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 SweetnessInLove

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Posted: 10/27/2009 1:25:42 AM
If you dont vaccinate your kids,
PLEASE keep them OUT of public schools and public places.
If you live in a city with ANy sort of cultural diversity, dont let your kids out of the house. There could be a guy walking next to you in the supermarket just off thge boat from a 3rd world country that could pass a deadly disease on to your kids.
Choosy moms choose vaccinations.

Happy Polio.


 catseyeslinda

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Posted: 10/27/2009 2:14:29 AM
In my own words .....My qualifications are all in child care but after 14 yrs i had a much awaited son he was perfect .was due on my husbands 40th birthday . came 2 days early . but got out of hospital on his dads birthday .we had tryed for a baby since my daughter was born 14 yrs earlyer . wat a gift .he was given an injection minits after birth . then within half an hr his face had a rash on it . iIkept asking the nurses but they said it would go away . it never then he got another vaccine i had to take him to yorkhill his body was covered . i got piritan .and he was then diagnosed with ezema . given creams . the first cream diprobase broke him out so bad straight back to doctor . then he got e 45 this was fine . As he got older i was just so in love with my little bundle . he was always reading books with me . would point to all the little animals . health visitor was always saying wat a clever boy . i used to get the little puppets from early learning centre how he would laugh . he was such a torag he used to climb out his cot and help himself to his breast milk . i was his very own self service centre . but i always got the cheeky smile and those big bright blue eyes looking straight at me . Ian this morning woke as normal climbed straight out cot into my bed helped himself to breakfast . he was now 18 mnths old . we as normal came down stairs . we got ready as he had an appointment for a vaccine . we were early so we sat with building briks and some books . there my little man was showing mummy the animals making the sounds . then of we went he got the vaccine we came home . within an hr he was burning up . i gave him calpol he was not feeding just wanting to lie on sofa . i left himi expressed milk and was giving him it via a spoon. still burning up gave him more calpol . then i took him to yorkhill as the rash was back . more piraton. Isat in the livingroom all night with my son as he was very restless. following morning no responce when i called him but his eyes were open . he wouldnt feed . i got his little water cup gave him expressed milk . he would drink it but hated being touched . days later he was on his feed . you no how kids eyes are dull when there sick . this is how his eyes were but he wouldnt look at me . ... took him round to doctors and she thought he had lost his hearing health visitor sat with me an hr . told me dont worry we will find out wats happened . i said at that moment this is autism dont pull the wool over my eyes . she said no he will be fine . hearing tsts later and all skills gone couldnt point wave . my family were so afraid . he just got worse and worse my father would cry . My father is my dad the strongest man i no . most careing and always got answers .he had no answers to why his little blue eyed grandson was sitting banging his head of walls , constantly flapping constantly biteing the ends of his fingers that were all strapped up as to prevent infection , something horrible had went rong . this was more than a nightmare . my son couldnt bare being touched . then he went to a clinic i showed them all my b4 vaccine tapes . they left diagnoses of as this child showed no signs . then my doctor pushed them .... worst diagnoses i got .. classical autism . he would have to be taught to ask for things with pictures as there was no speach no eyecontact ... It was living hell this child was the baby i had i new that but my god he was nothing like him . I grieved . one day i sat with my dad crying i asked him why did god take my son he had a life why not take me. My dad told me he didnt no but to fight back , to look and look there must be a reson , I stumbled on an artical professor bernard rimland had wrote . I had to call this man . i did . it was an answering machine. guess wat he herd my tears . this man called me back .he made so much sence . my husband said i wanted to hear wat he said you cant cure autism . if my son can be takin into a dark world in hrs . im gona try my best to get him back . professer rimland gave me pointers told me wat do do , within 2 weeks my son called me mum. his dad couldnot believe he was speaking . but again my partner thought this wouldnt work . we split up after 21 yrs.my ex husband now has thanked me for not listening . he cant believe the changes in our son. he sat with pride last parents evening as his teacher said ian is moveing up 4 classes i cant keep up with him . when ian started school he was in a class with one child as he was so classical autistic . now hes in a room with kids has friends . the future hasnt been wrote so my plans are to keep detoxing heavy metals as he is well his skin now is clear no rashes . he was in a world of his own now hes back . i look fallward to every day letting him have wat he missed out on . its halloween this sat hes dressing up as a cat and having a party . hes never been able to have that . just no intrest . he watches films with me now and giggles his head of . my god how i love. hes my world . and his dads . my ex partner crys at the diffrence in our son . he says thanks for following wat you believed . we plan to take ian to the theartre together this thursday . chitty chitty bang bang . and he will sit through it . he will laugh . can i mention the dull lifeless eyes again . they were that way for yrs now bright blue and smiles looking straight in my eyes . The vaccine did this to my child i havent mentioned the blood in every nappy all the bowel problems . the nightmare was hell . prof bernard rimland and his reaserch gave me my son back . .. If i can spare 1 mum 1 dad one child this hell i will do it . i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy . the same story is being screamed all over the world . how dare anyone com,pare me to george bush . anyone who nows me . thinks im the kindest sweetest person , my neice is 34 says my heart is gold . Ino these vaccines are harming babys i was chairperson of autism support groups . we all have opinions but you cant take the events of that day away from me . the vaccine companys are corupt . should anyone in goverment be allowed shares no .. why has my son recovered ... is it not because these kids need there toxic load reduced ... ok parents if you have an autistic child how many have serious bowel isues .. do they treat the condition no they have no answers for us . here is the answer the toxins are causing the bowel problems ... this has been difficult for me to go through that day and the weeks that followed . but i had to as maybe other mums and dads will tell there storys ........... for the record my son did not get the mmr . .............one child harmed is one child 2 much . one in every 98 have an autism diagnoses wake up people ..............................................................................(The CDC and the US gvernment do not want to accept responsibility for allowing the country to receive these harmful preservitives in the forms of vaccines. It really is a conspiracy. Just to let you know something else. The government thanks to Mr Bush accepted full responsibilty if a law suit comes about from the side affects of vaccine. But all you will get is $200,000. this money my friends is coming out of our tax dollars. Meaning the Pharm company profit and can never be touched. EVER!!Does that make sence to you???

Okay, Okay. I will shut up now.}

the vaccine companys have made the bush family very wealthy .................................................to the post above sweetness our kids are vaccinated thats why we lived the nightmare of autism
 Keef Frost

Joined: 10/13/2009
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Posted: 10/27/2009 2:54:59 AM
If you dont vaccinate your kids,
PLEASE keep them OUT of public schools and public places.
If you live in a city with ANy sort of cultural diversity, dont let your kids out of the house. There could be a guy walking next to you in the supermarket just off thge boat from a 3rd world country that could pass a deadly disease on to your kids.
Choosy moms choose vaccinations.
Happy Polio.

