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 GvMeUrAttn
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I love cops.

Mmmmmmmmmmm a man in uniform...........
 moonstarr
Joined: 4/3/2005
Msg: 52
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 4:11:40 PM
*Takes deep breath and wonders whether she should jump in on this forum or not*

I myself am generally not fond of police officers. Yes, every once in a while there is such a thing as a truly good cop out there, but personally I think they are very rare. Exactly two come to mind as good members of the police force. One is a cop that stopped my husband and I driving back from heck only knows where. He claimed my husband was speeding. I went into a spastic attack because at that particular point in time a ticket meant we had no way of buying formula for our baby - my husband had not gotten paid from his new job yet.

The cop started to write out a ticket anyway, and then decided to let it go with a warning. He said he was a parent himself, and as long as we promised to spend the money on formula & slowed down he would tear up the ticket.

If we were speeding that day, it was likely the speedometer was broken again. Our car is quite old but we've had the speedometer worked on a few times already. Nearest I can figure, that is what happened. In any case the point is, the cop I just mentioned did not choose to use the power he had. He COULD have issued the ticket and said "too bad" about what we could and could not afford. But he chose to understand our situation.

Another nice police officer I know was a friend of our family from as far back as I can remember, and he and his wife ended up buying my parents house when we moved that year. He's generally an all-around nice guy.

Those two are the rare cases. Now for the reason I am not so fond of most police:

An older lady hit me, and so I pushed her away from me. She hit again... so I shoved her away again and left house to call the police, thinking they would take care of the situation. Because the other lady had a friend of hers with her that was willing to lie about what happened, we both got brought in and I was forced to drop charges because if I didn't, they were going to keep us both. I found that highly unacceptable and felt forced into dropping charges. I then told the police the reason the lady had started the fight in the first place was she was high on some hard drugs (which they could see for themselves, it was obvious) but I was told they didn't see her take them, so they couldn't do anything about that. So I had to let the whole thing go, and I didn't feel I should have had to.

Another reason is once I was living with my best friend and my then-boyfriend. My then-boyfriend was afraid of my friend apparently (I did not know this ahead of time) and so he (without me knowing) suddenly decided to move out. He came in and brought the cops with him. Upon finding out my friend was not home at the time, and there was no threat, the police should have left my home, but they didn't. When I went into another room in my home to ask my then-boyfriend what was going on, and why he was leaving, they stopped me! In my OWN HOUSE! Yes, I did flail my arms a little bit, but that was because I was scared and didn't understand what was going on. I was crying pretty hard. The cop asked if I had any weapons in my pockets... I told him no. I also stated I had no intention of harming anyone, but could not calm down and "stop crying" because I was hurt and needed closure and understanding of what was going on.

The police said that because I was flailing my arms I was considered unstable (even with nothing in them) and dangerous ... and one proceeded to pin me down on my staircase to the point that I could not even breathe.

I did not appreciate them doing that to me, and coming in my house and being so rude like that. So, I pursued a lawsuit against that particular police department for pinning me down when I had no weapons and was only crying. (And no, I didn't have a history of violence either, so they couldn't say that.)

It's funny, they left that day I and was left to sort out my feelings. I did keep on with the lawsuit though, for doing what they did. And only AFTER I opened that, did they suddenly show up on my doorstep to arrest me .... weeks later - !!!

I definitely see that was a retaliation move on their part. ... I mean, AFTER I sue them they do that? If I was doing something so wrong, why not take care of it the day it happened? Unfortunately at the time all this was going on, I needed to go out of state with some family to scatter my dad's ashes. So in the end, I dropped my suit and they dropped their "case" against me. My attorney told me that had I wished to keep going with it to the end, I could have won a settlement.

Another much more mild example of my distate for police - my husband and I were heading on a trip to Wichita, and going the speed limit. Another car sped past us. It was not an officer on duty, he was in his own car going down the road... so shouldn't he have to obey the traffic laws to keep everybody safe too? He didn't... he was going CONSIDERABLY over the limit. (That officer was related to my husband so we knew him, otherwise we would not have known he was a cop.) Anyway, he just abused his privilege of being an officer like so many do....

That is in summation why I don't like most police - they abuse their power and many act like they don't have to obey the laws THEMSELVES! I'm sorry, but if they believe in the laws enough to uphold them in front of society, why can't they be followed by all?

