| Premature babies may be left to die
Posted: 6/12/2008 12:11:53 AM | Oh Miss G,
I have tears in my eyes for you here darling. I am so so sorry to hear the you and your son and his lady are going through this, i really am.
My thoughts are with you all.
God Bless
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| Premature babies may be left to die
Posted: 6/12/2008 12:29:10 AM | This is hard as if it was my baby on the one hand at the time i would want anything possible done to save them,and on the other i wouldnt want them to suffer having to fight to maybe survive but have no qaulity of life due to brain damage ect.
Ive experienced the difference a couple of weeks makes with babies and it deppends on the baby themself.Years ago my best friend had a baby at 23 weeks and they didnt try to resuscitate him and he only lived for a few minuted yet my sisters waters broke at 26 weeks and her daughter was born perfect and could even breath on her own,she has never had a problem and yet another friend had her baby 12 weeks early and she fought from day 1 and had to be rescitated many times and in the end her mum made the decision to let her go as it wasnt fair.
I think it all deppends on the baby if its a fighter and showing good signs of survival then atleast give them that chance but if the outlook doesnt look good then let them go.
I would hate to have that decision to make but i'm sure the proffesionals wont take it lightly.
Just re read this thread and my thoughts are also with you and your family Miss G x | |
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| Premature babies may be left to die
Posted: 6/12/2008 1:36:55 PM | I'm so sorry.
May God give you all the strength you need at this time.
Mere "words" can't really express much in this circumstance can they? | |
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| Premature babies may be left to die
Posted: 6/13/2008 8:54:54 AM | | i got told no babies 22wks or under survive so i thnk it is a realistic cut off point anything above 22 weeks they should try if only1% of 22wk prem babies survive its not justifiable to waste scarce resorceson a baby that wont survive | |
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| Premature babies may be left to die
Posted: 7/11/2008 4:40:40 PM | Miss G, what a terrible loss your family is suffering! Prayers and good thoughts coming your way.
When it comes to preemies, I say they should try to resuscitate EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM, no matter how premature. It's NOT the doctors' job to choose who lives and who dies or judge what constitutes quality of life or 'viability'. Since no doctor can be 100% certain which preemies will thrive, it is their duty is to do their best to save each one, even if it ends in disability (which is NOT the end of the world, by the way).
My son was born at 25 weeks 4 days. We were warned he was unlikely to survive and, if he did, he'd be profoundly disabled.
Had it not been for the dedication of his neonatal team, my delightful, funny, charming, affectionate 11yo boy would not be here to complete my life today.
Yes, the trauma of his prematurity left him with mild cerebral palsy, but he is a blessing, not a social burden. Although he has a slight language disorder and uses a wheelchair and walking frame, the mildness of his condition came as such a surprise that his consultant still uses him as a case study at the teaching hospital.
He's an extremely sociable, charismatic, popular lad preparing to enter a 'normal' secondary school. He's girl-crazy, a world-class flirt, funny as fook and mad for High School Musical and WWE. He sings, goes to rock gigs with his dad, torments his little brother and cops a 'tude when told to turn off his PS2. Standard fare for an 11yo, really.
It's my privilege to raise him, and I'm so grateful that God gave this child to me (and his father) rather than to parents who couldn't cope.
ALL of these babies deserve a fighting chance, because preemies confound and outwit the professionals all the time with their fighting spirit. | |
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| Premature babies may be left to die
Posted: 7/12/2008 2:47:00 AM | Babies born a before 24 weeks have a low survival rate and are likely to grow up severly disabled.
But surely a few years ago the exact same could have been said about babies born before 28 weeks.
But a percentage (albeit small) of these babies survived and went on to lead healthy lives from that experience medical science discovered more about premature babies and how to treat them with the result that 28 week babies now have a high survival rate and even 22 week babies now have a chance of survival.
If we stop treating babies because they have only a 1 percent chance of survival why not apply the same logic to adults and why 1% why not 5% or 10% or even 20% ?
Indeed why spend money on hospitals at all ? | |
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| Premature babies may be left to die
Posted: 7/12/2008 5:59:12 AM | if only1% of 22wk prem babies survive its not justifiable to waste scarce resorceson a baby that wont survive
Pullmycrackers, I had to read your post several times to decipher your point, since you seem to have a pathological aversion to punctuation. But I believe you're trying to say if only 1% of 22-weekers survive, then they're not worth the hassle. Am I right?
Questions: What if a doctor told you, "Sorry -- but I really can't be a*sed to resuscitate your newborn?" What if it had been YOU who had been born among that 1%?
The doctors' job is to save lives, not to cherry-pick whose life is worth saving. | |
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| Premature babies may be left to die
Posted: 8/11/2008 4:00:59 AM | if the NHS can spend money on smokers, druggies, alcholics, and people who don't pay into the system why not on an inocent life. If they show willing to fight to breath if born early we should help fight for em.
I borned a still born baby at 20 weeks I would have given anything to have had her stay with me a little while longer.
So instead of treating the likes of Myra Hindley etc in prison pile the resources into the needy and let the greedy rot ! | |
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| Premature babies may be left to die
Posted: 8/11/2008 5:42:03 AM |
Do you think this should be allowed to happen, or should all babies be resuscitated.?
This is a controversial subject and there are no right or wrong answers to this. I personally think that the decision should be left to the parents to make, although due to the obvious stressful nature of the situation of a premature birth for parents, some may not take on bored the whole picture, or have time to think about the long term implications that this decision is going to have on the baby in the future (if they survive).
We only ever read about the 'miracle baby' who survived being born at 22 weeks gestation. We hardly ever hear about the long term disabilities and health problems that these babies go on to suffer from for years to come. | |
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| Premature babies may be left to die
Posted: 8/11/2008 6:25:07 AM | I have a few things to say on this...
firstly Miss G I would like to extend my condolences to you and your family at this time...words cannot express the magnitude of your loss...
secondy (i may be wrong plese correct me if i am) i am almost certain the at the present time viable age is 24 weeks. doctors are under no obligation to save a baby under this age. the reason i think this is because the legal limit for a termination is 24 weeks. so if the age is being dropped to 22 weeks i personally feel this is a good thing. just a thought iff the viable age is dropping to 22 weeks does that mean that the legal limit for abortion is also dropping to 22 weeks...i thought this had been debated in parliament and they voted not to change the 24 week abortion limit...hmmm
if a child has a heartbeat and there are thing doctors can do to help them then i think they should. now as to whether this should be allowed to happen in babies younger than 22 weeks i feel this is a sticky topic. the fact is a child under that age is highly unlikely to survive...and yes it is very tragic....as a mother i want to say that all children should have the right for doctors to attempt to save them...as a scientist if there really is no chance of this child's survival and any procedures you undertake are invasive and highly unlikely to work why cause even more pain and suffering to the child...
as you can see its hard to come down on one side of the fence or the other. i personally think the best solution is to do it on a case by case basis. | |
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