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how f*cking hysterical is that
stupid cow
kids are born with there mothers immune system
 catseyeslinda

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Posted: 10/27/2009 4:13:11 AM
read lucas story here is his dads words . I have my son back. One battle won, now a war to win.

I will continue to document and publish everything that was done to recover my son. I share the same passion to help every kid off the spectrum as my own. I choose to fight for all of them with my every spare moment. We need to win back one child at a time. We have to do this ourselves for there seems to ben no glory, no recognition (often even from your own family), no medical journals backing you up and shamefully there is no help from the western medical establishment. We are truly on our own. The American FDA, CDC, IOM and pretty much every western federal health department has turned their backs on our children and common sense. You cannot cure Autism if you refuse to accept the now rather obvious, MERCURY and Aluminum in vaccines are the sparks that instigate Autism. Tell everyone you know...............................
to read the full recovery just put in browser lucas recovery autism....... this father like me wants people to no there is hope . lets lose all the lies lets share experiances as parents .. lets fight get our kids well . put autism recovery in youtube see the changes yourself . you can detox heavy mettals in a clay bath now xxx mr frost our babys do get our imune systems yes but unfortunitly they get our toxic load as well . .... I NO 100%My grandaughter wont be autistic . how can i if its genetic . .... my family have alergys so do many familys this is the genetic link ....... The goverments deny the link . my sons story and the other kids that get well all have there diagnoses papers . one day our kids will tell the world how dark there lifes were then mummy and daddy . believed there was massive lies out there and they kept fighting . .... my son nows why he was ill and he nows hes getting better . these kids have voices now ......heres a laugh my own gp actully thinks i should pick chose when my grandaughter has her vaccines . she doesnt say im right . but she listens now . again she cant believe how far my son has came ........... Out of the darkness ....................wat your not getting is how happy i am my son is back . but i cant let other children live in darkness ... why did i work with kids i adore them ................................... again im not agaist vaccines ... space them out after one yr old ...... and only get the vaccines that are needed..... single measles vaccines are easy to get
 sls177

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Posted: 10/27/2009 4:38:39 AM
If you do Google the words 'Lucas recovery autism' the first sites that come up are sites with a sales pitch for 'Zeolite', which is a mineral commonly used in cat litter and detergents - one site claims that Lucas' family spent "$300,000" on Zeolite.

None of them claim Lucas has been 'cured', merely that he has moved from 'severely autistic' to 'mildly autistic' [in other words - still autistic] and no evidence of how this conclusion was reached (was he assessed by a psychologist?) is offered. It's not unusual in the slightest for children to move along the spectrum as they grow and develop since autism is a progressive, rather than regressive, disorder. This is not evidence of recovery, it is evidence of development.
 aaamm

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Posted: 10/27/2009 5:00:12 AM
Ya know I don't get how anyone thinks taking anything is what an autistic child needs! It is in their brains wiring. If you work with a child and work on the areas that are different, guess what, their brain rewires and starts functioning more like so called normal. Ignore the truth and you make your own children suffer. Pills and drugs aren't the answer! You have to work with them...gahhhh...I'm off of here, wear you blinders.
 ctuagent

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Posted: 10/27/2009 9:31:57 AM
Up until my son was 18 months old he was a perfectly "normal" happy child, his cognitive and social develpoment causing no convern for myself and wife or any medical practionar for that matter, however this changed dramatically after recieving a vaccine at 18 months. My son rapidly regressed losing all his social skills in a matter of weeks noticbly loss of eye contact and speach. This caused my wife and I great devastation to which only a parent would understand in this situation but also had a knock on effect to his siblings (try explaining to a 6 & 9 year old that their brother has been lost in another world).
After some intense research in partnership with my GP and indepandant physician which has covered the best part of 7 years it is extremely hard to ignore the fact that including mercury (amongst other fatal poisons) to live vaccines did not have an overwhelming contriutary factor in my sons condition.
 catseyeslinda

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Posted: 10/27/2009 12:21:05 PM
i think people should read what jenny mccarthy says Editor's note: Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey are actors and parents actively involved in autism-related causes. McCarthy is the author of the book "Louder Than Words: A Mother's Journey in Healing Autism."


Actress Jenny McCarthy believes that vaccines could have contributed to her son's autism.

(CNN) -- In light of the recent Hannah Poling decision, in which the federal court conceded that vaccines could have contributed to her autism, we think the tide is finally turning in the direction of parents like us who have been shouting concerns from our rooftops for years.

Autism is a debilitating disorder, which according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is suffered by 1 in 150 kids, making it more common than childhood cancer, diabetes and AIDS combined.

Recently, England and Ireland reported that autism is affecting one in 58 individuals.

Is it any wonder that autism has become many new parents' No. 1 fear?

We've met some of the most amazing moms and dads who are forging their own path to prevention and recovery. When our son, Evan, was diagnosed with autism we were lucky enough to benefit from their knowledge and experience. Evan has been healed to a great extent by many breakthroughs that, while perhaps not scientifically proven, have definitely helped Evan and many other children who are recovering from autism. Parents vs. scientists: Watch the latest test case »

There are some who wonder what we mean when we say "recovering" from autism. They confuse the word recover with cure. While you may not be able to cure an injury caused in a terrible car accident, you can recover; you can regain many skills that you once lost. In the case of autism, we think there are treatments that often bring about such healing, so that the observable symptoms of the condition no longer exist. Even though we may no longer see any symptoms of autism, we can't say a child is "cured" because we do not know what they would have been like had they never been injured.

We believe what helped Evan recover was starting a gluten-free, casein-free diet, vitamin supplementation, detox of metals, and anti-fungals for yeast overgrowth that plagued his intestines. Once Evan's neurological function was recovered through these medical treatments, speech therapy and applied behavior analysis helped him quickly learn the skills he could not learn while he was frozen in autism. After we implemented these therapies for one year, the state re-evaluated Evan for further services. They spent five minutes with Evan and said, "What happened? We've never seen a recovery like this." Watch Jenny McCarthy talk about her son's autism »

Evan is now 5 years old and what might surprise a lot of you is that we've never been contacted by a single member of the CDC, the American Academy of Pediatrics, or any other health authority to evaluate and understand how Evan recovered from autism. When Evan meets doctors and neurologists, to this day they tell us he was misdiagnosed -- that he never had autism to begin with. It's as if they are wired to believe that children can't recover from autism. Watch CDC chief on vaccines, autism »

So where's the cavalry? Where are all the doctors beating down our door to take a closer look at Evan? We think we know why they haven't arrived. Most of the parents we've met who have recovered their child from autism as we did (and we have met many) blame vaccines for their child's autism.