I do feel there is an easy remedy for the situation, however. Legally, the police are bound by the same laws as the general public... if only the courts would enforce that system of checks and balances to keep everyone equal, then I think more folks would join the police force to genuinely help people and keep folks safe. And I think that would make all the difference in the world.
 2findU
Joined: 11/19/2005
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Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 4:35:34 PM
Criminals hate Cops. Everyone else just doesn't want to get a speeding ticket or some other moving violation.
 Mr. Ivan
Joined: 3/13/2006
Msg: 54
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 4:48:15 PM
Police officers? You mean COPS. They can be real arrogant sometimes. I see them. They walk around smug and think that everyone must stop when they walk (because people do fear COPS in America.)

The COP mentality is that they "protect you" even when they want to hurt you. Their excuse for everything is "to protect us". For example, if they want to douse us with mace, it was done to "protect us".

And just look at how they are portrayed on the TV show COPS. They always win. They never make mistakes. They are always right. And they are just doing their job. COPS is pretty much propoganda to create a false myth about COPS.

There is always the excuse that there are a "few bad apples" that make COPS look bad. But the reason there are bad, rotten and moldy apples, is because the COP system is outdated and flawed, much like capitalism. Reform is necessary. A system that doesn't seem to make you look inferior, fearful and/or humiliated is needed.



And this goes for immigration officers too!
 Nowhere Man
Joined: 10/18/2006
Msg: 55
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 4:52:41 PM
I have never had a negative experience with the police, and I have nothing but the utmost respect for them. Granted, I've never lived in a really big city where there is supposed to be quite a bit of police corruption. Generally, I have found the police to be fair and polite. Sure, I've had speeding tickets - that's because I was speeding, so what's the point in arguing. The police have a tough job to do, and drunken idiots driving and roaming the streets don't help.

Here's my "good cop" story:


- When I was a kid, our car broke down in on a highway in Savanah, Georgia while we were on our way to Florida. The police radioed a tow truck (this was in the days before cell phones) and they even managed to find us a hotel room, which was no mean feat considering that it was St. Patrick's day. They drove us to our hotel and the next day one of the officers returned (off duty) to make sure the car was being repaired and to see if we needed a ride anywhere. All this and we weren't even planning to stay in Georgia. Heck, we weren't even U.S. citizens!
 ny_lady_13601
Joined: 10/25/2006
Msg: 56
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 6:35:34 PM
The people who hate cops are the ones that have usually been on the receiving end of doing wrong and got caught at it. Like any job, you have the good and the bad. Some criminals deserve an extra wack or two when they're out of hand.. And yes some cops can be egotistical, most men are anyway and their job can add to it. I know, I dated one for a couple of months. Him being a cop didn't stop him from lying to me and leading me on fresh out my divorce when I needed someone to trust the most. They could also be a lot more lenient on first time minor offenses, like a speeding ticket for the first time and on a clean license at that. I wasn't so lucky there. But do I hate cops, no.
 AAARRG!
Joined: 8/21/2006
Msg: 57
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 7:15:50 PM

The people who hate cops are the ones that have usually been on the receiving end of doing wrong and got caught at it.


That is exactly the same BS that cops make themselves believe. I guess there is no possible way that a law abiding citizen could EVER dislike cops. Maybe it's because some people are just flat out sick and tired of the crap that cops get away with.


I know, I dated one for a couple of months. Him being a cop didn't stop him from lying to me and leading me on fresh out my divorce when I needed someone to trust the most.


Gee, I never saw that one comming. He's a COP, of course he's going to lie, they can't help it. Thats what they do, day in and day out. Of course it will spill into their personal lives after years of doing it. There is no such thing as an "Honest Cop". Just a cop that doesn't lie quite as much. Honest cop? Thats the oxymoron of the century.

I admit I am really observant about other peoples driving habits, I have hundreds of thousands of driving miles with no tickets, so I'm not being bitter (I would even say that I probably have more driving experience than the vast majority of cops). I watch the way people drive every day. I would say that at least 50% of the people on the road should not even have a license because of total lack of being able to follow "the rules of the road". The speeding, not using turn signals, cutting people off, unable to use a on ramp/off ramp properly, turning right on red and not stopping (the same for stop signs). etc. etc. The worst offenders of these basic driving skills? COPS!!!

I know you all are thinking, it's just a small infraction. But it actually goes much deaper than that. When a person is immune to laws (no matter how small) they keep getting more bold as time goes on. The result is, the cops we have today. A bunch af self proclaimed "Protectors" who for the most part don't even have a formal education. Just loads of "cop schools". They just project a total lack of comitment to laws for themselves, unless it's someone else who broke the law.

Cops need to realize that they are out there for the sole purpose of collecting revenue. It's their job. They chose it, they need to get over the fact that people can't stand them.

