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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/29/2007 8:48:57 PM | | My friend doesn't like them. He's a hard working guy with two jobs works from 8am - midnight with a 90 min break between the two jobs, he works seven days a week. He dresses in regular casual clothes, or his work uniform, his hair style is not thuggy. He is a young Mexican who drives a nice vehicle and he regularly gets stopped. The cops invent some reason for stopping him and then ask him if he has anything illegal in his car etc. Without question racism plays a part and he's tired of it, and now angry towards cops. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/30/2007 7:30:02 AM | As another poster has said it's not that we hate cops. We just don't give them the respect and trust that most of them believe that they are ENTITLED to.
Respect is not automatic, you have to earn it. Over the last few decades many officers have ensured that the respect and trust once enjoyed by the profession has been lost.
Want that respect and trust back? Then earn it. Clean up your profession. It is all too easy to say that there is a few bad eggs. That is just another excuse.
When a segment of society is given authority over the rest there is no room for the bad eggs. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 6/30/2007 8:21:38 AM | becasue a fair # are whacked out & addicted to violence?
from 3 weeks ago:
Just before London, ON police's "rising female star" and her ex-lover, a retired officer, were killed in a murder-suicide, she made a mysterious stop at the police station.
Then, Acting Insp. Kelly Johnson, the force's highest- ranking female officer, jumped into a waiting van.
Minutes later, two gunshots were fired inside a van before it crashed into a brick wall six blocks away from the station, outside Johnson's apartment building at 7 Picton St.
Stunned neighbours found Johnson, 40, dead, her face bloody, her 9 mm Glock service pistol -- which she wasn't authorized to have with her -- on her lap.
Beside her, the driver of the van and her ex-lover, retired superintendent David Lucio, 57, was slumped over with what witnesses called a bullet wound to the head. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/1/2007 9:46:31 PM | | "LadyDreadHead": Your son sounds like he is a very intelligent man, to be stopped several times by police, and yet he decided to be polite and cooperative. That is exactly what every person stopped by police should do. It shows that he has nothing to hide, and eventually, the police will respect him for it, and sooner or later, will decide to leave him alone. I know I would have. | |
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| Just to lighten things up a bit....
Posted: 7/1/2007 10:24:17 PM | Subject: Got to love this Nurse!
A highway patrolman was rushed to the hospital with an inflamed
appendix. The doctors operated and advised him that all was well.
However, the patrolman kept feeling something pulling at the hairs In
his crotch. Worried that it might be a second surgery the doctors hadn't
told him about, he finally got enough energy to pull his hospital gown
up enough so he could look at what was making him so uncomfortable.
Taped firmly across his pubic hair were three wide strips of adhesive
tape, the kind that takes everything with it when you pull it off.
Written in large black letters was the sentence:
"Get well quick..... from the nurse you gave a ticket to last week."
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/2/2007 7:02:31 AM | I'm going to end up hating cops if the RCMP doesn't accept me. lol, just kidding.
The ones around here in Niagara are absolutely brutal though. It's not uncommon to see them beat up drunks that are handcuffed, that are not giving any physical resistance. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/2/2007 8:02:15 AM | I read as much as I could and shocked at some of the responses. Unbelievable.
I am proud you are a police officer and we are lucky you and others decide to do what you do. Stand tall---you have my respect every day of my life! | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/2/2007 11:46:26 AM | destruction,
That is just wrong. Once they are cuffed, it is over. If while they are cuffed they are still kicking, spitting, biting, etc., then it is not exactly over, and that is what OC spray or a taser is for, not just for the sheer testosterone pleasure or stress relief of giving someone a beating.
Unfortunately, the persons of which you speak probably do not have the educational level to articulate a solid complaint.
I totally disagree with what you just described! | |
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Joined: 4/21/2007
Msg: 734 | |
| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/2/2007 2:52:17 PM | I still love cops, always will.
I have never had one treat me badly, they have ALWAYS been courteous and friendly. With the funnies jokes I have ever heard! Then again, I am not breaking the law.... | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/2/2007 3:16:15 PM | A lawyer runs a stop sign in North Dakota and gets pulled over by a
sheriff's deputy.He believes he is smarter than the deputy because he is a
lawyer from New York, and is certain he has a better education than any cop from
North Dakota. He decides to prove this to himself and have some fun at the
Deputy's' expense Deputy: "License and registration, please." Lawyer: "What
for?" Deputy: "You didn't come to a complete stop at the stop sign." Lawyer: "I
slowed down, and no one was coming." Deputy: "You still didn't come to a
complete stop. License and registration, please." Lawyer: "What's the
difference?" Deputy: "The difference is you have to come to a complete stop,
that's the law. License and registration, please!" Lawyer: "If you can show me
the legal difference between slow down and stop, I'll give you my license and
registration, and you give me the ticket. If not, you let me go and don't give
me the ticket." Deputy: "Sounds fair. Please exit your vehicle, sir." Smug in
his belief the deputy cannot prove the difference, the lawyer exits his vehicle.