We think our health authorities don't want to open this can of worms, so they don't even look or listen. While there is strong debate on this topic, many parents of recovered children will tell you they didn't treat their child for autism; they treated them for vaccine injury. Read about latest fight over vaccines and autism

Many people aren't aware that in the 1980s our children received only 10 vaccines by age 5, whereas today they are given 36 immunizations, most of them by age 2. With billions of pharmaceutical dollars, could it be possible that the vaccine program is becoming more of a profit engine then a means of prevention?

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We believe autism is an environmental illness. Vaccines are not the only environmental trigger, but we do think they play a major role. If we are going to solve this problem and finally start to reverse the rate of autism, we need to consider changing the vaccine schedule, reducing the number of shots given and removing certain ingredients that could be toxic to some children.

We take into account that some children have reactions to medicines like penicillin, for example, yet when it comes to vaccines we are operating as if our kids have a universal tolerance for them. We are acting like ONE SIZE FITS ALL. That is, at the very least, a huge improbability.

Even if the CDC is not convinced of a link between vaccines and autism, changing the vaccine schedule should be seriously considered as a precautionary measure. (If you would like to see some ideas for alternative schedules, check out http://generationrescue.org.)


We wish to state, very clearly, that we are not against all vaccines, but we do believe there is strong evidence to suggest that some of the ingredients may be hazardous and that our children are being given too many, too soon!

regaining skills is exactly what has happened with my son and its weekly more come and come ..... i havent spent a fortune on his treatments . .. a small amount not more than 500 in total . well his ezema was all over his skin last yr his skin is clear id have given that for his skin to get better . but he has most skills back in 9 mnths moved up 4 classrooms .. why the teacher couldnt keep up with him ...
 Matthew__Angel

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Posted: 10/27/2009 12:25:55 PM
It must be horribly painful for the parents.

When you explain why NON VACCINATED CHILDREN become Autistic it will help you understand that it is not the vaccinations.

I have heard parents say "not even 6 months after a vaccination he started to become Autistic". I have every reason to believe that the child would have become Autistic whether or not he was vaccinated.

In pain, we always search for a guilty party. It is easy to blame the vaccinations.

What would you say to the parents who have not allowed their child to be vaccinated and yet the child became Autistic ??

Vaccinations just happen to be are the time that child start showing signs of Autism.

One last time, look beyond the fear mongering and the religious fools and go with logic>

WHY ARE CHILDREN NEVER VACCINATED BECOMING AUTISTIC ????

And don't be ignorant enough to tell me that more vaccinated children than non vaccinated children get Autism because we all know that is apples to oranges because most children are vaccinated (which is why they don't die of disease).

If you are going to copy paste another biases half assed study then you are not worth saving.
 mtnwldflower

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Posted: 10/27/2009 5:38:53 PM
Sorry, Matt...


<div class="quote">THE VERDICT is in and Autism is not created by vaccinations.

This is a true statement.

But the verdict is still out as to whether or not, the vaccines are a contributing factor in the cause of autism.

The two are not mutually exclusive, and trying to repeat them as such will not make it anymore true.

The link between autism and vaccinations, is mercury.
 SweetnessInLove

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Posted: 10/27/2009 6:17:46 PM

how f*cking hysterical is that
stupid cow
kids are born with there mothers immune system


About as stupid as dumb asses who get all their doomsdady indo off the net and take Jenny McCarthy as gospel. And im a smart cow love, a smart cow that wont have kids with polio/rubella/mumps/etc. if wer all carry pour mothers immunities then NOBODY would diseases. Dont want to vaccinate, your choice. But [lease quaantine your kids from the rest of the humanfolk. If i was carrying a newborn baby around and you let your lil brat with no shots near it you wouldnt be able to type stupid cow at me on the internet, holmes.
 Matthew__Angel

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Posted: 10/27/2009 7:44:14 PM
Well then don't vaccinate and watch your children suffer with life threatening disease....
 catseyeslinda

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Posted: 10/28/2009 1:50:56 AM
there is no need for swearing on here , everyone has opinions . we are allowed to speak . There is a massive coverup going on one day we will no the truth . Familys who are affectted have lived the truth ... My son stoped being able to suckle within hrs of a vaccine . he never recovered .not until i chequed things out. he looked so ill. As i have said the nightmare i lived has helped me help other familys . I havent seen a couple of kids with autism . ive seen thousands . healthy body healthy brain . have you seen these kids with bowel problems ignored . have you seen the dark circles under there eyes . Maybe just maybe one day someone will start helping these kids properly . Have you noticed every child who dies has underlieing health isues . they become a statistic .. my child and all the other little kids in there thousands are not a statistic . there the shame on todays money greedy society . safety and money are put b4 the life of an innocent little child . Secret Government Database
of Vaccine-Damaged Children


The general public is essentially unaware of the true number of people -- mostly children -- who have been permanently damaged or killed by vaccines. In fact, most parents would be surprised to learn that the government has a secret computer database filled with several thousand names of disabled and dead babies, children who were healthy and alive just prior to receiving the vaccines. Of course, the medical establishment and federal government don't readily disclose this information because they know it's likely to frighten parents into seeking other ways to protect their children. In other words, parents just might think this issue through on their own and decide to reject the shots.

Federal Admission of Vaccine Risks:

In 1986, Congress officially acknowledged the reality of vaccine-caused injuries and death by creating and passing The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (Public Law 99-660). The safety reform portion of this law requires doctors to provide parents with information about the benefits and risks of childhood vaccines prior to vaccination, and to report vaccine reactions to federal health officials. Doctors are required by law to report suspected cases of vaccine damage. To simplify and centralize this legal requisite, federal health officials established the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) -- operated by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

Ideally, doctors would abide by this federal law and report adverse events following the administration of a vaccine. However, the FDA recently acknowledged that 90 percent of doctors do not report vaccine reactions. They are choosing to subvert this law by claiming the adverse event was, in their opinion, not related to the shot. In fact, every year between 12,000 and 14,000 reports of adverse reactions to vaccines are made to the FDA (data initially accessible only through the Freedom of Information Act). These figures include hospitalizations, irreversible brain damage, and hundreds of deaths. Considering that these numbers may represent just 10 percent, the true figures could be as high as 140,000 adverse events annually. However, even this figure could be conservative. According to Dr. David Kessler, former head of the Food and Drug Administration, "Only about 1 percent of serious events [adverse drug reactions] are reported to the FDA." Thus, it is entirely possible that millions of people are adversely affected by mandatory vaccines every year.