They're the biggest bunch of hippocrites there is.
 Byrd
Joined: 7/19/2004
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Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/14/2006 7:57:34 PM
You know what really gets me just down right urks me when they talk of the bad and the good they always forget the ugly..Hey it's lonley at the top. I know I look like a crook no one runs in slower motion than I when a cop is chasing me...I had my days when I was young and pissed off at the world but I never got a felony or a bad mark on my drivers licence in 26 years..Once I realized that I wasn't good at being bad, the only time I really was bad was when I drank..And that's because I hated myself or something wasn't right in my life..It's so good not to have to look over my shoulder I know they are there..They are all there watching...waiting.....I heard someone fire a shot less then 10 seconds ago and it just got broadcast over my scanner 10 seconds....Pretty good.
 Breaker_one_nine
Joined: 4/26/2006
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Posted: 11/14/2006 9:25:33 PM
A real issue I have is if someone runs over my dog (hit and run) I report it - the reaction is big deal what do you want us to do?
Same scenerio, but a police dog- look out, there is no rest till the person responsible is caught. Not only that but they actually have a funeral for it, cops come from all over for the event and cry. Give me a break- where were they all for my dogs funeral?
Reality check here- I don't have funerals for my pets that die or are killed, that is something that is done for humans.
 magicallaroundme
Joined: 10/12/2006
Msg: 60
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/15/2006 12:30:42 AM
I have a real problem with Cops too. It is not so much the actual person themselves that bothers me, but the whole mythology that they buy into. Police departments are getting more militarized. In some ways it is because they feel powerless rather than too powerful. When the entire department gets its ass chewed out by the Chief over some pet peeve or some get stuck on some "Mayor's Special Taskforce", they don't think they have the latitude to be reasonable about things. I would like to think that there are still some Cops who think to themselves, "I didn't see that" or "No harm no foul". Maybe some old timers can still do that. Unfortunately, the police, nowadays recruit and hire the little Hitler types. Once upon a time they were the LAST people the police wanted. Now there are not enough to go around.

It is clear that in this political climate, the police are not public servants anymore. SCOTUS has held that the police are not required to protect you, that they are authorized to commit fraud, that they do not have to respect your civil rights so long as they act in "good faith", whatever that is supposed to mean. Since all of these abuses are considered A-OK, there is tremedous political pressure to take advantage. Nowadays, the politicians and the public care less about fighting crime than a big body count. The police are compelled to go along, want to or not.

Yes there is an US/Them thing going on. Unfortunately, there are too many Cops and too many laws and too many ass bites who scream for someone elses blood.
 darkangelofdeath™
Joined: 7/14/2006
Msg: 61
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/15/2006 4:52:53 AM
The people who hate cops are the ones that have usually been on the receiving end of doing wrong and got caught at it.


Some cops are so crooked that they would probaby have a record longer than the person they were arresting if the truth was known.
 diamondbrooke
Joined: 11/9/2006
Msg: 62
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/15/2006 8:38:36 AM
lmfao a few bad cops does not make them all evil. You all would like to think that so you can continue on hating the people that protect us.
 BLACKACES
Joined: 4/19/2006
Msg: 63
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/15/2006 8:47:37 AM
^^^ then explain to all of us what happened in new orleans?

is that what we all have to look forward to?

the lid blew off the pot! and the message to me was loud and clear.

 diamondbrooke
Joined: 11/9/2006
Msg: 64
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/15/2006 9:18:30 AM
Yeah because they are all alike, every last one of them. None of them are differant.


yeah sure.
 I love hockey
Joined: 8/30/2006
Msg: 65
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/15/2006 9:18:48 AM
Bottom line people, there are idiots in ANY career. Sitting here and putting down the people that protect you everyday makes you... well...
 Simply*Enchanted
Joined: 3/9/2006
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Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/15/2006 10:06:31 AM
I think it would make a big difference in their popularity if instead of only trying to put people in jail or write tickets........They stopped to help stradend motorists and things like that as well.

But, they don't...my motor blew up with a cop right behind me....did he stop? No! (just swerved around me)

But, had I been doing anything he could have made money off of....believe he'd have taken the time to "say hello!" lol

They are here initially to "protect and serve" right?

SERVE???? PROTECT??? the two things I have yet to see them do.


Disclaimer:
This is in no way a bashing/threat to any police department or its employee's. The opinions expressed in the above statement are solely for the purpose of honestly answering the above question asked in this forum.

LOL
 darkangelofdeath™
Joined: 7/14/2006
Msg: 67
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/15/2006 11:06:37 AM
lmfao a few bad cops does not make them all evil. You all would like to think that so you can continue on hating the people that protect us.


There are valid reasons why people feel this way. Infact, I bet some pig is sitting in a donut shop parking lot right now at the expense of someone elses life.


