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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/17/2007 2:08:19 PM | Corruption, power and money, can be found pretty much under any stone. I agree that persons in positions of authority should be held to a higher standard.
I hold myself to a higher standard, truly. Nobody, if they are dirty, does dirty deeds in front of me. The worst I can ever be accused of, besides my pink handcuffs and my non-regulation socks, is that I treat people like I would want to be treated.
Yes, I have enforcement power and arrest authority, but I do not abuse it.
For Byrd,
I meant no disrespect by breaking down the branches of government that I learned in the 7th Grade. There is a system of checks and balances, in theory, but when corruption rules them all, the System then fails us all. This is Junior High School material though!
There is an additional checks and balances, when the federal government investigates allegations of local improprieties. The Locals hate the Feds because they think they are out to hang them, but if one is not doing anything wrong then there is nothing to worry about, eh?
I am on the side of "doing the right thing, just because it is the right thing to do!" This is not rocket science. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/17/2007 8:20:11 PM | This may not be rocket science you just kinda hope people will do the right thing but when even the cops bust your bubble there's no hope...And there is no hope still why must you talk down to people? and you wonder why your not liked..... | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/18/2007 2:03:55 AM | First of all, anything you say can, and WILL be used against you.. Second of all, I sat in a courtroom and watched one perjure himself to convict me on a seatbelt ticket.. I was in a vehicle with my mother, who also testified.. and unfortunately, in that courtroom, the judge had no ears for either my or my mother's truthful testimony.. the officer's word, was taken over mine.. and I am all for honest truthful justice.. but he lied point blank on the stand.. and I got stung anyways.
And of course there's the other reason as well. My experience with police thus far didn't amount to much trust.. but they always approach you at first with a very very authoritative strict mentality.. part of that reason is the first thing that a police officer is trained to do mentally, is to force you into a submissive position.. both mentally and/or physically. This is for their own protection actually.. most find it intimidating, men can't stand being in that kind of a position.. but giving someone the mental handcuffs gives them a big advantage in getting done the job they must do.. part of their risk management is to protect themselves against belligerent people.. law breakers who GOT busted in that seat. Their apparent harsh arrogance, is a front they use to mentally put them in an immediate position of authority.. and it minimizes risk to themselves. Behind that mask, there IS actually a human being.. but putting someone at ease when they pull them over, is not in their best interest.. it's actually dangerous to appear anything but bigger and tougher and more arrogant and authoritative. They immediately assert their position as 'boss' so they have complete control over a situation. That's a tactic, not the person.
They have very little recourse if someone pulls a gun on them.. they're on the front-lines of everybody's crap.. I don't know how many other people exposed to the dregs of society would realize the mental workout these guys get on one shift.. everything from dead people to drugs, to drunks.. I can certainly understand why they must be almost emotionless.. and why they seem to have no 'emotions' when it comes to doing their job.. because quite frankly, the job sucks! Either they are doing their job, or they didn't do their jobs.. either way, they're always blamed for something.. damned if they do, damned if they don't.. their job is never done.. and who else would work for eight hours a day, dealing with pissed off people?
That being said.. I don't hate all cops.. just traffic cops.. lol | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/18/2007 4:01:15 AM | Byrd,
I do not apologize for the way I expressed myself. This is Junior High School or under material, the three branches of government and how they interact. I have no intention of sparring with you over semantics. And, yes, I did pay attention in school!
Music Man, damned either way pretty well sums it up! Regarding seat belts, I think we all have a God-given right to die, so if you are a grown-up and choose not to wear your seat belt, and you crash through the windshield, well then, that would be freedom of choice. The laws have expanded now to where one can be pulled over for the mere offense of not wearing a seat belt, whereas previously, seat belt could only be an added on offense.
Recently, there were articles about laws abolishing on-line gambling. Apparently, we require government regulations to rescue us from ourselves? How did previous generations survive, without Big Brother's hand in everything?
I have seen some things that make me doubt my own sanity! I am not out to injure anyone!
But I do strive to educate, based upon my experiences as a law enforcement officer.
If I roll into a gas station and your car is running, and the gas station is right next to a freeway, and I pull the keys out of the ignition and bring them into the store for you, of course you are going to be ticked off. Yet, how many GTMV reports have I made for people that watched their cars drive off? Iif I had the time to grab your keys, I had the time to jump in your car and drive off! Besides, this is a ticketable offense! Do I ticket people ? Hardly ever!