Maybe it doesn't matter that doctors won't report vaccine reactions, because the federal government won't investigate them. Government officials claim VAERS was designed to "document" suspected cases of vaccine damage. No attempt is being made to confirm or deny the reports. Parents are not being interviewed, and the vaccines that preceded the severe reactions are not being recalled. Instead, new waves of unsuspecting parents and innocent children are being subjected to the damaging shots.

Who Pays for Compensation?

In order to pay for vaccine injuries and deaths, a surtax is levied on mandated vaccines. When parents elect to have their children vaccinated, a portion of the money they spend on each vaccine goes into a Congressional fund to compensate them if their child is hurt or killed by the shot.

The compensation portion of the law awards up to $250,000 if the individual dies, or millions of dollars to cover lifelong medical bills, pain, and suffering in the case of a living (but brain-damaged) child. To date, more than $1 BILLION has already been paid out for hundreds of injuries and deaths caused by mandated vaccines. Thousands of cases are pending.

Vaccine Injury Compensation Claims do not include private settlements, or the many families that become dependent on public assistance for medical and living expenses because of vaccine injuries. Therefore, taxpayers subsidize vaccine manufacturers and the federal government by paying for their vaccine-liability expenses.

How Are Vaccines Made?

Vaccine production is a disgusting procedure. To begin, one must first acquire the disease germ -- a toxic bacterium or a live virus. To make a "live" vaccine, the live virus must be attenuated, or weakened for human use. This is accomplished by serial passage -- passing the virus through animal tissue several times to reduce its potency. For example, measles virus is passed through chick embryos, polio virus through monkey kidneys, and the rubella virus through human diploid cells -- the dissected organs of an aborted fetus! "Killed" vaccines are "inactivated" through heat, radiation, or chemicals.

The weakened germ must then be strengthened with adjuvants (antibody boosters) and stabilizers. This is done by adding drugs, antibiotics, and toxic disinfectants to the concoction: neomycin, streptomycin, sodium chloride, sodium hydroxide, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum hydrochloride, sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin, formaldehyde, and thimerosal (a mercury derivative).

Aluminum, formaldehyde, and mercury are extremely toxic substances with a long history of documented hazardous effects. Studies confirm again and again that microscopic doses of these substances can lead to cancer, neurological damage, and death. Yet, each of them may be found in childhood vaccines.

In addition to the deliberately planned additives, unanticipated matter may contaminate the shots. For example, during serial passage of the virus through animal cells, animal RNA and DNA -- foreign genetic material -- is transferred from one host to another. Because this biological matter is injected directly into the body, researchers say it can change our genetic makeup.

Undetected animal viruses may jump the species barrier as well. This is exactly what happened during the 1950s and 1960s when millions of people were infected with polio vaccines that were contaminated with the SV-40 virus undetected in the monkey organs used to prepare the vaccines. SV-40 (Simian Virus #40 -- the 40th such virus detected since researchers began looking), is considered a powerful immunosuppressor and trigger for HIV, the name given to the AIDS virus. It is said to cause a clinical condition similar to AIDS, and has been found in brain tumors, leukemia, and other human cancers as well. Researchers consider it to be a cancer-causing virus.

What happens next, once this foul concoction -- live viruses, bacteria, toxic substances, and diseased animal matter -- is created? This witch's brew is forced into the healthy child.

Satanic Rituals:

Dr. Robert Mendelsohn often criticized modern medicine for its sanctimonious doctrine. He argued that "doctors are the priests who dispense holy water in the form of inoculations" to ritually initiate our loyalty into the larger medical industry. Dr. Richard Moskowitz agrees: "Vaccines have become sacraments of our faith in biotechnology. Their efficacy and safety are widely seen as self-evident and needing no further proof."

Others see a link between vaccinations and satanic rituals or witchcraft, where animals are sacrificed and their organs brewed in a hellish concoction of horrid substances: voodoo medicine by 21st century mad scientists. Sadly, our children are their unwilling subjects as society is slowly devoured by their insatiable appetite for human experimentation.



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SECRET DATABASE!

Every year, the FDA receives thousands of reports of adverse reactions after vaccines. These include brain damage and death. This information is now available at the following link: VAERS Database. (We recommend starting with a basic search.)



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this child should be playing with his friends .. cheque out 1976 wat people were paralised with and the condirtion they were left with Monday, October 12, 2009
8 Year Old Child Dies After H1N1 Vaccine
8 year old child dies after receiving the H1N1 Vaccine at Stonybrook Hospital in New York. The 3rd grader attended Park View Elementary in Kings Park, New York.

This vaccine just rolled out in the United States last week. So, it is hard to say how many other people will be affected by this vaccine also. According to the CDC, 30,000 deaths are an acceptable number though.

UPDATE**There seemed to be some confusion earlier. Originally, it was reported that the child died of the H1N1 Vaccine, but later it was stated that it was due to a seasonal flu vaccine. He died of a well-known side effect known as Guillain Barre Syndrome. Well, the vaccine manufacturers have stated that both of the formulas are the SAME with the exception of the viral strain used. The child's name is Sean Weisse. May he rest in peace. His family is in my thoughts and prayers during this difficult time. a vaccine did this (mathew ) im wanting mercury out of every vaccine . im wanting the original measles vaccine offered to every child ... go back to b4 the nightmare began ..... you cant sit there and say something isnt horribly rong . there vaccinating girls now for cervical cancer . there are over a hundred strains the vaccine covers 3 . have you read wat its doing to young girls I think you should GARDASIL CANCER VACCINE PROBED FOR LINK TO 18 DEATHS

Posted: 3:44 am
July 6, 2008

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07062008/news/nationalnews/feds_warning_shot_118716.htm

GARDASIL - a new cervical-cancer vaccine heavily marketed to young girls in ubiquitous ads on TV and in movie theaters - is under investigation for possible links to paralysis, seizures, and 18 deaths.

Federal health officials have logged 8,000 "adverse events" in girls and women injected with the Merck & Co. vaccine introduced two years ago, more than 500 of them from New York.

And lawyers last month filed the first two claims on behalf of girls with ailments blamed on Gardasil under a federal program to compensate victims of vaccine-caused illness, The Post has learned.

Both girls got the injections at their middle schools.

One is Jesalee Parsons, now 15, of Oklahoma, who began vomiting the day she got a Gardasil shot and developed pancreatitis, her claim says.

"It makes me mad because they're saying how great it is, but they never mention how many people have been hurt by it," Jesalee told The Post.

Healthy all her life, her family says, Jesalee has been hospitalized on and off for more than a year. She restricts her diet, takes pain pills and misses many school days.