Sitting here and putting down the people that protect you everyday makes you... well...


lmao! no comment.
 Byrd
Joined: 7/19/2004
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Posted: 11/15/2006 11:30:10 AM
I'm wondering about something the supreme court recently passed a new law that police officers are not bound to protect and serve if their life is in danger...Anyone else know about this? And if they know about this new law do can you or anyone explain it..Does this mean that the saying "To Protect and Serve.." Is no longer going to be the police officers motto? I'm not trying to hijack the thread....I'm just wondering.
 Bloodless™
Joined: 5/22/2006
Msg: 69
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/15/2006 11:42:37 AM
I generally do not like police. A few years back my car was broken into. I reperted it, lost out on a $500 deductable for the car and a $500 for house insurance so that I could repair the vehicle and replace the items (such as CD's) that were in it. At the police station they said there is really nothing they can do about it. I called back a few days later and they said they don't have the time to look into it. It took me 6 days to have the name and address of the guy selling my car stereo. Instead of the cops looking for people committing crimes like that they would rather eat donuts and drink coffee while sitting in a parked car holding a radar gun.

When it comes to gang units and what not, I have very little respect for them. One of my best friends use to be a not so outstanding citizen. He was let go countless times, while in posession of cocaine. The only times he was taken in was for a big bust or when he was with some high rollers who had dirt on them. He has spent a good portion of his life in and out of jail. He was beat and robbed by cops in a back alley....I guess they knew he wouldn't report a $5,000 drug money loss to the police. Many of them are as crooked as the criminals.

Here are my encounters with police :

I have been pulled over many times. When I ask what I am pulled over for they say "suspicion". I ask why and they say it's the tinted windows and loud music. Seems to me they like to harass the innocent by using prejudice tactics.

When my car was broken into and gutted they did f-ck all.

I have been pulled over for speeding but have yet to hear of anyone being pulled over for impeading traffic for going under the speed limits in excellent driving conditions.

I was called in to write a report on a death threat I over heard....that was the extent of it....the guy uttering the threats to my friend had his friends lie for him.

The way I see it you are better off solving your own problems with criminals as that way something will be done. If left to the police they spend half the time writing reports and the other half harassing speeders as real crime is too much effort for them.
 SOBEIT19
Joined: 10/15/2006
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Posted: 11/15/2006 2:26:30 PM
Because all it takes is one bad cop, one bad experience and there you are.. I don't have much respect for them.. From profileing, to beating unarmed suspects, to shooting unarmed suspects, to killing innocent people in rediculous car chases.. for what a stolen car?? That equals the value of a teen age girl on her way home from work?? A stinking stolen car???

All I have to say about living in Florida is this.. you better be white driving that nice car, cause if you're not your azz is being pulled over.. and don't dare question why they pulled you over, that might gain you being dragged out of your car, searched, beaten, or worse.. If you are not white when pulled over, you better come to a complete stop, put the car in gear, put both hands out the window, cross them at the wrist.. Dont assume when you reach for your paperwork in the glove box that that movement wont be mistaken as reaching for a gun.. you can damned well die in this state.. so yep.. hate em

And by the way.. I am fifty.. white.. law abiding.. I know injustice when I see it.. I believe the bad in this case out weighs the good.. .. yep still hate em..
 army-guy35
Joined: 11/6/2006
Msg: 71
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/16/2006 7:11:57 AM
the same people that **** about cops...are the ones that call 911 when every litle thing happens. people just like to whine and cry
 Flyers_Phan
Joined: 1/16/2005
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Posted: 11/16/2006 2:13:24 PM
I shake my head whenever i see a cop go through a red light, i mean, they put on their flashers, go through, then turn em off. Guess they gotta hit the nearest Timmies for their donut quota. Its rather obvious that they are not in an emergency situation, rather they feel because they have a badge, they can use it to their advantage and be impatient****.
 packleader
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 73
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/16/2006 4:25:54 PM
Attention,attention.....Police Station toilet stolen....Cops have nothing to go on.......
 SOBEIT19
Joined: 10/15/2006
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Posted: 11/16/2006 5:16:31 PM
I would crawl thru broken glass before I call 911
 Okwaho65
Joined: 11/12/2006
Msg: 75
Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 11/16/2006 5:17:49 PM

I shake my head whenever i see a cop go through a red light, i mean, they put on their flashers, go through, then turn em off. Guess they gotta hit the nearest Timmies for their donut quota. Its rather obvious that they are not in an emergency situation, rather they feel because they have a badge, they can use it to their advantage and be impatient****.


...And sometimes (and please note I said "sometimes") when they do this, ever stop to consider they may be responding to a call that requires they not approach with full lights and siren? At times this may be a necessity.
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