At this point, the deputy takes out his nightstick and starts beating the
ever-loving crap out of the lawyer and asks... "Do you want me to stop... or
just slow down?" | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/2/2007 3:42:59 PM | I didn't really rread the other posts on this thread yet but wanted to put my two cents in without getting side tracked.
A while back I worked in our police department here and some of the guys were great and loved thier jobs and what that job meant.
But now you see way too many of the people that are supposed to be protecting us doing just the opposite.
A friend of mine was at the bar and his friend started to kick his own car because the door wouldn't open. Well someone called the cops and the one that showed up got the guy cuffed threw him on the ground and proceeded to kick him in the head a couple times. My friend said that was an F'd up thing to do and the cop walks over and hits him in the face. Didn't try to arrest him just hit him, and after slamming his head against the ground a few times my friend managed to get loose and hit him back, breaking his cheek or jaw in the process. There was a camera so they had a vidio but it had gone missing along with my friends x-rays from jail. So you tell me why so many people seem to have a problem.
Like i said there are some good men and women out there who are good but i think they are becoming few and far between. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/2/2007 8:24:15 PM | Kellylivinlife,
I like peppering all of this debate with a little bit of humor, so thanks for the laugh!
I actually posted this on Random Acts of Kindness, which is an uplifting thread.
A woman went out of her way on 7/1(Sunday) to turn a payroll check dated 6/29 (Friday) into the police station that she had found. If I had wanted to be really lazy, I could have shredded it and said, "What are you talking about?" A clean conscience makes a soft pillow, though!
Procedure dictates that I am supposed to do a "Property Found" report, tag the property, and let it fall into a black hole.
First, I tried to get a phone number, but the number was disconnected. Understanding the hoops to report a check lost and get it reissued, I consulted with my boss, who gave me permission to call for a car to attempt to deliver the lost check. We are a sarcastic bunch, and Kevin said, dryly, that he could not do that because it was not his zone. The lady to whom the check was issued lives in a relative war zone, and they hate cops down in that area. I said that if it were me, I would rather have my check back instead of a Property Found report.
Kevin successfully delivered the check, and this woman was so very happy and relieved!
I could have done things by the book, but that would not have helped the person who lost the check!
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On the other hand, many people might look at me as kind of a butthead. Driving is a privilege and not a right, and financial responsibility is a requirement, along with a license, for the privilege to drive!
A young man came to the police station to report that someone had shot at him while he was driving his girlfriend's car, and it struck the windshield. He insists that he was a random victim, of which I am very skeptical.
I asked him for his license, which I do everyone, to fill out the blanks on the police report. He said he did not have one. I asked him if he did not have it with him, or if he did not have one. He did not possess a license. I excused myself. I went into the back and obtained a ticket book.
Certainly, he was the victim of a felony, for the shooting, but he had no business behind the wheel of the car!
I told him that when I completed getting his statement for the report, I would be issuing him a citation for Driving Without a License, and a summons to his girlfriend for Unlawful Entrustment, for allowing an unlicensed driver to use her car on the roadways.
When a person without financial responsibilty hits another person, that person has to pay their deductible to get their own car fixed. So what is the difference between robbing someone of $500, if that is what they are out because of your actions?
He was the Victim of a Felonious Assault/Shooting but he was also guilty of a misdemeanor traffic by his own admission, when he was making the report!
That is not victimizing the victim, because I was still doing the report. Yet, by making the report, he was also reporting himself.. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/2/2007 9:22:30 PM | NocturnalPrincess: I used to run into stuff like that every once in a while, someone who came to the PD to report a crime, while they themselves were also commiting one as well, like your driver did. But what really amazed me, and the court I worked with, was the drivers who were cited for driving under suspension, who would drive themselves to court and park in the court parking lot (while a camera for the parking lot filmed them doing so). And then, while in front of the court judge would lie to the judge when questioned by the judge about how they got to court that day! Of course, the judge would simply play the recorded lot tape, and it would show the defendant parking his car, and going into court! Well, then it was contempt of court, yet another citation for driving under suspension. It got to be fun and funny at first, but after awhile, it just was plain sad.
That lawyer joke about the deputy beating the lawyer was very funny!!! lol I did enjoy that. | |
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| when cops are 'convicted' ?
