve a personal attack. I have been through way too much SH*T on the inside as a suspected snitch and the outside as a hated cop (except for when it is convenient for people to try and manipulate the System) to sit quietly at personal attacks here. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/5/2007 5:23:51 PM | | I come from a family of police officers... the first in seven generations not to become one. I only have one thing to say to all those that hate cops. Stay away from them. Never call for their help. And definitely do not endanger their lives while they are busy trying to save yours. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/5/2007 7:59:47 PM | | If you can't understand the reason so many have lost their respect for that once fine profession then I doubt if you will ever understand. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/5/2007 8:41:41 PM | What I understand is that sure there are some bad cops. But if I take your way of thinking then I should hate all women since one once broke my heart. I should hate all blacks since I once got into a fight with one... See how stupid both of those sound? Well at least they do to me and so does hating police just because of a few.
You are the one that has no idea of what being a policeman is like. Going to work everyday not knowing if it will be your last. Saying goodbye to your wife and kids might be for the very last time... then you get to work and you're treated like scum by the very people that you are trying to protect. Every time you walk up to a car or answer a call could be the last thing you ever do. Your nerves are on edge the entire shift and lo and behold, every person now thinks they can refuse to do what they're told to insure your safety. And you're the bad guy just because you're not willing to entrust your life to some person that may have a gun in their belt. Go figure...
I'm thankful that they would never do it but the same people who hate cops will be the first to cry foul if all the police said they had have enough and walked away... You think the country is bad now? Let the criminals get even more control then they already have...
But you're right about one thing... you'll never convince me. And I have enough sense not to push my luck with someone carrying a gun no matter if its a crook or a cop just because I have the right to speak my mind. Peace. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 5/5/2007 8:47:58 PM |
You are the one that has no idea of what being a policeman is like. Going to work everyday not knowing if it will be your last.
Sorry that isn't going to fly as you know absolutely nothing of my background. While I might not have been a LEO I have indeed faced that kind of daily lifestyle. You try babysitting some of the people around this country or stand guard over special weapons.
But this will be one of those cases where we will just have to agree to disagree.
Happy Fishing. | |
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