"I'm pretty sick all the time," she said.

The other claim was filed for Jessica Vega of Nevada, who came down with Guillain-Barré Syndrome, an immune-system disorder, at age 14 - a week after her second Gardasil shot.

Thirty others have reported the syndrome after getting the vaccine.

JESSICA'S mom, Rhonda Vega, says the girl's lower legs and arms were paralyzed, but she's learned to walk again. "Protecting girls against cervical cancer is a fabulous thing, but if this is what's going to happen, they need to research it more," she said.

In Florida, the mother of 13-year-old Brittany LeClaire said her daughter suffered headaches and lethargy after a Gardasil shot last Aug. 13. On Sept. 2, Brittany's left leg became paralyzed. After months on a walker, she limps.

Her pediatrician "highly recommended" the vaccination, mom Christina Bell said. "He told me it was a cancer preventative. I thought it was the right thing to do. You see it advertised on TV every 15 minutes."

Brittany's case is one of six being prepared for filing by Boston vaccine lawyer Kevin Conway. He said other cases include "paralysis, seizures and brain damage."

Gardasil was licensed by the Food and Drug Administration in June 2006 for females ages 9 to 26. Sold worldwide, it's been given to more than 8 million US girls and women, Merck says.

The vaccine is aimed at warding off strains of the human papillomavirus, or HPV, which can lead to cancer. The vaccinations cost a total $360.

Securities and Exchange Commission documents show Merck made $1.5 billion in Gardasil sales last year.

ONE doctor who helped conduct clinical trials on Gardasil told The Post the vaccine has been aggressively marketed to girls too young to need it.

"There's a huge push for giving this to girls 11 and 12 years of age," said Dr. Diane Harper of Dartmouth Medical School. "There's no hurry. You can give it to someone who is 20, 25 or 30 and still have the same level of protection."

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, run by the FDA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, has collected thousands of reports of health problems after Gardasil shots.

The fatalities include:

* A 17-year-old New York girl who collapsed and died on Feb. 22 this year, two days after the last of three Gardasil injections. An autopsy could not pinpoint the cause, but doctors suspect a heart-rhythm disorder.

* An 11-year-old who suffered a heart attack in May 2007, three days after a Gardasil shot. The nurse who reported it said a doctor blamed it on "an anaphylactic [severe allergic] reaction to Gardasil." The feds could not confirm the case.

* A 12-year-old girl with no prior medical problems who died in her sleep on Oct. 6, 2007, three weeks after a Gardasil shot.

DR. John Iskander, the CDC's acting director for immunization safety, said a review of 10 confirmed deaths found no common thread. Officials "concluded to the degree of certainty possible" that Gardasil wasn't to blame.

"It's tragic that young, apparently healthy people, do die," Iskander said.

But he added that doctors hold special meetings weekly to review new cases, and compare them to prior ones.

Fainting is the main symptom linked to Gardasil, he said.

Merck spokeswoman Kelley Dougherty said the company "actively monitors" reports of side effects.

"An event report does not mean that a causal relationship between an event and vaccination has been established - just that the event occurred after vaccination," she said.

A Post analysis of adverse- event reports filed through April 30 found that about 20 percent followed injections of Gardasil, plus up to seven other vaccines at the same time - including shots to prevent flu, chicken pox, hepatitis and tetanus. Almost 6,300 cases involved Gardasil alone.

Under a federal law passed in the late 1980s, victims of vaccines may file a claim under the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, but cannot sue the pharmaceutical.

Last year, the government added HPV to a list of vaccines, including polio, hepatitis and measles, granted immunity from suit.

If victims prove a vaccine likely caused injuries, the program pays a maximum $250,000 for death. The average payment for injury has been $1 million
(I guess these girls are just more statistics ) no its never the vaccine always undelying health isues . that the parents are never aware of .. The lists of kids harmed is endless if you look . this vaccine protects against 3 strains of cervical cancer . a doctor spoke out in a news paper . then retracted the article . why was she afraid .
 carterscutie85

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I got the Guardisil shot and I am perfectly fine. No side effects whatsoever. But, that doesn't mean it wasn't a factor in the other cases, everyone's body responds differently to vaccinations.

I'm waiting on the MMR for my child. I'm going to wait till he is 4 to get them..mumps, measles and rubella are not very common in the U.S. I'd be more worried if we lived in a third world country, but we don't. I know I am not the only parent who is waiting for the vaccination.

I don't see the point in arguing about this whole thing. Some people obviously beleive the vaccination caused their child's autism. Some people beleive the vaccination can't cause autism. It's a difference of opinions and I don't think anyone is going to change anyone's mind, so why argue?
 catseyeslinda

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Very wise choice . your childs little brain should be more developed at 4 , and your getting the vaccine b4 school . I got my son the single measles . yes had to pay . but it had no mercury in it and his imune system was stronger . yes i left it out till later . ... could i just say a common link in the kids is low imune systems . if your child has been on any steroids any antibiotics b4 the vaccine . these lower the imune responce and this vaccine is 3 live viruses wait a few extra mnths if at the time your child has been ill or on any these treatments ... so many of the kids have links like ashma ezema and steroids antibiotics . ......... guardisil is causing loads of problems like the ones listed above . no not everyone will have a reaction to a vaccine . but the ones who do you dont no weather it will be your mother father sister auntie uncle friend child . the swine flu one is very scarey ( there is no need for swearing on here . nothing rong with copeing an artical and pasteing it ) there is something rong with calling any child a bratt however ) Iactully adore children no child is a bratt weather or not there parents choice to vaccinate or not . hungry little children who are in 3rd world countrys in poverty who are dieing due to malnutrision and there parents cant buy them food should be pittyed there human beings to what a world when we slander the innocent . this is a free world people should be allowed to voice there opinions . we are all unique . black white rich poor gay straight adult child we are who we are respect each other . I have strong opinions yes but 6 yrs of listening to parents crying . I have sat with parents after diagnoses . loads are fine loads are not . Im only asking that the vaccines are reduced back to what they were in 1987 . this is all the parents want . single measles shot as well . remember my earlyer post thirmosol was added in 1937 a new condition never seen b4 was discovered in 1942 .. later called autism , as they up the vaccines autism rises . yes a baby is covered with its mums imune system . breast milk . ... Mathew i respect your views you are allowed your opinion . but i think you would agree that the swear words on this forum from others are indeed not called for or needed . for the post above if your children are vaccinated have had no side affects im glad . Iwould not wish what i went through on anyone . if your children are vaccinated then a none vaccinated child posses no risk . please remember its innocent little kiddies we are talking about here
 sls177

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Good grief, where to start?