Posted: 7/4/2007 4:20:37 PM | LOL! :)
when a COP (RCMP officer) in British Columbia pled guilty to internet luring of a minor (on the community policing station's computer, yet! what an IDIOT!!)
he was given a sentence of ONE DAY in jail..joke?? sadly, no, not in Canada..
http://www.parl.gc.ca/39/1/parlbus/commbus/senate/com-e/soci-e/44662-e.htm?Language=E&Parl=39&Ses=1&comm_id=47 | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/4/2007 11:51:28 PM | | I know a couple personally, and they both feel they can speed and get away with it. Oh, they are reserve deputies. One not working at it anymore and one still active. It has always been rumored that the majority of police officers are abusive to their spouses. However, my aunt in Las Vegas was married to a very good police man who never beat her or abused her in any way. She says there are many on the force that are very decent. So I will side with her. One bad apple don't really spoil the whole barrel. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/5/2007 12:09:48 AM |
destruction,
That is just wrong. Once they are cuffed, it is over. If while they are cuffed they are still kicking, spitting, biting, etc., then it is not exactly over, and that is what OC spray or a taser is for, not just for the sheer testosterone pleasure or stress relief of giving someone a beating.
Unfortunately, the persons of which you speak probably do not have the educational level to articulate a solid complaint.
I totally disagree with what you just described!
I couldn't agree more. What is sort of scary about it is the officer just doesn't care, and that's the sort of person that I personally wouldn't want to file a complaint against. He finds out someones making a complaint against him (he's going to know who...), who knows what he'd do off-duty to you.
It's freaky.
*shrugs* I'll never understand why municipal police forces don't use polygraph tests around here. The RCMP does, and from what I've heard, they give you one every few years to check on your behavior and other habits. (RCMP is a federal branch of police, I suppose similar to FBI, but they also uniform police outside of Ontario and Quebec). | |
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| when cops are 'convicted' ?
Posted: 7/5/2007 8:26:41 AM |
http://www.parl.gc.ca/39/1/parlbus/commbus/senate/com-e/soci-e/44662-e.htm?Language=E&Parl=39&Ses=1&comm_id=47
I read that story, the girl was 12 years old.. | |
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| Good Cops & Bad Cops
Posted: 7/6/2007 1:15:04 PM | For our small Big City Police Department, I had to take a Civil Service test, pass a physical, pass a physical agility test, take the MMPI, and then be evaluated by a shrink, face to face after he had looked at my MMPI results. Some people just manage to slip through the cracks. [And if I passed the psychological component, anyone can!  ]
Regarding complaints, we have a Civilian Review Board and Internal Affairs, both. The majority of complaints are unfounded, but the ones that have merit are dealt with very seriously.
Someone mentioned a polygraph test in the case of wrong-doing. There are two problems with this approach. One is that, at least here in the States, a polygraph is inadmissable in a Court of Law. Secondly, a Sociopath can easily pass a polygraph. A sociopath is a person that knows what the rules are, the difference between right and wrong, but they do not matter; they have no conscience. Thus, they would not have the physiological responses that trigger the polygraph.
There are a lot of people out there that hate the police, but call whenever they want to try to manipulate the System. That part gets very frustrating.
I just read a letter to the editor petitioning people to help others learn to read, because our jails are cluttered with adults that cannot read above a 6th grade level. I find that to be pathetic and horrendous, because every year they are asking for a new school levy, and the number of juveniles that do not go to school, disrupt school, and wind up in Life Skills University for a GED when they are 22 (also paid for by the taxpayers) is a travesty. We are not a Third World Country, and the educational opportunities are there!
On the other hand, almost always when I am dealing with juveniles, I ask if they are attending school and how are there grades, and often ask these kids if they have any goals for their futures. Maybe one in one hundred I feel like I am not wasting my breath on.
So many people carry the Race Card in their pockets and throw it out like a trump card whenever is convenient, and that is frustrating to me. I understand that there have probably been some experiences in their lives that led them to that perspective, but please do not project that onto me!
I suppose at times that I can be an A$$HOLE, as any of us can be, but I am equal opportunity, and I try to be cognizant of my mannerisms.
Yesterday at work, I was the only SR Car (one-person/reports) working, so I get sent all over. Just as I was pulling up to take a GTMV report, I was called off to go back down to the area from which I had just come, for a missing 13 year-old. I had just been thinking that I was really tired of driving by that point, so I snarled at our dispatcher, but in taking down the assignment I told her that I knew it wasn't her fault. I telephoned her later to apologize for being surly with her. She told me that she was shocked that I put over the air that "I know it is not your fault."
This thread has inspired a lot of introspection for me, and I am generally a fairly compassionate person, but this thread has served to remind me that people call the police because they are in crisis.
