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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 11/22/2006 9:30:02 PM | | Now that you guys have managed to convince yourselves that the Extremist Agenda exists, and was created by corporate hedgemony, the CIA, and the Military Industrial complex, what do you propose to do about it, and is Glenn correct in educating people that it exists without jumping to the conclusion of who created it? | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 11/22/2006 9:46:53 PM | Now that you guys have managed to convince yourselves that the Extremist Agenda exists
Please, there has never been a question of its existence, the question of "which agenda do you support", is key.
I don't support the agenda of any of the Abrahamic extremists, none of them.
As far as I'm concerned they're ALL "bad guys".
In the current context the one agenda that scares me the most is the one closest to my own backyard. They have the most money, they have the most weapons, and they are the one's doing the invading.
and was created by corporate hedgemony, the CIA, and the Military Industrial complex
The CIA?
Created and/or caused, ...yes. involvement in the Ba'athists in Iraq is a fact, involvement in the Mujahideen in Afghanistan is a fact.
Corporate hegemony?
Follow the money.
There is profit made here no matter who loses, who suffers, and who dies.
Military Industrial complex?
Do the math.
Start with the revenue totals of weapons sales to the Arab world/Israel
what do you propose to do about it,
Make sure I check facts, and try to influence a new way of approaching this, the old way is a way of escalation, ...not solutions.
and is Glenn correct in educating people that it exists without jumping to the conclusion of who created it?
If he has to rely on fabrication, misinterpertation, and obfuscation, ...who and what exactly IS he serving? | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 11/23/2006 5:19:09 AM |
Let's all watch on Friday, and see if we can figure it out. I don't think it is necessary. We've already figured out what agenda he is serving. The one of pandering to fear, racism and xenophobia through the ongoing demonization if Islam.
I find it rather convenient that you fail to mention the genocide happening right now in Darfur, which is being perportrated by Muslims. I also didn't mention the Sri Lankans/Tamil (predominately Buddhist and Hindu on Hindu), The Hutus/Tutsis (predominately Christian on Christian) or the Tripuran/Bengali (Hindu and Christian on Hindu). What is your point? | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 11/23/2006 8:51:07 AM |
We've already figured out what agenda he is serving. The one of pandering to fear, racism and xenophobia through the ongoing demonization if Islam.
It's nice to know that you have your own conclusions. As I stated earlier, they are yours. Of course, you didn't notice that I specifically stated that they are yours; because I didn't draw a picture for you. Unfortunately, I am not able to post the Venn Diagram of yours, mine, and ours, so that you can get the full impact.
So Beck is demonizing Islam, and not the extremist agenda of certain Islamic sects or persons? So now, I take it you mean to say that any white man who speaks out against the violence of Islamic Extremism is a racist? Yeah, we're all just a bunch of racists who play fiddle to the corporate elite. We have no independent thoughts. We are a bunch of media controlled robots. That's because we're white. Right? Who is the real bigot? | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 11/24/2006 11:55:40 AM | So now, I take it you mean to say that any white man who speaks out against the violence of Islamic Extremism is a racist? Yeah, we're all just a bunch of racists who play fiddle to the corporate elite. We have no independent thoughts. We are a bunch of media controlled robots. That's because we're white. Right?
Who mentioned Beck's or your race?
One of Beck's targets is Iran, most Persians are "white" people.
Who is the real bigot?
?? ...I don't know, ....why bring race into it at all?
Maybe that answer, will answer both questions..
My issue with Beck and those of his ilk is that their agenda isn't to inform, it's to indoctrinate. This is evident in their sources. | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 11/29/2006 7:39:17 AM | Example: "Come on, mom, just five more minutes, PLEASE ?"
Yes....and a winking emoticon is a so much more adult way to get your point across.
"it is what I have come to expect from the "tolerant left" ... arrogance."
And what we have come to expect from the right?.....half-truths and mis-direction.
On topic....Beck is nut.
"In November 2006, Beck drew criticism on Jon Stewart's "The Daily Show" and Keith Olbermann's "Countdown" for asking Congressman-Elect Keith Ellison of Minnesota, the first American Muslim to be elected to Congress, if he understood that some Americans may feel like asking, "prove to me that you are not working with our enemies".[12] Olbermann named Beck the winner of the "Worst Person in the World" award for his comments.[13] Ellison shrugged it off. "It's just shock TV," he said. "Some pundits think they have to ask the most outrageous questions."[14]"
He and O'Riley want to boot Vermont out of the Union for electing a "socialist" Bernard Sanders(I) to the House from Vermont.
He claimed the kid's penguin movie "Happy Feet" was an "an animated version of An Inconvienient Truth"
Beck compared Rick Santorum to Winston Churchill.