Well, in terms of 'why' I would argue about this - it's because a) children's lives are at risk and b) because I don't like to see children with autism and their parents being taken for a ride by unscrupulous doctors who are willing to 'treat' their 'mercury poisoning' (for cash) or are in the pockets of lawyers (for cash).

I really, really can't believe the level of misinformation above about the VAERS database - particularly it being described as 'secret', seeing it's available online and any individual can file a report or ask to see items from the database; it's both transparent and accountable.

The VAERS database consists of reported events following immunization - not verified, not studied, just reported; taking that raw data and assuming that everything reported a) really happened, and b) is attributable to a vaccine, is a leap of logic indeed.

People become ill every day, people die suddenly every day - sometimes these events may follow in the days or weeks after a vaccination, but this does not mean that the vaccination is responsible. All avenues should be investigated before blame is apportioned.

To clarify, from the VAERS own FAQs.

Are all events reported to VAERS caused by vaccinations?

No. VAERS receives reports of many events that occur after immunization. Some of these events may occur coincidentally following vaccination, while others may truly be caused by vaccination. Studies help determine if there is more than a temporal (time) association between immunization and adverse events. The fact that an adverse event occurred following immunization is not conclusive evidence that the event was caused by a vaccine. Factors such as medical history and other medications given near the time of the vaccination must be examined to determine if they could have caused the adverse event. It is important to remember that many adverse events reported to VAERS may not be caused by vaccines.
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The majority of reports to VAERS are filed by vaccine manufacturers and healthcare providers.
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If you dont vaccinate your kids,
PLEASE keep them OUT of public schools and public places.
If you live in a city with ANy sort of cultural diversity, dont let your kids out of the house. There could be a guy walking next to you in the supermarket just off thge boat from a 3rd world country that could pass a deadly disease on to your kids.
Choosy moms choose vaccinations.
Happy Polio.
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how f*cking hysterical is that
stupid cow
kids are born with there mothers immune system

Hey smarty pants, the child only thrives on the mother's immune system for the first 6mnths, after that they are on their own. That's why they only give flu shots to children OVER 6mnths old. Just an FYI. Think before you speak, saves the foot insertion :)
 ohwhynot46

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Additionally, a mother doesn't give a child their immune SYSTEM; she merely passes on antibodies; there is a HUGE difference. The ignorant shouldn't bother to post!

I sincerely feel for those with autistic children; it is a perplexing condition, the cause of which is unknown. I do believe, however, that even if those children who become (or show symptoms of being) autistic after vaccination do so due to some (perhaps ) allergic response to such vaccines, for the majority, vaccines are not only safe, they are protective. While the notion of "the many vs. the individual" is no consolation to someone who suffers the consequence, the truth is, no one knows for sure what causes autism. Until we do, I think it unfair to single out one factor. Perhaps, around the same time of vaccination, many children were also exposed to clowns? I know it sounds ridiculous, but the truth is, it may well be the case, as it may be that they ingested formula, or that their breastfeeding mothers ate chocolate, or chicken injected with hormones. The point is, fixating on one factor while ignoring all others does no good to anyone. There IS a difference between metal mercury & Ethylmercury. Many, many children over the years have died from the diseases against which we now have eradicated through vaccines, This seems proof enough that they are effective, even if a minority are "allergic". Perhaps it might be better to approach the issue from the angle of how one comes to be allergic, or how to find out prior to vaccination.
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Breast feed babys i said . Mothers pass on protective antibodies to their baby during breastfeeding. Antibodies are a type of protein made by the immune system in the body. Antibodies help fight off infection. if a mother has had measles or the vaccines these antibodies are past to the child . .... sis you highlight a very important issue yes there are money greedy people out there who would 100% take advatage of a parent looking for answers .. there is no doubt in my mind thirmosal (ethelmercury) did this to my son . sunderland univercity has a urine tst a lot parents find helpfull. it can tell you if your child would benifit from dietry change . removing milk only in some cases gives great results . the bowel problems i do believe are a blood brain barrier breach .. WARNING parents dont give out thousands pounds dollars for mercury tst .. you can tst your own childs urine tst kits are avalable . not very expensive . my own experiance was my son didnt show a large amount of mercury , then i gave him a challat product for removing it . then the results went of the scale .. detox shouldnt cost thousands . I thought the lady on here highlighting this isue was so very important . remember a home urine mercury toxin test is avalable . from america you can get it send via post here . there was one group claiming to cure autism that a lot of parents in a support group i no were being sucked into . they were going to get charity funding for a quarter of the fee . one lady i no was going to remorgage her house to get the extra 20 odd thousand .. we called in the head of the child development unit she diagnoses autism and is a well qualified doctor . at the end of that group meeting these parents kept there money in there pockets .. this group sujested isolating the child locking them in a room empty of all distractions .. our kids need to learn social skills they need stimulation loads of love to get them to best potential . they need there familys not locks on room doors . again we are allowed our opinions on here but i think we would all agree anyone looking for loads of cash are probably at it . here a tip i share with everyone my own idea . no eyecontact .. well when at home stick a little stiker between your eyes there fav thing even a little trainsticker a little car a disney carictor . any child will look . encourage speach with treats blow bubbles say bubbles then blow again . once your child gets exited wait for even a sound from them b4 you blow . ...................................................................................................................................................................takes a little time for your child to realise there is rewards for sounds but it works patience ........ this is a great program and book ..Hanen Programs......... again mums dads dont give money anyone genuine wouldnt ask for it . in responce to the above post mercury is toxic it caused pinks disease minamata disease mad hatters disease to name a few . here is wat it does to little monkeys Groundbreaking Primate Study Links Mercury Vaccine Preservative to Brain Injury

Download image Same preservative used in H1N1 Shots Puts Children at Risk for Brainstem Injury

NIXA, Mo., Oct. 1 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- A new study in the leading scientific journal NeuroToxicology lends further credence to parents and scientists concerned about an increasingly aggressive childhood vaccine schedule and toxic vaccine components. A team led by researchers at the University of Pittsburgh found that infant macaque monkeys receiving a single Hepatitis B vaccine containing the mercury-based preservative thimerosal underwent significant delays in developing critical reflexes controlled by the brainstem. The infant macaques that did not receive vaccines developed normally.

(Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20090918/NAALOGO)

Government vaccine guidelines were expanded in 1991 to include a Hepatitis B vaccine for infants within the first few days of life, even though the disease is primarily transmitted sexually or spread through the use of dirty needles. The introduction of the shot was part of a greatly accelerated vaccine schedule that coincides with the drastic increase in autism, which now affects one in 100 American children. Thimerosal was removed from U.S. Hepatitis B vaccines in 2000 but was not recalled from the market and was administered for approximately two more years. It still remains in other vaccines including all multi-dose shots for both the seasonal flu and H1N1.