When people say they are watching their car from the store, I ask what they are going to do, watch it drive away and wave goodbye?
I am one of the few cops I know that regularly takes my lunch break at a sit down restaurant. Many cops are paranoid that people will spit in their food, and the uniform is rather like a neon sign. I have met many friends in my neighborhood in this manner. Probably 50% of the time I am on my lunch break, I am interrupted for police business, but it goes with the territory.
Perhaps I am the exception rather than the rule? However, I really resent Byrd accusing me of talking down to people! I guess I just expect to interact with adults that have a thirteen year-old education or above? Stoopid me! | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/18/2007 4:05:41 AM | | ****For the record, I think it has been twenty years since I had a donut! They are fattening artery-cloggers! Buckeye Donuts in Columbus, OH does make the BEST Apple Fritters ever, though. I worked there when I was 19.**** | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/18/2007 4:14:44 AM | I was wearing my damned seat belt.. I removed it to rotate my body so I could back my truck up into a parallel parking spot.. I had a torn rotator cuff on my shoulder at the time, and I couldn't just throw it over the seat and look over my shoulder.. documented injury.. unfortunately, both my mother and I both knew WHY I had removed my seatbelt, AND when.. that's why I went to court to tell my side of the story in the first place.. however the officer indicated I hadn't been wearing it for five or six blocks previous.. he was mistaken, or he perjured himself. Either way.. I'll leave that one up to God ;)
There ya go.. "choose not to wear your seat belt"
Same thing the damn judge said. I have been wearing my seat belt in a vehicle faithfully since the day I started driving.. it saved my life.. when I was thirteen years old.
Sorry.. off topic.. but HAS to be said! and ON topic, again,
I still think people take the entire 'talk down' issue like they're trying to do it to be arrogant. Far from it. It's a police officer's first line of defense to exert an almost exorbitant overwhelming attitude on a person upon first contact, to intimidate them into a psychological submission.. so they listen, do as directed, and follow instructions. Anything less can get a good police officer killed. They have to immediately exert their authority, and it is the first weapon a GOOD officer brandishes, to protect themselves. I have absolutely no qualms about why they do it, I see no problem with it.. and if I had to walk up to a stranger's car in the dark, I'd be pretty authoritative too. God only knows how they manage a full shift doing it, even when coming from a call where someone became unruly.. I can only imagine the courage they buck up sometimes to do it.. don't think for a second after you stop your vehicle and they walk up with a flashlight, that they didn't take a deep breath inside before they left the safety of their own squad car.
I respect the police.. I dislike those who lie, however.. and that is my bone to pick with this guy.. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/18/2007 7:17:42 AM | Prime example of cops throwing their weight around: On the weekend my brother was on his way up north to see me from the city. He just pulled his Grand National (fast car) out of storage for the summer (It's now a classic). He has all his registration, insurance etc with him because he's used to being pulled over. Cop pulls him over, for no reason other than to look at his engine. Cop didn't even ask for his paperwork. My question: who gives them the right to do this when maybe my brother was on a schedule. He didn't violate any driving rules? What gives them this right???
vrooom - vroom!! | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/18/2007 9:41:03 AM | Music Man and CottageCountry,
I am sorry that you have encountered Buttheads. Just as I would give you a fair chance, I hope you would reciporcate.
It is easier to go from nasty to nice than to reverse momentum, and this is a learned survival skill. Most people do not have jobs where going home alive as a result of the work is not a guarantee. However, we took the job!
I don't really mind the people that say they will never call the police, ever, so much as the ones that hate us and call us whenever is convenient. For instance, the loser of the fight always wants a 'salt (assault) report. Go figure?
I work in a big small town, and this is my reality. Do you have any idea how many calls we get a night for parents that cannot control their teenagers, and these are the ones that are tearing things up, instead of being habitual runaways?