Like I said...the man is nuts. | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 11/29/2006 8:16:04 AM | I think Glenn is starting to fall into the ratings war now that he is on CNN. I listened to him when he was local to Tampa... Great guy.. I loved his show. Funny as hell.. and sometimes would bring up something to make you stop and really think.
Often he would mention things like "What are we supposed to do when UN Sanctions are ignored... When something that the UN says do this or else... and it is ignored.. then the UN Sanctions become pointless." It used to be much more tame. But he believes what he believes. I can't say as I disagree with everything he says , though I haven't heard him in months...
Sometimes I think he is simply just venting because the media really glosses over things that should "SCARE THE SH*T OUTTA YOU"... because it is fine to show blood, death destruction.. but don't actually make people afraid... then they shut it off... Glen tends to tred into that territory.
I think the last time I heard him, he was doing speeches from the Iranian President. Showing inconsistancies about how he acts on US TV spots, and speeches he gives to his own people. I think he likes to remind people of the extremists that people don't want to think about. And they are on ALL sides... Secular, Christian, Muslim, Liberal, Conservative, Rich, Poor, Corporate... All beliefes and lifestyles have extremists... the funny part is.. most extremists don't view themselves that way. | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 12/1/2006 8:25:48 AM |
I think the last time I heard him, he was doing speeches from the Iranian President. Showing inconsistancies about how he acts on US TV spots, and speeches he gives to his own people. No doubt all translated by MEMRI ... and we all know how reliable that service is ... NOT.
the funny part is.. most extremists don't view themselves that way. Yeah ... take the right wing extremists ... they can be entertaining. If it looks like sh*t, and smells like sh*t ... you can count on them to eat it right up ... and ask for seconds. Glenn Beck does fill the menu with plenty of goodies for the "right wingers".
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 9/25/2009 7:52:04 PM | | Its funny how his "take this country back" is code for taking the country back from "African socialist Kenyans" - I don't think Glenn would be that popular without Obama. Granted he did get ratings when GWB was in power, but I think everyone turned on GWB in the end. I think Jeb will run in 2012 and it will be close. I hope its not Palin. | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 9/25/2009 9:34:04 PM |
I think Jeb will run in 2012 and it will be close. I hope its not Palin.
Nope, after leaving the Florida governorship even he acquiesced that (thanks to his brother) his political career was over. Thanks to W, the only way another Bush will be let into the white house is if they're bringing a mop and a bucket with them.
But, back on topic, it is nice to know that Beck has been freaking' people out since 2006. Not surprising he ended up on Fox. | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 9/26/2009 2:32:41 AM | I sat through one show of becks when he started praising Joseph McCarthy it was time to switch the channel.

You probably never heard of Van Jones, and you may never hear of him again. Until last week, he was President Obama's adviser on "Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation" in the White House Council on Environmental Quality.
But he is no longer. Now he's out of a job. And therein lies a tale that should make all of us angry or nervous.
One man railroaded Jones out of his job: Fox News anchor and radio talk show host Glenn Beck. You remember him. He's the nut who called President Obama a "racist" on "Fox and Friends" last July 28.
There was a time, not so long ago, when calling the president of the United States a "racist" on national television would get an anchor fired. But that was before Fox News. At Fox, archenemy of President Obama, Beck was not only not fired he was treated like a folk hero -- even though some 60 major corporate sponsors stopped advertising on his program in protest.
Rather than apologize to President Obama, the decent thing to do, Beck went berserk, accusing Obama of staging a quiet coup d'etat to turn this country into a Cuba-like communist dictatorship. "There is a revolution," he warned his gullible audience, "and they think they can get away with it quietly. ... Most of America doesn't have a clue as to what's going on. There is a coup going on." (Cue the Black Hawk helicopters!)
And, to help him carry out that coup, fumed Beck, Obama has surrounded himself with a gang of communist agitators known as "czars." Beck's first target: "Green Jobs" czar Van Jones.
Jones hardly fits the profile of a dangerous radical, unless saving the environment is your definition of subversive activity. A graduate of the University of Tennessee and Yale Law School, Jones became a community organizer and created the nation's first "Green Job Corps" in Oakland, Calif., in 2005. That same year, he also helped form the web-based grassroots organization Color of Change, which organized the current sponsor boycott of Beck's TV show. Jones left the organization in 2007. In January 2008, he launched "Green for All," a national organization to help lift people out of poverty through green jobs -- work for which he was recognized by Time magazine as one of the 100 most influential people in the country. In March 2009, he joined the Obama administration.
Yes, along the way, Jones made a few mistakes. He once signed a petition urging an investigation into the crazy theory that George Bush and Dick Cheney actually staged the attacks of Sept. 11. In 1992, after being falsely arrested in the Rodney King riots, he described himself as a "communist" -- though he never joined the Communist Party, but instead channeled his energies into founding a highly respected anti-police brutality organization in the Bay Area. More recently, he referred to Congressional Republicans attempting to derail Obama's legislative agenda as "a-holes."
