| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 2/27/2008 3:58:50 AM | Old fashioned.
Well.... old fasioned what?
I'm not being sarcastic. Not in the least.
Did you ever wonder about the good old days. Well, in all fairness, those times may not have been so good. One earlier poster mentioned a TV show from the very early days. For a very few, that idealization may have been true. That still may hold true, but I seriously doubt it.
Hey, I had one grandmother who lived through a Nazi occupation while her husband was a captain of a merchant ship and absent for months on end. All the while holding together a household. Another grandmother went to look for work the day after her youngest daughter graduated frm high school. She didn't want a traditional female job...and she found one. Pretty remarkable for a brassy platinum blond in NYC at that time. Both were old fashioned, yet they did not let the norms of contemporary culture to deter them from pursuing things and people that were important to them. Sure they caught some heat. But they weighed the pro/cons of the situation and forged ahead.
I'm sure that most people here can give similar examples.
Each one of us has to live with whatever life experience, value system and moral compass we have in whatever contemporary setting we find ouselves. I don't really believe that there was any particular golden age for either gender. It was tough, it still is tough, and it will probably always be tough.
Really, it was only recently that it became acceptable for a woman to go out and earn her own living in whatever field she pursued. She can also decide for herself who among the potential suitors out there is best matched for her. Before that, if she didn't, people often looked at her in a funny way. Even today some people may think that.
What to do??
Decide for yourself. After all, your the one who is living your life.
(shrug)
edit: the Op was from 11/06....an old post, yet it still remains a topic of discusion today (and no doubt a topic for tomorrow). | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 2/28/2008 1:41:40 PM | I'll gladly take an old-fashioned girl. They are so HOT and have the right standards.
But how do I know that any of them exist inside the United States anymore? Most of them who are old-fashioned are either Quakers or live overseas. | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 3/3/2008 3:20:53 PM | I feel that the more modern and educated and strong a woman is, the harder is will be for her to find a mate.
In the old days, everyone knew their roles.. the women stayed at home and had lots of t ime to do their makeup, not be tired, cook nice meals for their husbands, take care of the crying kids before hubby got home.., the man's income was enough for the whole family as well so the woman felt secure. The woman was very feminine and dressed up pretty. It seemed everyone was happier on those days and certianly the children were well looked after........... | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 3/4/2008 1:39:16 AM | ^^^^ I think you've seen one too many reruns of Leave it to Beaver, and not enough of Married With Children...
> I feel that the more modern and educated and strong a woman is, the harder is will be for her to find a mate.
Silly me, I thought the definition of "modern" wrt women meant freedom from such things as mates. Good thing, too...
"Why men would ever want to live with most women the way they've been acting these last few decades is beyond me."
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octoro
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 3/4/2008 2:03:55 AM | LOL, oh come on now, didn't you like Happy Days, Brady Bunch, or Partridge family either.
Married with Children reminds me of Laverne and Shirley with those two wacko guys lol.
Just get a 10 year pre-nupt before the vows, rids the modern BS. | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 3/4/2008 3:41:09 AM | | To me an "Old fashioned girl" is like a vintage car -- nice but I am unlikely going to want to take her out for a spin around the town for fears that she is going to break down. | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 3/5/2008 10:11:18 PM |
Define Old Fashion?
What do you mean by old fashioned
Define old fashioned plz
Take a look at Post # 8
I must have hit a chord or come damn close to getting it right. Because I have received a lot mail from women telling me so and some thanking me for saying it. Now I just wish I could find one closer to home.
Yeah I also so got blasted my one or two. But I say again Old Fashion translate Real Lady! There aren't many left. | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 3/5/2008 10:27:08 PM |
My sons, 21 and 28, tell me that most girls/women their age rant if they try to open the door for them. Stating they are not helpless. It is not a matter of helpless, they simply are doing as they were taught.
Exactly as those girls are acting as they have been taught, by a savagely angry female population who believe that feminism opposed to the strength of oneself, its to attack everything that is attributed to being male or a "gentleman" as it's an insult.
I want a man's man (not a Neanderthal) who also has the softer gentler side but not a pansy or a doormat.
As with a lot of women who demand the best of both worlds, it's just that most don't understand the balance or try to help. Remove all role models, demand perfection, judge punitively and behave as if the failing is all the males fault opposed to a social problem and own 50% of it.
No wonder men are so confused as to what to do.
Indeed, try reading the book Stiffed. You'll understand the anger (and raising amount) a lot easier.
We want them to act so many different ways they don't know who to be with whom.
With fake ideals sold by partly a feminist movement, partly Hollywood and a sense of social revenge. Let alone peering across a gender gap with no idea of what it is actually like to be male in the first place.
I suggest you offer to get the door for the lady and see what happens. I can assure you most of us on here would like it.
Unfortunately you're wrong. It's a combination of the anger you've already mentioned balanced out with a gross level of expectation and disgust.
Which leads me to the reason there are very few gentlemen left; there are very few ladies .....
It's a social contract, a balance, an agreement; which is fading out due to a general lack of respect.