We have our regular customers, too. These are mostly Domestics and Missing Juveniles. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/18/2007 11:11:31 AM | | Donut is just a figure of speech some of the things they require to pull their shifts are really not woreth mentioning it's greatly disappointing though, I'm not sorry either but will continue to defend people I feel who are railroaded and abused by others, I don't hate cops there's alot of good ones...They are not all abusive toward the mentally ill nor are they all in fear of mentally ill either.. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/19/2007 2:25:03 AM | Knightless,
I do care, and my blood pressure gets higher every year. Whenever I sit down and write a thorough police report, I know I have done my job and done it well, but too often, I watch the System drop the ball. Sometimes, I wonder what does it matter how well I do my individual job? I still keep trying my best. Probably one of the biggest compliments I received recently was when I made a follow-up call for something, and I was asked if I was a rookie. With over eleven years under my belt, I still manage to care and to try to make a difference.
Knightless, I am horrified at what you have suffered, and thank you for the private email. I wish I had a magic wand filled with Fairy Dust and I could just sprinkle it everywhere and make the World a better place.
Instead, I have bruises, and the reality of shoot or be shot every day that I put on the uniform and climb into the car. I do the best that I can, and I really do maintain a reserve of resources and referrals, because I have accepted the responsibility that goes along with raising my hand and taking the "Oath of Office." I actually call people back on my own time, if I find information that can help them.
I do not understand it, but people carry their automobile titles in thier cars and their social security cards in their purses. People do not have bank accounts and do not get receipts for large payments in cash. Please help me to help you! Put your important documents in a secure place, and keep receipts especially for cash payments!. Handle your business legally and properly, please.
I cannot tell you how many times people have bought/sold a car where the owner retains the title while receiving cash payments. The car gets involved in a hit-skip, and guess who is liable? Um, not the person driving. The person to whom the title and plates list to is ultimately accountable and it boggles my mind how people do business in this fashion. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/19/2007 10:26:23 AM | ^^^^
I don't think most or the majority of people 'hate' cops as much as they hate politicians, lawyers, repo-men, or used car salesmen.
so don't feel too bad, you're not on the 'top' of the 'most hated professions' list.. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/19/2007 11:21:23 AM | Dude...go to prison for three years. Get out. And the very next day have to turn yourself in on a 5 year old warrant that should have already been taken care of before they realeased you and have the c*ck sucking **stard that was the detective on the case that got you 3 years laughing about it...and THEN let me know.
AS A WHOLE...I respect them. And I admire that they are willing to put their lives on the line to protect us little people. So, I don't hate them all. Just a few in particular. ;)
~Welder's Girl~ | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/19/2007 3:10:21 PM | | NocturnalPrincess: Thank you...I wasn't sure if you had recieved the e-mail I sent with some of the articles written. Yes...it's been horrible nightmare from day 1!! I would like to know if you were able to pull up any of the articles ok? I'm sure you do a good job, I'm not there to know, or to judge anyone that I have no knowledge of how they work. I just see how the cops are here, and some of the surrounding towns..and those I can say are nothing but garbage. ( Not all..but alot of them are) But the way my husband's death is treated just makes me madder than a wet hen. And when I see that no one cares, that's in a position to do something but chooses not too...just makes my blood boil. I know you can't....I am referring to the ones here in this vicinity..and State officials...it really makes me see the way our system really works, and it's not right..nor fair to the majority. But it sure makes people very leary of cops. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/19/2007 3:16:14 PM | Warrants never go away, for the record.
When we get a Dead Body/Probable Natural, which used to be a bit gruesome, but is now more of the ordinary, I try to help people through the ordeal. If a person has been to see a doctor within the last thirty days, then invovling the Coroner is not necessary, if the doctor will sign off, which is so much easier on the family.
The last thing we do with a dead body report is to check for warrants, because abated by death is the only way to erase them.
My colleagues often criticize that I take too long with people, when I could be busy writing tickets or eating donuts. If I come to your home, and I can make arrangements for a dead body to be removed, and I can help you with the shock end of funeral arrangement by making phone calls, while I write a report that needs to be written anyway, I always offer to stay or go, and it is at their discretion. One of my hardest was for a very well-cared for elderly mother that couldn't go to the doctor, and was on many meds. Because of the thirty day-rule, this woman wept that the coroner's had to pick up jher Mom.
Often, my job sucks! | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/22/2007 10:46:55 PM | For "welderwantedthis": I don't know how they opporate down in the Carolinas, but I can assure you that if you do any time here in Ohio, you will not get released until all warrants on your name are cleared. I have to wonder how the law enforcement agency in your area would feel if you had a warrant for murder, and they released you before clearing that. Glad you don't hold your situation against all officers.