Foolish mistakes, perhaps, but hardly worth destroying a career over. Yet, in 14 episodes of his show, Beck seized on these statements to paint Jones as a dangerous "communist-anarchist radical" heading a vast radical/environmental/black nationalist takeover of America from within the Obama White House.
It was a page ripped right out of the book of Commie witch hunter Joseph McCarthy: personal attacks on little-known government officials based on nothing but lies, smears and innuendo ("Are you now, or have you ever been...?") -- yet ultimately, just as successful. Within two weeks, Jones was forced to resign. And, rather than defend him, the Obama White House accepted his resignation.
Welcome to the Beckification of American politics -- where one cable host alone, with no help from Congress, can bring down a top government official, based on a campaign of lies and distortion. God save the Republic!
One thing for sure, which Obama should have considered before accepting Jones' resignation: Having once tasted blood, Glenn Beck won't be satisfied with destroying Van Jones alone. In fact, he's already identified his next targets: so-called White House "czars" on energy and climate change, Carol Browner; on science, John Holdren, on regulatory reform, Cass Sunstein, and on communications, Mark Lloyd.
Beck's diabolical campaign is all the more bizarre given his own avowed history with alcohol and drug addiction.
Which raises a serious question: Why believe a recovering alcoholic and drug addict over a former community organizer? I'll trust Van Jones any day over Glenn Beck.
(Bill Press is host of a nationally syndicated radio show and author of a new book, "Train Wreck: The End of the Conservative Revolution (and Not a Moment Too Soon)." You can hear "The Bill Press Show" at his Web site: | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 9/26/2009 8:13:35 AM | Today, in Mount Vernon, WA, the misguided mayor will be giving Glenn Beck the key to the city where Beck lived as a child.
This has caused an outraged outcry from the citizens, and prompted the City Council members to publicly state that they have distanced themselves from the mayor's decision--I guess they'd like to be re-elected when the time comes.
Glenn Beck is beyond bizarre, and so is the mayor's decision to give the key to the city to a man who has done nothing to deserve it, aside from spending his formative youth living here.
I think the boy needs an enema. | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 9/26/2009 9:37:50 AM | Glenn Beck is beyond bizarre, and so is the mayor's decision to give the key to the city to a man who has done nothing to deserve it, aside from spending his formative youth living here.
Yet Beck was right about ACORN!
So it is attack the whistle blower. | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 9/26/2009 9:51:16 AM | Glenn Beck isn't so much a whistle blower--doesn't he have to belong to ACORN to actually be a whistle blower?--as he is a windbag.
Throw enough darts, and sooner or later, you're gonna hit the target. And, it remains to be seen just how 'right' Beck was about ACORN. My disgust with Beck and his ilk goes far beyond ACORN. | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 9/26/2009 10:35:31 AM | .
Joseph McCarthy........... check out Becks hero W. Cleon Skousen.......
From Glenn Beck's ...."Arguing With Idiots"
How many times have you argued with your idiot friends about what's constitutional and what isn't? You may even show them the Constitution, but the disagreement continues. That made me think that maybe the problem is that the entire Constitution is written in English -- a language that is very difficult for the average idiot to comprehend. In addition, there are several words in the document longer than three letters, making it a tougher read than the "Dick and Jane" books they normally struggle through.
What follows is a translation (from English to Idiot) of several important parts of the U.S. Constitution, leaving no doubt as to what our Founding Fathers really intended. [Beck, et. al, Arguing With Idiots, Page 267]
Section 9. The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
That's right, the Founders actually put a price tag on coming to this country: $10 per person. Apparently they felt like there was a value to being able to live here. Not anymore. These days we can't ask anything of immigrants -- including that they abide by our laws. [Arguing with Idiots, Page 278]
media matters.......
Idiot to english.... Beck endorses slavery.....
Value in being able to" live here" ???
Slaves....Property...... Becks Hero claimed Slaves were Fun loving Gangs.
Does Beck believe Obama is only 3/5ths of a President?
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Throw Gas on taxpayer, Poison Pelosi, Boil Frogs......
The Springer Show viewer.... He is the Face of the John Birch 'ers ...........
Yet Beck was right about ACORN!
How so? Acorn is a conduit for Child prostitutes?
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out Posted: 9/26/2009 11:35:04 AM | .
Beck has lost 64 sponsors with his Rants.....
Not what you would call main stream....... Murdock loss $600 K a week... For less than 2 million viewers............
Hit the dog?
The crap Beck puts out is crap............ "OLIGARH"?
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