Current government recommendations for seasonal flu and H1N1 call for pregnant women to receive both vaccines, and children as young as six months to receive as many as four separate flu shots. "This also doesn't take into account that nursing infants may be exposed to additional mercury through breastmilk should both mother and baby be vaccinated," says National Autism Association (NAA) board chair Lori McIlwain. "This study's outcome confirms that such an over-the-top toxic vaccine schedule is an assault on the developing brains of our children."

Specifically, the study found:

•Thirteen newborn rhesus macaques were given a Hepatitis B vaccine containing a standardized dose of thimerosal adjusted for their weight, four received a saline placebo, and three were not given any shots.
•Vaccinated animals experienced a significant delay in the acquisition of three survival reflexes compared to unvaccinated animals. Root, snout, and suck reflexes, critical to animal survival in the wild, were delayed in the vaccinated macaques.
•These reflexes are controlled by the brainstem, a vital part of the brain that regulates automatic functions such as breathing, heart rate, and intestinal activity.
•Neonatal responses in unvaccinated control animals were not delayed.
•The delay in acquisition of three of the four survival reflexes was not contingent on birth weight or gestational age.

For years, parents of children with autism have lobbied government health agencies to conduct research comparing the health of vaccinated children to that of unvaccinated children, and to remove thimerosal from all vaccines. Neither request has been met.

"This study underscores the lack of appropriate government action to ensure the safety of vaccines. Had our government agencies conducted the most basic research on the implications to children's health from the vaccines they rigorously promote, they could have spared thousands of children the neurological injuries they endure today," said Ms. McIlwain. "It's shameful."

For more information about autism, please visit www.nationalautism.org....... there are things that can help the symtoms of autism . but these donot cost an arm and a leg .. the sunderland univercity one i did early on as did loads other mums i new .. our kids have peptides in there urine . this tst does let you no if dietry change will help .. my sons tst only showed dairy i seen results after removing milk in 3 days my friends showed both she needed wheat dairy gluten free it tooks mnths to see any results in her boy .. my other friends was dairy only again her son showed signs of improvment fast.. cheque out sunderland univercity and there tst and the blood brain barrier .. ive said on here im detoxing my son . im seeing improvment . but its a clay bath that draws the toxins out and some little drops in water again not expensive . again im going to highlight this a child a few yrs ago was detoxed using iv a drip . this terrafide me the child died ... be carefull out there people .. again sis your post was much needed thankyou ... i actully have waited for a few yrs for a safer way to detox as that little boy dieing frightened me , this was in responce to sis177 ............................Well, in terms of 'why' I would argue about this - it's because a) children's lives are at risk and b) because I don't like to see children with autism and their parents being taken for a ride by unscrupulous doctors who are willing to 'treat' their 'mercury poisoning' (for cash) or are in the pockets of lawyers (for cash). .............................. on this topic i 100%agree .. plus it as ive highlighted could be dangerous .. sis 177 as ive said we have diffrent opinions on autism . but thankyou as i was saying mercury poisen mercury poisen ... but not actully thinking some parents may go get help from back street greedy gits who not could harm there kids but would ...... the heb v vaccine here goes 17 Sep 2009 ... Hepatitis B. Engerix-B preservative free. GlaxoSmithKline ... This vaccine may contain trace amounts (<0.3 mcg) of mercury left after ...
www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm - yip still in there 0.3mcg. this is so they dont have to say its there
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A couple of quick criticisms of the above study;

The study was carried out by Dr Laura Hewitson; Dr Laura Hewitson has an autistic son and she is currently suing for vaccine injury which she claims caused her son's autism. She failed to disclose this conflict of interest when the study was published.

Dr Hewitson's co-author is Dr Andrew Wakefield, who infamously started the MMR controversy with his Lancet paper and now 'treats' autistic children at Thoughtful House, despite holding no pediatric qualification.

Also, if you look at the methodology section of the paper you will see that researchers *added* thimerosal to the vaccine. There is no thimerosal in the Hep B vaccine.
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Jenny McCarthy more than likely smoked crack while pregnant.

Poor prenatal diet/care is likely a cause of autism.

I spoend a lot of time in my local cemetery, and besides visiting my deceased love i photograph graves and go into the historical archives of the cemetery.
The cemetery is completely outlined with the graves of little ones from the polio endemic. In just my small 2 by 4 island town we lost thousands of infants.

And with the immigration rates, are you comfortable with knowing some immigrant from a 3rd world country where these diseases are still rampant, might have his disease infested kid sitting right next to your unvaccinated kid?
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There's no evidence whatsoever that "poor prenatal diet/care is likely a cause of autism" and I've never met a doctor who believed it as a cause.
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There's no evidence whatsoever that "poor prenatal diet/care is likely a cause of autism" and I've never met a doctor who believed it as a cause.

I have to agree. Thousands of healthy babies are born ever year to mothers who had no prenatal care and poor diet.