There are many occasions where there are warrants on people, and even though an officer runs a check on a person, warrants on that person may or may not appear, depending on the state the warrant was from. I remember when I worked nights, and I ran two guys I arrested for burglary warrants from Texas, and I asked my dispatchers to run a complete check on them during night shift at around 1am. It wasn't until something like 11am that next morning that Virginia came back with warrants on the same two guys, and we had to wait a certain amount of time (because people weren't at work yet) to find out what the warrants were for, and who wanted them.
Sometimes, at times like that, the job can be rather frustrating to say the least. So, because Virginia was late getting back to us, I had even more reports to write and other work to do before I could leave the office, because we had a rule that all paperwork had to be completed before leaving to go home. I certainly don't miss that! | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/22/2007 11:14:12 PM | | Hell what are you guys complaining about try to be a trucker. Everyone out there seems to know how to do your job better then you shippers receivers and the public. Not to mention the ever so know it all cops that have never climbed behind the wheel of a 125 foot rig but think they know more about it then us men and women driving them. The real problem lies behind the change in times just like truckers were once looked up at so were the police officers anymore no one has respect for anybody or anything and its ashame that used to be what our country was about respect and honor. just my two cents and i still respect our police force... mudflap2 | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/23/2007 5:48:39 PM | I wouldn't go so far as to use the word hate, but I certainly fear cops. I've read way too many stories like this one:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,284075,00.html
of police abuse. I'd had three friends who have either been beaten by cops or had a cop extort money from them. In my home state there's one entire county that's gotten so bad the feds had to get involved after a man was beaten to death in a county jail and several other cases of abuse.
Of course not all cops are bad, but when you read (see link) about the torture of Eugene Siler (five cops tortured him for more than an hour. His wife figured something bad was going to happen, so she turned on a tape recorder) you know that a lot of abuse is taking place. When five cops get to the point that they have no problem putting electrodes on a man's testicles and shocking him, it just can't be some isolated incident. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/23/2007 6:26:19 PM | Alpina,
I have never seen any brutality in front of me, while I do not discount that it exists.
If they are not cuffed and there is punching and kicking, but if they are cuffed and pepper-sprayed, then I agree that the police involved misconducted. I am truly glad that I do not have all of that testosterone in my system!
I understand the gray area when a handcuffed person is still refusing to get into the car, and still kicking and fighting, because I have seen it, but at some point you have to draw the line of advantage and human decency, when the prisoner is cuffed. JMHO. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/23/2007 6:27:43 PM | | Well whats this about an Ohio police officer that has a profile on Plentyoffish arrested fot the murder of Jesse Davis and her unborn child??? And why do police officers hate people? | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/23/2007 6:40:41 PM | Byrd,
Innocent until proven guitly! My instincts tell me that the suspect is a known person, and the victim will not be found alive, if at all. Whether a cop or not, I only hope the perpetrator is caught and brought to accountability.
Please do not smear this case on the basis of his occupation!
We have a case of a woman that had her husband killed, allegedly, too. Psychos are everywhere! Perhaps the real issue should be how can the police and military forces better screen their applicants, rather than to point out the minority that are dangerous cannons.
I am on the fence here, because I see both sides. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/23/2007 6:48:53 PM | | Just like a cop to justify another cops actions and make the victim look bad this victim being a pregant woman innocent until proven guilty huh? Like the mentally ill woman stunned to death, the protesters shot with rubber bullets in Los Angeles...You guys are full of it you ought to be ashamed of yourself. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/23/2007 7:04:13 PM | Noctural, in the Harrison County case (http://www.theagitator.com/archives/026885.php -- and Warning!! This link has photo from hospital of the dead man) one of the police cooperated with the feds and plead guilty to violating his rights and I think got 11 years. She was a woman.
That guy was handcuffed. From the article:
Then, with one hand, Teel picked Jessie up, carried him like a suitcase, and dropped him to the floor, face first. He then picked him up again, and dropped him face first to the concrete floor again. The booking guards then rolled Jessie up into an elastic fabric (something like a straight jacket) and put him into the restraining chair. While in the chair, Teel choked and beat Jessie over a period of time. Eventually, when Jessie was unable to raise his head, he poured water on his face and said, "oops, don't drown."
Even worse, the local government stonewalled forever on this until finally the federal government got involved. Officer Teel should have been tried under Mississippi law for murder, not federal law for civil rights violations. | |
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