For those that think that the police think they are above the law, they are out there, most certainly! Once when I was working on the East Side, the Mayor of an adjacent suburb came to the station at 0300 hrs to pick up his son that was picked up for drugs. Don't you just love politics!
How about the female school teachers that get into sexual relationships with their students, but are "too pretty" to go to jail? Selective enforcement of rules will always be there.
Jail for a convicted cop has to be their worst nighmare!
My final rambling here (for now):
I have essentially developed my own style of policing, which is what is called "Community Policing." We used to have a CP Unit, but no more since budget cuts. I talk to people and try to help them find solutions to their problems. I try to foster more positive connections with the community. I try to look out for our seniors.
Yesterday, I stopped and said hello to a man with a large, friendly dog and a bunch of little kids. One little kid said, "My Mom was in jail..." That is what my uniform represents to them: Jail. On that same street, some teenaged girls were walking and one smiled and waved, and I reciprocated, and as I passed, I heard, "...she is a NICE police officer!" While I drove for sixty miles, I had time to think about those interactions and this thread.
I will let the Bad Boyz do their thing and step it up if I have to, to go home alive. Ironically, with my hot pink handcuffs, they foster warm interactions with the people I mostly deal with, because they generate smiles. If need be, I can put on my prick mask though, but that is not who I really am, at least not most of the time. I work alone, and spent most of my shift with the citizenry and not fellow police officers. | |
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| Good Cops & Bad Cops
Posted: 7/6/2007 1:17:33 PM |
Someone mentioned a polygraph test in the case of wrong-doing. There are two problems with this approach. One is that, at least here in the States, a polygraph is inadmissable in a Court of Law. Secondly, a Sociopath can easily pass a polygraph. A sociopath is a person that knows what the rules are, the difference between right and wrong, but they do not matter; they have no conscience. Thus, they would not have the physiological responses that trigger the polygraph.
but it doesn't have to be used in a court of law, just a periodic screening?
it is my understanding that the FBI does periodic polygraphs on all its agents ?
(every year or 2?) ..why do they do that? | |
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| Good Cops & Bad Cops
Posted: 7/6/2007 3:15:25 PM | | many companies use a polygraph test as part of a ongoing screening process. You aren't talking a court of law here. Merely a continuation of the evaluation. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/6/2007 10:49:31 PM | Hey BEN.... you just said it yourself......90% of the police officers, do not respect/protect the rights of anyone but themselves. People become police officers today because the pay is damn good, in smaller cities anyway, and unfortunately
because they have a very controlling personality. Many were picked on in school, and have a resulting inferiority complex. I don't know how old you are, but I will give you this: I have always found that the senior officers, are the best there are, period.
But even that is bound to change as the older ones retire.
I believe that a whole lot of officers today are nothing more than criminals with a badge. Thanks to Bill Clinton there are often more cops in cities that have very little
real crime. I dont hate cops, I hate people who abuse authority, discriminate against
people,( refuse to give the benefit of the doubt) and live by double standards.
ie: cops who drink and drive freely and repeatedly without reprisals, it just so happens that a lot of the afore mentioned type of people are cops.
As for people in general hating cops, it might be from T.V. shows like cops, which to me personally are very educational, but often bring out some very bad emotions in me that I don't like to show.
peace ya'll
Shomesomethin
postscript: I had a cousin who was shot to death in the line of duty,by
an escaped convict. | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/6/2007 11:13:15 PM | NocturnalPrincess: I dont care what educational level any person has, if police officers are beating up anyone cuffed or not , it is WRONG, DEAD WRONG .
As I just said in the message I just sent you, you are very pretty, possibly even beautiful in person, regrettably I will never find out just how beautiful you are,
as you are so very ugly on the inside, where it really matters, or so it appears, judging from your statement
in msg. 734.
Peace everybody......
To all the GOOD cops: Thank you, Great job!! | |
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| Good Cops & Bad Cops
Posted: 7/6/2007 11:35:19 PM | HEY NOC..... you ever consider another line of work, like stand-up comedy?
you are a very good bullshitter!!! why would you snap at the dispatcher? my god that's one of your own!! You don't seem to have the right disposition to be a cop!!!
Luv Ya,
Shomesomethin | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/6/2007 11:48:11 PM | to: late... I think people don't realize, it is'nt the person that is hated, but the things that
person says( often without thinking) and does(ditto).
Peace
Shomesomethin | |
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| Why do so many people seem to hate cops?
Posted: 7/7/2007 12:39:54 AM | You misread MSSG 734.
I was agreeing that it is WRONG. I said that it was unfortunate that often these people lack articulation skills when trying to lodge a complaint. | |
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