What bothers me about Jenny McCarthy is that she's no different than our own catseyeslinda who ISISTS that vaccines cause autism, and won't listen to anything else. They need to find something to blame for thier kids having autism and, without looking into any other possibility, they are using vaccines as that blame. What's even worse is that you have Jenny McCarthy, who's a (some what) celebrity shouting this false information through the media for all to hear. It's mis-information, and unfortunatly she has many followers who beleive in what she says without knowing why... but then, she's a hollywood celebrity, so she MUST be right.
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Sweetness in love you have had tragidy in your life .i can see were you are coming from you are afraid your kids may catch a disease . you have suffered loss . so terrible at your young age . my mother lost her first husband when she was 25 he was a fireman . she was left with 2 little toddlers . if you read wat im saying hunny im a 45 yr old women ive never ever took drugs im a very fit young 45 in fact i won the local gym challange against women half my age . my son did not react to the vaccine weeks or mnths later it was that day . i have a lot of involvment in autism groups . and to many parents have the same story , now sweetness b4 you say bad parents cause autism . will you please listen .I was breast feeding my little boy daily . one day he was my smiling happy boy the next day after a vaccine this all changed . he would not look at me burning up so bad i was terifide . hunny id waited 14 yrs for my baby i love him with everything that is me . he was unable to talk anymore unable to suckle .... cant you see this was loss to i grieved . Ive left no stone unturned to help my son . but i no how i felt after he regressed . i try to help others cope . now here is wat i find sickening . my son was passing large amounts of blood in his stoles . for 2 yrs after the vaccine . loads of autistic kids have bowel problems there in pain . this is ignored and it is not investagated as maybe just maybe some of these kids can be helped .. I think vaccines are part of the pussle but i think the whole autism rise needs investagation .why have so many kids with autism had alergys .. why have so many when you tst them got mercury counts of the scale ... at this point i have to add a challate product is not expensive and the urine tests are cheap . why do so many kids function levels as soon as you treat them as ill go up . so many questions out there being brushed under the carpet . now the bloods of autistic kids show very intresting things . so does there urine .. rather than label a child autistic ... cdc chief can be clearly herd on you tube saying (cdc chief admits vaccines can trigger autism )hannah polin was showing autism like symptoms after a vaccine . Maybe just maybe there are thousands more and the parents arent mad . sis 177 your post the study was flawed due to the women having an autistic child . if you look up how many parents have become scientists and doctors due to there children developing autism . there looking for answers and i think a parent one day will expose the truth . I want toxins out of vaccines .i dont want them saying its out then the vaccines tested and its still in there . (you tube robert kennedy junior vaccines ) this is a link . they can lie its out . then an autism group gets one has it tested and hay presto its got mercury in it . then the excuses come ... safe vaccine campaigners only want to stop others feeling the pain they have had . i dont want babys ill with disease no little child deserves that . i had measles as a child i was very very ill . i had the actul disease so i expressed breast milk for my son even after he regressed couldnt suckle so he would be safe from the dissease . page one on here there is a post number 16 i think a womens child regressed at 4 . this is happening just because you havent herd the storys it is . i no a women her son regressed at 6 now how are these cases explained . if you doubt there is an isue get involved with an autism group . so many parents have the same story ,, ... we are lost when we lose the child we had got to no . then we go to shoping centres or kids lie on the ground screaming due to sensory isues and people make judgments on our parental skills .. the isue that hurts parents the most is just that . i no thousands of familys . national autistic society makes cards for parents and also t shirts ... my opinion is my son couldnt help it and people who rush to judjment should be ignored . but the amount of tears the public not understanding causes these familys . who are coming to terms with grief isnt right . do your reaserch autism apeared after mercury was added to vaccines a few yrs later a new condition appeared later called autism . they changed the vaccines again late 1980s autism changes it now has perfectly normal kids regressing . kids did not regress before they changed the vaccines . support groups are overloaded with parents and the waiting lists for diagnoses is now over 2 yrs . i get information as i do no a lot of people who work in diagnoseses and also childcare people health visitors . they dont disagree with me as they no something is horrably rong . the one thing a support group never dose is put ideas into a parents head the reson being in some cases there was no aparant regression .the kids bodys themselfs have the answers get there bloods tested and treat wat is found . stop leaving it to parents .if a child is craving the one food that a urine tst says he shouldnt have . there is something going on .. ive stated previously that there is studys on a blood brain barrier breach . this means our kids need help . treat them . there are people out there who cant take medications because there alergic . is it so impossible that there are babys out there whos little bodys cant remove the mercury and it stays in there little bowels and brains , the mercury left causes a blood brain barrier breach . .. why oh why do so many of our kids suffer serious pain trying to move there bowels . why are the medical profetionals ignoring wats right in there face .. ..I can take anything tossed at me . life experiance has taught me well . but a parent is copeing with a lose they have to have time to come to terms with the baby they have isnt what they had planned . but in time they learn that they have a wonderfull unique little person . .. a parent whos child hasnt long regressed or just been diagnosed does not need people blaiming them not right ...... there copeing with enouth . its very hard in some cases to get a mum to stop thinking its something shes done . did i not eat enouth veg . its nothing they done . for all you mums a poem we use it in groups ;;;Welcome to Holland
I am often asked to describe the experience of raising a child with a disability – to try to help people who have not shared that unique experience to understand it, to imagine how it would feel. It's like this…




When you're going to have a baby, it's like planning a fabulous vacation trip – to Italy. You buy a bunch of guidebooks and make your wonderful plans. The Coliseum, the Michelangelo David, the gondolas in Venice. You may learn some handy phrases in Italian. It's all very exciting.




After months of eager anticipation, the day finally arrives. You pack your bags and off you go. Several hours later, the plane lands. The stewardess comes in and says, "Welcome to Holland."




"Holland?!" you say. "What do you mean, Holland?" I signed up for Italy! I'm supposed to be in Italy. All my life I've dreamed of going to Italy.




But there's been a change in the flight plan. They've landed in Holland and there you must stay.




The important thing is that they haven't taken you to some horrible, disgusting, filthy place, full of pestilence, famine and disease. It's just a different place.




So you must go out and buy a new guidebook. And you must learn a whole new language. And you will meet a whole new group of people you would never have met.




It's just a different place. It's slower paced than Italy, less flashy than Italy. But after you've been there for a while and you catch your breath, you look around, and you begin to notice that Holland has windmills, Holland has tulips, Holland even has Rembrandts.




But everyone you know is busy coming and going from Italy, and they're all bragging about what a wonderful time they had there. And for the rest of your life you will say, "Yes, that's where I was supposed to go. That's what I had planned."




The pain of that will never, ever, go away, because the loss of that dream is a very significant loss.




But if you spend your life mourning the fact that you didn't get to Italy, you may never be free to enjoy the very special, the very lovely things about Holland.

Written by Emily Perl Kingsley


enjoy wat you have sweetness in love read this part The pain of that will never, ever, go away, because the loss of that dream is a very significant loss.




But if you spend your life mourning the fact that you didn't get to Italy, you may never be free to enjoy the very special, the very lovely things about Holland.

do you no jenny mccarthy smoked crack cocain no you dont . shes actully just a mum maybe a celebrity . but she loves her child you see it in her eyes when she talks of him . please dont draw conclusions on people you dont no . some familys go through hell trying to come to terms with why this perfectly chatty happy child has changed .. and the very thing you need to do is hug your child and love them . the child doesnt want anymore .. Iget loads of cuddles and i love you mummy now . but im very affectionett and i cryed because after my sons regretion he no longer wanted touched you went near him he hit his head of walls ... was this bad behaviour no its part of his condition ... was it autism like symptoms that only one child in this world seems to have /... goverments need to test these kids now
 ohwhynot46

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Thus far, all that has been evidenced is that more children from the diseases against which they are vaccinated than die from the vaccinations. While it may seem callous to the families whose lives have been affected, the scientific community is more concerned with the greater good, but that is as it should be.

That having been said, of course more research needs to be done, and of course the government & drug companies, even research scientists, are driven by the almighty dollar. Even that fact, however, should reassure us that research into better vaccines will continue. Until then, historic proof that our life span and quality of life have been enhanced via vaccination, is enough to convince me to vaccinate, while doing my homework before doing so.
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