As I mentioned, read Stiffed. | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 3/5/2008 11:13:44 PM | I am not really sure if an old fashioned girl is from the 21st century, because although I have heard of them... I am not entirely sure what they are like... are we talking like the 50s? | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 3/11/2008 7:35:57 AM | | I curse, a lot. wouldnt like someone cleaning my house and cooking all the time. So no, I dont like oldfashion women. Be different if she just had strict morals about issues, but an oldfashion women is normally a house keeper, and I dont think I could handle that. | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 3/11/2008 3:19:03 PM | Personally I'd say no. I find women that are confident, assertive, and active most interesting. They have atleast part of their lives established, are to some degree independent, have a career, and goals they are pursuing.
I view old fashioned as setup in a simple job, c0ntent with any job (probably below their intelligence), and not pushing themselves to become challenged. The quiet simple girl just doesn't seem to have enough life experience in the world and do not seem as proactive in finding their way in the world.
Redirecting if this were a guy would he sound appealing? | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 5/11/2008 11:56:10 AM | | I think so...it depends on the guy obviously. I think it also depends on where your from. Here in the midwest I think guys have more of an afinity for "old fashion" girls. You may not find that same mentality on the coasts and so forth. I don't know...to each their own I guess. | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 5/11/2008 3:51:51 PM | Yes, some men want old fashioned women. Some men want old fashioned women but do not act accordingly to old fashion male standards. Some women think or say they are old fashioned but simply adopt or exhibit their interpretation of old fashion standards and mix them in with current standards.
I have read quite a few (more than 100) testimonials from men that sought marriage overseas (primarily czech republic, russia, ukraine, poland) that specifically sought a match to their idea of old fashion feminine behavior and found it. A lot of international dating sites also use this specific criteria in ad campaigns. I have also read quite a few complaints from men that women (generally from the U.S.) no longer understand or exhibit old fashioned values.
Therefore yes, some men still want what they consider an old fashioned girl. But due to the lack of significant availability (in the U.S.) some (and growing) generally seek globally.
Therefore, since some women are meeting the expectations of men seeking an old fashion girl, they do still exist. | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 5/11/2008 4:41:25 PM | | I believe society as a whole is pushing “old fashioned” men or women to the wayside. Humanity seems to be in a rush, with everything, as though nothing is worth sparing a little extra time to let things mature in their own way. Kids seem to be propelled into adulthood at an alarming rate, in part through pop-culture and trends in family life, the virtue of patience and hard work are quickly forgotten. Giving way to the quick fix of this “modern age”. | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 5/11/2008 4:52:58 PM | No not interested in "old fashioned" at all. I like many older women but being "old fashion" is not something that interests me at all.
Old fashion is code for "I can't change how I see the world and my life". | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 5/11/2008 5:47:46 PM | Sometimesithink2much, I think you may have not thought your response thoroughly when you said, "Old fashion is code for 'I can't change how I see the world and my life'."
I do not understand the association you came up with for that....that sounds more like someone who is "set in their ways." And that really doesn't have anything to do with being old fashion. | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 5/11/2008 6:02:32 PM | It sure does. Being "old fashion" means being conservative to me. In fact by its very definition "old fashion" means "conservative".. When you talk about conservatism it's pretty easy to come up with words like "prude" and mentalities that are stuck in one mode.. People who cannot think "outside the box" are by definition conservative. That being the box they know and were brought up in. True its a stereotype but it holds true if you ask me. Conservative means by definition .. Opposed to change or very slow change. New ideas and ways are not old fashion by design.
Old fashion is not something we ought to be looking at. We need to adapt and change to the new world we face everyday. Conservatism is a form of social regression. Old Fashion includes women being bare foot and pregnant. It's patriarchy currently desperately trying to retake power. If I were a women I'd not support that inadvertently by suggesting I was "old fashion". | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 5/11/2008 6:47:02 PM | | Oh yes, there are many men who look for women of that type. I presonally keep my eye out for women like that. For those more reserved, humble, and polite women out there who think they are not getting noticed, be sure to know that I actually look for women like that. They are more genuine to talk with, they connect with people more directly and I think will make a better partner because priorities are based on commitment for them. | |
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| Do men still look for old fashioned girls?
Posted: 5/11/2008 6:58:00 PM | Not sure If what you are calling old fashion and what most call old fashion are the same.
Once upon a time when 2 people decided to court each other, they were going steady with one another and not half the population. Each were proud to be with the one they were with and didn't taste of every icecream soda that passed by their way to see if they wanted onther one besides the one they had.
The men were gentlemen and treated a LADY with the respect that she deserved. After they had couted a while the man then asked the father of this young lady for his daughters hand in marriage.
When these to were jioned in marriage they knew and belived going in that this was a lifetime thing they were doing and not just something they were tring out for a year or two.
They had morals and values they they belived in and they taught their children if/when they had any the same.
Old fashion wasn't or isn't just the man working and the lady taking care of the house and kids.
Old fashioned is something to be respected and admired. Get your grandparents to talking about when they were growing up and the people they knew and you will hear them say , so and so was a good man, so and so was a good lady. so and so was a man that stood behind his word, so and so children were very nice and polite kids.
Then go asks your friends and yourself about people you know. You will hear alot of them saying, so and so is a whore and so and so won't even keep a job. so and so has the meanest kids i've ever seen.
Sure there were the same type people back then as now, but as we have lost the old fashions morals and values. we have lost more or the good people and gained more of the bad.
Would I like an old fashioned girl? But of course!!!! | |
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